Adult Swim’s Checkered Past reveals Cartoon Network has no future (a commentary)
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Checkered Past, the new block on Adult Swim devoted to classic Cartoon Network shows, is an interesting launch, especially given it means starting the adult-focused channel at the new time of 5pm. But is this nostalgia trip a good thing, or is it just speeding up the end of Cartoon Network? I take a look at the challenges facing both sides of the channel, explore the impacts of the new timeslot and the new block's programming, and explore if Cartoon Network being taken over by Adult Swim like this is a sign of the much-loved kids' TV channel dying. I also ask what the launch means for future investment (or lack thereof) in both channels, and whether Adult Swim airing Cartoon Network shows through Checkered Past is really the best way for these Warner Bros. Discovery brands to showcase the best of animation.
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it's hurting cn's future, not only that retro doesn't rate, and what is even the point having a block showing old reruns of older content that can be available to stream on Max or online, but this is also concerning what will hold for Cartoon Network.
Cartoon Network needs to be more edgy and boundary pushing
Blame warner bros discovery
@@elmorehairston-ne4mpdon't blame the company but blame the CEO for ruining our childhood
@@NOON2TV I choose to also blame the people supporting the choice for Checkered Past.
Well, let's be honest. Cartoon Network is no longer the network that everyone can watch without having to go through 15 reruns a week. I mean, say what you want about Adult Swim, but at least it's giving new shows a chance. Also, the Cartoonito block isn't really faring well, either. So, it's time to say goodbye to Cartoon Network and hello to the Adult Swim network that has been gearing up for several years now. I'm serious! Cartoon Network's lack of creativity and entertainment made the people behind the scenes want to give Adult Swim a longer runtime. Checkered Past may not last long because retro doesn't rate, but Adult Swim can always make new programming that will replace it, and that will turn everything around for Adult Swim. It's too late for Cartoon Network.
It looks like Cartoon Network may have to be put down if these disappointments keep up.
@@tavvyprods1275 I think that it is already being put down at this point. I mean, come on. It's not even on for half the day anymore.
I just gave up on CN and made my own
www.twitch.tv/classiccn
Best part is commercials are more for nostalgia and entertainment than ads, which is great.
Thanks for making a bad time worse with unsolicited comments on my bittersweet past
@@lucky7bolt456 Ikr. But it's true. 4th of july was literally just craig of the creek ALL DAY. One show! Not the worst, you can't even add one more? Maybe this will brighten your day though:
www.twitch.tv/classiccn
I made a curated tv channel I run to twitch 24/7. It basically airs all the best shows from CN, interspaced with old bumps and funny/old commercials. It's a weekly schedule, so the show you see on at a given time will come back around, but the episodes themselves are randomized. Even runs adult swim, with anime over the weekend. Also has a saturday morning OLD cartoon block. Popeye, The old hana barbera scooby doo ripoffs. And even a sunday afternoon toonami block. It can be a bit iffy at times. Sometimes it likes to desync or break and I have to reload it manually, but it's infrequent enough that it's more than watchable. Maybe once a week it'll have an issue.
Meanwhile Adult Swim is getting it's own channel in Latin America starting in October while Adult Swim is being expanded and not getting a channel in the USA, smh. I would prefer Checkered Past airing on Cartoon Network because these shows are for everyone not just the adults who grew up with them. Sure they have adult humor but that's what makes the shows entertaining for both kids and adults.
I am GLAD adult swim is expanding to latin America, but this is like the SIXTH time that it tried to expand here.
@@TheLuisSloth Let's hope the new Adult Swim channel in Latin America is successful.
realest comment ive seen
Modern kids would find it "offensive"
@@TeamStudNation1280 yeah, but i don’t give a damn, their opinions don’t change the world at all.
This is all CNs fault. They sabotaged themselves with terrible scheduling
Not all, it’s also Discovery’s fault for purging future unreleased content
No, it's not. Blame David Zaslav & WB Discovery for purging animated shows off HBO Max as well as getting CN's Burbank studios shut down last month.
I take it they're still airing nothing but teen titans go reruns?
@@fsanmiguel666not from what I've seen as of late, but that's the big reason why CN is in this state. For some reason the previous president was obsessed with TTG and gave better shows the boot. Sonic Boom was actually interesting, and what ruined it was the unfair timeslots
Don't blame CN, Blame WB discovery
Let's be real, most kids don't even watch tv anymore. They get most of their entertainment on the internet from places like streaming services, tiktok or youtube. The people who been tuning in apparently have been millennials and older gen Z for Adult Swim and the current push by the studio is to cater towards the demographic who are actually watching the network. Adult swim has been doing great, new shows like Unicorn warriors eternal and the new Superman have been a success and AS have been producing animated movies from their older shows Unfortunately things look grim for most childrens television networks as they started just airing new cartoons on streaming services where kids are more likely to watch them on.
I mean, there are still people who watch cable TV, including me.
The schedules dope now 🤷🏻♂️
THIS. There's no point in making new cartoons aimed at children and airing them on cable. How many people under the age of 20 do you know who still regularly watches cable?
I'm excited for this. 1) A lot of the older shows are the best shows. I am not being nostalgic alot of those shows are before my time. I got into some of them after they ended. 2) It could introduce the classics to a younger generation. Since some kids watch adult swim.
Adult Swim is not meant for kids, this is a CHILDREN'S block that is airing on ADULT SWIM, it's for older teens and adults not for kids, sure kids do watch Adult Swim but it's more fitting for Cartoon Network.
@@BricksVids It's not but they do anyway. 10 and 12 year olds watch Family Guy. Checkered past would be perfectly appropriate for kids. Checkered past makes sense to be on adult swim because it gets attention from adult fans who grew up with these shows. Apparently Adult Swim gets more advertising dollars.
@@icecreamhero2375 True there are kids who would watch Family Guy, I first watched it when I was 9 and my mom let me watch it but some parents do not. If Adult Swim does better in advertising and ratings they should get their own channel here in the US like Canada. Adult Swim is getting a channel in Latin America in October.
