Lets be pragmatic here. Multiculturalism played the biggest part in this. The state cannot perform the same job as a local, healthy, integrated community when it comes to identifying and dealing with any potential threats. Multiculturalism causes divides in trust, its tribal.
I personally know of a native British lad who is now in “secure” accommodation for sending social media posts railing against mass immigration and the islamification of England. That’s all. And yet this black immigrant is treated with kid gloves every time he demonstrated his real life danger. The system is working as intended. There are no errors here.
It's all very well saying there was crime before multiculturalism,I grew up in London and there was nowhere near the amount of stabbings as there are nowadays.
ive just had it out with someone they listed, rose fred west, bulgers, lucy letby and some other woman who was born in 1837??? so in 200 years they named 4 Spiked is the woke right we all been reading about 🤣🤣
The whole tone of this piece is ill judged. Stabbing events like this _never_ occurred before mass immigration. And the idea that there was no Islamic element to the attack is clearly wrong. The grotesque attempted beheading of the victims is a clear connection. This felt like a weird exercise in gaslighting their viewers
What about Hungerford and Dunblane? Mass shootings that resulted in gun ownership being almost completely removed from the uk public? Raul moat? Derek bird? There is no causation with mass migration. There is correlation with rising inequality, hollowed out policing and unfettered drug supply however. It’s weird when you vote for successive governments that largely decimate the police service from 2008 onward, crime suddenly starts becoming a real thing doesn’t it? I don’t think people realised how much preventative work the police, probation, prisons and social services did before austerity hamstrung their ability to proactively manage risk. Criticism should be most strongly reserved for politicians who propped up the banks with our money rather than funding our public services. Brown, Cameron, Osborn are particularly culpable
there's also the aspect of accepting/planning for the violence in your own community and the anger at having violence thrusted upon you from the outside. There will always be violence, but the current level - and nature of it - was entirely preventable. I appreciate Slater avoiding muling for the real "far right", but it's still true.
Bad weather is the only reason that the total number of illegal immigrants has not reached 200,000 crossing the channel. Axel's parents were allowed in legally. So the debate about mass immigration has to be led by serious access to data on criminality and dependency on state benefits and social housing by migrants and immigrants. Then people can decide in the voting booths....... That's if we can have a say in our democracy.
There are quite a few witness accounts saying Rudakabana has actually been practising Islam whilst in custody. Whilst I can't confirm he was, obviously, and he does not come from an Islamic family, it's also not beyond the realms of possibility that he was radicalised and converted either. It's not a lie or conspiracy to consider it.
@@OrtegaSeason Along with a few other unverified reports from anonymous staff members at Belmarsh where Rudakabana has been in custody. As I said quite clearly before you attempt to twist my narrative, I obviously cannot confirm there's any truth to this, but considering the evidence we do know to be verified as true and that what happened bears similarities to other Islamic extremist attacks that have happened, it isn't outside the realms of possibility either. Any investigation worth it's salt must surely cover all possibilities and not shy away from certain things for fear of offending certain people.
@@OrtegaSeasonYet Timmy Robinson has been PROVEN correct, despite being continuously demonised by the likes of you, the MSM and the establishment. Rather like Trump, eh?
It’s not incompetence. It’s indifference. Nobody charged with caring, and paid by the taxpayer to care, actually cared. And frankly, they still don’t care, except for the bother this has all caused. The proof: no one in authority has any interest in correcting anything, except to impose a layer of new regulations and inconveniences on the law abiding members of the general public. As though the problem exposed by this horrific incident was at any point the public.
It's not cowardice. If the perpetrator was lower down in the UKs caste system, the institutions bravery would return, and they would gleefully accelerate through the judicial system.
I disagree wholeheartedly. This was more than indifference. It's the result, the catastrophic symptom of public services being infected and intoxicated by cultural marxism.
When they investigate Rhees Mogg and not this guy, they've lost the plot. But to be fair the French have cancelled their Prevent because it was a waste of time. There's not actually anything they can do. R needed sectioning.
Its time Starmer- and everyone else- stopped with the 'far right' labelling. Words are important and labels stick. It is, in a sense ,a form of brainwashing .
They always were. The establishment *were* terrified that their appalling poluces will create sectarian violence, as in Northern Ireland. No it increasingly appears to be the end goal.
Saying that pardoning those arrested for the January 6th protests is ‘wacky’ tells me everything I need to know about these guys. They are part of the problem.
Meanwhile I used to work in libraries and the police couldn't do anything about a load of thugs taking over the building and throwing furniture. The police felt too intimidated (imagine what it was like for us as staff 😂) the police are are a joke
The latest is that NHS Mental Health Services gave up because AR refused to cooperate. This affair is the tragic story of disfunctional yet expensive public services. Agencies that should take responsibility have no incentive in the public sector. Interesting that angry Liverpudlians vented their anger on BBC and Sky reporters outside the court, critical of their superficial coverage and toeing the government line.
shows you how everyone is scared of starmers britain, i remember the bulger killers, 1000s turned up, and only about 50 turned up yesterday... Everyone stayed away!
