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I live in Texas, now, and don't have a horse in that race (grew up in the Mid-West and remember the winter snows). Interesting results shovel vs blower (snow type/snow depth). Different tools for different tasks! I wasn't familiar with Ego brand, but they look interesting. I have Greenworks leaf blower and I can tell you it puts my old corded blower to shame. I did'nt want the noise/pollution and upkeep of a gas driven tool. I'm a big believer in battery based anything, now that the technology has matured (and continues to do so). Thanks, Nate!
Try shoveling with 2/3 of the width of the blower. I used to own a B&D lawn mower. It would bog down with a moist lawn. But cut pretty good with just 2/3 of the mower. My electric snow blower is the same. It struggles in the slushy wet snow. You gotta do what you gotta do to get the job done.
I have the 80v version of the snow shovel and it's honestly fun to use. It practically replaced my gas snow blower. I have trouble starting my gas snow blower and don't have a heated place to work on it to troubleshoot so just been putting it off until I finish the garage and been using the electric snow shovel meanwhile. Greenworks now has a full size snowblower too now, but not ready to drop that kind of coin. About $2,500. Comes with multiple batteries though.
I have not had to use it in wet snow yet, so I'll find out sooner or later I guess. I have a feeling it will do fine but I will probably have to take it slower.
I just ordered the 48V (2x24V) snow shovel, and judging from watching your video, the snow shovel seems like a better option for me. It'll fit nicely inside the porch for when we need to clear the snow from the path.
This is one of the BEST product reviews I've seen to date of a Greenworks snow blower and snow shovel in action! I've owned my home for almost a year now (as of this writing) and have been a satisfied Greenworks 40V tool user (16" mower, ~13" string trimmer, and the ~450 CFM leaf blower.) Well, the string trimmer isn't doing so great, but I digress. As my driveway and walkway are small I've been looking into upgrading to a cordless machine as my old corded Toro snow shovel's bearings aren't sounding healthy. Michigan winters (when we do get snow) is usually wet and heavy, so I'll look more closely at the power shovel instead of the blower.
Thanks for the video, was wondering about the powered snow shovels since i don't have a big walkway/driveway but they seem to do a pretty darn good job! Loved the 2 camera angles so we could see it from both perspectives !
I have a Sno Joe power shovel, and even though I was gifted a battery and charger, the shovel has been a godsend for the $130 I spent on it. Definitely worth it for smaller jobs.
Biggest problem with them is they only blow snow straight ahead. Really must work with the wind or you get covered, and they are hard on your back because all of the weight is on the end so when you lift it you really feel a pull in your back.
I recently purchased a 24V 11" snow shovel to supplement my 8HP snow blower. In many ways, it is very nice and easier to use than a regular shovel (I'm a retired guy). My only complaint would be that you can't direct the snow, so you have to be creative when shoveling, as it always blows forward (and sometimes right back at you if you are shoveling into the wind).
I have the 40V power shovel and I like it. I live in a townhouse with a single car driveway and help out with elderly neighbours who can't shovel. It gets into tight spaces and does the job. It's even portable because I put it in the back of my small SUV and go do my mom's driveway and sidewalk. Yes it won't do a big long driveway but if you have a smaller space it works well. A handy tip is get a second battery so you can keep on going and help out that neighbour.
Thanks for trying out the shovel and the water stick or snow. It’s exactly what I needed to know. The other reviews of the shovel just showed powdery snow.
I now have the power shovel that is on a cord. I had a gas one. Years ago. I am in the market for an electric or gas. I will go with gas. Thanks for doing the video.
I have not had any luck with a sing stage snowblower except to clean fluffy snow on a walk way. I have a 13hp 2 stage snow blower with serrated auger and it works great. Sometimes i have to use it to clear ice left by a battery operated snow blower. So my money is on gas for now.
Great video, Nate! 🎥 Didn't expect the 12-inch power shovel to outshine the snow blower on wet snow! Each has its own strengths. Thanks for the insights! ❄💪
I live in an upstairs apartment in NY. We don't have a garage or tool shed where we could store snow plows. So that little one looks like something I could store in our closet.
The comparisons between this 40 volt light duty snowblower to 10hp gas Ariens two stage machines is a little disingenuous. The snow Nate is describing would stall small gas powered blowers, too. I would be interested to see how the 80 volt versions would handle this snow. Perhaps the bigger battery would allow the machine to eat the snow without hitting the current limiter. There are bigger, more powerful battery powered snowblowers on the market that are better equipped to handle this situation. Nice review, Nate!
Curious if you think the bottom edge of either product will eventually wear out or if the engineers considered including a replaceable buffer strip? My optimistic side hopes they weren't too greedy with mean-time between failure variables.
They have a small metal wear strip on each side but the center "blade" is plastic. So for for home use they appear to hold up reasonably well, many years before wear out is a concern.
I would expect that if you were taking 12" swipes with the blower instead of full 20" swipes (ex, going across the face of the garage swipe by swipe, instead of plowing straight into the pile of snow), it would work about like the snow shovel, right? I mean, other than spinning a larger blade, at that point you're making it a 12" blower. The advantage would be all the weight is riding on the wheels, and you can still aim the plume instead of always just hurling "in front of me".
