This is actually Hinata 'True starting line' for him as a Volleyball player. So far the show highlight Hinata 'good' moment, but not his relative skill level as a individual player.
That's why I love Hinata's character, he's a hard worker, he couldn't learn volleyball like the others, so his whole life was about him making the obstacle an opportunity to achieve his dream. And I think a lot of people don't understand this about the character, even though it's obvious, but here is definitely the true starting line for hinata
I would argue about Takeda's words and Ukai's words being "conflicting advice." "He who climbs the ladder must start at the bottom" and "Don't underestimate being a ball boy" are actually ideas in agreement, just worded differently. For Takeda, what's important is that Hinata understands that he can't be on top without putting in all the effort in every area. For Ukai, what's important is that Hinata does not perceive the role of ball boy as unimportant or as unnecessary as a player. In both of their minds, Hinata needs to remember that he's still got a ways to go and each and every step is an important part of the process.
One thing to remember is that (from what I understand) the saying doesn't translate well. I don't remember where but in a UA-cam comment of the same episode a person went in detail about it.
Ah yes, the "Hinata isn't as good as you think he is" training arc, my favorite. Don't get me wrong! Hinata is a very talented player, but if you lack the basics, how can you support your team as an all-around player? Now we get to see that Ushiwaka was kinda right in what he said about Hinata. He sensed his ambition, but saw that he lacks the basic foundations you need in order to be an average volleyball player. If you can't dig the ball nothing is going to start.
Hinata has raw talent but he missed on so much fundamentals not practicing with a team in his junior year, so this is his chance to get away from all his being boxed in as a good decoy and redevelop his techniques from scratch to become an all around good player. I love this arc for how much pay off it has later on in this season in particular and the series in general
The coach is right tho. Hinata is relying on the same old tricks and he gets lucky with it. The reason why he’s being so hard on him is because he was in his shoes one time and he doesn’t want hinata to go through the same thing he did. I think that’s the reason why he had him receiving the ball, so he could hopefully learn how to receive. Like he didn’t want to become his coach but the least he could do was teach him the fundamentals he was missing. As an athlete and I’m sure any athlete would agree with me on this when I say there are athletes or maybe even us who are specifically good in one category, but yet lack the talent in other categories. Trust me tho hinata WILL get way better trust me
I'm guessing you guys are ahead of this current episode, but it's worth pointing this out nonetheless... You guys are missing the elephant in the room. Why do you think the Shiratorizawa coach went out of his way to give him a path for him to still be in the camp? Why do you think Hinata gets yelled at for being a ball boy? Because Washijou doesn't like him? No, that's not true. We know the reason why Washijoy yells at a player, we've been told how he does things since the third season. He's harsh with players he's counting on. That's all I'm giving you guys in case it hasn't clicked already.
I can tell Suraj truly loves this, his reaction when Hinata was questioning himself, asking what is he doing and to find something he can do in a place like that. Can't wait to see his reactions in next episodes!
It's an idea about how Hinata can get better. I know we've seen him do a lot of great stuff, but as a pure volleyball player, he can't really play any defense consistently, and he's a middle blocker. Defense is supposed to be his thing. He can still barely receive, etc. So it's about learning what you can do why you are sitting and watching and observering. Just like if you were the ball boy for the Warriors or Celtics, you would learn to watch and anticipate the ball movement. Hinata, as a player, is still extremely raw. He's the opposite of Kagayama
The thing about what Hinata did was that there are a lot of “what ifs” surrounding the scenario. “What if he didn’t learn anything from being a ball boy? What if he didn’t get to play with the players at all? What if there was no one to advise him to change his perspective? What if they didn’t invite him to play with him?” Instead of practicing with his team, building strategies, honing his volleyball skills with his team. The fact still remained that if he didn’t get anything out of that sneaking in scenario, he would have wasted his entire time that he would have used to practice and learn more with his team. In real life, it’s too much of a risk considering they are going to Nationals and they don’t have enough time.
Hinata had no place in that training camp and letting him stay as a ball boy was already more than he deserved lol (i say this knowing full well the whole story and growth of his character in this arc)
@@Axel-ye8tttotally the coach is just thirsty for tall players. Hinata has a lot of potential and everyone sees that, if it wasn't for the coach he would have been definitely invited
@@aniket8350 It's good to see someone with my point of view. Yes, Hinata, still has a lot of work to do if he wants to become a great volleyball player in his own right, but Tsukishima is also a rookie player who has a lot of room for improvement and yet HE was invited. Even if it's not the case, the coach really does make it seem like height and power are what's most important when it comes to being an amazing volleyball player.
