It seems like Apple is approaching that bit in Hitchhikers Guide where somebody is listening to music, but the system is so advanced and sensitive that he has to sit completely still or else it'll skip to the next song.
the great thing about if its being controlled by blinking is that there are going to be long periods of time where you wont want to usewhatever function blinking does, so you'll just have to stare for long periods without blinking
That's exactly why blinking will never be a control option for AR or VR, it's not easy to control. Clicking is done by a gesture called air tapping, which is touch your index finger and thumb together. That's used for clicking at a distance. When close, just touch the holograms with your fingers to push buttons.
It's not gonna be controlled by blinking, It's done via your hands by pinching much like the quest 2 already can as well. No where during the keynote was it mentioned that blinking was a going to be a control input.
Its okay, wait for the second version to come out next year that includes Apple's patented iMoist technology that spritzes your eyes with a non-refillable liquid every 45 seconds that it detects you haven't blinked. You'll need to buy an entirely new headset once it runs out though.
I feel like the fact that it’s not see-through and just displays a live feed of your eyes on the front of it is somehow *worse* than if it could show everyone what porn you’re looking at
My job is working in AR and VR, so I've been keeping and eye on this one to compare it to current headsets. As others have said, this IS NOT a VR headset, it's an AR headset with a VR mode, that's a huge difference. There's a nob at the top thats adjustable and lets less light inside the headset until all you can see are the models. This was a big feature in one of the big players in AR headsets, Magic Leap 2. They call it selective dimming. The Crossfire AR glasses also have an impressive VR mode. As for the price, it's an AR headset, which needs more tech than VR headsets (high quality cameras to capture the area, hands, and eyes, VR does not need that). Apples competition is the Microsoft Hololens 2, which is 4 years old and $3500, and the Magic Leap 2, almost 1 year old and $3300. So Apples price is actually pretty good since it's the newest and likely best quality headset on the market. But Apple is stupid to try and market this to consumers. My job is in factory production, that's where this will be helpful, the medical industry also adopted AR probably more than any other field. There's no way the average consumer will get this, which means video games will NEVER happen, I guarantee it. To clear up some stuff from the podcast. Blinking does nothing, even Apple isn't stupid enough to make blink controls. Clicks are done by tapping your index finger and thumb together. The visor is not see through, possibly to make full VR possible (fake VR on AR headsets still let a little light through), so your eyes are being projected on the front. FaceTime actually creates a model of your face to display to others, which looks weird. And sure VR porn is possible, when in VR mode it will not show your eyes, eyes are only displayed in AR when you can see the real world. Also VR porn kinda sucks. After watching the presentation live, my take away was this headset doesn't do anything that current headsets can't already do, but it will possibly do everything the best. So the best quality models, best eye and spatial tracking, but that's mainly because it's newer technology compared to it's competitors. And if Apple continues trying to advertise to the public, it will be dead on arrival. Microsoft tried that with the Hololens and it failed. Once they switched their approach to target industries, it did very well and is the main headset for AR, even 4 years later.
We've got megacorps seizing power from the government, but no cybernetic limbs, no superhuman augmentations, no neon, none of the fashion, but we've got neverending dread
You can criticise nearly everything about this headset but the power isn't up for debate, it's got the full M2 chips in there. That thing is easily the best VR/XR/AR hardware on the market, which makes it all the more disappointing just how little can be done with it.
@@existentialselkath1264 That's all fine and dandy but I'm so sick of standalone VR hardware starting to become the norm, because that just means that there will be more exclusivities, and we'll be held back by the power of the headset that can go obsolete, and not the power of our rigs for a PC headset.
@@thundercloud1230 I completely agree. As far as apple is concerned though, they don't need standalone hardware to keep it exclusive to their OS. It's also got almost the same performance as their top spec computers so within Apples ecosystem there's no reason not to be standalone.
Or, sufficiently powerful, but weighed down by software cinderblocks of DRM and platform control. Apple dislikes you having the ability to change your fonts, I doubt they're going to be very forgiving in terms of running full software. Games might run like hot garbage not because of a lack of processing power, but because every single game function has to file a metaphorical G-37D form before it can have permission to render a single line of pixels, lest you run some software or watch some media without paying money for it.
@@existentialselkath1264 It's Apple. It is going to be Underpowered. Their entire business model for the past 2 decades has been wildly overcharging for older (thus cheaper) tech while promoting themselves as a luxury brand. If it is "top of the line" at the moment, give it 6 months. If it doesn't flop, someone will come out with a headset that can do everything this thing can and more for half the price.
This is the first I’ve heard of this VR headset projecting a video of your eyes on the front screen, and all I can think of is that one silly pair of Brütalmoose blindfold where he put a giant unsettling picture of his eyes on the front “so he didn’t make anybody uncomfortable”. All I’m saying is that Apple owes Ian Brütalfoods a check.
It's hilarious that a device with bad battery life wastes power sending a live feed of your eyes to be projected on the front of the goggles for no purpose other than to falsely make you look less antisocial when you're using it in the presence of other people.
My favorite part was that Apple showed someone watching Avatar in 3D on it. That is what they said is a a good use case for buying it. Except that The Avatar movie is 3 hours long and you wouldn't be able to finish watching it.
Apple making a sleek discreet looking whisper-quiet autoblow that can conceal under your pants, to make the ultimate give-up machine for the failsons of rich parents. This will actively make the world a better place.
I think Woolie was spot on in the very beginning about Apple just dropping it and the market will follow. Some rappers and influencers will have have this and then it becomes a goal.
I'm never gonna let go that the SEGA Nomad has a better battery life on six AA batteries Edit for clarification: The SEGA Nomad used to be my old benchmark of horrendous battery life after it constantly powered down in the middle of games whenever the AC adapter wasn't in use. The Nomad was new at that point and my dad got it for us without the foreknowledge of the cost of its portability.
Somehow the Nomad still had better battery life than the Game Gear, but I think that was due to a horrendous design flaw with its speakers. I once used a Game Gear with batteries where you could check how much juice they had left in them and when it ran out, it only completely drained one battery while leaving the rest almost untouched.
Holy shit, another person who owned a Nomad! My parents got one for me for the same reason, some clerk at our local game store talked them into it. I just bought a Game Gear car adapter for mine, and otherwise I never went anywhere with it without my AC adapter and the cable to hook it up to the TV.
