Secrets of Hurricane Hordak in the MOTUC line. BONUS: How does Vac-Metalizing work? Vac-Metal toys
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Scott ToyGuru Netilich continues his Director's Commentary on the Masters of the Universe line from Mattel. As an added bonus, in this episode he also explains how Vac Metalizing works, the process for making toys shiny and looking like they have metal (i.e. the Kenner C-3PO)
This is a great channel! I've been binge-watching your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us!
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Then go check out the video he just posted on binge watching itself! 😂👍 Seriously though, great channel.
Always loved those vac-metal toys as a kid. Those and translucent ones, like the old Tron figures. I was curious as to exactly how this was done, so thanks for showing us!
Oh man, those old Tron figures were the bomb!
@@spectorcreative1872 So true. I was happy when they reissued them a while back. I must have had multiple ones when I was a kid because I would keep losing their discs or their arms and legs would fall out of the body. I love that they made different color variants too, and the recent ones by Diamond Select are pretty nice as well.
Awesome learning what vac-metal is.. Always reminds me of the little athletes on the top of trophies.
Same process!
I got this figure back in '11 and he has no flaking even almost a decade later. The vac-metalizing works great - thanks for going the extra mile on this one (and every one).
Yeah mine is good too. Thank goodness!
For me, working with AutoCad and different circuit diagram, flow charts and boring stuff like that all day long, its a joy to see these exreemly detaild hand drawn mechanical sketches and exploded view drawings. An art form long gone =(
Truly it is.
My favorite Hordak. Thanks for not cutting the corner on the vac-metal. I will keep him in package indefinitely.
Just make sure he doesn't eat after midnight.
Ah. This explains the Millennium Minted C-3PO and the wacky issues all 3 of mine have. I appreciate the info. 🐸👍
Yup. There you go
You made the right decision with hte Vac-Metal, easy. The figure was already so simliar to regular Hordak that you really did need anything to make it feel different and worth the full price, and making it 'just like the orignal' and more importantly - REALLY shiny - sure helped :D
Glad we did. He came out well
Great video, very informative
Well nice. That is the goal
Yet another great video! Thanks again and also your hint for the next video cracked me up lol... I knew right away who it was and look forward to hearing if the guys had intentionally made him look like Val. Have a great day and can't wait to see your next post. 😊👍
I did wonder if people are staying until the end for those bonus joke and previews! Awesome.
@@spectorcreative1872 lol... All the time. I can't remember the order they all came out in so it's always a treat to try and figure it out.
The ideas you come up with for these videos are just awesome! That along with the insider type info you have and give, for me makes this channel just incredible! Great video 👍👍
I'm thrilled you enjoy. Any suggestions for topics is always appreciated, as is sharing these on social media. It helps the channel a ton!
@@spectorcreative1872 I don't use Facebook, but I've been wanting to start an instagram. When I do, I will definitely share it out! I'll try to think of ideas, but any I could come up with wouldnt compare to the ideas you come up with.
I loved all the attachments being reissued in Trap Jaw Colors. I never realized how I needed more parts for Trap Jaw until I had them.
A sign of a good toy!
Thanks very much. You're probably the most positive thing i get notifications about nowadays.
I found a hordak with shiny armor a couple of years after all my motu stuff was gone, at a garage sale. Had i had the foresigh...
Well that is awesome. I am so grateful for all your positive comments!
@@spectorcreative1872 give credit where credit is due my friend. Motu was a great body of work through out the years. Still is. motu is different for a lot of people but the same for everyone that understands it. In many ways. True American art for sure, given the history and concepts, and especialy the materials and science involved. Honestly amazing. There should be a mattel museum. It's not that it was a money making monster and that's awesome for everyone anyway. But it is in fact a success for the impact on people on a personal level. I see most fans receive each other naturally in conversation when motu comes up, like being in a club or something. Similar principles align and it's really cool.
@@spectorcreative1872 crazy, like motu is bigger than it's own brand.
hey I got this in the mail with a bunch of others yesterday good timing.
I actually timed it just for you!
Very nifty video! Thank you!
Nifty is my #1 goal!
Love the design history of it. Have you considered doing a video comparing the crossbows of the various Horde members, since so many have unique ones for the classics line?
That would make an interesting video. I'll look into it!
I’d not appreciated how nice this figure looked... not least because of the Hordak head-sculpt, which I think just may be my favourite ever MOTUC portrait
It did come out nice. The Horsemen are amazing
Thanks for doing this very informative video sir! I love vac-metal & it was part of what made toys back in the 80s so awesome! I am consistently amazed how well & fun you make all aspects of toy making! When they did that to some of the GI Joe vehicles it was both sweet & over the top. And knowing is 1/2 the battle...