I would try clearing the snow by taking it in halves with the battery equipment. Even with my large gas powered snowblower, slush is not fun for it. I take in a couple of inches at a time and it keeps up. Easier for me to push too
just snowed a foot so im going to get that shovel now ... thanks for the video ... i have alot of steps on my walkways so i think the shovel definitely is best for me too
The small one is moving half as much snow, so the motor has less resistance. I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same motor. Battery or corded, the smaller the unit, the farther it will throw the snow, especially the corded ones because their current draw is limited. (They're made to plug into 15 amp circuits @ 110V, no more than about 1200 watts) Read the specs on battery powered. The motors can be rated for differently. A brand that uses 40V or 56V can have larger batteries to supply more current (amps) meaning higher watts. This allows manufacturers to use more powerful motors with larger units. Just remember, with 2 units with the same motor but different physical size, the smaller one will be more powerful and throw snow farther than the larger one.
Yes, i have used it on grass without an issue. Obviously if the ground is wet/soft and no frozen it may dig in but its light enough you can pick it up slightly off the ground if needed.
I mean that’s a 40v prosumer Home Depot special and that snow is working it at full capacity. That much snow and area you’d be way better off with the 82v 24” wide self propelled unit. 3 82v batteries you could finish that whole thing.
Snow shovels are made for the slush they have an ice melter at the top is that brick whatever they put on it I wish I had a battery operated like yours I just have an electric one
Interesting to see the difference w/same Voltage tools & battery handle the same snow(load). while the 12" shovel pushed thru, and the 20"blower sometimes overloads, wouldn't the blower handle the same snow(load) if you cut the path in 1/2 (roughly) ? (or I suppose went 1/2 the speed forward). In other words if the shovel was the same 20"width/auger as the bower, wouldn't it stall out in all the same spots.....??? Great tools tho ! Love the way they are evolving ! I have the 60v line here in Boston, and loving them !
I have same 20inch 40v it worked better if you lift up as you pushed it also give it 3 quarter mouth full.Still stall some times.Power shovel is impressive.Using 40v blower 4 yrs battery is good for25min.
I would think that the company could have put a multi directional thrower somewhere up by the handle rather than having to adjust the thrower bending down and reaching out.
Hi I have a dirt driveway I was trying to look for something both cheap and solid. I was wondering if either of these would make sense on a dirt driveway or to just hire someone to just plow the driveway?
I'd like to see this test again, but using one of the new 60V two-stage snowblowers and power shovel. I find single stage snowblowers just useless in snowfall over 4".
@@NaterTater Have you tried running waveforms bufferbloat test yet with and without the waveform antenna hooked up to TMHI? I'm curious if it would help with that at all and if you would make the drive out to Richmond Michigan I'd pay ya to help me setup the antenna on the old tv antenna tower 😁🙏
@@cheefadareafer i haven't ran waveforms buffer bloat but its just a "loaded ping" value which I do run with fast.com tests. In general the TMHI has lots of bufferbloat. You can look at the "loaded ping" column and see my results with and without external antenna here ua-cam.com/video/_5eERL3Rc40/v-deo.html antenna helps but a big help is switching to n41 band.
Not yet, but battery technology is changing really fast hope, we can get stronger battery powered snowblowers in the upcoming years. I have a gas and a corded electric snowblower 13A, so P= 13Ax110V, P= 1.3kW. Cheers
The blower is light for its size but the shovel is heavy based on the look of it. Also the weight distribution is way off. Bottom heavy, becomes a choir the constantly pick up.
I use to own an electric snow thrower. I decided to try out the Troybuilt 2410 gas snowblower and ill tell ya. What a difference. Just save up and buy a gas operated one. And take care of it. Make sure you dont leave old gas in it or you will be cleaning the carb out
Good comparison. I do agree that the AmpHr rating is likely more important (along with the size of the unit) than just the voltage. How many AH battery were you using in this video with the two units? Thanks.
I would cut in the middle to make way, then with the snowblower i would plow half or 2/3 of the snowblower clearance in order to put lesser stress on the machine and actually gets the job done faster that way without going back and forth on a higher snow level.
The single stage in all rights should walk thru that snow. If this was mine and I had no choice but to use it and I had a bad back and couldn’t shovel I’d take only 1/2 of the machine capacity at a time. This way you can walk faster and keep warmer. Where does Greenworks test these machines England?
In all rights single stage blowers (gas or electric) are known struggle in heavy wet snow. You need a 2-stage to handle 8-10 of wet snow. Good thing they make 2 stage battery blowers now! Testing it on the storm coming before Christmas.
A snow sled shovel is more effective than those two electronic devices combined. I have a electronic snow shovel, 24-in snow blower and snow sled shovel. I use the snow sled shovel most of the time it only pull out the 24-in snowblower in extreme blizzard conditions. I clear the porch, deck, etc with the electronic snow shovel.
I have a similar electric blower and it's pretty much only good for dry powdery snow. Get some wet snow and it's useless. I bought a "snow pusher" with wheels last year and actually prefer that over the gas / electric snow blowers we've had. If you live in a hilly more rural area that probably wouldn't be the answer though.
this is far from the most powerful line that Greenworks or others make. These atleast "run" unlike my clogged carb gas one... but they're not for everyone.