@@BHSDesk I wasn't aware of there being a cable to hook it up to a TV (we also had a Genesis, so I suppose the parent move was not having to buy extra games at the same time). Definitely took the AC adapter whenever I brought it to my cousin's place though. Going through so many batteries felt expensive even to child me, since I recognized the remote only using one or two and lasting forever on them. (Edited for capitalization)
Believe it or not, Pat’s comparison to PlayStation actually gets _nowhere even close_ to how absurd Apple’s pricing is. For about $3,500, you can get: A) A new PS5 (bundled with a controller and a game) - $560 B) PS VR2 bundle (includes VR headset, 2 VR controllers, stereo headphones, and a game) - $600 C) 3 more new DualSense controllers with funky patterns - $225 D) _5 years_ of PlayStation Plus Premium (online play and various other extras) - $600 E) 21 new full-price games, standard or VR (assuming a pessimistic pricing of $70 each) - $1,470 That brings us to a grand total of $3,455, leaving us $45 under Apple’s price for their _base model_ VR headset. I know they’re trying to sell it as a productivity tool, but especially at this price there is no way this product isn’t Dead On Arrival.
It's not for you or me. It's the iPhone 1. Early adopters only. And those rich bastards are the ones giving devs a reason to make apps for it. Vision 3 and 4 will be the big mass market hits.
@@DairunCates As soon as this tech becomes portable enough to carry in a small backpack full of other stuff on an airplane, it's taking off. iPhone 1 didn't sell. And we all look back at it now like it was a shitty brick with no apps. These things start somewhere. To me, the fact that Apple mastered the eye/hand UI first says a lot.
@@pickledparsleyparty the problem is that Apple is not the first to get AR to the market, especially with hand and eye tracking. The Hololens 2, which came out 4 years ago, does all of that. Plus the Magic Leap 2, which came out 1 year ago, does all that and is fairly compact and can be used on planes. Sure you can argue that Apple will do it better because of the newer tech, but you can't say the tech "needs to start somewhere" when that time was 2016 with the Hololens 1 and Apple is jumping in 7 years later. You can't compare it to an iPhone 1 because that was the first smartphone as we know today. My job is in AR and VR, and I haven't seen anything from Apples headset that I can't do today with one of the headsets sitting at my desk.
And during the same week in which Felon Musk boasts about how he's working (aka, paying people to do it and then take the credit) on a chip-implant that will allow you to browse the web with your brain!
That's an interesting point about it even being outside of the price range of a lot of people for whom it is partially a business expense. Hobbyists and all but the most successful professional tech and gaming content creators/influencers/etc are gonna balk at that price because you're never making that back.
Because the product isn’t meant for people who drive used cars. It’s made for developers and people with a lot of money to spend on such things. You could say the same thing about any luxury product.
Meta did. When they bought up almost all the game studios making VR games and shut them down year by year for tax write offs. Hence why VR titles are so uncommon these days.
Every time this conversation piece comes up I remember that a VR version of Resident Evil 4 exists, right now, ready to play... but only on the oculus. Then I scream internally and go back to not thinking about it.
Alyx did nothing wrong, stupid corpos thinking that dividing a market that is already incredibly niche is a good idea killed the entire VR gaming scene.
The sad part is that so many people who have been indoctrinated into the cult of Apple WILL buy it and go crazy about it, simply because of the logo. These are the same people who spend multiple thousands of dollars on a telephone with literally no option for external storage, proprietary cables and ear pieces which cost as much as other phones, all of which literally have their obsolescence built-in. They don't care that they're getting ripped off. They have the cool new thing with the apple on it. And that makes them proud for a few minutes.
You know, I recently saw a video from a channel called Going Indie talking about the state of VR/AR and its potential future, and while the guy does raise some interesting points and ideas, the fact is that VR headsets will most likely never be as viable for gaming as a console/PC.
Why not? I find that point kinda curious. Though, yeah, VR headset manufacturers are complete idiots. Facebook showed you CAN make a viable headset at a decent price, the Quest 2 was only $300 and was basically a stadalone portable game console which can ALSO be used as a PC headset...they had to raise the price to $400 because they were selling it at a loss but still that's not too bad. Unfortunately all the headset makers are going for some kind of stupid premium high-end audience and keep making their crap too expensive for no good reason while still not fixing the screaming design flaw of poor comfort and how badly they work with glasses. The PSVR does not have this issue, every other headset does.
@@GELTONZ Allow me to clarify: I don't mean to say that VR isn't viable for gaming at all, but it's far more restrictive in terms of what you can do with it. For one thing, you need to have adequate space to move around it so you're not knocking over furniture or bumping into walls. For another, well... Not every game is compatible with a first-person point of view. The cost of VR headsets is definitely the biggest issue, especially with the design flaws you mentioned, but no matter how much the tech improves, I just feel like there's a natural limit you reach with how viable it is as an interface for gaming. The video I mentioned by Going Indie proposes the idea of potentially blending AR/VR through something like "Play Pokemon Go through your glasses," but I think we're still a ways off from that being viable.
@GELTONZ Therein lies the issue: Facebook can AFFORD to sell at a loss, which most other companies can't do. The costs to produce a single headset are higher than 400 a Unit, on average, meaning price has to be higher than that to recoup costs. The only other company I've seen play with their price to that length is HP with the Reverb, and even then it's to shift Units and flesh out sales numbers during holidays. Companies like Pimax make for the sake of full-on Realism, which is a different sub-niche than 'just getting you into VR, to pitch you adverts of things you really don't want.' Companies like HTC have only one Product, or one niche of products, and are the actual pioneers experimenting with higher graphical fidelity, thus the higher price. And again, back when Meta was Oculus, they operated costs on the same 600 tag that things like the Reverb operate on now, with lesser quality materials and tech.
Half-Life: Alyx, Blade & Sorcery, Boneworks & Bonelab, Hotdogs Horseshoes & Hand Grenades, Hellsplit Arena, just all fantastic fun. That's enough games for me, personally, but I get it's not for everyone.
I bought a vr headset earlier this year and I had great fun with it. Sadly, after the car crash, my legs hurt too much to use the vr heatset for long periods of time.
even if it only projects your eyes through to the outside, that means a reflections of what your looking at WILL be on your shiny eyeballs for all to see
Yeah. My 2019 Switch from the pre-redesign gets only 3 hours of battery now. There's no way that 2 hours is going to be more than like an hour after heavy use.
At least Google Glass didn't make you look like you have analog horror eyes. Have you seen pictures of people wearing this stupid thing? Frigging creepy!
that's the confusing thing about it, I'm pretty certain it IS VR, it's just that it's using cameras to passthrough your environment 100% of the time by default so that it can waste power and energy just showing you what the world looks like if you weren't wearing it lol
i really really enjoyed Gorn on my psvr. that’s all i need man. remember when markiplier was playing half life 2 on that weird walking platform with a headset? like a really old video?
Just for clarity, this isn't a VR headset, it's an AR headset. They are very different HOWEVER this is still overpriced and useless because your VR helmets do basically all the same shit other essentially being a phone strapped to your face so the reason it has no controllers is because it's not for gaming. Which imo means it's a vr helmet with less capabilities than a Vr helmet. There's no real reason to buy this especially not for 3,500 dollars. You could buy a whole ass pc with a good monitor plus games, you could buy a ps5 or xbox series with a GOOD tv and still have some left over for multiple games, shit you could even buy a psvr 2 for this price.