The approving almost everyone for asylum and lets be honest no checks on the border at all is a massive open door to criminals so it is no hard stretch to link the two.
Tom Slater, at around 10 mins, sounds to me like a watered-down version of Keir Starmer, with his statements to the effect that, ''Axel Rudakubana is nothing to do with Islam, this has nothing to do with mass immigration''. Or his, frankly, crass remark about mass killings having taken place before without reference to immigration or Islam. The point about mass killings is that they are rare. But this century the number has rocketed, as has mass immigration from Muslim dominated countries and from Africa. Correlation may not imply causation but, this case, I think there's a link.
I disagree , for once, with some of your comments regarding the Southport murders. I think that it was obvious to most people when it happened that this was most probably the act by an Islamic extremist. & I don't think that has actually been ruled out by the authorities as the motive. It is not a new threat but one that has increased dramically over the past few years. There was a stabbing of young children only this week in Germany. The Manchester Arena bombing also targetted young girls in particular. A Taylor Swift concert(again attended by many young children) in Austria had to be cancelled because of the threat of an Islamic attack. There have been numberous attacks on schoolchildren in Parkistan & in parts of Africa. In the 2010s 250 attacks were recorded.This may be due to the rise in ISIS & because these types of attack make the most impact . Of course the violent protests that occurred in Southport were completely out of order but taking people for fools , by trying to play everything down ,certainly did not help the situation
It's radical progressivism at play, we have gone from the rational thinking of post 9/11 to acknowledging the threat of Islamists but acknowledging it's not all Muslims doing it. To it's Islamaphobic to even assume it's Islamists when the news breaks. If a sheperd loses a sheep every night for 14 days to a wolf, and on the 15th day he loses another, he isn't going to not assume it's a wolf again.
The problem with discussing this horrific, complex issue, even on decent places like Spiked, is these 'balanced' discussions just do not go far enough. Multiculturalism at all costs is literally destroying our country - and almost all mainstream politicians, media, institutions and commentators REFUSE to address the profound gravity of the problem THEY have imported. The maze of silence, apathy and refusal to deal with the genuine facts means this will just get worse and worse - and worse still, no one is ever held to true account for this dire situation.
Join the dots between Starmer and this psychopaths parents, especially his father and the family in Rwanda. We all know the open secret and how all of this lunacy is to cover Starmer.
Whom are these "Far Right figures" of which you speak? My understanding is that the Far Right is largely the figment of the imagination of those in politics or alternately a cynical labelling of anyone who fails to buy into their narrative.
The whole argument about not releasing information denying him a fair trial is rediculous. How could releasing information that was incontrovertibly true and would be in the trial impact the trial. His defence offered no case for mitigation for goodness sake. If we have a system that is so fragile that there is a chance that a man so obviously guilty could get away with it because his photo had been published or that he had been expelled from school for attacking pupils, then we really do have a problem. Lawyers have so corrupted our legal system so that it 8s not fit for purpose or it is just that the powers didn't want their failure to be published. Rioters might have blamed them instead of Muslims after all.
Schrödinger Spiked. Claims to get upset when everyone who is against us being made a minority in our own homeland as “far right”. Then repeats the same deflecting smears. Clowns.
The father owns an accounting business and his mother works at a dentistry school. They lived in a £170,000 house and they are devout Christians. Their son never attended church contrary to how the media portrayed him.
They had lived in Uganda safely for 8 years after leaving Rwanda. And yet the treacherous vermin who run our home office actually flew them here to “claim asylum”.
Care in the community has left the public vulnerable. There was a time when the criminally insane were institutionalized before they could kill anyone.
@@raymondpage4574 Thanks where did you get that? I heard it from the Astor interview on Dan Wooten (in turn claiming direct witness). If so I would expect is an assessment from those responsible for autopsy as to whether this was incidental to a frenzied attack or deliberate. If the latter Sura 47 needs to be referred to and I would expect a clear assessment of evidence as to his current and past religious affiliation given the other evidence that might not be conclusive on its own - considering that there were probably many motives. Given the allyship bias of the CPS there is no way they can be relied upon to be professional on such issues and may not have investigated motive properly deliberately. Not withstanding all this business of imprisoning people for making a reasonable guess in a vacuum needs to be undone.
@@armondtanz Charlie Bentley Astor on Dan Wooten was where I saw it. The key thing again is that more information is needed, it needs a disclosed independent medical opinion.
@ i think Starmer has his narrative and his media puppets just all go along with it... I don't believe in independent report in the UK under starmer.. no chance! If u wanna ban everything, then you wanna control everything.
With so many processes, procedures, spurious laws to cover identities and mental illnesses, we have moved into sympathy for the devil territory. Victim is exchanged for perpetrator and perpetrator for victim.