@@BricksVidsAt the end of the day [as] and CN just an nft on the screen. The content will be new to the kids.
Yeah, despite [Adult Swim] themselves was meant for adults, they finally did something smart for a younger audience with Checkered Past. Guess this shows they really do care about the younger audience more than Cartoon Network does.
Cartoon Network finally have some new shows Like the Ivando cartoon series and that tiny toons revival.
but the real reason why AS expanded was because kids stopped watching TV and towards streaming and YT, and CN has only have a few shows in constant rotation.
This reminds me a little bit of Nick Rewind. It was nice to throw on when I was up at midnight. I was born in 98 and got cable when I was 10. I was brought up on Rugrats and it's still super funny, it got me into Hey Arnold which is pretty good, and it got me to watch Rocky which is ok.
I miss that era of Nick of being able to watch the shows I grew up with and the only way to do that now is on some bootleg site or PlutoTV of all things as all of those shows have been relegated to that platform. It was cool sitting up late to see Ren & Stimpy as well as Kenan & Kel. I even got to see the so called banned Halloween movie Cry Baby Lane on it. It's on UA-cam nowadays but it was something to say the least.
I was born in 06 and I also grew up with the 90s Are All That/Nick Splat/NickRewind block on TeenNick. I would change the channel to TeenNick every night around 9 pm to watch those shows before bed if I wasn't watching anything on Boomerang.
The Checkered Past block being on Adult Swim and not Cartoon Network is really concerning. I'm really disappointed that CN has been dropping the ball on content. Even back in the early 2010s, they had so much interesting variety with the stuff they had on the network. Now, all of that is barely seen on the network or is getting dumped onto Adult Swim. I think Adult Swim is great, but I really dislike how it feels like the execs are putting less care into CN. It's even more apparent with the Cartoonito block taking dominance in the mornings, as well. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the channel becomes Adult Swim. It really sucks because CN used to be the best kids network, in my opinion. Great video, Benzie!
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@@benzjbring back 2010 Cartoon Network
The original Cartoon Network escaped into Adult Swim.
Cartoon Network killed themselves and it's too late for them to turn back. It was all self inflicted, especially when they were spamming a certain show that most people despise pretty much all day not too long ago.
They might as well at the rate they're going.
Checkered Past has a good idea but having the block as part of Adult Swim is a red flag. Not to mention, every Saturday evenings will have KOTH airing for 3.5 hours
I saw that and it's going to have the same issue as Rick & Morty with it cluttering up all of the time it'll have going forward. It airs from 1pm to around 5pm on FXX on most days as is.
Big time! I mean, changing the ratings!? That's a huge don't!
@@jorgezaldivar3113 I mean, the ratings were already questionable, so why change it now, after over 22 years, and give it to a channel dedicated exclusively for adult programs (yes, I'm aware there are minors who watch it, however, that's not because they're allowed to, there's a reason you had to change the channel)
Checkered Past does not fit Adult Swim’s criteria at all.
@@yanrokbowl28 It depends on your parents because my folks allowed me to watch Adult Swim back when I was only 7 years old, so I don't get the whole "having to change the channel" part.
I like how they're going for nostalgia, but my main concern is the start time and shows. Why are you starting an ADULT programming block at 5pm? Kids are still up and they might want to actually watch CN'S stuff, except they can't. As for Checkered Past, will they add more shows to the block if it succeeds in the ratings? Or will they expand the block?
As for Cartoon Network premieres, the only timeslot they will have for those will (most likely) be Saturdays or Sundays at 9am or 10am, which is still pretty good timeslots, if you ask me. But you also want to have premieres on weeknights too during the school year. But here's the problem: Checkered Past takes up the original "primetime" slots they had before Adult Swim's expansion to 5pm. Only having one or two premiere/new episode timeslots will definitely hurt the network's goal of younger audience expansion. Long story short: Checkered Past will hurt Cartoon Network, not only as a programming block, but a network in general, as they are trying to appeal to too many audiences.
Cartoon Network hurt itself with its shitty reruns. As far I know there are only like three different programs while Adult Swim have many.
You say all this but Cartoon Network was already hurting thanks to their Teen Titans Go and Amazing World of Gumball only time slots. They barely released anything new in the past few years.
@@filmaru8556 I agree. If they released more new content, the ratings for regular CN would be higher.
@@wyattnelson5218 Yeah but they also need to make room for the rest of us who miss their old shows.
@@filmaru8556 Define "old shows"
Legitimately I think that the CN Skull symbolizes Cartoon Network’s end, and how it’s a dead channel at this point, bringing new meaning to the symbol than just scaring kids from watching [adult swim].
It is some pretty ironic symbolism, isn't it?
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Pretty sure it’s just one of the Cartoon Network studios logos, they show it at the end of most adult swim shows
@@kartkobainrockzThey use to. The Skull logo was phased out around 2012 but now it’s back.
The Skull was shown at the end of Williams Street logo for a while. Nice Propaganda.
I remember it being after a show ended like Aqua teen hunger force
I can't believe that the CN schedule is still just constant reruns of Gumball and Teen Titan Go! That's some serious stagnation.
i mean those are the only good shows they have running
@@survived4679Only good show*
@@survived4679no teen titans Go no please friend
I’m actually loving the new block because it brings me back to the best era of Cartoon Network before the fall. You say all this but Cartoon Network was already hurting thanks to their Teen Titans Go and Amazing World of Gumball only time slots. They barely released anything new in the past few years.
I not like of teen titans Go
To me Cartoon Network was great Cartoons for all ages and Adult Swim was mature cartoons for adults. I think with the success of Adult Swim, the bosses of the network thought that they needed to dumb down CN and focus that into a very ninche young age group. And now they've backed themselves into this tiny box of what can be shown on the CN side that any new content has to go to Adult Swim. I feel like instead of letting Adult Swim take over the whole channel, they should have just created a new block that would be for kids and let checkered past and new content stay under the Cartoon Network branding.