The obsession these companies have with creating "AR headsets" is genuinely baffling because if we learned anything from Smart glasses, it's that AR is just your phone but worse. They never think about it beyond the iron man HUD fantasy and consider whether it's actually useful compared to just... holding up your phone, or sitting comfortably in front of a TV or a monitor. VR at least does something those can't but they've completely given up on the idea of selling that to a casual audience.
@@MetalGearRAY675 yea, on one hand I agree with that. On the other I also admit I think it's a really cool albeit insanely gimmicky idea but like I said other than like, calls which I'm sure someone could mod the feature into a VR helmet anyways if not already (idk I don't own a pc vr helmet). There's seemingly nothing the AR helmet can do that a VR helmet can't do and the VR helmets at least have reasonable price tags for the most part PLUS having a better battery life and thr ability to play games.
A lotta issues I have with the vision are due the technology's implications for the future not specs or price, it's as expensive as a hololens by microsoft and since it runs on an M2 (the mainline processor) it's basically strapping a mac mini on your face, it's safe to assume it's not gonna be weak, the battery is though. The problem is what if someone thinks "I want to use this as the reticle/enable firing on a clear target machine?" or "what if a company wants to use this to scan an applicants face during the interview and run that scan through social media to find their actual social media account where they might have pro-union sentiments?" or something that already happens with phones "what if I want to admire someone from afar and know where they go, when they leave, how they get there, what stores do they shop in, who do they know?", in short they can be used as panopticons and HUDs which are always harmful to society and privacy, just because it has the possibility of running modern games as well using GPT doesn't mean it won't lead to worse outcomes for people. Though with all of that said these are nearish future predictions for two reasons 1) the vision is manufactured by apple and therefore closed source which means apple won't allow anything that makes their consumer base feel uneasy, it'll probably be the android one that does the above, and 2) it's probably not this model since it's still a bit unsightly and obvious and expensive, it's clear that the tech still isn't there yet and but it's closer that most though since actual tech giants are starting to move into this field, and not a shitty social media company that threw away so much money so "you can't have legs in the metaverse".
To be fair it has the Pro tag on it, also this is the same company that sells a 5k 32 inch display for 4000 dollars. Also it’s not actually see through it scans your eyes and projects it on the front lcd screen which is unnecessarily dumb.
To be fair, the price point isn't unreasonable in the AR space, which unlike VR has mostly been used commercial and industrial applications. Problem is apple isn't really an industrial supply company, they're not marketing this for industry use, and even if they were, 2 hours of battery is a dealbreaker there...
I was wondering why apple was boasting that their latest laptop is going to be able to run games. Because of the glasses! And I'm positive it's going to struggle, apple hasn't given a shit about gaming for so long that they're going to have to tackle a huge learning curve on how to make things functional and not melt within one generation.
Yeah, they’ve got nearly the same issue as Linux in that area in that they have WAY more developers working on corporate business software than they do gaming software. Even music software receives more attention on Mac.
I got the valve index and the only games ive played on it more then once are half-life alyx and hot dog horseshoes and hand grenades. Only game i consistently come back to is Hot dogs horseshoes and hand grenades because im a fire arms enthusiast so that game is super fun to me, also in my experience with other vr titles, those 2 games are the best controlling vr games available.
Idk, unless Marques Brownlee was straightup lying during his first impressions video, the headset sounds pretty interesting. For more of an AR headset, there's some things to like as far as how they're innovating on the interface. That said, I'm fuckin' poor, I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 4 equivalent of this.
its a lot easier to focus on reviewing the positives when you didn't have to actually drop 3500 to try it.. i think even if it's good, any normal person would still have the "i could have bought so many other things" feeling in their stomach
It’s so sad to hear all of them admit they didn’t actually watch the presentation and them make several claims that I can only assume they got from memes from other people that haven’t actually watch the presentation. Don’t get me wrong I’m not going to be getting the Apple Vision but at least I understand what it is, what it is meant for, and even simple things like how that you don’t “see through” the headset so you can dox someone or steal their card information. Reaaaaally wish they just wouldn’t comment on things if they didn’t put in the couple minutes of research. It really makes me question their opinions on everything I think they should be knowledgeable in.
Apple has been doing in on this "spacial" thing; spacial audio, spacial computing. I don't know what it means or how it's supposed to be an improvement it just sounds like their version of "the metaverse".
Apple never planned on selling a lot of these. I bet you they've made like maybe around 1-200 at max to sell. They plan on selling to the apple fanatic to test and refine.
Idk this video just felt like a bunch of people that dont care about vr talking about how much they dont care about the new VR. Its not a consumer device deapite their marketing, it is however the cutting edge of the highest end headsets, the varjo XR3-type stuff that most people dont even know about, and it will have cheaper version in the future as well as more apps. These guys didnt even do enough research to know that of course the thing doesnt click with blinks, you use eye tracking to aim and you use a pinch with your fingers to click. And they cant see what you are seeing when you are in VR, they are basically a blurry screensaver type of display.
I always wished we went down the "Holographic computer installed in our forearms" line of technology than "DBZ scouters", but DBZ had to get too damn popular...
A lot of the tech being put forward in this? Fucking ~amazing~ for the disability community, anyone with limited motor function who can't use a controller, especially blink controls? Incredible, plus augmented reality can be used for making things in the environment clearer for people who are visually impaired. The thing is disabled people don't tend to have this kind of money to drop on something that there are already functional alternatives for at a fraction of the price.
Its so sad how many Apple owners i know who are already planing to buy this overpriced piece of junk that will surely build up just as much dust if not more as woolies v.r. headset. So many better things to buy for 3500$
The video projection of your eyes is fucking WILD. I wish I could just project the sap e right behind me, so it looks like I have a fuckoff giant hole in the middle of my head, some invisibility tech type shit
I don't want to play a twitchy reflex based combat game in VR. I want to explore a lovingly designed environment and get immersed in its world and narrative. Or explore renders of IRL world heritage sites like a digital tourist. Or visit a crazily designed art museum like a VR Occupy White Walls.
I've been saying for years that VR is doomed to be a niche product for the simple reason that the average person doesn't want to wear some dorky bullshit on their head
Yes except some people can't wink. I can wink on my left but cannot on my right. But blink controls will never be a thing on any headset since blinks are involuntary. Clicks are done by air tapping, which is pressing your index finger and thumb together.
It's a genuinely incredible hardware. Apple has finally made a major step into 3d interfaces and what do they do with it? Make it just another way to use all the same 2d content on virtual 2d screens. The fact that they couldn't even imagine gaming outside of sitting on a sofa looking at a fake screen is baffling. FaceTime is also new and improved... 2d windows of people's faces like always. Thats not to mention all the limitations of packing all the hardware into the headset itself just to require a cable anyway for the battery, and the battery sucks!