Love the image of Hinata standing in the closet with mops in hand--it's a visual representation of him literally starting over (mentally) from the ground up. In order to become truly great & to be able to stand on his own two feet as an athlete (i.e. without needing Kageyama to define him as a player), he needs to start again at the bottom, even if it means doing menial tasks around the court. It almost reminds me of how in traditional Chinese martial arts (namely Kung Fu/Wushu in the Shaolin monasteries), people who wanted to train martial arts actually wouldn't even be allowed to learn even the most basic of the basics for a long time (sometimes years) in order to test how much they truly wanted to learn. Back in the day, Wushu/Kung Fu weren't just a martial arts system--it was a way of life that required the highest level of devotion in order to begin training and to master. Volleyball is very much the same way for Hinata.
Ho ho you don't even know how important this is for him. He has everything to learn as a ball boy just keep watching. And remember the 2v2 moments cuz that's gonna come up later.
I completely believe the normies will understand more the point of this 'ball boy' arc as time goes on, but I think it bears repeating now: there's ALWAYS something you can do to improve in any situation. Think of Dachi, Sugawara and Asahi when they first joined Karasuno; no matches, barely any practise time because the gym kept being given away. They were also left as ball boys and forced to do little but pick up lost balls. At this point, they didn't have nationals on the way or even a team to play on as first years. But they used the ball boy job to practice receives, stayed late to work on their serves (this is why Suga even gets to play in the show by the by, his 'not so refreshing serves'). They found Shimizu to work as their manager and never stopped searching for ways to improve. The phrase 'chance favors the prepared mind' may seem played out and cliche, but it has a lot of value in life. You're not always going to know when a great oppertunity is going to come to you, heck it may not happen until years into whatever activity it is. But when chance comes knocking, those who put in the work and prepared themselves for its arrival will be first in line to reap the benefits. A large part of success is genuinely being ready to take it, and Hinata's greatest strength is his ability and will to eke EVERY LAST DROP of improvement out of any situation on the off chance it'll help down the line.
Seeing as you have reacted to Eurovision, have you seen the American version? American Song Contest aired for the first time this year from March to May with all 50 states + DC + 5 territories against each other with Snoop Dogg and Kelly Clarkson as hosts. Not as grand or diverse as Eurovision, but still fun to watch with different genres of music.
Don't hate the coach...he's just like that because he has the expect Hinata to succeed in his volleyball career than most other character....In the manga he was the one who helped Hinata the most going to Brazil....he the GOAT
“Don’t underestimate what it takes to be a ball boy”. Aye play stupid games win stupid prizes. That’s like me not being invited to an All-American camp and I jus show up and try to steal reps from the players invited.
We all love Hinata but sometimes that love blinds us to the fact that if you step back and look at him as a volleyball player, he is not that great at this moment. Everything that coaches have said is true. He is very talented, but he's not skilled at volleyball at this point in time. He is missing all the fundamentals besides spiking and in volleyball every skill is extremely important. He can barely receive or serve the ball, his blocks are random, and he's managed to avoid setting in emergency situations so far. But he can't perform these skills at a basic level which can quickly lead to lost points. This is something that Hinata has to come to terms with understand what he needs to grow as a player and you'll see that play out wonderfully in the next few episodes.
Since you all live in Indiana have you ever considered reacting to one of the great Indiana sports movies? Rudy, Hoosiers, or Breaking Away are all fantastic and would be reactions nobody else has really done.
The Shiratorizawa coach is absolutly right about Hinata if it wasn't for Kageyama he has no value as a player, he can't recieve, he can't block, he can't serve and he's just "decent" at spiking. Like he's for real the worst player in Karasuno
The denial about Hinata and Washijo is hilarious, but not uncommon. Hinata is a solid player, but so much of what he can do right now is due to Kageyama, which is why he's much less effective when Kageyama has to come off the court. (He also didn't play in set 5 against Shiratorizawa until Kageyama came in for that reason). Washijo isn't also just going to change his mind. Hinata needs to become a better player. And Washijo, despite being grumpy, is a fantastic coach, and he is teaching Hinata in the best way for Hinata right now.
For my opinion one(two) of the best parts of this series it when Washijo clenched his fist in joy when Hinata won a very important game moment. And if I'm not mistaken, he said that he, more than anyone else, has high expectations for Hinata.
Harsh, but hard to argue otherwise. I think he's better than Kinoshita at this point, and maybe Ennoshita too. The rest? Yeah, they're more valuable and can work in any team even without Kageyama, unlike Hinata.