I completely disagree. We've had our Ego single stage snowblower for three winters and it's worked very well for us. I haven't used their larger two-stage blower, but I can only imagine it's even better. In Michigan, I'd recommend a 2-stage, but here in Central Ohio an Ego single stage is just fine for our 80 foot long, double wide driveway. And it runs every time and I don't have to change engine oil, fix a sticky carb, or even deal with gasoline.
@@cuisinartOH1 couldn’t have said it better myself. Ego Power+ for the win! 3rd season in Chicago winters for me and never had a problem. Best part is when you’re finished I don’t smell like exhaust fumes. The 10ah batteries last a super long time. I also use the power blower 650cfm for light snowfalls which clear off a 12 car driveway in about 15 minutes.
@@rickslife Same here. Dry, powdery snows are easy to remove with the leaf blower. We loved our original Ego lawn mower so much that we've replaced all of our outside equipment with Ego.
@@cuisinartOH1 I'm pro battery powered but if gas blowers are maintained correctly they outweigh the pros of battery powered as they're more powerful. Gas powered will clear a foot of snow especially wet snow.
We can’t get the battery for the power shovel to make contact and turn it on. We have had three now. And other people having issues. Zero support. What are we missing?
Support exists. Call the number on the documentation or look it up online. I am sure you made sure the battery was charged, its fully clicked in on the tool (and no debris in the slot), and you are engaging any safety interlocks. Support will walk you through this if you call them.
Thanks. The number on their info said they are closed for the holidays and hangs up! What holidays? lol. Zero support. I’m on my third one. And others commenting the same thing.
It’s been stored inside. It’s never used once. I’m on my third one. And there is another person who also posted they have the same issue, 11 hours ago. We are in Canada. So no holiday here. I had no idea.
I typically wait til the storm is over but yes I know many people with your logic and go out multiple times during a storm. In SE MI we rarely get "a big one" and most snowfalls are under 6in, maybe 1-2x a year would we get a foot or so. 1ft is my limit that I bring out the plow and plow it even if its still snowing.
So I am looking for a Snow Blower one that I can handle.. as a woman. I have two large driveways and would like to get the Blower into a 3' area behind the house. What do you think I can handle oh, yeah I'm an old lady but strong :) @@NaterTater
@Tiggy5-dv7xl the electric ones are nice since they are easy to start (just push a button) and typically lighter than gas ones. I just recently upgraded to an 80v greenworks blower. I think there are many options for you to pick from. Depends on budget and preference.
Support your local commercial dealer and get 48v and 82v products. Don’t waste money on the big box store consumer products, they sell all that lesser technology to company’s like Kobalt and Toro!
@@NaterTater do you think it could be used to clear snow piled up around fire hydrants? I sent you a video earlier but I think it got censored. video title is "Big Storm Clean Up With Udizzy1969"
Be advised all those of you who live in snow country and who are Lexus owners: your frozen carcass will be found in a snowy mountain pass just like Jack Nicholson in the garden maze at the Overlook hotel in the last scene of _The Shining_
Even with gas units with a heavy snow you have to push and pull back and push one stages a lot unlike two stages and that's why if you gave a long driveway two stages are popular even though they cost more and harder to transport...I had a 150' driveway and that push pull action with a single stage with heavy wet snow was a deal breaker with gas and corded single stages so I used a two stage with powered wheels and in my case chains which with turf tires are often needed with grades but less so with Ag style tires. Why they put turf style tires on snow throwers I don't know, I guess some get by with them and it's more profitable and the additional money they get from selling you chains later. It's like shearing a sheep then selling that sheep a sweater for winter... Sure if you have a short driveway most of the times single stage is fine but... but...
@@sam-wz8tu So you're saying that particular machine is better somehow? I've used many different machines over the years during many different Minnesota winters and I'll stick with what I said. But sure I've never tried that particular machine but I have my doubts that it's magically better...
@sam-wz8tu Why even bring up your machine to me, what does it have to do with my original comment about one versus two stage machines and to a lesser extent tires and chains? What does: Not my XYZ machine even mean? You just want to tell everyone you have a big two stage machine you are really happy with? Okay...that's essentially what I was saying, as a type. I didn't mention brand names anyway and don't care about Chevy versus Ford style arguments. What's your point and what was your point?
Nice video but if you could have went with the 80v model especially in the snow blower the 20 inch it will have more power to get through that wet snow and is much harder to stall it as I seen it in other videos and I got the 80v snow blower and shovel..just got them so I will be testing soon to see how they actually perform. 😊👍
Then he would be stuck with 2 battery platforms. I have both the power shovel.and the blower. They do quite well for a 40v system. Also the 80v system. Batteries are insanely expensive.
@@cameranmanner4701 very true if you have a 40v already might as well stick with it...the snow blower I got came with a 2.0 A battery and the snow shovel I got the bare tool only...but I got a 5.0 A battery for nearly half price and that was a good deal then...the snow blower works well and I remember hitting one spot that has some little ice chunks and it just throw it out and bounced of my neighbors house and I thought holy crap that flew quite far and was just hoping the neighbor wasn't going to come out and hit me over the head with something...hehe 😳...but so far all is good but I did not try the snow shovel yet...but like you said why have 2 platforms of 40v and 80v...but I do like the greenworks as it is not heavy like some other snow blowers out there. 🤗
@@NaterTater I just noticed all the green equipment And thank you for the tips. I was thinking on buying a power shower for an apartment building that I push snow for.