A friend of mine who is black told me he got a caution for drink driving yesterday. I know of no white people who have got off with a cation for testing over the limit for drink driving! I was gobsmacked!
He had special treatment from the start. Mask in court and not attending. He had them around his little finger. The worser crime U do the better U are looked after. Stop the islamafacation of the UK and native replacement.
How would anyone know whether he was motivated by terror groups abroad if the Intelligence Services are not forthcoming with what they knew about unusual activities in terror groups' chat and messaging services? You cannot refuse to look at the possible connection between Rudekubana and some terrorist group via the Internet. Terror attacks are often commanded from afar and executed locally. This has not even been mentioned by anyone. THAT is conspicuous.
I would suspect the main barrier to doing much around the Southport killer was his age. Children are treated as children first within all systems and detention in custody of kids is extremely difficult to achieve and extremely rare. Any changes need to be around recognizing that children can be dangerous and that public safety needs to come before child welfare
The guy had psychopath written all over him and was flagged up for multiple events of violence and very worrying behaviour in his youth, just how mentally distubed do you have to be before people with white coats throw you in an asylum. This is an institutional failure on multiple levels.
The problem is too vast for the state to be able deal with this, think we need a reality check here. Failings accusations NO it’s just government departments being so overwhelmed-Christ what a mess this country is in…😊
Is it just me or does anyone else think Starmer has leant upon the CPS to say nothing?Starmer being first and foremost a lawyer,will not understand public anger.He will think "how can you possibly be angry about anything if you dont have all the facts?You must be just racists.I will control your information."
If this level of incompetence occurred in any business those responsible would be sacked for gross negligence. Who are these people that didn’t follow up or detain or even prosecute? There is no one as usual being held accountable! His parents should also be dealt with as they knew what was going on with ricin in their house how could they not! This country is now a joke!
The judge would have given him full life if he could.52 years is still a long long time,assuming he survives.Then he must have a parole hearing at age 70.He will be at least 70.The judge will have notes that he recommends he is not released.
We don’t have the mental health institutions like we used to! It was decided that medication and psychiatric help was enough and closed them down! Sadly the enormous negativity in the world will produce more broken people! We’ve gone from one extreme to another when it was over the top locking up a hundred years ago to a crumbling social care system
The media lack of focus on his obsession with white genocide is interesting. He was a racist who had a pathological hatred of whites. When James Lindsay stated that “Woke” or post colonial theory and critical race theory in particular, had a seed of genocide residing within in it, certainly makes me think. All of the various “crimes” against blacks at the hands of whites were found on his computer. How slaves were treated and “the crimes of the European Empires” in Africa. He was obsessed, is it plausible his hatred and resentment was fulled by the anti white, anti British climate woke has created? I believe these various doctrines are revolutionary politics masquerading as social justice. I think they are designed to sow the seeds of resentment. And there is no doubt that Axel resented whites. It’s like we created our own Julius Malema but unlike Malema (for the moment) acted on his thinking.
Maybe he researched the law and found out he only had about 10 days to act before he ran the risk of being convicted as an adult so he did what he did?Maybe he intended killing himself afterwards as they often do but chickened out.Hes gonna suffer anyway.
Did they pardon the Jan 6th rioters or did they pardon the people put in jail for 4 years for following the Capitol Police around on a guided tour of the Capitol building? People who committed no violence whatsoever.
5 year custodial sentence for carrying a knife. NO EXCUSES. Any age, with or without a criminal history. No trial, no appeal, no review. Problem solved. Either they will stop carrying knives OR they will be in prison. End of.
How does that work if you use a knife in your job or hobbies? All fishermen have a knife or two for cutting line or bait. People like me who work with wild life carry a small Mora knife to cut animals free from traps or fences. I am sick of sensible people being persecuted for idiots.
@@fredo1070Or a carpet layer roofer tree surgeon landscape gardner joiner. Many coppers carry a multitool with two blades as do mountain rescue climbers walkers.
He's not psychotic. He was considered fit to stand trial. He is clearly a sadistic psychopath though and maybe the worst of it only manifested post-puberty.
He is the product of sitting in his room watching disturbing images of violent murders every hour day month year. He thought that it was normal to be watching that in the classroom, he also thought it was normal to carry a knife to school and threaten to stab another child because he didn't like him. There was a video of him being restrained in the classroom by a teacher and another pupil that has been removed on TickTock. His behaviour became so deranged that his parents called the police 4 times to their home. So they probably felt threatened or had knowledge that their son wanted to harm children.
What a rambling, incoherent podcast this episode is... Where is your Focus? *Why* are you so hesitant to just get to the core of the issue, and instead spend the time apologising and backing away from just plain honesty? Call the Spade a Spade, don't spend the time you have just waffling over whether the spade is for shovelling, or patting...