I was talking to Benzie in a Discord we're in about this who ordeal about the [AS] time slot change. As a central time zoner, that's 4PM my time and that is truly way too early. Also since you brought up Invincible Fight Girl, I won't be shocked if it has the same fate as My Adventures with Superman and Unicorn: Warriors Eternal by moving over to Adult Swim.
I’ve been looking forward to Invincible Fight Girl since catching it’s announcement.
Does CN have a central time zone feed?
Central Time viewers receive the Eastern feed.
Over in my zone, the block starts at 2pm.
@@jonathanwilson5011Is this the pacific time feed?
Adult Swim taking over Cartoon Network is the best thing to happen to the channel because of one simple fact: Adult Swim lets shows cook. Adult Swim’s first show ever “Home Movies” was previously cancelled just 5 episodes in on their previous channel UPN, but Adult Swim saw potential and bought the rights to the unaired episodes, and it’s was so successful they got greenlit for more seasons. Adult Swim gave Family Guy a second chance when Fox wouldn’t, same with Futurama. Adult Swim gave Samurai Jack proper closure when CN wouldn’t. Unicorn and My Adventures with Superman moving to Adult Swim has made their viewerships skyrocket, assuring they won’t suffer the same fate many other shows on CN did. Hell, Adult Swim saved Toonami when CN ran it into the ground.
Adult Swim is unhinged and experiments with anything so long as it makes for an interesting viewing experience. If anyone is worthy of running Cartoon Network, it’s those crazy bastards at William Street. Checkered Past is proof that they know what the soul of Cartoon Network is, and will do everything to keep that soul alive.
I think you make a great point, but in this case, I don't think the soul works well without the body. I don't feel picking CN's most broadly accepted past hits is, in itself, an indication that Adult Swim has any more of an idea about Cartoon Network than Cartoon Network itself does -- if that were true, the 30th anniversary celebrations last year would've been similar cause for optimism (and I feel it would've been unfounded there too). I'd be more convinced if Checkered Past started running a broader array of CN's archive, but there's no current indications that's the plan (and even if it were, the limited success of similar blocks elsewhere give me reasons to cast doubt on the longevity of that effort).
And in any case, it's all still reheating leftovers at the end of the day; doing nothing to fix Cartoon Network's current troubles or future problems. I don't think Adult Swim taking "saving CN" on as a peripheral task (as much as it already is one for head Michael Ouweleen) would be a beneficial thing for either side of the channel space, as it divides up the efforts over too many priorities.
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@@benzjI’m guessing you don’t watch much Adult Swim do you? Adult Swim is more than just what shows are on it. Adult Swim itself, is one giant show. Their signature bumpers, the underground music they hand select, their variety of old and new programming, and any other oddballs they throw in for the hell of it. You don’t tune in to Adult Swim for just one show, you tune in to Adult Swim for the entire thing to see what they throw at you. Checkered Past is just one part of the entire Adult Swim lineup that gives the channel its legendary vibe. You can see this in the bumps, how they harken back to CN City but with a twist that gives it some of that Adult Swim flavor.
They aired a full marathon of Futurama when they had to let it go.
@@eatatjoes6751Same with Family Guy. They even had a special bumper of all the iconic Adult Swim originals like Space Ghost and the Venture Bros waving the Griffins goodbye. Never did I think a television bumper would make me emotional like that
If only Thundercats 2011, Storm Hawks and Symbonic Titans were on Adult Swim
They should really fire the person in charge of scheduling at Cartoon Network.
Agreed
Yes
The schedules dope now 🤷🏻♂️
Fully agree. CN deserves far better treatment than this
Why don't they just air this block on regular cartoon network
That's what I'm sayin'
Anyone want to go all "cringe SJW" on them until they can't take it anymore?
Its the simple answer of what kids watch today compared to back then. They know that more story focused groundbreaking animation is goong to be more appreciated by older audinces because thats what they grew up on thats why they're moving adult swim and making it the animation block cause they've always done independent animation for years that was successful. A lot of things that appeals to kids today mostly focus around hypersensitive comedy which of couse isn't lasting long for CN
Another major problem with Checkered Past is the entrenchment of the internet.
Like, I can watch Dexter's Lab whenever I want, pirated.
Why would I need a network for that?
For some people it’s more of a convenience I work out of town in construction and 9/10 I put on Cartoon Network just to watch the Checkered Past block and to watch Adult Swim till I go to bed to get up the next day to go to work to do it all over again
one of cartoon networks biggest problems is that it relies heavily on Teen Titans GO reruns
It's particularly strange how people like Ouweleen (who was present as a creative director at the time of the Checkered Past series' original run) and the folks running CN/AS are letting their originality slip, even to the point of bringing over a series which - for intents and purposes - has existed since 2020 in the rest of the world, and _that_ being its only new product for CN this year.
5pm is an insane hour to start Adult Swim in. Most US kids haven't had dinner by then, and prime time programming is normally past 8pm! How many shows that CN used to air would be considered adult today, simply because the network was experimental in its ideas and trusted its creators? The answer is _"a lot of them"!_ It doesn't help that (HBO) Max keeps pulling animated shows from their streaming service regardless if they fit the demographic of CN or not.
You know the scene from Space Jam 2 of Rick & Morty cameo. That is the embodiment of WB putting more source on Adult Swim than such as CN.
Stu Snyder was the last CN, Boomerang and [as] President that cared about Providing Content equally for each Network. WBD is a mess rn.