@@bowbender1 ah yeah I bought into greenworks 40V battery system for most of my yard tools. Just got a newer 80V chainsaw so will be migrating over to that soon for more tools.
What you are saying about power for the amount of work being done makes sense, but the motors could be the same and on the 12in it has less work so it is going to provide more power, not a battery limitation at all on the snowblower.
It's only a matter of power and whether it is two stage or one stage. An electeic if the same power as a gas unit will always be better and easier to maintain. It's just that it's still easier to find gas units with greater power. However, if the snow is too much or too heavy, you tilt the snow thrower up and take the snow down in layers, the power shovel applies what limited power it has, to a smaller volume and is easier to skim off the snow in layers instead of all at once.
@John Wang I like to get my driveway done in a timely manner. None of this messing around, doing it in layers, struggling to move forward, changing batteries, etc. There's no way I'm dealing with a couple feet of wet snow with electric.
These comments are hilarious. “Never buy electric” “gas is the way to go” t”his thing is a toy”. These two machines are mid to low end of the electric spectrum. My neighbour has a 2 stage Ego and I have the ego shovel. Those are a beast and will keep up with gas blowers no problem.
I sold my two stage gas blower after getting these since they fulfill my needs! I do have a bigger 80v 2 stage battery blower now though ua-cam.com/video/1vGfmwRLS-Y/v-deo.html But most of my driveway I plow ua-cam.com/video/1b2Ej0AG_FE/v-deo.html
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Thank you. I had no idea that electric snow blowers had progressed so much. Even more surprising is that the electric shovel is so capable.
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I live in Texas, now, and don't have a horse in that race (grew up in the Mid-West and remember the winter snows). Interesting results shovel vs blower (snow type/snow depth). Different tools for different tasks!
I wasn't familiar with Ego brand, but they look interesting. I have Greenworks leaf blower and I can tell you it puts my old corded blower to shame. I did'nt want the noise/pollution and upkeep of a gas driven tool. I'm a big believer in battery based anything, now that the technology has matured (and continues to do so).
Thanks, Nate!
Try shoveling with 2/3 of the width of the blower. I used to own a B&D lawn mower. It would bog down with a moist lawn. But cut pretty good with just 2/3 of the mower. My electric snow blower is the same. It struggles in the slushy wet snow. You gotta do what you gotta do to get the job done.
I have the 80v version of the snow shovel and it's honestly fun to use. It practically replaced my gas snow blower. I have trouble starting my gas snow blower and don't have a heated place to work on it to troubleshoot so just been putting it off until I finish the garage and been using the electric snow shovel meanwhile. Greenworks now has a full size snowblower too now, but not ready to drop that kind of coin. About $2,500. Comes with multiple batteries though.
Agreed. And I just got an 80v 24in Power Smart snowblower. Waiting for the snow. ua-cam.com/video/1vGfmwRLS-Y/v-deo.html
How does it do with wet snow?
I have not had to use it in wet snow yet, so I'll find out sooner or later I guess. I have a feeling it will do fine but I will probably have to take it slower.
I just ordered the 48V (2x24V) snow shovel, and judging from watching your video, the snow shovel seems like a better option for me. It'll fit nicely inside the porch for when we need to clear the snow from the path.
@@666Kitteh good!
This is one of the BEST product reviews I've seen to date of a Greenworks snow blower and snow shovel in action! I've owned my home for almost a year now (as of this writing) and have been a satisfied Greenworks 40V tool user (16" mower, ~13" string trimmer, and the ~450 CFM leaf blower.) Well, the string trimmer isn't doing so great, but I digress. As my driveway and walkway are small I've been looking into upgrading to a cordless machine as my old corded Toro snow shovel's bearings aren't sounding healthy. Michigan winters (when we do get snow) is usually wet and heavy, so I'll look more closely at the power shovel instead of the blower.
Thanks! Glad you liked it and that it helped.
The shovel tool looks awesome for side to side clearing, not so much for sidewalks.
Thanks for the video, was wondering about the powered snow shovels since i don't have a big walkway/driveway but they seem to do a pretty darn good job! Loved the 2 camera angles so we could see it from both perspectives !
I have a Sno Joe power shovel, and even though I was gifted a battery and charger, the shovel has been a godsend for the $130 I spent on it. Definitely worth it for smaller jobs.
hate then. snow blows back in my face
Biggest problem with them is they only blow snow straight ahead. Really must work with the wind or you get covered, and they are hard on your back because all of the weight is on the end so when you lift it you really feel a pull in your back.
Thanks for the great video! I'm going to stick with my gas Honda HS621, it's 30 yrs old, starts with the first pull, dependable, reliable!
my toro from the 80s is goin strong as well. starts easy
Loving the power shovel!!!
It upholds it's name!
I recently purchased a 24V 11" snow shovel to supplement my 8HP snow blower. In many ways, it is very nice and easier to use than a regular shovel (I'm a retired guy). My only complaint would be that you can't direct the snow, so you have to be creative when shoveling, as it always blows forward (and sometimes right back at you if you are shoveling into the wind).
Yea the direction is my biggest concern. My neighbors driveways are very near so I don't want to send them snow nor send it on the street.