@@kip_c precisely. The hardware in that headset is far more capable than anything else on the market, and they wasted it on functionality that matches an ipad
@@BlazeMakesGames it's not a VR headset, it's an AR headset with a fake VR mode using a dial at the top. All the features and technology inside it that they've shown are AR, with an option to switch to VR if you want. And like the OP said, this isn't going to be playing video games. This isn't a video game device.
3:33 Pat forgets Apple and the late Steve Jobs was adamantly against using any of his products to look at porn and some people high up want to keep trying that in his name. With obious levels of success with non-insane people also on the design teams and not Job cultists
When Meta tried to do the Metaverse, it was stupid because creating a Metaverse requires making appealing hardware, and actual content. Apparently the company who specializes in making appealing hardware can't even get that right. I think Microsoft is the most well poised to do it since they have the Hololense, and a game studio, so they can make the hardware AND the content, and the fact that they're not trying anything of the sort speaks volumes.
That's because Sony was once the leader in VR on accident due to PSVR and Microsoft paid off journalists to try to sabotage VR by insisting AR was the future. Honestly? The Oculus Quest 2 was fantastic aside from some comfort issues that all non-PSVR headsets have. That was WHY they rebranded to Meta and tried to make the Metaverse. But the Metaverse bombed because they didn't understand what the POINT of a Metaverse was, or in otherwords: VR Chat was better. Everyone knew VR Chat was better.
Complaining it doesn't have controllers is giving me huge deja-vu from when people said the original iPhone was going to fail because it didn't have a physical slide out keyboard.
VR is always one of two things, boring or nauseating. You either get boring games where you stand in one spot and teleport around. Or real games, that make you unbearably nauseous as making your character walk around gives you motion sickness. And before one of you fuckers try’s to say “the nausea is over exaggerated” keep in mind that all you’re actually saying is “works on my machine” but with your brain. The nausea isn’t exaggerated, you just have a way higher than average tolerance to VR.
man even if nausea was somehow not a problem, which it is.. it still sucks to have a thing on your face for 2 hours, gets all sweaty and foggy, your hair gets in the way and you have to redo the headset, it's impossible to be truly "immersed" or whatever the magical idea of vr is for people
so far, from what I can tell, it's a laptop turned into goggles to use the same shitty office apps you could do with any laptop and easier control, just with a lot less battery life. This isn't made for gaming, it's literally just a vr goggle laptop.
What people do not understand about this device is that it is not a headset. It is a state of the art computer inside a set of goggles. The price tag makes sense for an apple product if you think of it that way.
the problem is that any other "state of the art computer" would be able to do all the things a computer can do, which is nearly anything you want. this AR headset will only do the things that AR can do, which is inherently quite limited
People buy apple products as a status symbol. They don't actually care about the quality just that it's a visual representation that you're not poor. My sister bought a $2500+ iMac and she probably touched it twice. She buys every single new iPhone and apple watches and literally all she does is use Facebook and instagram. Nothing else.
I’m an apple fan and to me this is the dumbest thing they could’ve released. I just expect this to take the iphone approach now. It’ll be slightly different from last year. But when people ask is it any better apple with just go. “Huh? It’s new you want new.”
It seems like Apple is approaching that bit in Hitchhikers Guide where somebody is listening to music, but the system is so advanced and sensitive that he has to sit completely still or else it'll skip to the next song.
That's a fuckin deep cut
the great thing about if its being controlled by blinking is that there are going to be long periods of time where you wont want to usewhatever function blinking does, so you'll just have to stare for long periods without blinking
It's like a clockwork orange machine
That's exactly why blinking will never be a control option for AR or VR, it's not easy to control.
Clicking is done by a gesture called air tapping, which is touch your index finger and thumb together. That's used for clicking at a distance. When close, just touch the holograms with your fingers to push buttons.
It's not gonna be controlled by blinking, It's done via your hands by pinching much like the quest 2 already can as well.
No where during the keynote was it mentioned that blinking was a going to be a control input.
It's not controlled by blinging, you pinch your fingers like other hand tracked solutions, but the cursor is your eye not your hands
Its okay, wait for the second version to come out next year that includes Apple's patented iMoist technology that spritzes your eyes with a non-refillable liquid every 45 seconds that it detects you haven't blinked.
You'll need to buy an entirely new headset once it runs out though.
I know this is completely off-topic but DAMN woolie's slimmed down!
Hah! I was wondering if anyone has thought to comment on this.
I'm super happy that Woolie has gotten into shape again ❤
I feel like the fact that it’s not see-through and just displays a live feed of your eyes on the front of it is somehow *worse* than if it could show everyone what porn you’re looking at
Not live feed. It's even more creppy it's a "machine learning" generated face of yourself. Go see their video on the "design" part
@@chicomaroto That's *even worse,* what the *christ*
@@chicomaroto HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING WORSE
@@metallsnubben It turns out Tim Apple's long lost brother was Homer Simpson and he asked him to design a pair of VR goggles
My job is working in AR and VR, so I've been keeping and eye on this one to compare it to current headsets. As others have said, this IS NOT a VR headset, it's an AR headset with a VR mode, that's a huge difference. There's a nob at the top thats adjustable and lets less light inside the headset until all you can see are the models. This was a big feature in one of the big players in AR headsets, Magic Leap 2. They call it selective dimming. The Crossfire AR glasses also have an impressive VR mode.
As for the price, it's an AR headset, which needs more tech than VR headsets (high quality cameras to capture the area, hands, and eyes, VR does not need that). Apples competition is the Microsoft Hololens 2, which is 4 years old and $3500, and the Magic Leap 2, almost 1 year old and $3300. So Apples price is actually pretty good since it's the newest and likely best quality headset on the market.
But Apple is stupid to try and market this to consumers. My job is in factory production, that's where this will be helpful, the medical industry also adopted AR probably more than any other field. There's no way the average consumer will get this, which means video games will NEVER happen, I guarantee it.
To clear up some stuff from the podcast. Blinking does nothing, even Apple isn't stupid enough to make blink controls. Clicks are done by tapping your index finger and thumb together. The visor is not see through, possibly to make full VR possible (fake VR on AR headsets still let a little light through), so your eyes are being projected on the front. FaceTime actually creates a model of your face to display to others, which looks weird. And sure VR porn is possible, when in VR mode it will not show your eyes, eyes are only displayed in AR when you can see the real world. Also VR porn kinda sucks.
After watching the presentation live, my take away was this headset doesn't do anything that current headsets can't already do, but it will possibly do everything the best. So the best quality models, best eye and spatial tracking, but that's mainly because it's newer technology compared to it's competitors. And if Apple continues trying to advertise to the public, it will be dead on arrival. Microsoft tried that with the Hololens and it failed. Once they switched their approach to target industries, it did very well and is the main headset for AR, even 4 years later.