Which is funny you say that cause people years ago said he was the worst thing that happened to CN and people treated him like he was the antichrist. Now people miss him funny how that happens
@@kerrysraritiesYup the Irony. For me though, I never understood too much of the hate he got, I get the hate towards live action shows but I genuinely like the Teen/Young Adult Direction he took the Network in the early 2010s. With stuff like Young Justice, Looney Tunes Show, SymBionic Titan, Ben 10 Ultimate Alien/Alien Force/Omniverse, Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, Green Lanter:TAS, MAD, Steven Universe, TAW Of Gumball, Regular Show, Adventure Time, 6teen, Stoked, Total Drama Island, Legends of Chima, Star Wars The Clone Wars (Pre Disney). He Definitely folly'd at the beginning of his Leadership but he had the right footing by the end of it.
For real? He infested the network with mediocre live action series that tried to compete with Nick and Disney channel and completely forgot that CN is a cartoon only network
@@wwg2005young justice was cancelled at it's second season
Regular show, aventure time and gumball suffered a lot of censorship
Synbionic titan was cancelled due to a stupid controversy
The creator of chowder had to leave due to toxic workplace
Personally, I think that Checkered Past is a step in the right direction. The shows that Cartoon Network has been airing the past several years have been a major turnoff; and its not just them--Nickelodeon and Disney are on the bandwagon as well. Nostalgia is what brings in the ratings for networks like this. Modern cartoons are too political and dark in most cases; I've sat in on a few and couldn't make it through the first 5 minutes with them. I'd rather watch something like Dexter's Lab any day rather than Teen Titans Go.
This is like a stark contrast from what cartoon network used to be to how it is now. Now cartoon network looks so kiddy like they ponder to preshoolers and younger kids
Checkered Past in terms of commercials seem to be aiming towards kids and adults (just like what ACME Night has been doing for a while), so I don't think capitalizing on toy ads will be an issue.
Also ACME Night has been airing the shows that was meant for it still. Unicorn Warriors Eternal even had a marathon on the block. In fact ACME Night has been confusing for a while now, with Bob's Burgers and (more recently) Futurama airing on it.
Cartoon Network should run 24/7 again, Adult Swim should have its own channel and run 24/7, and Cartoonito deserves more hours on Cartoon Network.
I feel like Cartoonito should also get its own channel, just like how Nick Jr and Disney Jr have their own channels
I don't get the purpose of Cartoonito tbh
Sure that would free up scheduling tensions and negotiations, however the main problem with that idea is that CN would literally become 24/7 Gumball occasionally broken up by creg of the creek and clarence.. dropping everything that makes the network even remotely interesting to watch.. not to mention the view count would absolutely plummet esp during graveyard hours.
It's worth noting that Adult swim is a sister channel to TBS and would become completely redundant and pointless if it became its own channel.
With cartoonito there simply isnt anywhere near enough investment in content for it to even remotely consider becoming its own channel any time soon.. and even if it somehow did it would be a similar redundancy situation.. Why have your child watch cartoonito when they can watch PBS kids instead and see the same elmo and thomas the tank engine??
Cartoonito sucks.
Looking at the presented toons on the Checkered Past block has me believing that they’re gonna milk their more popular nostalgic non-write-off original shows in terms of nostalgia baiting to no end.
Yeah, mainly.
@@eatatjoes6751 And to think they're pandering to the same group who accuse the current generation for being too "fragile".
Perhaps it's a ploy to get more people watching the channel. Add all-time favorites to a special block, label it under Adult Swim's name to make it sound edgier, and more people tune in. Ed Edd n Eddy and Billy & Mandy being back on the air are reason enough for me to watch the block.
CN has such an amazing backlog for reruns instead of just Airing Gumball and TTG 90 percent of the time that arent really dated by todays standard. Fosters, chowder, flapjack, KND, 6teen, TDI, code lyoko, totally spies, adventure time, teen titans, class of 3000, ben 10, ben 10 alien force. Im sure kids would love these shows plus it will bring older viewers back. Also didnt they rehire Craig McCracken last year to reboot PPG and Fosters?
The reason Adult Swim hasn't suffered as much as CN in the long run I feel is just because the schedule has stayed pretty consistant and healthy.
CN's schedule for a good 5 years was just hot garbage, too many reruns of the same 3 shows, poor timeslots for new episodes and premieres, poor advertising for new shows, a lack of fun identity etc.
Adult Swim though, oh my god, they are consistantly good. They've been consistantly good for as long as I can remember.
The identity has stayed consistant, they always promote their shows well and give consistant timeslots, it has personality etc.
Focusing more on CN and how to give it more punch is what the network needs to do, because if Adult Swim is refocused too much I feel in a few years it'll devolve into sitcom reruns.
Ever since Cartoon Network changed their logo and look in 2010 the network has been getting worse and worse each year. Constant marathons of the same few shows, live action for a brief, no action shows, classics ignored, failed reboots, cartoonito... The 2000s was so much better. Sad news but im not surprised
CN in the early 2010 was actually really great
Nah, early 2010's CN was great, the biggest mistake/flaw was the action shows getting axed in 2013 (like Young Justice) or Sym-Bionic Titan only lasting 1 season in 2011, but Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gumball, Steven Universe, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated, etc. put CN back on the map, and the late 2000's was hot garbage with the CN Real crap, the early 2010's variety was miles better than the late 2000's.
@@mqgTWO96 The early 2010s wasn't really great. Adventure time, Gumball, Regular Show, etc are good but it doesn't compare to the variety of the 2000s. And CN Real was only a block on Wednesdays nights in 2009. From 2010 to 2013 they added more live action shows and they aired practically daily on the channel. Level Up, The Incredible Crew, a cheap gameshow from FOX, and Destroy build destroy and dude what would happen.
@@jkdjjj Nah it really wasn't. Yeah Gumball & Regular show were good but marathons of the same few shows constantly. And don't forget the channel kept playing live action shows still. More so than in 2009 when it debuted, all the way til 2013. So no it wasn't a good time compared to the 2000s
@@mart5610 I'm comparing early 2010's CN to the LATE 2000's, not the early-mid 2000's. The late 90's to early-mid 2000's were better than any other period, but I'm specifically referring to late 2000's CN, the time Re-Animated became Out Of Jimmy's Head, Fridays got replaced by Fried Dynamite, Adult Swim became 7 nights a week, TOM 4 led to the end of Toonami on CN even tho the block returned on Adult Swim in 2012, many long time originals ending around the time, CN Real becoming greenlit, etc.