But what is the other half?
@@spectorcreative1872 According to some 25% red lasers & 25% blue lasers...
Well now I want to see the Flying Fists He-Man video to hear why it was decided not to vac metalize that figure after this one got it.
We will get to him! Going in release order.
A while back, I found out about Molotow Liquid Chrome pens. Bought a couple to try, and if you're careful and let them dry for a week or so, they give you a wonderful chrome-y finish. Next time I'm back home, I'd like to try it out on FF He-Man.
Very informative Scott, top stuff. by your current speed, you will be done with Classics reviews this year.
Yeah, I may need to slow down or I will run out of things to do videos on!
Hurricane Hordak was the last figure I added to my Classics collection, sort of as an afterthought. Glad I did!
Over time, I've developed a fear of vac-metal finishing on toys. I've had many figures, such as Power Rangers and Beast Wars, where they shed their chrome not from wear and tear, but from just sitting on the shelf. Oddly, I have Micronauts toys that are like 40 years old where the chrome is still positively pristine.
Wow, I have a fear of vac metal too. Only it is usually chasing me over a cliff for some reason.
@@spectorcreative1872 I suppose "apprehension" would have been a better word, haaaa 😂
I always liked buzzsaw hordak. Was happy to get that classic pickup at a good price secondary market.
I think Classics is going to keep improving with time. You just can't beat it!
Truly enjoy this Channel. Hordak is one my favourite. I like the He-man version better then the She-ra one. I think had 2002 go on he would have been way more loved by lots more people.
Glad to hear it! Any help sharing videos online is most appreciated!
Lurv the star splash adverting the 🦴-us!
& I don't care that that reads a bit weird...
...also, dug your explanation; coming from
an upper-layman to us a-v-gs, it comes across
clean. Process seems simpler than say
chroming a bumper etc....
Awesome. I am glad the video worked so well.
Cool! I ordered this figure from the US a month ago. It finally shipped two weeks ago so hopefully it's not too long in getting here!
God Speed Hordak Variant!
Excellent call going with vacmetal
Glad it was appreciated!
I remember the vac metal swords that came in old Lego sets in the '90s. There was this knight with a bat winged helmet that had a cool chromed sword and was packed with a black dragon. I chipped the hell out of the vac metal from clipping the sword in and out of the minifig's hands over and over. xD
Random thought: Your end card (?) music sting could stand to be a few decibels quieter. Not sure if it's because I'm using ear buds but it's _noticeably_ louder than your normal talking volume in the rest of the video.
Thanks for that feedback, I will lower it going forward!
Wow, I had a totally different idea about what vac metal was! I assumed it was done kind of like vacuum forming. Instead, it's something way cooler! XD
Glad to shed some light!
I assumed Vac Metal had something to do with vacuums, now I know it's evaporated metal.
And you can't get Mono from as monorail.
@@spectorcreative1872 you can if you do it right
Will Super7 ever make these again with updated accessories and head sculpts for Ultimates? They started and then gave up
At this point Mattel has taken the license back and they get first pass of refusal with MOTU until 2023.
Hey big guy good morning. That a good looking figure and I like the drawing of the arm. I am a artist. You always have a professional video and no cussing for the family and young people in church. Thank u big guy. I can not wait to get a hero figure. You and ur family have a good day god bless
Maybe they will make He-Ro in Origins!
@@spectorcreative1872 hopefully big guy. Be happy today
I loved the arm canon on this figure, I wished that the horseman could have sculpted the original Hordak with a removable right or left glove and this arm canon could have been removable at the elbow. Would have made for some awesome kit bashing. Was that ever a consideration with design? Don’t get me wrong I appreciated the full arm we got later with blue hordak but being able to bend at the elbow would have been awesome. Oh well hindsight is 2020
I've seen some nifty customs that've used Hurricane Hordak's forearm piece on either arm. I think they just did a standard boil-and-pop on them.
And hey maybe an Origins Hordak will be done like this!
I LOVE the subtle shade thrown at the trash Disney SW sequels!! :)
What do you mean by subtle?
@@spectorcreative1872 Haha! :)
I hope one day the National Weather Service will name a real storm Hurricane Hordak.
Vac-Metal is great when it's new and shiny, but man when it's near an articulation point or is simply coated over a less accepting surface it's a nightmare. Beast Wars Transmetals are notorious for flaking almost completely bare. C-3PO indeed holds up great.
I've seen complaints about Classics Hurricane Hordak, but I saw more collectors complain about the decorative flick wheel on the back.
Yeah that C-3PO is really the gold standard for Vac metal, no pun intended
I don't know why... It was in the spirit of the original.