I hope Pat gets these goggles so he can put Steve Buschemi’s eyes on the front
I can't believe Apple stole the *_"striking while the iron is ice cold"_* Title from woolie
I'm totally not mad that were gonna get the lamest possible cyberpunk dystopia
We've got megacorps seizing power from the government, but no cybernetic limbs, no superhuman augmentations, no neon, none of the fashion, but we've got neverending dread
@@Kaarl_Mills yeah but the gas masks he gotta wear to protect from wild fire air will probably look cool
No wait they'll probably look lame too
@@Kaarl_MillsMachine56 woolie's cybercult is legit
Time to chug that faygo and join the juggalo resistance
@@SarpSpeaksSometimes WOOP WOOP!
Boy howdy can I not wait to find out how underpowered the device ends up being.
You can criticise nearly everything about this headset but the power isn't up for debate, it's got the full M2 chips in there. That thing is easily the best VR/XR/AR hardware on the market, which makes it all the more disappointing just how little can be done with it.
@@existentialselkath1264 That's all fine and dandy but I'm so sick of standalone VR hardware starting to become the norm, because that just means that there will be more exclusivities, and we'll be held back by the power of the headset that can go obsolete, and not the power of our rigs for a PC headset.
@@thundercloud1230 I completely agree. As far as apple is concerned though, they don't need standalone hardware to keep it exclusive to their OS. It's also got almost the same performance as their top spec computers so within Apples ecosystem there's no reason not to be standalone.
Or, sufficiently powerful, but weighed down by software cinderblocks of DRM and platform control. Apple dislikes you having the ability to change your fonts, I doubt they're going to be very forgiving in terms of running full software. Games might run like hot garbage not because of a lack of processing power, but because every single game function has to file a metaphorical G-37D form before it can have permission to render a single line of pixels, lest you run some software or watch some media without paying money for it.
@@existentialselkath1264 It's Apple. It is going to be Underpowered. Their entire business model for the past 2 decades has been wildly overcharging for older (thus cheaper) tech while promoting themselves as a luxury brand. If it is "top of the line" at the moment, give it 6 months. If it doesn't flop, someone will come out with a headset that can do everything this thing can and more for half the price.
This is the first I’ve heard of this VR headset projecting a video of your eyes on the front screen, and all I can think of is that one silly pair of Brütalmoose blindfold where he put a giant unsettling picture of his eyes on the front “so he didn’t make anybody uncomfortable”.
All I’m saying is that Apple owes Ian Brütalfoods a check.
I rarely see his name mentioned around, happy to see it here.
Only real ones know of Ian. I know he's almost at a million subscribers but he'll always deserve more
This is the most needlessly expensive snorkeling mask I've ever seen! It doesn't even cover your nose!
thats good
It's okay. Apple is working on turning all the water on earth into LCL anyway
I don't want to look more human I want to look like ghost in the shell
I want to have risky E-sex in my give up machine dammit!
Bro, if they get me the 2003 Sensation Black poster headset, I will reject my humanity
i will buy this when it just has a cable that jacks directly into my spinal column, and only then
Voidpunk Moment!
@@elviejodann6544 That thing looks immaculate!
Anyone that’s a huge dork know where Woolie got his 3rd Strike shirt from? That shit’s badass
Which one?
@@blaacksugar7714the one in the video, smart guy
It's hilarious that a device with bad battery life wastes power sending a live feed of your eyes to be projected on the front of the goggles for no purpose other than to falsely make you look less antisocial when you're using it in the presence of other people.
My favorite part was that Apple showed someone watching Avatar in 3D on it.
That is what they said is a a good use case for buying it.
Except that The Avatar movie is 3 hours long and you wouldn't be able to finish watching it.
Apple making a sleek discreet looking whisper-quiet autoblow that can conceal under your pants, to make the ultimate give-up machine for the failsons of rich parents. This will actively make the world a better place.
Woah, hip lingo there my groovy boondoggle
I think Woolie was spot on in the very beginning about Apple just dropping it and the market will follow. Some rappers and influencers will have have this and then it becomes a goal.
I'm never gonna let go that the SEGA Nomad has a better battery life on six AA batteries
Edit for clarification: The SEGA Nomad used to be my old benchmark of horrendous battery life after it constantly powered down in the middle of games whenever the AC adapter wasn't in use. The Nomad was new at that point and my dad got it for us without the foreknowledge of the cost of its portability.
Somehow the Nomad still had better battery life than the Game Gear, but I think that was due to a horrendous design flaw with its speakers. I once used a Game Gear with batteries where you could check how much juice they had left in them and when it ran out, it only completely drained one battery while leaving the rest almost untouched.
Holy shit, another person who owned a Nomad! My parents got one for me for the same reason, some clerk at our local game store talked them into it.
I just bought a Game Gear car adapter for mine, and otherwise I never went anywhere with it without my AC adapter and the cable to hook it up to the TV.
@@BHSDesk I wasn't aware of there being a cable to hook it up to a TV (we also had a Genesis, so I suppose the parent move was not having to buy extra games at the same time). Definitely took the AC adapter whenever I brought it to my cousin's place though. Going through so many batteries felt expensive even to child me, since I recognized the remote only using one or two and lasting forever on them. (Edited for capitalization)
if you ever wonder "who is this apple product for?" the answer is "apple customers" in the bleakest sense you could possibly imagine
"My favourite Street Fighter 6 character is Jordan Peterson" had me cracking up
This headset is the equivalent of taping a Juicero to your face.
Believe it or not, Pat’s comparison to PlayStation actually gets _nowhere even close_ to how absurd Apple’s pricing is. For about $3,500, you can get:
A) A new PS5 (bundled with a controller and a game) - $560
B) PS VR2 bundle (includes VR headset, 2 VR controllers, stereo headphones, and a game) - $600
C) 3 more new DualSense controllers with funky patterns - $225
D) _5 years_ of PlayStation Plus Premium (online play and various other extras) - $600
E) 21 new full-price games, standard or VR (assuming a pessimistic pricing of $70 each) - $1,470
That brings us to a grand total of $3,455, leaving us $45 under Apple’s price for their _base model_ VR headset. I know they’re trying to sell it as a productivity tool, but especially at this price there is no way this product isn’t Dead On Arrival.
Wow... Woolie making the unintentional "Hook me up" rant / reference to the Auto-Bloivin at the end there.
That two hour battery life $3500 vr set better take me to SAO levels of realism and graphics
It's not for you or me. It's the iPhone 1. Early adopters only.
And those rich bastards are the ones giving devs a reason to make apps for it. Vision 3 and 4 will be the big mass market hits.
@@pickledparsleyparty ...Or, you know, it'll be a general failure to saturate the market like Apple TV.
@@DairunCates As soon as this tech becomes portable enough to carry in a small backpack full of other stuff on an airplane, it's taking off.
iPhone 1 didn't sell. And we all look back at it now like it was a shitty brick with no apps.
These things start somewhere. To me, the fact that Apple mastered the eye/hand UI first says a lot.