@@manofculture584 No 'Manofculture', I am criticising a rambling and unfocused Podcast. It wanders around the topic, won't engage with it head-on, and the three hosts seems to be uncertain of where to focus... I hope that clarifies things for you!
@@manofculture584 Is it prejudice or is it pattern recognition? Is it bigotry or a common sense approach to what ordinary people see happening? Continuing to throw 'ists', 'isms' is losing it's power. How do you think this would've been reported if this had been a childs R&B dance class and the perpetrator had been an angry christian.
@@davidmullen6011 Like the government and the establishment in general,they are terrified of the consequences upon their ideology if they dig too deeply...
@@davidmullen6011 Agree, very disappointed with this episode. Often Spiked gives a thorough overlook at what has happened in the week and makes insightful comment.
Well done Spiked for having integrity and dissecting this incident correctly. There must have been a huge incentive to ascribe this horrendous crime to immigration policy or Islamism. Well done for not giving in to the grift like countless others on the right have done. We have to call things accurately even if they do not fit our narrative otherwise we are no better than AI slop. The Southport attacker does not fit the profile of ethnic or islamist crime. He is an almost carbon copy of Adam Lanza.
I really want to like spiked but a lot of the times you just sprout nonsense without any substance to back up your claims. This animal is a convert to Islam and going by people’s testimony of his character he was obsessed with death and destruction, which I would argue is precisely why he gravitated to Islam the death cult.
@@EreJkuyyuf8i0o-iiu7y7 says who? Tommy Robinson who claimed he knew this despite TR being in solitary confinement? The police found no evidence of him being Muslim. So is the allegation that he converted without any digital footprint of reading Islamic texts? He converted without having a copy of the Koran? It seems a hop and a skip to believe this.
He was also fascinated by atrocities committed by the IRA and other terrorist organizations. Do you really think that the Muslim brotherhood would accept him? He's not worth the hassle for them in HMP, even prisoners have a moral code; some of them have children too and I seriously doubt that attending a mosque in prison will offer him any protection either. He is a dead man walking.
Lets be pragmatic here. Multiculturalism played the biggest part in this. The state cannot perform the same job as a local, healthy, integrated community when it comes to identifying and dealing with any potential threats. Multiculturalism causes divides in trust, its tribal.
Definitely. We’re a tribal species. We used to self police and cast out it help
Totally. We have been brainwashed to go against our natural instinct to protect our OWN community.
I personally know of a native British lad who is now in “secure” accommodation for sending social media posts railing against mass immigration and the islamification of England. That’s all. And yet this black immigrant is treated with kid gloves every time he demonstrated his real life danger. The system is working as intended. There are no errors here.
It's all very well saying there was crime before multiculturalism,I grew up in London and there was nowhere near the amount of stabbings as there are nowadays.
Fist fights yes but cowards who can’t fight will use weapons.
ive just had it out with someone they listed, rose fred west, bulgers, lucy letby and some other woman who was born in 1837???
so in 200 years they named 4
Spiked is the woke right we all been reading about 🤣🤣
The whole tone of this piece is ill judged. Stabbing events like this _never_ occurred before mass immigration.
And the idea that there was no Islamic element to the attack is clearly wrong. The grotesque attempted beheading of the victims is a clear connection.
This felt like a weird exercise in gaslighting their viewers
What about Hungerford and Dunblane? Mass shootings that resulted in gun ownership being almost completely removed from the uk public?
Raul moat?
Derek bird?
There is no causation with mass migration. There is correlation with rising inequality, hollowed out policing and unfettered drug supply however.
It’s weird when you vote for successive governments that largely decimate the police service from 2008 onward, crime suddenly starts becoming a real thing doesn’t it?
I don’t think people realised how much preventative work the police, probation, prisons and social services did before austerity hamstrung their ability to proactively manage risk.
Criticism should be most strongly reserved for politicians who propped up the banks with our money rather than funding our public services. Brown, Cameron, Osborn are particularly culpable
there's also the aspect of accepting/planning for the violence in your own community and the anger at having violence thrusted upon you from the outside. There will always be violence, but the current level - and nature of it - was entirely preventable. I appreciate Slater avoiding muling for the real "far right", but it's still true.
Bad weather is the only reason that the total number of illegal immigrants has not reached 200,000 crossing the channel.
Axel's parents were allowed in legally. So the debate about mass immigration has to be led by serious access to data on criminality and dependency on state benefits and social housing by migrants and immigrants.
Then people can decide in the voting booths....... That's if we can have a say in our democracy.
There are quite a few witness accounts saying Rudakabana has actually been practising Islam whilst in custody. Whilst I can't confirm he was, obviously, and he does not come from an Islamic family, it's also not beyond the realms of possibility that he was radicalised and converted either. It's not a lie or conspiracy to consider it.
Tommy Robinson isn't "Quite a few witnesses".