@@kaxewdisco3594 at this point I think he's still the worst, he has worse fundamentals than anyone else because it's his first year playing real volleyball. If Kageyama wasn't playing I would rather have Narita, Kinoshita or Yamaguchi because they would actually dig some spikes Ennoshita is definitely better than Hinata, him and Suga are the best 2 players in the bench by a lot.
"He's going to let Hinata play in the end"
*Laughs in ball boy*
This is actually Hinata 'True starting line' for him as a Volleyball player. So far the show highlight Hinata 'good' moment, but not his relative skill level as a individual player.
That's why I love Hinata's character, he's a hard worker, he couldn't learn volleyball like the others, so his whole life was about him making the obstacle an opportunity to achieve his dream. And I think a lot of people don't understand this about the character, even though it's obvious, but here is definitely the true starting line for hinata
And suraj was right ushiwaka never got to the manga because he was reading all the ads lmao
I would argue about Takeda's words and Ukai's words being "conflicting advice." "He who climbs the ladder must start at the bottom" and "Don't underestimate being a ball boy" are actually ideas in agreement, just worded differently. For Takeda, what's important is that Hinata understands that he can't be on top without putting in all the effort in every area. For Ukai, what's important is that Hinata does not perceive the role of ball boy as unimportant or as unnecessary as a player. In both of their minds, Hinata needs to remember that he's still got a ways to go and each and every step is an important part of the process.
Totally, there was no conflicting advice in this episode.
One thing to remember is that (from what I understand) the saying doesn't translate well. I don't remember where but in a UA-cam comment of the same episode a person went in detail about it.
"He who climbs the ladder must start at the bottom."
Ah yes, the "Hinata isn't as good as you think he is" training arc, my favorite. Don't get me wrong! Hinata is a very talented player, but if you lack the basics, how can you support your team as an all-around player?
Now we get to see that Ushiwaka was kinda right in what he said about Hinata. He sensed his ambition, but saw that he lacks the basic foundations you need in order to be an average volleyball player. If you can't dig the ball nothing is going to start.
you guys seem to forget that hinata is actually a middle blocker at this moment, not a wing spiker
I highly doubt they understand what those terms mean. Haha.
Hinata has raw talent but he missed on so much fundamentals not practicing with a team in his junior year, so this is his chance to get away from all his being boxed in as a good decoy and redevelop his techniques from scratch to become an all around good player.
I love this arc for how much pay off it has later on in this season in particular and the series in general
I love this arc. It is just a reminder that watching and learning is sometimes the best way to improve your overall development.
4:24 We played a whole match against that super tall dude in season 2... The Normies forgetting things tradition is being kept alive :))
With all the things they react to I’m not rly surprised. I’m satisfied with them remembering the MCs
And to be fair, with the new design and without his uniform he looks completely different xD
Don't underestimate what it takes to be a ball boy!!! Also i love everyone at this camp 😭 wholesome boys
The coach is right tho. Hinata is relying on the same old tricks and he gets lucky with it. The reason why he’s being so hard on him is because he was in his shoes one time and he doesn’t want hinata to go through the same thing he did. I think that’s the reason why he had him receiving the ball, so he could hopefully learn how to receive. Like he didn’t want to become his coach but the least he could do was teach him the fundamentals he was missing. As an athlete and I’m sure any athlete would agree with me on this when I say there are athletes or maybe even us who are specifically good in one category, but yet lack the talent in other categories. Trust me tho hinata WILL get way better trust me
I'm guessing you guys are ahead of this current episode, but it's worth pointing this out nonetheless...
You guys are missing the elephant in the room. Why do you think the Shiratorizawa coach went out of his way to give him a path for him to still be in the camp? Why do you think Hinata gets yelled at for being a ball boy? Because Washijou doesn't like him? No, that's not true. We know the reason why Washijoy yells at a player, we've been told how he does things since the third season. He's harsh with players he's counting on.
That's all I'm giving you guys in case it hasn't clicked already.
I can tell Suraj truly loves this, his reaction when Hinata was questioning himself, asking what is he doing and to find something he can do in a place like that. Can't wait to see his reactions in next episodes!
It's an idea about how Hinata can get better. I know we've seen him do a lot of great stuff, but as a pure volleyball player, he can't really play any defense consistently, and he's a middle blocker. Defense is supposed to be his thing. He can still barely receive, etc. So it's about learning what you can do why you are sitting and watching and observering. Just like if you were the ball boy for the Warriors or Celtics, you would learn to watch and anticipate the ball movement.