@@pickledparsleyparty the problem is that Apple is not the first to get AR to the market, especially with hand and eye tracking. The Hololens 2, which came out 4 years ago, does all of that. Plus the Magic Leap 2, which came out 1 year ago, does all that and is fairly compact and can be used on planes. Sure you can argue that Apple will do it better because of the newer tech, but you can't say the tech "needs to start somewhere" when that time was 2016 with the Hololens 1 and Apple is jumping in 7 years later.
You can't compare it to an iPhone 1 because that was the first smartphone as we know today. My job is in AR and VR, and I haven't seen anything from Apples headset that I can't do today with one of the headsets sitting at my desk.
Having a phone constantly strapped to your face doesn't sound awful and dystopian at all
Praise be to the Virtua Boy.
If you think work expects you to be constantly available _now_ just you wait
hey, you're the idiots that made it this way. no one forced you to shove your noses in it 24/7, don't blame them for giving you what you want.
And during the same week in which Felon Musk boasts about how he's working (aka, paying people to do it and then take the credit) on a chip-implant that will allow you to browse the web with your brain!
The Recess Puffs box has the same thing, no battery needed, for $3.57, plus Recess Puffs.
Maybe Tim Apple was eating reeses puffs when he got the idea to tell all the engineers to make these
That Onion skit from way back comes to mind, you know the one where the Apple fanboy says "I'll buy anything if it's shiny and made by Apple".
That's an interesting point about it even being outside of the price range of a lot of people for whom it is partially a business expense. Hobbyists and all but the most successful professional tech and gaming content creators/influencers/etc are gonna balk at that price because you're never making that back.
Dang, out of all the super best friends, I think Matt changed the most.
$3,500 huh? I can literally buy a used car with that. Hell I can take a trip to another country with that. Wow the future is stupid.
Because the product isn’t meant for people who drive used cars. It’s made for developers and people with a lot of money to spend on such things.
You could say the same thing about any luxury product.
@@zorth4729 Okay Zach.
Okay Zach
ok. find me a used car for 3500 that isn't a compact rusted buster. im waiting.
Half Life Alyx really did kill the entire VR gaming scene
Meta did. When they bought up almost all the game studios making VR games and shut them down year by year for tax write offs. Hence why VR titles are so uncommon these days.
@@lovelygargoyle5248 Plus you have people like me that wanted to get an Oculus but now it's owned by Meta, don't want to give them the money.
Every time this conversation piece comes up I remember that a VR version of Resident Evil 4 exists, right now, ready to play... but only on the oculus. Then I scream internally and go back to not thinking about it.
Alyx did nothing wrong, stupid corpos thinking that dividing a market that is already incredibly niche is a good idea killed the entire VR gaming scene.
The sad part is that so many people who have been indoctrinated into the cult of Apple WILL buy it and go crazy about it, simply because of the logo. These are the same people who spend multiple thousands of dollars on a telephone with literally no option for external storage, proprietary cables and ear pieces which cost as much as other phones, all of which literally have their obsolescence built-in.
They don't care that they're getting ripped off. They have the cool new thing with the apple on it. And that makes them proud for a few minutes.
I love them pitching in like Fink trying to find out what a ZJ is
You know, I recently saw a video from a channel called Going Indie talking about the state of VR/AR and its potential future, and while the guy does raise some interesting points and ideas, the fact is that VR headsets will most likely never be as viable for gaming as a console/PC.
Why not? I find that point kinda curious. Though, yeah, VR headset manufacturers are complete idiots. Facebook showed you CAN make a viable headset at a decent price, the Quest 2 was only $300 and was basically a stadalone portable game console which can ALSO be used as a PC headset...they had to raise the price to $400 because they were selling it at a loss but still that's not too bad.
Unfortunately all the headset makers are going for some kind of stupid premium high-end audience and keep making their crap too expensive for no good reason while still not fixing the screaming design flaw of poor comfort and how badly they work with glasses. The PSVR does not have this issue, every other headset does.
@@GELTONZ Allow me to clarify: I don't mean to say that VR isn't viable for gaming at all, but it's far more restrictive in terms of what you can do with it.
For one thing, you need to have adequate space to move around it so you're not knocking over furniture or bumping into walls. For another, well... Not every game is compatible with a first-person point of view.
The cost of VR headsets is definitely the biggest issue, especially with the design flaws you mentioned, but no matter how much the tech improves, I just feel like there's a natural limit you reach with how viable it is as an interface for gaming.
The video I mentioned by Going Indie proposes the idea of potentially blending AR/VR through something like "Play Pokemon Go through your glasses," but I think we're still a ways off from that being viable.
@GELTONZ Therein lies the issue: Facebook can AFFORD to sell at a loss, which most other companies can't do. The costs to produce a single headset are higher than 400 a Unit, on average, meaning price has to be higher than that to recoup costs. The only other company I've seen play with their price to that length is HP with the Reverb, and even then it's to shift Units and flesh out sales numbers during holidays. Companies like Pimax make for the sake of full-on Realism, which is a different sub-niche than 'just getting you into VR, to pitch you adverts of things you really don't want.' Companies like HTC have only one Product, or one niche of products, and are the actual pioneers experimenting with higher graphical fidelity, thus the higher price. And again, back when Meta was Oculus, they operated costs on the same 600 tag that things like the Reverb operate on now, with lesser quality materials and tech.
Half-Life: Alyx, Blade & Sorcery, Boneworks & Bonelab, Hotdogs Horseshoes & Hand Grenades, Hellsplit Arena, just all fantastic fun. That's enough games for me, personally, but I get it's not for everyone.
I bought a vr headset earlier this year and I had great fun with it. Sadly, after the car crash, my legs hurt too much to use the vr heatset for long periods of time.
Oof. Well...all I can say to that is get well soon. I hope your legs recover and...well there ARE seated VR experiences but yeah.
shouldn't have been wearing VR while driving.
I can't believe they cut the clip right as they started talking about the Jordan Peterson Milking Machine (tm)
even if it only projects your eyes through to the outside, that means a reflections of what your looking at WILL be on your shiny eyeballs for all to see
that battery life will degrade like the rest of their apple products.
Yeah. My 2019 Switch from the pre-redesign gets only 3 hours of battery now. There's no way that 2 hours is going to be more than like an hour after heavy use.
Very based of Capcom to make jordan peterson the new antagonist of Streetfighter 6
Love when sophie gets in on a podcast
Good ol' Sophie Cube Seeker.
@@Gorfinhofin Sylphie Rhombus Finder
Sherri Tetrahedron Tracker
Sammi the dodecahedron locator.
Samus the Triangle Investigator
So street fighter actually gives people the opportunity to come to your house for an real fight. Big or feature?
Woolie's wrong. It wasn't Apple that wagged the dog, it was Steve Jobs. He's been dead for a long time.