@@OrtegaSeason Along with a few other unverified reports from anonymous staff members at Belmarsh where Rudakabana has been in custody. As I said quite clearly before you attempt to twist my narrative, I obviously cannot confirm there's any truth to this, but considering the evidence we do know to be verified as true and that what happened bears similarities to other Islamic extremist attacks that have happened, it isn't outside the realms of possibility either. Any investigation worth it's salt must surely cover all possibilities and not shy away from certain things for fear of offending certain people.
@@OrtegaSeasonYet Timmy Robinson has been PROVEN correct, despite being continuously demonised by the likes of you, the MSM and the establishment.
Rather like Trump, eh?
It’s not incompetence. It’s indifference. Nobody charged with caring, and paid by the taxpayer to care, actually cared. And frankly, they still don’t care, except for the bother this has all caused. The proof: no one in authority has any interest in correcting anything, except to impose a layer of new regulations and inconveniences on the law abiding members of the general public. As though the problem exposed by this horrific incident was at any point the public.
Yep. Insitutional cowardice is the default setting: avoid trouble, comply unquestioningly with prevailing ideology. collect fat public sector salary.
It's not cowardice. If the perpetrator was lower down in the UKs caste system, the institutions bravery would return, and they would gleefully accelerate through the judicial system.
Mi5 are gonna raid argos cutlery department and magnet kitchens
I disagree wholeheartedly. This was more than indifference. It's the result, the catastrophic symptom of public services being infected and intoxicated by cultural marxism.
They’ve known for at least 10 years that it isn’t working, but they hid the data and just carried on.
“Prevent” have shifted their attention towards Starmer’s distracting obsession with “right wing” to avoid being Islamophobic.
This really is true (I have worked as a Prevent lead)
When they investigate Rhees Mogg and not this guy, they've lost the plot. But to be fair the French have cancelled their Prevent because it was a waste of time. There's not actually anything they can do. R needed sectioning.
Its time Starmer- and everyone else- stopped with the 'far right' labelling. Words are important and labels stick. It is, in a sense ,a form of brainwashing .
They always were. The establishment *were* terrified that their appalling poluces will create sectarian violence, as in Northern Ireland. No it increasingly appears to be the end goal.
Saying that pardoning those arrested for the January 6th protests is ‘wacky’ tells me everything I need to know about these guys. They are part of the problem.
Spot on. What is their agenda?
Enoch Powell’s “Rivers of blood” speech is looking more and more prescient!
Yes, and they're building our funeral pyre.
You’ve cooked your goose Starmer. The corruption and cover ups have gone way too far. It won’t end well.
It all smells like there's a direct and significant link between Starmer and the parents' asylum application to Britain.
Look up Louise Uwacu and make of it what you will.
Yet Lancashire Police were at my door within 20 minutes of a relative reporting that they felt offended by a social media post I made last month.
Because that's easier and safer and because it appeals to the type of people who now are recruited to lead the police.
Meanwhile I used to work in libraries and the police couldn't do anything about a load of thugs taking over the building and throwing furniture. The police felt too intimidated (imagine what it was like for us as staff 😂) the police are are a joke
The latest is that NHS Mental Health Services gave up because AR refused to cooperate.
This affair is the tragic story of disfunctional yet expensive public services. Agencies that should take responsibility have no incentive in the public sector. Interesting that angry Liverpudlians vented their anger on BBC and Sky reporters outside the court, critical of their superficial coverage and toeing the government line.
Enoch Powell’s prediction about rivers of blood is looking more and more prescient!
shows you how everyone is scared of starmers britain, i remember the bulger killers, 1000s turned up, and only about 50 turned up yesterday... Everyone stayed away!
The approving almost everyone for asylum and lets be honest no checks on the border at all is a massive open door to criminals so it is no hard stretch to link the two.
His parents resettled through formal channels. They didn't come by boat or enter the country illegally.
@@barekicks There are no questions on the rwanda genocide at all.
Tom Slater, at around 10 mins, sounds to me like a watered-down version of Keir Starmer, with his statements to the effect that, ''Axel Rudakubana is nothing to do with Islam, this has nothing to do with mass immigration''. Or his, frankly, crass remark about mass killings having taken place before without reference to immigration or Islam. The point about mass killings is that they are rare. But this century the number has rocketed, as has mass immigration from Muslim dominated countries and from Africa. Correlation may not imply causation but, this case, I think there's a link.
I disagree , for once, with some of your comments regarding the Southport murders. I think that it was obvious to most people when it happened that this was most probably the act by an Islamic extremist. & I don't think that has actually been ruled out by the authorities as the motive.
It is not a new threat but one that has increased dramically over the past few years.
There was a stabbing of young children only this week in Germany. The Manchester Arena bombing also targetted young girls in particular. A Taylor Swift concert(again attended by many young children) in Austria had to be cancelled because of the threat of an Islamic attack. There have been numberous attacks on schoolchildren in Parkistan & in parts of Africa. In the 2010s 250 attacks were recorded.This may be due to the rise in ISIS & because these types of attack make the most impact .