I have the 40V power shovel and I like it. I live in a townhouse with a single car driveway and help out with elderly neighbours who can't shovel. It gets into tight spaces and does the job. It's even portable because I put it in the back of my small SUV and go do my mom's driveway and sidewalk. Yes it won't do a big long driveway but if you have a smaller space it works well. A handy tip is get a second battery so you can keep on going and help out that neighbour.
i agree!
This is exactly why I won’t switch away from my gas snow blower
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Thanks for trying out the shovel and the water stick or snow. It’s exactly what I needed to know. The other reviews of the shovel just showed powdery snow.
Glad it helped!
I now have the power shovel that is on a cord. I had a gas one. Years ago. I am in the market for an electric or gas. I will go with gas. Thanks for doing the video.
Thanks for your video. It confirms to me snowblower are kind of a waste of time. I could have done this by manual snow plow shovel in minutes.
Wow this was a really well filmed review video, thanks so much Tater!
Glad you liked it!
I have not had any luck with a sing stage snowblower except to clean fluffy snow on a walk way. I have a 13hp 2 stage snow blower with serrated auger and it works great. Sometimes i have to use it to clear ice left by a battery operated snow blower.
So my money is on gas for now.
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i bought the shovel.I have small driveway so its perfect.You made my decision easy.Thanks for the help
I think the snow "shovel" states on packaging that is for 6 inches of snow max. So if you're trying to remove more than that, go with the gas blower.
They make 2 stage blowers as well. Cordless I mean
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Great video, Nate! 🎥 Didn't expect the 12-inch power shovel to outshine the snow blower on wet snow! Each has its own strengths. Thanks for the insights! ❄💪
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
I live in an upstairs apartment in NY. We don't have a garage or tool shed where we could store snow plows. So that little one looks like something I could store in our closet.
Battery powered outdoor equipment is still not cutting it in terms of power, but we are progressing.
The comparisons between this 40 volt light duty snowblower to 10hp gas Ariens two stage machines is a little disingenuous. The snow Nate is describing would stall small gas powered blowers, too.
I would be interested to see how the 80 volt versions would handle this snow. Perhaps the bigger battery would allow the machine to eat the snow without hitting the current limiter. There are bigger, more powerful battery powered snowblowers on the market that are better equipped to handle this situation.
Nice review, Nate!
Well said!
My ariens would eat that...
Curious if you think the bottom edge of either product will eventually wear out or if the engineers considered including a replaceable buffer strip? My optimistic side hopes they weren't too greedy with mean-time between failure variables.
They have a small metal wear strip on each side but the center "blade" is plastic. So for for home use they appear to hold up reasonably well, many years before wear out is a concern.
I would expect that if you were taking 12" swipes with the blower instead of full 20" swipes (ex, going across the face of the garage swipe by swipe, instead of plowing straight into the pile of snow), it would work about like the snow shovel, right? I mean, other than spinning a larger blade, at that point you're making it a 12" blower. The advantage would be all the weight is riding on the wheels, and you can still aim the plume instead of always just hurling "in front of me".
So satisfying to watch that snow shovel
I would try clearing the snow by taking it in halves with the battery equipment. Even with my large gas powered snowblower, slush is not fun for it. I take in a couple of inches at a time and it keeps up. Easier for me to push too
just snowed a foot so im going to get that shovel now ... thanks for the video ... i have alot of steps on my walkways so i think the shovel definitely is best for me too
Good luck!
The small one is moving half as much snow, so the motor has less resistance. I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same motor. Battery or corded, the smaller the unit, the farther it will throw the snow, especially the corded ones because their current draw is limited. (They're made to plug into 15 amp circuits @ 110V, no more than about 1200 watts)
Read the specs on battery powered. The motors can be rated for differently. A brand that uses 40V or 56V can have larger batteries to supply more current (amps) meaning higher watts. This allows manufacturers to use more powerful motors with larger units. Just remember, with 2 units with the same motor but different physical size, the smaller one will be more powerful and throw snow farther than the larger one.
The hand held snowblower would be good for taking feathers off chickens
I live in alaska and I have one and loving it too way better than gas powered one can move any direction
Awesome!
Can this snow shovel be used say in a backyard on grass in order to clear snow without damaging the grass?
Yes, i have used it on grass without an issue. Obviously if the ground is wet/soft and no frozen it may dig in but its light enough you can pick it up slightly off the ground if needed.
@@NaterTater Thank you❗
I mean that’s a 40v prosumer Home Depot special and that snow is working it at full capacity. That much snow and area you’d be way better off with the 82v 24” wide self propelled unit. 3 82v batteries you could finish that whole thing.
This vid was super helpful! Thank you for sharing
👍🙂
Snow shovels are made for the slush they have an ice melter at the top is that brick whatever they put on it I wish I had a battery operated like yours I just have an electric one
Interesting to see the difference w/same Voltage tools & battery handle the same snow(load). while the 12" shovel pushed thru, and the 20"blower sometimes overloads, wouldn't the blower handle the same snow(load) if you cut the path in 1/2 (roughly) ? (or I suppose went 1/2 the speed forward). In other words if the shovel was the same 20"width/auger as the bower, wouldn't it stall out in all the same spots.....??? Great tools tho ! Love the way they are evolving ! I have the 60v line here in Boston, and loving them !