Chowder, Flapjack, Secret Saturdays, Ben 10: Alien Force, etc. were there, and of course Total Drama which was the only good Canadian import (cuz the majority of the Canadian imports were mediocre), but those weren't enough, and neither of those compare to the early 2010's programming in quality like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gumball, Steven Universe, etc. and let's not forget, even tho many of these were cancelled too soon, the early 2010's still gave us Young Justice, Sym-Bionic Titan, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated, Generator Rex, Cartoon Planet (for classics), etc. and even The Looney Tunes Show and MAD were underrated imo. Even if some live-action shows ran 'til the early 2010's, but there was already live-action on CN since the mid 2000's before Re-Animated became the first ever live-action original produced by CN, and we know what that became. and that's your opinion, there's so many other Cartoon Network years in the 2000's that were controversial by multiple generations, it's an endless cycle.
There were controversial years as early as 2004/2005 (Toonami being moved to Saturday nights in place of Miguzi; the first live-action movies airing before Re-Animated which became Out Of Jimmy's Head, or hell, even the debuting originals of 2005 & 2006 like Camp Lazlo, Juniper Lee, My Gym Partner's A Monkey, or Squirrel Boy not holding up to the original Cartoon Cartoons from the 90's to earlier 2000's (which don't even hold up to the early 2010's originals like Adventure Time or Regular Show either). But there were way more positives than that during the City era of course which we're all aware of.
I'm sorry, but each year got worse throughout the late 2000's, while each year got better throughout the early 2010's with the exception of how the action shows were treated due to lack of toy sales/merchandise. It wasn't 'til Teen Titans Go! took over throughout the mid 2010's that led to another downfall, including other reboots being produced as well like PPG (2016), Ben 10 (2017), or Total DramaRama.
my prespective: was told tv is bad for you in the 90s -> anime and kamen rider becomes popular on the internet via torrent streaming in the 2000s -> adult tv took a hit from the ren and stimpy reboot -> 2005 happens where everything falls apart -> netflix debuts in infancy -> thundercats reboot gets canceled and the nostalgia trend takes off -> the star war wars sequel trilogy causes anger and debate -> everyone is tired of entertainment and feels they want to move on -> some people get rid of cable boxes
*sigh* I don't think any of this is Michael Ouweleen's fault at all, I think things where looking up until everything changed when the WBD merger attacked.
I feel like what could be a good approach is for them to treat Checkered Past like a seperate entity. It would still be part of adult swim, but maybe throughout the block, instead of the as logo, it's the Checkered Past logo at the bottom of the screen. Instead of it being treated just as a nostalgia block, it could be presented also more like a family block. Something where people who watched CN are parents now can show it to their kids. The AS ads could be fewer, and be more appropriate that a kid could watch. Basically, Checkered Past could be "middle ground" for before the more "adult" shows come on. Then, revivals of these shows could maybe even come on it, and maybe after that it could expand with original content.
I was thinking put the the adult swim "[as]" as a watermark in the corner but make it look like the old CN logo from 2004-9
Thanks a lot David Zaslav, for getting CN's Burbank studios shut down last month!!! (As well as purging most of their animated content off HBO Max)
Why haven’t they just made adult swim it’s own channel at this point
I believe the Warner Discovery merger had a huge impact on what would be greenlit going forward and what would go where. There were more shows to be made for Cartoon Network. Driftwood, Invincible Fight Girl, My Adventures with Superman, as well as The Amazing World or Gumball Movie and continuation would have been Carroon Network projects. Shows were cancelled or moved to other studios to be worked on. I believe David Zaslov has something to do with content being cut or pushed to a different network.
It is disappointing to see Cartoon Network go from a respected network with shows that appealed to multiple generation's, to a network that creates learning programs for preschooler's and shows that do not break the mold of what kids television can be. More adults and teens have watched Cartoon Network in the past. It would make more sense to create shows that appeal to everyone on the main platform of Cartoon Network. It at least gives more variety to Adult Swim outside of stoner humor or Rick and Morty. But CN has a lack of shows that have staying power for large multi generational audiences. It feels like Adult Swim may gain that kind of staying power. With shows like My Adventures with Superman, Smiling Friends, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, Primal, Tuca and Berdie, and possibly other shows to come. All of those shows have brought variety to the network of Adult Swim. There have been variety on the channel before. Shows like The Boondocks, Morel Orel, Venture Bros and other shows have given the network a lot more shows that are mature in subject matter or tone.
It could be that they're reusing old cartoons since they pretty much got rid of most the animation studios and shows that were planned to have more seasons that all they have left is the older cartoons and hope to cash in on the nostalgia to keep any viewers around, on a side note i like the idea but how long will it take till everyone notices that the cash cow is actually beef.
6:17 that guy also fired Maxwell Atoms
I think introducing older shows to a new generation is a good thing. In the 80's when I was a kid, there was a local
tv channel that aired old Hanna-Barbera cartoons long before Boomerang was a thing and I loved that channel.
I was watching Where are you Scooby-Doo, Heckle & Jeckle, Laugh-A-Lympics, and The Flintstones
along with newer shows on other channels like The Smurfs, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Inspector Gadget, Garfield & Friends,
and The Real Ghostbusters. Plus I watched Rocky & Bullwinkle, The Jetsons, and the Bugs Bunny & Tweety show which my dad grew up with as well.