Hinata, as a player, is still extremely raw. He's the opposite of Kagayama
The thing about what Hinata did was that there are a lot of “what ifs” surrounding the scenario. “What if he didn’t learn anything from being a ball boy? What if he didn’t get to play with the players at all? What if there was no one to advise him to change his perspective? What if they didn’t invite him to play with him?”
Instead of practicing with his team, building strategies, honing his volleyball skills with his team. The fact still remained that if he didn’t get anything out of that sneaking in scenario, he would have wasted his entire time that he would have used to practice and learn more with his team. In real life, it’s too much of a risk considering they are going to Nationals and they don’t have enough time.
Hinata had no place in that training camp and letting him stay as a ball boy was already more than he deserved lol (i say this knowing full well the whole story and growth of his character in this arc)
Nah he should’ve been in that camp the coach being biased to tall players was bs
@@Axel-ye8tttotally the coach is just thirsty for tall players. Hinata has a lot of potential and everyone sees that, if it wasn't for the coach he would have been definitely invited
@@aniket8350 It's good to see someone with my point of view. Yes, Hinata, still has a lot of work to do if he wants to become a great volleyball player in his own right, but Tsukishima is also a rookie player who has a lot of room for improvement and yet HE was invited. Even if it's not the case, the coach really does make it seem like height and power are what's most important when it comes to being an amazing volleyball player.
You guys haven't caught on these he's gonna stay and develop
Goshiki not screaming bloody murder after finding headless Hinata just sounds... weird. YaBoyRoshi's editor, you did this to me. 💀
I always hear the scream
I love there editor😭
it's cool see them skeptics about this, the pay off will be very good 😁
Love the image of Hinata standing in the closet with mops in hand--it's a visual representation of him literally starting over (mentally) from the ground up. In order to become truly great & to be able to stand on his own two feet as an athlete (i.e. without needing Kageyama to define him as a player), he needs to start again at the bottom, even if it means doing menial tasks around the court. It almost reminds me of how in traditional Chinese martial arts (namely Kung Fu/Wushu in the Shaolin monasteries), people who wanted to train martial arts actually wouldn't even be allowed to learn even the most basic of the basics for a long time (sometimes years) in order to test how much they truly wanted to learn. Back in the day, Wushu/Kung Fu weren't just a martial arts system--it was a way of life that required the highest level of devotion in order to begin training and to master. Volleyball is very much the same way for Hinata.
The joke is that Ushiwaka reads the ads instead of the comics in the Jump magazine.
More like also. He is so honest and straightforward, skipping ads probably feels like stealing to him
I know the contest is over, but I feel compelled to share this haiku.
Strange as it may seem
The voice of reason is Pat
When watching Haikyuu
I just finished this season and I loved the Ball Boy Arc. Its fantastic.
the 'evil' coach voice actor voiced frieza, the track suit matches the color too hehe
That was coach ukai you heard talking when Hinata said "think what I can do here"
Rana is like Coach Washijo, like them anime teen boy tall and strong
Ho ho you don't even know how important this is for him. He has everything to learn as a ball boy just keep watching. And remember the 2v2 moments cuz that's gonna come up later.
Imagine barging into something uninvited and blamed the organizer for not letting you taking part. Think with a different perspective for once lmfao
I just noticed the end of the episode he is standing in the position as Nishinoya.
Kageyama is the king of the court, but Tsukishima is king of the roast
I completely believe the normies will understand more the point of this 'ball boy' arc as time goes on, but I think it bears repeating now: there's ALWAYS something you can do to improve in any situation.
Think of Dachi, Sugawara and Asahi when they first joined Karasuno; no matches, barely any practise time because the gym kept being given away. They were also left as ball boys and forced to do little but pick up lost balls. At this point, they didn't have nationals on the way or even a team to play on as first years.
But they used the ball boy job to practice receives, stayed late to work on their serves (this is why Suga even gets to play in the show by the by, his 'not so refreshing serves'). They found Shimizu to work as their manager and never stopped searching for ways to improve.
The phrase 'chance favors the prepared mind' may seem played out and cliche, but it has a lot of value in life. You're not always going to know when a great oppertunity is going to come to you, heck it may not happen until years into whatever activity it is.
But when chance comes knocking, those who put in the work and prepared themselves for its arrival will be first in line to reap the benefits. A large part of success is genuinely being ready to take it, and Hinata's greatest strength is his ability and will to eke EVERY LAST DROP of improvement out of any situation on the off chance it'll help down the line.