Yes you are correct, i could go slower or 1/2 the path with the blower to avoid overload.
For the compacted snow from the cars, Was the snow shovel scrapping down to the driveway?
Not without a lot of manual effort. And to be fair my bobcat with 8ft metal plow doesnt either once its compacted and frozen solid.
damn i saw these online and thought these had to be a joke. Thats really impressive!
The power shovel is good for small driveways.
The CORDED never shut off on me - just did about 8 inches of heavy wet snow with the 13 amp corded Greenworks - way better.
Even the full size ones have a hard time in wet or packed snow. I like the new big electric ones.
Nah ua-cam.com/video/cmCgw1W-JYI/v-deo.html
Thanks for the informative info. Appreciate your input.
You bet!
Simple and helpful comparison.
Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
I have same 20inch 40v it worked better if you lift up as you pushed it also give it 3 quarter mouth full.Still stall some times.Power shovel is impressive.Using 40v blower 4 yrs battery is good for25min.
Hi, any thoughts on whether the 22" 80V version of the snowblower would cut through the wet snow better?
I am sure the 80v ones are more powerful. I am slowly moving to the 80v tools, I have their 80v chainsaw now.
I would think that the company could have put a multi directional thrower somewhere up by the handle rather than having to adjust the thrower bending down and reaching out.
Hi I have a dirt driveway I was trying to look for something both cheap and solid. I was wondering if either of these would make sense on a dirt driveway or to just hire someone to just plow the driveway?
I'd like to see this test again, but using one of the new 60V two-stage snowblowers and power shovel. I find single stage snowblowers just useless in snowfall over 4".
How about an 80V 2 stage? ua-cam.com/video/1vGfmwRLS-Y/v-deo.html
Great honest video, ya aint enough poop for my needs also if during a power outage no juice for recharge, nope gas only for me....
Nothing beats a gas blower.
How about a diesel/hydraulic powered one on the front of a bobcat?
@@NaterTater now you're talkin my language 👍
@@NaterTater Have you tried running waveforms bufferbloat test yet with and without the waveform antenna hooked up to TMHI? I'm curious if it would help with that at all and if you would make the drive out to Richmond Michigan I'd pay ya to help me setup the antenna on the old tv antenna tower 😁🙏
@@cheefadareafer i haven't ran waveforms buffer bloat but its just a "loaded ping" value which I do run with fast.com tests. In general the TMHI has lots of bufferbloat. You can look at the "loaded ping" column and see my results with and without external antenna here ua-cam.com/video/_5eERL3Rc40/v-deo.html antenna helps but a big help is switching to n41 band.
Not yet, but battery technology is changing really fast hope, we can get stronger battery powered snowblowers in the upcoming years. I have a gas and a corded electric snowblower 13A, so P= 13Ax110V, P= 1.3kW. Cheers
the only thing these electric blowers have going for them is light weight good vid
The blower is light for its size but the shovel is heavy based on the look of it. Also the weight distribution is way off. Bottom heavy, becomes a choir the constantly pick up.
I use to own an electric snow thrower. I decided to try out the Troybuilt 2410 gas snowblower and ill tell ya. What a difference. Just save up and buy a gas operated one. And take care of it. Make sure you dont leave old gas in it or you will be cleaning the carb out
Good comparison. I do agree that the AmpHr rating is likely more important (along with the size of the unit) than just the voltage. How many AH battery were you using in this video with the two units? Thanks.
If I recall correctly both were 2Ah batteries.
I would cut in the middle to make way, then with the snowblower i would plow half or 2/3 of the snowblower clearance in order to put lesser stress on the machine and actually gets the job done faster that way without going back and forth on a higher snow level.
Can you direct the path of the blowing snow with the shovel as you can with the snow blower?
No
The single stage in all rights should walk thru that snow. If this was mine and I had no choice but to use it and I had a bad back and couldn’t shovel I’d take only 1/2 of the machine capacity at a time. This way you can walk faster and keep warmer. Where does Greenworks test these machines England?
In all rights single stage blowers (gas or electric) are known struggle in heavy wet snow. You need a 2-stage to handle 8-10 of wet snow. Good thing they make 2 stage battery blowers now! Testing it on the storm coming before Christmas.
A snow sled shovel is more effective than those two electronic devices combined.
I have a electronic snow shovel, 24-in snow blower and snow sled shovel. I use the snow sled shovel most of the time it only pull out the 24-in snowblower in extreme blizzard conditions.
I clear the porch, deck, etc with the electronic snow shovel.
Thanks for sharing. I've heard of the snow sleds but haven't used them.
I have a similar electric blower and it's pretty much only good for dry powdery snow. Get some wet snow and it's useless. I bought a "snow pusher" with wheels last year and actually prefer that over the gas / electric snow blowers we've had. If you live in a hilly more rural area that probably wouldn't be the answer though.
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What’s the odds of a Milwaukee shovel? Thanks
Battery powered snow blowers need about another decade before they can compete with gas.
this is far from the most powerful line that Greenworks or others make. These atleast "run" unlike my clogged carb gas one... but they're not for everyone.
I completely disagree. We've had our Ego single stage snowblower for three winters and it's worked very well for us. I haven't used their larger two-stage blower, but I can only imagine it's even better. In Michigan, I'd recommend a 2-stage, but here in Central Ohio an Ego single stage is just fine for our 80 foot long, double wide driveway. And it runs every time and I don't have to change engine oil, fix a sticky carb, or even deal with gasoline.