Remakes aren't a bad thing except for Disney movies. I watched a newer version of Mighty Mouse when I was a kid and the original
Mighty Mouse used to be shorts from the 40's until the early 60's. I grew up with the original DuckTales and hated the DuckTales remake
but I know a lot of people loved it and at least it introduced a new generation to some of the Disney Afternoon characters I grew up with like
Kit Cloudkicker from TaleSpin and Darkwing Duck in one episode. Personally when Cartoon Network was still new when I was in middle school
in 94 I preferred the older HB cartoons to the newer cartoons when they were introduced. Although there were a few I really liked on CN like Kids Next Door,
Duck Dodgers, and Mystery Incorporated.
Ya can blame CN all you want, but this is a push from WBD to nuke CN, because kid content doesn't sell. Gen Z and Alpha brain rot influencers do.
Instead of making the network match the times, Zaslav decided kill it off in favor of Adult Swim.
oh well, CN has been shit for years. might as well pull the plug now or keep ruining the legacy of CN
Checkard Past sounds like an Edgy Boomerang to me.
1:51 If Adult Swim scheduling has Toonami have a block with anime that is appropriate for younger audiences, they can have a pretty good Saturday block. Then they could lead that off with more adult oriented Anime in the late hours.
I say they should stop Toonami altogether, better to air American made programs than Japanese programs, not to mention animes unfortunate influence in modern American culture. American culture should focus on analog medias and american made programs rather than Japanese Programs, Japan doesn't air American cartoons the way we air anime. Checkered past has so much potential and Toonami would just be in the way of progress
@@KSBN-CCB hell no
@@KSBN-CCB horrible idea
Toonami starting at 7pm on saturdays would be fire, and it give it more variety of content to show.
@@majortom331 Toonami is for losers, especially cause its english dubbed
Miss the days when CN had different shows every 30mins to hour. But when I seen it mostly show like the same 3-4 shows. Figure it might not last much longer.
And if that's the case, it was good while it lasted.
Thing is cartoon network back when I was a kid looking back on it now where ment more for teens now they are trying to make it more for kids I'm 23 and there's only a few show i can say I enjoy and it's we bear bears apple and onion I did like amazing world of gumball what cn needs to do is go back to its roots instead of trying soooo hard to where it's comical try to reach out to evrey audience cn should be cartoons like gumball like super man and unicorn and to be fair I think this checkered past is a test to see how well it dose
So much mismanagement ever since Stu Snyder left.
All this started with him and his live action ideas
@Venom3254 Okay but it was only a small percentage of shows. It wasn't filling out the whole schedule
Checkered Past is a good idea but it shouldn't be ALL the channel relies on! I have no idea what the channel's management from 2014 onwards has been thinking, but doubling down on Teen Titans GO! despite the bad press it's been getting has CLEARLY been BACKFIRING! Calling it "Your new favorite show" at one point was just INSULTING! It was like if Kids WB, despite Da Boom Crew's low viewership, started giving it more timeslots, promoted it to death and called it "Your new favorite show" back when it was new! However, Kids WB were smart, saw that show's low ratings and axed it just 4 episodes in! Cartoon Network becoming more and more of a Teen Titans GO! channel is what REALLY hurt the channel, playing it "safe" is actually dangerous! It shows you're afraid to try ANYTHING new, you forget how the channel got to where it is today and I wouldn't be surprised if your channel SHUTS DOWN by the end of the decade! Disney are prospering by giving us new shows like Kiff and Hailey's On It, while Nick are messing up by rebooting FoP for the 50th time and tossing that new Planet Ruby show to the wayside, Rock, Paper, Scissors DOES show there's SOME traces of trying! Cartoon Network on the other hand: what do they have in the pipeline? BESIDES the new Gumball seasons and that new PPG series? Cartoon Network either needs to wake up and pick up new shows, AND FINALLY AXE TTG!, or possibly go off the air, taking Adult Swim with it, by the end of 2026!
REALLY weird to learn Cartoon Network aired some of the live action TMNT movies. Mostly because the franchise is owned by Nickelodeon.
I mean for the company it’s a kinda smart move because why spend money on animating new things when you have hours of beloved shows in your archives. You don’t have to worry about selling toys to make up the cost, etc.
However, to me it will most likely be bad for the channel in the long run because while they don’t have to worry about making money for old shows that are already done and animated, they still have to make money for the new shows they put out (My adventures with superman being one example) and, let me tell you a secret. Most adults don’t buy toys
CN to me died in 2016/7 when it’s lineup become all about Teen Titans Go and Gumball getting rebrands that are Nick Jr-ish parting always from branding that appeal to kids and teens and even young adults. Just compare Check it 1.0 to post-Check it 4.0 and everything else that came afterwards.
To me, CN died around 2010 or so after all of their shows from the 2000s were cancelled and replaced by boring and stupid new ones, with things getting progressively worse from there.
I disagree.
Sure, Checkered Past probably isn't going to save the ratings decline, and I'm not excited about an age of reboots, but there's a bit here that I can't get on board with too.
I think that the fact that Infinity Train and Unicorn Warriors Eternal are now considered "adult" content, along with Checkered Past airing on "adult" swim is actually kind of destroying the stigma about children's media, specifically animation. This applies to Adventure Time and Villainous as well.
I don't think it's inherently a bad thing to focus on adult animation either. So many shows in the past have been restricted and censored for ridiculous reasons. It'd be nice to have some creative freedom come out of these shows. Animation is more of an adult medium in Japan. In America, most of our adult animation is just Family Guy clones. That really needs to change.
Artistically speaking, I actually think this is a good sign. My only major problem with cartoon network/adult swim is that they have a bit of a sexism problem when it comes to rejecting female-oriented shows (that's probably why we haven't heard much from Invincible Girl, and why Unicorn Warriors Eternal and YOLO haven't been renewed yet).
I also strongly disagree with your praise towards Nickelodeon. Paramount has literally stated that they're not taking animation as seriously, and that they plan on making adaptations exclusively rather than original content. Not really a fan of their current lineup either, quality-wise. Disney's previous CEO also stated he doesn't take animation that seriously either.