Of course the violent protests that occurred in Southport were completely out of order but taking people for fools , by trying to play everything down ,certainly did not help the situation
They, for some reason, are trying to gaslight us.
It's radical progressivism at play, we have gone from the rational thinking of post 9/11 to acknowledging the threat of Islamists but acknowledging it's not all Muslims doing it. To it's Islamaphobic to even assume it's Islamists when the news breaks.
If a sheperd loses a sheep every night for 14 days to a wolf, and on the 15th day he loses another, he isn't going to not assume it's a wolf again.
The problem with discussing this horrific, complex issue, even on decent places like Spiked, is these 'balanced' discussions just do not go far enough. Multiculturalism at all costs is literally destroying our country - and almost all mainstream politicians, media, institutions and commentators REFUSE to address the profound gravity of the problem THEY have imported. The maze of silence, apathy and refusal to deal with the genuine facts means this will just get worse and worse - and worse still, no one is ever held to true account for this dire situation.
And what about G.Sooros .... He purchased several radio stations at unheard of speed. Dems not a party of oligarchy?
Make everyone who failed society be brought to account.
Join the dots between Starmer and this psychopaths parents, especially his father and the family in Rwanda. We all know the open secret and how all of this lunacy is to cover Starmer.
Whom are these "Far Right figures" of which you speak? My understanding is that the Far Right is largely the figment of the imagination of those in politics or alternately a cynical labelling of anyone who fails to buy into their narrative.
Forgetting the narrative that we were told he was a good Christian boy….
When is this MADNESS gonna end? It is mind boggling how Labour and Tory have been allowed to reign by our population🤔🤷♂️
where did the"Welsh choir boy" idea come from?
Probably RICU and/or OSCT
he was born in wales to african christian parents
He's certainly nothing like Aled Jones
Owen Evans, Rhys Jones, Axel Rudakubana... All strong Welsh names. @@armondtanz
The mainstream media, under orders from the state.
The whole argument about not releasing information denying him a fair trial is rediculous. How could releasing information that was incontrovertibly true and would be in the trial impact the trial. His defence offered no case for mitigation for goodness sake. If we have a system that is so fragile that there is a chance that a man so obviously guilty could get away with it because his photo had been published or that he had been expelled from school for attacking pupils, then we really do have a problem. Lawyers have so corrupted our legal system so that it 8s not fit for purpose or it is just that the powers didn't want their failure to be published. Rioters might have blamed them instead of Muslims after all.
I refuse to believe that wasn't coming from the very top
Exactly 💯
Who is being held to account within the authorities for this tragedy?
Nobody. The authorities and the British state will never hold any of their number to account. The authorities are evil, utterly utterly evil.
Starts with the McPherson Report, the cause of all our problems.
McPherson and Blair(s)
Some people would argue the problem(s) started with Lutherism.
@@jonathandnicholson What would that argument be like ?
@@anthonymitchell6216 Protestantism created individualism.
Will people please comcentrate on the human rights lawyer who allowed this family in?! You will find it interesting and important.
Where is the proof a document on X? Easily debunked.
Thank you all for your insights
Schrödinger Spiked. Claims to get upset when everyone who is against us being made a minority in our own homeland as “far right”. Then repeats the same deflecting smears. Clowns.
Can someone tell me who is father really is, why is he here and what is his status (refugee or political asylum)?
They're probably naturalised citizens now.
The father owns an accounting business and his mother works at a dentistry school. They lived in a £170,000 house and they are devout Christians. Their son never attended church contrary to how the media portrayed him.
They had lived in Uganda safely for 8 years after leaving Rwanda. And yet the treacherous vermin who run our home office actually flew them here to “claim asylum”.
Care in the community has left the public vulnerable. There was a time when the criminally insane were institutionalized before they could kill anyone.
I call him Axel Starmakubana, given that Starmer seems to have somewhat fatherly feelings towards this vile killer.
Was a girl beheaded YES/NO?
Almost.
@@raymondpage4574 Thanks where did you get that? I heard it from the Astor interview on Dan Wooten (in turn claiming direct witness). If so I would expect is an assessment from those responsible for autopsy as to whether this was incidental to a frenzied attack or deliberate. If the latter Sura 47 needs to be referred to and I would expect a clear assessment of evidence as to his current and past religious affiliation given the other evidence that might not be conclusive on its own - considering that there were probably many motives. Given the allyship bias of the CPS there is no way they can be relied upon to be professional on such issues and may not have investigated motive properly deliberately. Not withstanding all this business of imprisoning people for making a reasonable guess in a vacuum needs to be undone.
8 inch knife? one child received over 100 wounds? whats the source?
@@armondtanz Charlie Bentley Astor on Dan Wooten was where I saw it. The key thing again is that more information is needed, it needs a disclosed independent medical opinion.