Amazing reaction!! 🔥👍
Season 4 by faaaar the best Haikyu Season yall gon see
Seeing as you have reacted to Eurovision, have you seen the American version? American Song Contest aired for the first time this year from March to May with all 50 states + DC + 5 territories against each other with Snoop Dogg and Kelly Clarkson as hosts. Not as grand or diverse as Eurovision, but still fun to watch with different genres of music.
I love Marketa's laugh
Ushiwaka is reading Shounen Jump, the weekly magazine where Haikyuu was published. But being a weirdo, he also reads the ads in there
When the match will came then you will see that his improvement
Don't hate the coach...he's just like that because he has the expect Hinata to succeed in his volleyball career than most other character....In the manga he was the one who helped Hinata the most going to Brazil....he the GOAT
Rana saying everyone is mean while she’s a bully in real life
Irony
Started at the bottom and now we're here
“Don’t underestimate what it takes to be a ball boy”. Aye play stupid games win stupid prizes. That’s like me not being invited to an All-American camp and I jus show up and try to steal reps from the players invited.
We all love Hinata but sometimes that love blinds us to the fact that if you step back and look at him as a volleyball player, he is not that great at this moment. Everything that coaches have said is true. He is very talented, but he's not skilled at volleyball at this point in time. He is missing all the fundamentals besides spiking and in volleyball every skill is extremely important. He can barely receive or serve the ball, his blocks are random, and he's managed to avoid setting in emergency situations so far. But he can't perform these skills at a basic level which can quickly lead to lost points.
This is something that Hinata has to come to terms with understand what he needs to grow as a player and you'll see that play out wonderfully in the next few episodes.
Since you all live in Indiana have you ever considered reacting to one of the great Indiana sports movies? Rudy, Hoosiers, or Breaking Away are all fantastic and would be reactions nobody else has really done.
Just to all of you know the couch voice actor is not the same person
i really don't get why they hate on shiratorizawas coach
The reason I didn't participate is because the volleyball can't travel overseas probably
are jump serves really that hard? i hear people keep syaing that, but i kinda dont get it
You guys are not ready for the next episode.
Suraj is Sokka 👍
The Shiratorizawa coach is absolutly right about Hinata if it wasn't for Kageyama he has no value as a player, he can't recieve, he can't block, he can't serve and he's just "decent" at spiking. Like he's for real the worst player in Karasuno
I havent seen anyone so small minded as marketta
The denial about Hinata and Washijo is hilarious, but not uncommon. Hinata is a solid player, but so much of what he can do right now is due to Kageyama, which is why he's much less effective when Kageyama has to come off the court. (He also didn't play in set 5 against Shiratorizawa until Kageyama came in for that reason).
Washijo isn't also just going to change his mind. Hinata needs to become a better player. And Washijo, despite being grumpy, is a fantastic coach, and he is teaching Hinata in the best way for Hinata right now.
For my opinion one(two) of the best parts of this series it when Washijo clenched his fist in joy when Hinata won a very important game moment.
And if I'm not mistaken, he said that he, more than anyone else, has high expectations for Hinata.
All these build up is effing worth it! 😏
First half of forth season is painfully slow. 😔😪😥
Hinata is Karasuno's worst player, the only reason he even gets a chance to play is because of Kageyama
Harsh, but hard to argue otherwise. I think he's better than Kinoshita at this point, and maybe Ennoshita too. The rest? Yeah, they're more valuable and can work in any team even without Kageyama, unlike Hinata.
@@kaxewdisco3594 at this point I think he's still the worst, he has worse fundamentals than anyone else because it's his first year playing real volleyball.
If Kageyama wasn't playing I would rather have Narita, Kinoshita or Yamaguchi because they would actually dig some spikes
Ennoshita is definitely better than Hinata, him and Suga are the best 2 players in the bench by a lot.
Aku terciduk tengok patung kucing atas meja dorang tu 💀
I can't wait for the time skip.
No one talks about it as much as the decreased animation quality, but I do not like the new VA for the coach this season. S2 coach was my fav
Plz react to RRR it's real life anime it's just awesome
need stranger things
Reaction stranger thingsssssss plsssss
REACT TO LAAL SINGH CHADDA ALREADY
React to More Anime pls...
He doesn't know how to receive. He can't do anything without kageyanma
Y'all are disrespecting ball boys and I'm not here for that...
Sorry, but, seeing Rana keep biting her nail making me uncomfortable 😣
Plz watch tokyo revengers