At least Michael Ouweleen cares about the art, and has actually worked in that field before. I actually agree with that quote he made that you displayed. He also stated that he's going to try to make cartoon network more of an "animation network" instead of a "kids network" because that's what it was originally intended to be. Which is true.
To be honest, I would not at all be against Cartoon Network becoming aimed at an older demographic, so long as they still exclusively air cartoons and anime. I really don't like how Acme Night airs live action content either. I can sort of understand comic-book adaptations, but Wipeout and Harry Potter don't need to be on this channel. The Eric Andre Show should honestly be a Max-exclusive rather than an adult swim series.
Edit: Checkered Past actually DID turn out to be a smart move. The ratings of the network got better.
Benzie, this is a great summary of what’s currently going on with Cartoon Network. The channel isn’t connecting with kids these days, and WB-D isn’t investing much in it anymore.
I would love to know what the goals are for Checkered Past. If it does well, doesn’t it just take more hours away from CN?
I’ve long thought that the only reason Adult Swim doesn’t go 24/7 is a lack of long-running half-hour series (that they own). But presenting old CN series as part of Adult Swim for multiple hours a day might do the trick…
Back when Adult Swim had their online /streams/ content, I imagined they could use that to fill daytime airspace in a brand-appropriate (and probably cheap) way -- obviously that's gone now though. I think it just boils down to them not really having anything appropriate to air in the airtime, but investing into AS shows that clear standards and practices as appropriate for, say, noontime might just risk diluting the brand further.
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Let's call a spade a spade. We can not blame the past decade of Cartoon Network for there problems any more. It is easy, but the bigger problem is that kids they pushed hard to get just do not watch broadcast TV any more. They are the start of the streaming generation and have little reason to do so.
This a good block, but how long is it going to last? and on Saturdays they should have put unicorn warriors eternal or my adventures with superman instead of KOTH, I mean, it's too EARLY to broadcast that series and those other 2 series could have been a better option for 5pm to 7pm
People: We want old CN back
CN: Okay, we will air a block where we show reruns of old cartoons.
People: CN bad
People: we want cn city
If you live in the past, you can’t live in the present. And if you’re not thinking about the present, you can’t be thinking about the future, because you don’t have a future. At this rate, Cartoon Network is over! Whatever is upcoming for the channel, that might as well be the final batch.
Adult Swim needed a US Channel
You also need to consider adult swim new 2 tv channels ( kinda new). Adult Swim Mexico and Adult Swim South America. I really think Warner Discover is trying to get in the TVs of their real audience, nostalgic adults. If there is something mexicans and south americans were always asking to Pablo Zuccarino (warner's latinamerica general manager) in every interview was, can we get the "City Era" back? The already forgot about Tooncast, and Cartoon network doesn't seem to have too much attention either. And it's all related, kids today don't watch tv, or cartoons, they watch youtubers, streamers, youtube animations, funny videos, tiktok, gameplays. It's only natural they would focus on the 90s adults, they feel nostalgic and overwhelmed about how life is going on right now.
With a large enough audience it should have benefits for later use - potentially being aired on a new channel for future cartoons. I would consider this to be a testing ground to get use to how cartoons used to be aired back in the 90s and 2000s. I somewhat have a fear of it being canceled though out of all honesty.
I will forever be team Cartoon Network but im afraid the channel wont be around within the next 5 years or so. Most of us that Checkerd Past is catered too is the last of a generation who would come home from school and actually sit and watch tv. There was no streaming platforms, big social media booms, touch screen devices (besides the Nintendo DS) or anything of that nature. Cable TV was king back then.
Kids who was born in the late 90s and grew up in the early 2000s was the last of that "prehistoric" generation. The current generation are born with the technology that consist of smart phones, streaming platforms, and vast social media to scroll through. Cartoonito is geared to pre schoolers and young kids who may have parents (from our generation) who choose to keep things old fashioned. Most of us are in the beginning stages of adult hood.
The shows that we grew up with is either being aired on adult swim, streaming where we fan afford it as adults, or they are being renewed or rebooted in ways that will allow us to relate to. Look at icarly, and fiona and cake, those shows are tv 14 and are meants to be for the ones who grew up watching it. Same thing with the Samurai Jack final season.
I think Cartoon Network realizes that the kids who grew up during their prime years are grown. We were their prime audience. We were their market and they know that the kids and teens of today caters to a vast source of media. Weather thats youtube kids, 60 second tiktoks, anime, or Netflix
Remember Starwars the Clone wars true cartoonnetwork fans remember
Toonami fan here.
First off I absolutely understand why you have the mindset that cartoon network is dying and checked past being an adult swim block isint going to help matters however this mindset is VERY flawed.
1 As sad as it is cartoon network has been all but dead since its short lived live action block was created. Even to this day they mostly either air Teen Titans go which is just a very bad show and reruns of Gumball. Gumball is great don't get me wrong and kids at least a few years ago definitely liked go but that's mostly all the network has to offer sure they are half heartedly pushing the Tiny toons reboot and id be lying if I said other shows like Craig and Regular show never got aired but it's still uncommon. The hard fact is cartoon network simply doesn't care about live tv anymore and their refusal to pickup new shows or at least show older ones themselves is kinda the problem which leads into...
2 Adult swim is the ONLY reason these shows are airing as is. CN itself clearly don't care and in fact have out right insulted older creators like Craig McCracken and Maxwell Atoms among others meanwhile Adult Swim knows now is the perfect time to capitalise on people my age nostalgia honestly without checkerd Past and Impractical Jokers there really isn't any reason for me to watch live tv anymore and I'm sure many would agree. Plus it's not like these shows can't be watched by kids specially today I seriously doubt a parent who most likely grew up watching these shows is going to not allow them just because their "technically" on adult swim if anything because the block airs right after school or close to it's likely new kids are actually going to see the shows for the first time point is why does it really matter if CN specifically falls since adult swim is more than willing to air family content?