@ i think Starmer has his narrative and his media puppets just all go along with it... I don't believe in independent report in the UK under starmer.. no chance!
If u wanna ban everything, then you wanna control everything.
With so many processes, procedures, spurious laws to cover identities and mental illnesses, we have moved into sympathy for the devil territory. Victim is exchanged for perpetrator and perpetrator for victim.
A friend of mine who is black told me he got a caution for drink driving yesterday. I know of no white people who have got off with a cation for testing over the limit for drink driving! I was gobsmacked!
So when is the three part Channel 4 dramatisation to be aired?
Yeah right.
He had special treatment from the start. Mask in court and not attending. He had them around his little finger. The worser crime U do the better U are looked after. Stop the islamafacation of the UK and native replacement.
His dad seems to be culpable
As we all know, this was the fault of bezos..........
raids on Argos cutlery department and magnet kitchens as we speak!
Benzos maybe
How would anyone know whether he was motivated by terror groups abroad if the Intelligence Services are not forthcoming with what they knew about unusual activities in terror groups' chat and messaging services?
You cannot refuse to look at the possible connection between Rudekubana and some terrorist group via the Internet. Terror attacks are often commanded from afar and executed locally. This has not even been mentioned by anyone. THAT is conspicuous.
25 years well done
Don't forget diversity is our strength and all fear and concerns will vanish like magic and your hair turns blue or red ,
They magically found reports that he was in Alder Hey Kids Hospital for mental health
I found you guys this week and was shocked by how reasonable and well spoken your commentary was. 25 years. That makes sense.
I would suspect the main barrier to doing much around the Southport killer was his age.
Children are treated as children first within all systems and detention in custody of kids is extremely difficult to achieve and extremely rare.
Any changes need to be around recognizing that children can be dangerous and that public safety needs to come before child welfare
Does amazon sell ricin?
We need to be pushing for information on his drug use if any. See ATTACKER SMOKED CANNABIS
Well spoken Connor
Pathetic dereliction of duty by multiple agencies has made the UK unsafe for its citizens for decades....unforgivable
The guy had psychopath written all over him and was flagged up for multiple events of violence and very worrying behaviour in his youth, just how mentally distubed do you have to be before people with white coats throw you in an asylum. This is an institutional failure on multiple levels.
The mugshot is Demonic.
Horrifying.
He appears to have no lips in the image.
He has a thing about hiding his lips.
The problem is too vast for the state to be able deal with this, think we need a reality check here. Failings accusations NO it’s just government departments being so overwhelmed-Christ what a mess this country is in…😊
Is it just me or does anyone else think Starmer has leant upon the CPS to say nothing?Starmer being first and foremost a lawyer,will not understand public anger.He will think "how can you possibly be angry about anything if you dont have all the facts?You must be just racists.I will control your information."
Do Childline have a record of his phone call to them and their response?
If this level of incompetence occurred in any business those responsible would be sacked for gross negligence. Who are these people that didn’t follow up or detain or even prosecute? There is no one as usual being held accountable! His parents should also be dealt with as they knew what was going on with ricin in their house how could they not! This country is now a joke!
What options were available to all these parties? Genuine question.
Guys, it’s not racist to want your society to maintain social cohesion and some degree of cultural coherence with the past.
It’s not wacky to release political prisoners …
The judge would have given him full life if he could.52 years is still a long long time,assuming he survives.Then he must have a parole hearing at age 70.He will be at least 70.The judge will have notes that he recommends he is not released.
We don’t have the mental health institutions like we used to! It was decided that medication and psychiatric help was enough and closed them down! Sadly the enormous negativity in the world will produce more broken people! We’ve gone from one extreme to another when it was over the top locking up a hundred years ago to a crumbling social care system
52 years is not adequate … he needs to rot in jail forever. Never see the light of a free day.
Can people please stop slapping Tom!
Two tiered spiked. Tickets for the privileged ?
I think she means decimated. Or does she mean desiccated
lacking vitality or interest.
"a desiccated history of ideas"
🤔
Digital ID's next you watch.
The media lack of focus on his obsession with white genocide is interesting.
He was a racist who had a pathological hatred of whites.
When James Lindsay stated that “Woke” or post colonial theory and critical race theory in particular, had a seed of genocide residing within in it, certainly makes me think.
All of the various “crimes” against blacks at the hands of whites were found on his computer. How slaves were treated and “the crimes of the European Empires” in Africa.
He was obsessed, is it plausible his hatred and resentment was fulled by the anti white, anti British climate woke has created?
I believe these various doctrines are revolutionary politics masquerading as social justice.
I think they are designed to sow the seeds of resentment.
And there is no doubt that Axel resented whites.
It’s like we created our own Julius Malema but unlike Malema (for the moment) acted on his thinking.