@@cuisinartOH1 couldn’t have said it better myself. Ego Power+ for the win! 3rd season in Chicago winters for me and never had a problem. Best part is when you’re finished I don’t smell like exhaust fumes. The 10ah batteries last a super long time. I also use the power blower 650cfm for light snowfalls which clear off a 12 car driveway in about 15 minutes.
@@rickslife Same here. Dry, powdery snows are easy to remove with the leaf blower. We loved our original Ego lawn mower so much that we've replaced all of our outside equipment with Ego.
@@cuisinartOH1 I'm pro battery powered but if gas blowers are maintained correctly they outweigh the pros of battery powered as they're more powerful.
Gas powered will clear a foot of snow especially wet snow.
Hey there! I'm looking at a similar electric shovel and it's 80v. Can I use a 40v on it as well?
No, you'll have to use the same voltage, brand and style battery that came with it.
@@NaterTater ok, I don't have the biggest lawn so I hope the 5.0ah is enough
I ordered the shovel but it has a cord will be amazing !!
Nice
I don’t know if battery power is the same my shaver, but if I leave, my shaver onto long is slowly drains power
1:29Yes, of course. That's to let us all on youtube know that you definitely don't read the operating instructions. 😆 Pretty genius if you ask me.
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We can’t get the battery for the power shovel to make contact and turn it on. We have had three now. And other people having issues. Zero support. What are we missing?
Support exists. Call the number on the documentation or look it up online. I am sure you made sure the battery was charged, its fully clicked in on the tool (and no debris in the slot), and you are engaging any safety interlocks. Support will walk you through this if you call them.
Thanks. The number on their info said they are closed for the holidays and hangs up! What holidays? lol. Zero support. I’m on my third one. And others commenting the same thing.
@bobbi1977 its a holiday for me. Martin Luther King Jr day.
@@bobbi1977 also make sure the battery is room temp. Dont store them outside.
It’s been stored inside. It’s never used once. I’m on my third one. And there is another person who also posted they have the same issue, 11 hours ago.
We are in Canada. So no holiday here. I had no idea.
It’s the torque load difference between the two machines 20” vs 12”…. Nice video,
Yes, you are right
Can you control the aim of the handheld power shovel?
Yes, based on how you hold the shovel
Get a red wagon with 4 propane tanks and a 10 foot hose with a blow torch on the end and melt the snow. Use the snow blower against the house thought.
What can you recommend for me I need something to put in my car can’t shovel anymore please help 😮
The shovel blower.
Gas2 stage for me ! Keep up with simple maint runs second pull every time got it used 10 years
This should be fine for my front walk since I can’t get to it with the regular snowblower.
Yes, and better than shoveling!
I'll stick with the snow shovel. It's pretty darn reliable.
That thing is a beast
I’ll stick with my gas powered blower and get it done easier
not to mention faster
Это какое-то будущее, лопата с моторчиком. Спасибо за обзор.
Технологии всегда совершенствуются. Спасибо за просмотр.
That shovel works better than the big brother 🤣
Wish you could direct the snow with the snow shovel.
How much is the shovel and where can I get it from please help
Amazon We got one for about $129. Plus your tax and I think shipping.
Thank you so much
You can also order from Greenworks directly. They often have 25% off sales, and always offer free shipping.
Well don't you think that when it first starts snowing and gets around 2 3 inches you would then use the blower ? Not when it is like 3'
I typically wait til the storm is over but yes I know many people with your logic and go out multiple times during a storm. In SE MI we rarely get "a big one" and most snowfalls are under 6in, maybe 1-2x a year would we get a foot or so. 1ft is my limit that I bring out the plow and plow it even if its still snowing.
So I am looking for a Snow Blower one that I can handle.. as a woman. I have two large driveways and would like to get the Blower into a 3' area behind the house. What do you think I can handle oh, yeah I'm an old lady but strong :) @@NaterTater
@Tiggy5-dv7xl the electric ones are nice since they are easy to start (just push a button) and typically lighter than gas ones. I just recently upgraded to an 80v greenworks blower. I think there are many options for you to pick from. Depends on budget and preference.
When we gonna see the diesel snow blower?
Diesel snow plow: ua-cam.com/video/1b2Ej0AG_FE/v-deo.html
@@NaterTater awesome setup
So what one do you prefer?
Depends on needs. Porbably power shovel for my need
@@NaterTater honestly I like the power of the shovel that’s for sure. But the blower covers more ground.
Support your local commercial dealer and get 48v and 82v products. Don’t waste money on the big box store consumer products, they sell all that lesser technology to company’s like Kobalt and Toro!
do you still have that electric snow shovel?
Sure do
@@NaterTater do you think it could be used to clear snow piled up around fire hydrants? I sent you a video earlier but I think it got censored. video title is "Big Storm Clean Up With Udizzy1969"
Be advised all those of you who live in snow country and who are Lexus owners: your frozen carcass will be found in a snowy mountain pass just like Jack Nicholson in the garden maze at the Overlook hotel in the last scene of _The Shining_
Even with gas units with a heavy snow you have to push and pull back and push one stages a lot unlike two stages and that's why if you gave a long driveway two stages are popular even though they cost more and harder to transport...I had a 150' driveway and that push pull action with a single stage with heavy wet snow was a deal breaker with gas and corded single stages so I used a two stage with powered wheels and in my case chains which with turf tires are often needed with grades but less so with Ag style tires.