It’s with cable tv in general, no one watches cable anymore
Why do you people keep saying this lie that nobody watches cable anymore? If nobody watches cable anymore then how do cable stations get any ratings?
@@robertjohnson2916 The only reasons why most Cable stations are still around is because old people still use it and also the fact that people still watch sports on cable tv as well but that is also slowly declining. Most popular shows that are talked about now are only available through streaming or that the majority of people watch it on streaming next day (Max and Hulu does this). Most of CN now is just reruns and when they make a new show it either becomes a max original or dumped on adult swim.
I was watching another video that had a collection of all the bumps Checkered Past had (which are cool in their own right) and a lot of people in the comments were saying how soulless the whole thing was. After watching this video, I can see where they were coming from now.
"We have no ambition for new shows so let's just play off everyone's nostalgia again and again." Sure, it's nice they're airing the old stuff again, but if I REALLY wanted to see them again, what's to stop me from watching these shows off Hulu or even youtube? Hell, I think I even have a DVD somewhere with a few seasons of Ed Edd 'n Eddy on it!
Do you remember when Cartoon Network and Adult Swim were the best places for Cartoons?
I don't understand why people are concerned with Checkered Past being on Adult Swim. It's literally just them airing old cartoons for 2 hours before King of The Hill for mostly nostalgia. The fact that it's at 5pm, allows for parents to show their kids some of the classics while reliving their own childhood.
Just more examples of first world problems really
Well maybe this wouldn't be happening if Cartoon Network wasn't producing a steady stream of shit content. Also let's be real for a minute; just because these are older shows doesn't mean kids are gonna change the channel. If anything it might just highlight how bad a lot of the new content is now that it's airing sidebyside with four of Cartoon Network's greatest hits.
Cartoon network needs to have more O orignal CARTOONS ANIME
48 CARTOON SHOW TITLES IN 24 HOURS
¿¡What, what do you mean cartoon network has no future!?
nowadays kids come home from school and see adult swim😂😂but lets be honest adult swim is full of way more content and caters to the audience more
Checked past is dope. Regular show and gumball usually play before too.
Maybe cartoon network will be Cartoonito at 6am-5am and adult swim at 5pm-6am
Yo CN and Adult swim are doing the right thing bro, like chill.
No linear TV network has a future, TBH
They have better future if the companys remove streaming service because streaming service working on wifi
@@NOON2TV cord cuttings hpenning streaming service more expensive than cable
Cartoon Network died a long time ago.
It’s been dead for over a decade.
Well you can see there is more demand for [adult swim] than CN Because it’s just ultimately better
Maybe they've been doing all this for a revival and this is providing the budget for it to happen
5pm ? That's early asl.
Ikr and ridiculous!
Even nick@nite doesn’t come on that early!
i said this years ago adult swim needs it's own channel
I just consider the network dead by 2008 so you guys are a bit late to the party I think the stations been dead since Jim samples left and by the way checkered past is coming on at a good time it’s a Great Signal way into adult swim I still considered checkered past a Cartoon Network block so really adult swim is not swallowing a more airtime there just bring back fun Cartoon Network shows
Curse you David Zaslav!
Quick question: after see a max show on Netflix, how many years do you think a stream like max has to live?
Dude, you're overthinking this too much. Are you literally trying to tell me that new bumpers from past Cartoon Network shows bringing back the CN City Times in Adult Swim Style is not enough along with it!? 😠 you know just because Cartoon Network is failing throughout present time does not mean you should go harsh and cruel on the nostalgia. I mean what are you expecting from past Cartoon Network shows? Get an adult swim Revival just like Samurai Jack did? If so then I don't blame you but what if Cartoon Network Studios is just trying to show Adult Swim why they should give them an adult swim come back Revival? Did you ever think of that?😠
Regardless, Adult Swim is still the best Adult animation channel Out there and always will be Just keep your hopes up, I promise you
The studio building already permanently closed, so I think it's safe to say that Cartoon Network Studios will never create another original cartoon again, and once the remaining cartoons have ended, that'll be the end of Cartoon Network as a whole permanently. It will only exist as a brand, but eventually, that too will cease to exist, not just because cable is finally dying, but because of the lack of worker's rights in the studios. That's why Cartoon Network is becoming shorter and shorter. It's actively losing the competition, and they know this. They're finally going to lose funding, meaning that thousands will lose their income and will have to migrate elsewhere. All of this was because of Warner Bros merging with Discovery. This merger should never have happened, and the executives REGRET merging with Discovery, because I think Discovery is taking advantage of Warner Bros by shrinking their content just to save money for themselves, leaving nothing for the latter. All of this is a tax write off just so they would hoarde money from other people. Cartoon Network has entered a dark era, one that would be the end of them once and for all, all because of the merger. Things are looking extremely bleak, and there is no light and the end of this tunnel. There is no solution. There is no fixing things. We just need to accept that this is our reality. Besides, everything must come to an end eventually, even if it's a sad one.
I like nostalgia so I'm a sucker for this I'm sorry
I love the 90s and 2000s, so I too am a sucker for Checkered Past.
Let's also agree no own watches television anymore but streaming.
If the entertainment isn’t there, then all it is another ploy to go after the big stream and lose…
Isn’t that right max?!
If the entertainment isn’t there, then all it is another ploy to go after the big stream and lose…
Isn’t that right max?!
Cartoon Network Needs Sue Adult Swim
Cartoon Network been dead to me since 2011 honestly.
This just sucks now
This checkered past its gonna end in next months
Cartoons IS DEADDD
nove adult swim to own channel like they did with boomerang that went form block to channel
I blame Cartoon Network… they haven’t been good since 2012 and they have been an abomination
The real enemy is WB Discovery
You're over reacting. CN does have a future. Adult Swim is giving half of the money to CN.
Thank god that we don't have adult swim in my country
Listen I'm gonna say what everyone is thinking.
Cartoon Network fell of when they went from the checkerboard logo to the CN logo.
Die Adult Swim Die