Maybe he researched the law and found out he only had about 10 days to act before he ran the risk of being convicted as an adult so he did what he did?Maybe he intended killing himself afterwards as they often do but chickened out.Hes gonna suffer anyway.
Did they pardon the Jan 6th rioters or did they pardon the people put in jail for 4 years for following the Capitol Police around on a guided tour of the Capitol building? People who committed no violence whatsoever.
Spiked seem entranced with the mythical UK "far right".What qualifies as far right?
So what would have got it to prevent?
5 year custodial sentence for carrying a knife. NO EXCUSES. Any age, with or without a criminal history. No trial, no appeal, no review. Problem solved. Either they will stop carrying knives OR they will be in prison. End of.
What happens if you are a chef going to work?
How does that work if you use a knife in your job or hobbies?
All fishermen have a knife or two for cutting line or bait.
People like me who work with wild life carry a small Mora knife to cut animals free from traps or fences.
I am sick of sensible people being persecuted for idiots.
@@fredo1070Or a carpet layer roofer tree surgeon landscape gardner joiner.
Many coppers carry a multitool with two blades as do mountain rescue climbers walkers.
Perhaps you could push your brain to 11 and imagine obvious exceptions for work?
Try not to think about it. Your brain might explode.
So - was he a young psychotic while he was starring in children in need ads for the beeb?
I wonder at the safeguards for the other child actors. Blood runs cold.
He's not psychotic. He was considered fit to stand trial.
He is clearly a sadistic psychopath though and maybe the worst of it only manifested post-puberty.
He is the product of sitting in his room watching disturbing images of violent murders every hour day month year. He thought that it was normal to be watching that in the classroom, he also thought it was normal to carry a knife to school and threaten to stab another child because he didn't like him. There was a video of him being restrained in the classroom by a teacher and another pupil that has been removed on TickTock. His behaviour became so deranged that his parents called the police 4 times to their home. So they probably felt threatened or had knowledge that their son wanted to harm children.
Is he a muslim convert ? .
Warren zevon's song Excitable Boy. Not incompetents just apathy
What a rambling, incoherent podcast this episode is... Where is your Focus? *Why* are you so hesitant to just get to the core of the issue, and instead spend the time apologising and backing away from just plain honesty?
Call the Spade a Spade, don't spend the time you have just waffling over whether the spade is for shovelling, or patting...
You're upset they are trying to deliver accurate information that doesn't conform to your prejudices?
@@manofculture584 No 'Manofculture', I am criticising a rambling and unfocused Podcast. It wanders around the topic, won't engage with it head-on, and the three hosts seems to be uncertain of where to focus...
I hope that clarifies things for you!
@@manofculture584
Is it prejudice or is it pattern recognition?
Is it bigotry or a common sense approach to what ordinary people see happening?
Continuing to throw 'ists', 'isms' is losing it's power.
How do you think this would've been reported if this had been a childs R&B dance class and the perpetrator had been an angry christian.
@@davidmullen6011 Like the government and the establishment in general,they are terrified of the consequences upon their ideology if they dig too deeply...
@@davidmullen6011
Agree, very disappointed with this episode.
Often Spiked gives a thorough overlook at what has happened in the week and makes insightful comment.
Sick
This is who the UK voted for to be their Prime Minister.
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19:03 😂 rioters? Many were flat-out political prisoners 😂
#wantedpogroms
Well done Spiked for having integrity and dissecting this incident correctly. There must have been a huge incentive to ascribe this horrendous crime to immigration policy or Islamism.
Well done for not giving in to the grift like countless others on the right have done. We have to call things accurately even if they do not fit our narrative otherwise we are no better than AI slop.
The Southport attacker does not fit the profile of ethnic or islamist crime. He is an almost carbon copy of Adam Lanza.
He's just a misunderstood "Welsh" boy
Manage the public perception not the problem, spot on.
I really want to like spiked but a lot of the times you just sprout nonsense without any substance to back up your claims.
This animal is a convert to Islam and going by people’s testimony of his character he was obsessed with death and destruction, which I would argue is precisely why he gravitated to Islam the death cult.
Where is the evidence he converted?
@@barekickshe’s attending mosque in prison
@@EreJkuyyuf8i0o-iiu7y7 says who? Tommy Robinson who claimed he knew this despite TR being in solitary confinement? The police found no evidence of him being Muslim. So is the allegation that he converted without any digital footprint of reading Islamic texts? He converted without having a copy of the Koran? It seems a hop and a skip to believe this.
He was also fascinated by atrocities committed by the IRA and other terrorist organizations. Do you really think that the Muslim brotherhood would accept him? He's not worth the hassle for them in HMP, even prisoners have a moral code; some of them have children too and I seriously doubt that attending a mosque in prison will offer him any protection either. He is a dead man walking.
It was a pakistani account that started the "false muslim" allegation.
What did bnp say about muslim pakistani grooming gangs that was wrong?
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