For $3500 their launch title better be Sword Art f*cking Online
You can put a smartphone and cardboard over your eyes for significantly cheaper.
In Australia, this headset costs over $5000!
because that's what 3500 freedom bucks is worth in kangaroo bucks.
That tumbnail goes hard. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's not even marketed as a console. Its marketed as a piece of business hardware.
it's not even VR, it's shitty google glass tier AUGMENTED reality
At least Google Glass didn't make you look like you have analog horror eyes. Have you seen pictures of people wearing this stupid thing? Frigging creepy!
that's the confusing thing about it, I'm pretty certain it IS VR, it's just that it's using cameras to passthrough your environment 100% of the time by default so that it can waste power and energy just showing you what the world looks like if you weren't wearing it lol
12:35 It should just project big dumb googly eyes. At least then it would be funny. Hey, maybe sometimes it will if it gets the right glitch.
i really really enjoyed Gorn on my psvr. that’s all i need man.
remember when markiplier was playing half life 2 on that weird walking platform with a headset? like a really old video?
Just for clarity, this isn't a VR headset, it's an AR headset. They are very different HOWEVER this is still overpriced and useless because your VR helmets do basically all the same shit other essentially being a phone strapped to your face so the reason it has no controllers is because it's not for gaming. Which imo means it's a vr helmet with less capabilities than a Vr helmet. There's no real reason to buy this especially not for 3,500 dollars. You could buy a whole ass pc with a good monitor plus games, you could buy a ps5 or xbox series with a GOOD tv and still have some left over for multiple games, shit you could even buy a psvr 2 for this price.
The obsession these companies have with creating "AR headsets" is genuinely baffling because if we learned anything from Smart glasses, it's that AR is just your phone but worse. They never think about it beyond the iron man HUD fantasy and consider whether it's actually useful compared to just... holding up your phone, or sitting comfortably in front of a TV or a monitor. VR at least does something those can't but they've completely given up on the idea of selling that to a casual audience.
@@MetalGearRAY675 yea, on one hand I agree with that. On the other I also admit I think it's a really cool albeit insanely gimmicky idea but like I said other than like, calls which I'm sure someone could mod the feature into a VR helmet anyways if not already (idk I don't own a pc vr helmet). There's seemingly nothing the AR helmet can do that a VR helmet can't do and the VR helmets at least have reasonable price tags for the most part PLUS having a better battery life and thr ability to play games.
Suzi and Woolie have unknowingly willed the JP into Jordan Peterson mods into the world.
A lotta issues I have with the vision are due the technology's implications for the future not specs or price, it's as expensive as a hololens by microsoft and since it runs on an M2 (the mainline processor) it's basically strapping a mac mini on your face, it's safe to assume it's not gonna be weak, the battery is though.
The problem is what if someone thinks "I want to use this as the reticle/enable firing on a clear target machine?" or "what if a company wants to use this to scan an applicants face during the interview and run that scan through social media to find their actual social media account where they might have pro-union sentiments?" or something that already happens with phones "what if I want to admire someone from afar and know where they go, when they leave, how they get there, what stores do they shop in, who do they know?", in short they can be used as panopticons and HUDs which are always harmful to society and privacy, just because it has the possibility of running modern games as well using GPT doesn't mean it won't lead to worse outcomes for people.
Though with all of that said these are nearish future predictions for two reasons 1) the vision is manufactured by apple and therefore closed source which means apple won't allow anything that makes their consumer base feel uneasy, it'll probably be the android one that does the above, and 2) it's probably not this model since it's still a bit unsightly and obvious and expensive, it's clear that the tech still isn't there yet and but it's closer that most though since actual tech giants are starting to move into this field, and not a shitty social media company that threw away so much money so "you can't have legs in the metaverse".
To be fair it has the Pro tag on it, also this is the same company that sells a 5k 32 inch display for 4000 dollars. Also it’s not actually see through it scans your eyes and projects it on the front lcd screen which is unnecessarily dumb.
To be fair, the price point isn't unreasonable in the AR space, which unlike VR has mostly been used commercial and industrial applications. Problem is apple isn't really an industrial supply company, they're not marketing this for industry use, and even if they were, 2 hours of battery is a dealbreaker there...
I was wondering why apple was boasting that their latest laptop is going to be able to run games. Because of the glasses! And I'm positive it's going to struggle, apple hasn't given a shit about gaming for so long that they're going to have to tackle a huge learning curve on how to make things functional and not melt within one generation.
Yeah, they’ve got nearly the same issue as Linux in that area in that they have WAY more developers working on corporate business software than they do gaming software. Even music software receives more attention on Mac.
That is a solid god damn thumbnail
I think Woolie is missing the most important application of the Apple Vision Pro. ReBoot style VID WINDOWS!
I got the valve index and the only games ive played on it more then once are half-life alyx and hot dog horseshoes and hand grenades. Only game i consistently come back to is Hot dogs horseshoes and hand grenades because im a fire arms enthusiast so that game is super fun to me, also in my experience with other vr titles, those 2 games are the best controlling vr games available.
This headset is gonna age worse than The Apple
Idk, unless Marques Brownlee was straightup lying during his first impressions video, the headset sounds pretty interesting. For more of an AR headset, there's some things to like as far as how they're innovating on the interface.
That said, I'm fuckin' poor, I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 4 equivalent of this.
its a lot easier to focus on reviewing the positives when you didn't have to actually drop 3500 to try it.. i think even if it's good, any normal person would still have the "i could have bought so many other things" feeling in their stomach
also Hotdogs, Horseshoes, and Hand grenades is why you buy vr
It’s so sad to hear all of them admit they didn’t actually watch the presentation and them make several claims that I can only assume they got from memes from other people that haven’t actually watch the presentation.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not going to be getting the Apple Vision but at least I understand what it is, what it is meant for, and even simple things like how that you don’t “see through” the headset so you can dox someone or steal their card information.
Reaaaaally wish they just wouldn’t comment on things if they didn’t put in the couple minutes of research. It really makes me question their opinions on everything I think they should be knowledgeable in.
Can't wait to log in to the metaverse so I can clock in to my AI training job to pay off the loan I took out for my apple headset.
Bruh people need jobs… and we’re definitely in a global recession.
Apple: Let’s make a $3500 Oculus
13:35 classic pat reaction
need clip now
oh boy i cant wait to sell my car for apple vr
Apple has been doing in on this "spacial" thing; spacial audio, spacial computing. I don't know what it means or how it's supposed to be an improvement it just sounds like their version of "the metaverse".
i think street fighter for me and 49 friends would be a better investment. i could start a local tournament bracket with 49 people.
Im going to need to KNOW where did Woolie get that shirt PLEASE!
Apple never planned on selling a lot of these. I bet you they've made like maybe around 1-200 at max to sell. They plan on selling to the apple fanatic to test and refine.