Why they put turf style tires on snow throwers I don't know, I guess some get by with them and it's more profitable and the additional money they get from selling you chains later.
It's like shearing a sheep then selling that sheep a sweater for winter...
Sure if you have a short driveway most of the times single stage is fine but...
but...
@@sam-wz8tu So you're saying that particular machine is better somehow?
I've used many different machines over the years during many different Minnesota winters and I'll stick with what I said.
But sure I've never tried that particular machine but I have my doubts that it's magically better...
@sam-wz8tu Why even bring up your machine to me, what does it have to do with my original comment about one versus two stage machines and to a lesser extent tires and chains?
What does:
Not my XYZ machine
even mean?
You just want to tell everyone you have a big two stage machine you are really happy with?
Okay...that's essentially what I was saying, as a type.
I didn't mention brand names anyway and don't care about Chevy versus Ford style arguments.
What's your point and what was your point?
The worst part is it's all plastic.
My snow blower is twice the size and metal. Yeah its gas. But it's going to break or struggle.
You might enjoy the 2 stage metal one ua-cam.com/video/1vGfmwRLS-Y/v-deo.html
smaller 1 isnt more powerful its moving less snow, and battery isnt electric right?
I mention that the power shovel has less width and the same available power. Batteries store electricity.
Nice video but if you could have went with the 80v model especially in the snow blower the 20 inch it will have more power to get through that wet snow and is much harder to stall it as I seen it in other videos and I got the 80v snow blower and shovel..just got them so I will be testing soon to see how they actually perform. 😊👍
Then he would be stuck with 2 battery platforms. I have both the power shovel.and the blower. They do quite well for a 40v system. Also the 80v system. Batteries are insanely expensive.
@@cameranmanner4701 very true if you have a 40v already might as well stick with it...the snow blower I got came with a 2.0 A battery and the snow shovel I got the bare tool only...but I got a 5.0 A battery for nearly half price and that was a good deal then...the snow blower works well and I remember hitting one spot that has some little ice chunks and it just throw it out and bounced of my neighbors house and I thought holy crap that flew quite far and was just hoping the neighbor wasn't going to come out and hit me over the head with something...hehe 😳...but so far all is good but I did not try the snow shovel yet...but like you said why have 2 platforms of 40v and 80v...but I do like the greenworks as it is not heavy like some other snow blowers out there. 🤗
Right away I see you kept your battery warm and didn't leave it outside.
Correct! Important for best performance. 👍
@@NaterTater Better yet never charge a lithium battery when cold/below freezing (just in case your charger or battery doesn't have low temp shut-off)
Lots of green on that shed
I'm not following
@@NaterTater I just noticed all the green equipment
And thank you for the tips. I was thinking on buying a power shower for an apartment building that I push snow for.
@@bowbender1 ah yeah I bought into greenworks 40V battery system for most of my yard tools. Just got a newer 80V chainsaw so will be migrating over to that soon for more tools.
What you are saying about power for the amount of work being done makes sense, but the motors could be the same and on the 12in it has less work so it is going to provide more power, not a battery limitation at all on the snowblower.
I'm not sure what you're saying. The battery is a limitation on the blowers.
I will choose gas powered over battery powered any day . With gas powered you don’t have to worry about pushing it .
Check out this electric one that you dont have to push! ua-cam.com/video/1vGfmwRLS-Y/v-deo.html
The not “pushing” is based on the features of the blowers. Not all gas blowers are self propelled
It's only a matter of power and whether it is two stage or one stage. An electeic if the same power as a gas unit will always be better and easier to maintain. It's just that it's still easier to find gas units with greater power. However, if the snow is too much or too heavy, you tilt the snow thrower up and take the snow down in layers, the power shovel applies what limited power it has, to a smaller volume and is easier to skim off the snow in layers instead of all at once.
Gas just has more @$$ electric is useless it it's raining
@John Wang I like to get my driveway done in a timely manner. None of this messing around, doing it in layers, struggling to move forward, changing batteries, etc. There's no way I'm dealing with a couple feet of wet snow with electric.
That battery won't last long on that job. I get similar snow and don't feel battery technology is cut out for tougher jobs like this
It's one thing to feel and another to own and test.
I see you like green works.
These comments are hilarious. “Never buy electric” “gas is the way to go” t”his thing is a toy”. These two machines are mid to low end of the electric spectrum. My neighbour has a 2 stage Ego and I have the ego shovel. Those are a beast and will keep up with gas blowers no problem.
Buddy you should’ve got a gas snow blower instead of a battery snow blower
I sold my two stage gas blower after getting these since they fulfill my needs! I do have a bigger 80v 2 stage battery blower now though ua-cam.com/video/1vGfmwRLS-Y/v-deo.html But most of my driveway I plow ua-cam.com/video/1b2Ej0AG_FE/v-deo.html
Holy s#@% you have a lot of toys in that shed!
You should see the barns
@@NaterTater You men and your gadgets! 😄
Merci mec👍