Idk this video just felt like a bunch of people that dont care about vr talking about how much they dont care about the new VR. Its not a consumer device deapite their marketing, it is however the cutting edge of the highest end headsets, the varjo XR3-type stuff that most people dont even know about, and it will have cheaper version in the future as well as more apps. These guys didnt even do enough research to know that of course the thing doesnt click with blinks, you use eye tracking to aim and you use a pinch with your fingers to click. And they cant see what you are seeing when you are in VR, they are basically a blurry screensaver type of display.
I need Woolie's shirt yesterday. Seriously where can I get it?
VR (at least right now) is the Afghanistan of tech empires
I always wished we went down the "Holographic computer installed in our forearms" line of technology than "DBZ scouters", but DBZ had to get too damn popular...
A lot of the tech being put forward in this? Fucking ~amazing~ for the disability community, anyone with limited motor function who can't use a controller, especially blink controls? Incredible, plus augmented reality can be used for making things in the environment clearer for people who are visually impaired. The thing is disabled people don't tend to have this kind of money to drop on something that there are already functional alternatives for at a fraction of the price.
Its so sad how many Apple owners i know who are already planing to buy this overpriced piece of junk that will surely build up just as much dust if not more as woolies v.r. headset. So many better things to buy for 3500$
The apple logo is their identity
ever single Apple consumer since the company ceased calling itself "Macintosh" had always _suffered from_ having more Dollars than Sense
The video projection of your eyes is fucking WILD. I wish I could just project the sap e right behind me, so it looks like I have a fuckoff giant hole in the middle of my head, some invisibility tech type shit
I don't want to play a twitchy reflex based combat game in VR. I want to explore a lovingly designed environment and get immersed in its world and narrative. Or explore renders of IRL world heritage sites like a digital tourist. Or visit a crazily designed art museum like a VR Occupy White Walls.
Apple really trying to pull: THE PS3 WILL TEACH THEM DISCIPLINE
Why would you need an input device? Just control it with voice commands, dozens and dozens of tedious voice commands.
I've been saying for years that VR is doomed to be a niche product for the simple reason that the average person doesn't want to wear some dorky bullshit on their head
would still buy it if it was around 500 USD
If you watch VR porn on this thing, won’t it fuck with the hand gesture response system?
What shirt is Woolie wearing?!
Stupid idea, but wouldn’t a wink work way better than a blink?
Yes except some people can't wink. I can wink on my left but cannot on my right.
But blink controls will never be a thing on any headset since blinks are involuntary. Clicks are done by air tapping, which is pressing your index finger and thumb together.
@@markconigliaro woah I had no idea that was a thing- thanks for the reply!
It's a genuinely incredible hardware. Apple has finally made a major step into 3d interfaces and what do they do with it? Make it just another way to use all the same 2d content on virtual 2d screens.
The fact that they couldn't even imagine gaming outside of sitting on a sofa looking at a fake screen is baffling. FaceTime is also new and improved... 2d windows of people's faces like always.
Thats not to mention all the limitations of packing all the hardware into the headset itself just to require a cable anyway for the battery, and the battery sucks!
no one is going to wear ski goggles to perform needless tasks that your phone can already perform
@@kip_c precisely. The hardware in that headset is far more capable than anything else on the market, and they wasted it on functionality that matches an ipad
It’s almost like there isn’t ACTUALLY anything of value to do with AR
@@The5lacker laughs in Microsoft hololens. Sure, it's not useful to consumers but it's got a lot of functionality for professionals
The best part is they dont realize its not a VR headset, its an AR headset. it wont ever play pc or occulus games
That’s the thing, it’s actually a VR headset lol, their marketing is so trash people have no idea which it is
@@BlazeMakesGames it's not a VR headset, it's an AR headset with a fake VR mode using a dial at the top. All the features and technology inside it that they've shown are AR, with an option to switch to VR if you want.
And like the OP said, this isn't going to be playing video games. This isn't a video game device.
3:33 Pat forgets Apple and the late Steve Jobs was adamantly against using any of his products to look at porn and some people high up want to keep trying that in his name. With obious levels of success with non-insane people also on the design teams and not Job cultists
When Meta tried to do the Metaverse, it was stupid because creating a Metaverse requires making appealing hardware, and actual content.
Apparently the company who specializes in making appealing hardware can't even get that right.
I think Microsoft is the most well poised to do it since they have the Hololense, and a game studio, so they can make the hardware AND the content, and the fact that they're not trying anything of the sort speaks volumes.
That's because Sony was once the leader in VR on accident due to PSVR and Microsoft paid off journalists to try to sabotage VR by insisting AR was the future.
Honestly? The Oculus Quest 2 was fantastic aside from some comfort issues that all non-PSVR headsets have. That was WHY they rebranded to Meta and tried to make the Metaverse. But the Metaverse bombed because they didn't understand what the POINT of a Metaverse was, or in otherwords: VR Chat was better. Everyone knew VR Chat was better.
Yeah but Microsoft can’t make a good console
Well the more or less specialize in selling overpriced crap to idiots these days so it tracks
Complaining it doesn't have controllers is giving me huge deja-vu from when people said the original iPhone was going to fail because it didn't have a physical slide out keyboard.
i dunno, i think i could get like 3 of those apple monitor stands instead
VR is always one of two things, boring or nauseating.
You either get boring games where you stand in one spot and teleport around.
Or real games, that make you unbearably nauseous as making your character walk around gives you motion sickness.
And before one of you fuckers try’s to say “the nausea is over exaggerated” keep in mind that all you’re actually saying is “works on my machine” but with your brain. The nausea isn’t exaggerated, you just have a way higher than average tolerance to VR.
man even if nausea was somehow not a problem, which it is.. it still sucks to have a thing on your face for 2 hours, gets all sweaty and foggy, your hair gets in the way and you have to redo the headset, it's impossible to be truly "immersed" or whatever the magical idea of vr is for people
so far, from what I can tell, it's a laptop turned into goggles to use the same shitty office apps you could do with any laptop and easier control, just with a lot less battery life. This isn't made for gaming, it's literally just a vr goggle laptop.
woolie the dust is because it's a PSVR
What people do not understand about this device is that it is not a headset. It is a state of the art computer inside a set of goggles. The price tag makes sense for an apple product if you think of it that way.
the problem is that any other "state of the art computer" would be able to do all the things a computer can do, which is nearly anything you want. this AR headset will only do the things that AR can do, which is inherently quite limited
People buy apple products as a status symbol. They don't actually care about the quality just that it's a visual representation that you're not poor. My sister bought a $2500+ iMac and she probably touched it twice. She buys every single new iPhone and apple watches and literally all she does is use Facebook and instagram. Nothing else.
yeah vr
true
I’m an apple fan and to me this is the dumbest thing they could’ve released. I just expect this to take the iphone approach now. It’ll be slightly different from last year. But when people ask is it any better apple with just go. “Huh? It’s new you want new.”