Ev1 knew there weren't going to be any action features...
(Unless they were passive - SCAREGL💀W!!)
Hordak 2024!
He has already declared
I think you mean substrate not sub state? Although I'm surprised to find out it was real metal, I had the original figure and just assumed it was a painted coating
Yup, it be real!
Who can stop the Master of Disaster? Hurricane Hordak!
Thé Hulk?
@@spectorcreative1872 from 1986 commercial
I must be an oddball. I'm not really that crazy about Vac Metal stuff. Even as a kid, it struck me as being a little more delicate than regular plastic.
That said, I did really like my shiney C3-P0 back in the early 80s.
It was the gold standard. No pun intended
I might be in the minority here, but I actually prefer the Metallic Gold Paint to the Vac Metal. I'd always hoped we would get a accessory pack with it included so I could switch it out.
Good to know! It is always a tough call!
I never liked Hurricane Hordak. Skeletor can get away with gold (God Skeletor), but it never looked right on Hordak.
Flaking was also an issue on all my Hurricane Hordaks. I have 3 or 4 (I bought multiple subs to support the line).
I was always in the "No vac-metal camp". I never needed every little thing replicated because "muh nostalgia".
I will say the absolute best thing about Hurricane Hordak is the ability to cannibalize him for parts.
The glossy black on his cowl is superior to the dingy silver on the original release. No stiff cape also allows for more posing.
So I put the capeless cowl on three of my regular Hordaks. It's such a simple change, but it makes the original release Hordak one if my favorite figures.
I also removed one of the cannon arms from a Hurricane Hordak and put it on a regular Hordak to create a sort of ghetto version of Filmation Hordak. It also gives you a Hurricane Hordak with non flaking black armor instead of that garrish gold armor.
So overall not a big fan of Hurricane Hordak but he does allow you to create some much better versions.
I'll take that as a win.
Well for your huge support of the line (multiple subs!) thank you!!!
Now Hordak whips up triple trouble: it’s Hurricane Hordak with his sky chopper! His thunderbolt mace bashes, bashes, bashes! You’re next bone face, come and get me. His bat blades smashes, smashes, smashes. Can anyone, can anything, stop the master of disaster, Hurricane Hordak! New from the Masters Of The Universe, action figures sold separately from Mattel.
Oh dear
@@spectorcreative1872 ha!
I have to admit, the Hordak variations are probably my least favorites of all the main character variations. Not because they weren't done excellently for what they were, but because they're not much different from the standard Hordak. Great idea to make the attachments universal though.
That was a hassle, but worth it in the end.
I agree with you about Hordak. I never had Hurricane as a kid, but I did have Buzz Saw. He was basically no different except for the gimmick.
I'm glad you didn't backpedal on the vac-metal.
I'm sorry. I'm very sorry.
I don;t even know how to pedal backwards. I can barely pedal forwards
got him from BL as well, not as spectacular as Matty Hordak, but he's good enough, he looks awesome in my Horde display..
And that is his ideal point!
I know this is a random question but why do toy companies like Hasbro always gravitate towards making Plastic capes for toys instead of cloth capes? I absolutely hate the plastic capes Hasbro dose on the star wars black series and marvel legends more than anything, they are not even executed well and always fall off figures and don't stay on, they get in the way of some features. An example of this would be Moff Giddeon, Directer Krennect, Marvel legends black knight, Rise of Skywalker/ Last Jedi Kylo Ren, they just pop off and don't stay on at all. Also, the Mandalorian's beskar cape gets in the way of the Jet pack where you can really utilize the cape and jet pack at the same time, also figures can't sit while wearing the plastic capes. Are plastic capes cheaper to make than cloth capes? I noticed that toy companies are using the cloth alot less. I just absolutely hate the plastic capes with a passion, it's one of the most frustrating things I encounter when collecting. I just don't really understand the point of using plastic capes instead of cloth unless if its a way to cut down on costs
A very good question and their isn't one direct universal answer. It is usually based on the judgement of the toy designer for a particular figure
i could have SWORN he had a push button to spin the weapons!
its so weird how you remember things as a kid wrong - maybe i did have a push-button spinning toy and my memories got crossed
Maybe. But yeah, a dial it was for this one
Vac plating is cheap as free. That’s why it’s appalling that they refused to vac chrome Cobra Commanders faceplate in the 25th anniversary line until after fans complained, and they’d already done 9 painted versions
Cheap yes scratches off quickly sometimes, also yes
@@spectorcreative1872 I don’t think kids buy gi joe and I doubt most adult fans plan on doing that much playing with thier Cobra Commander 35th anniversary fig, with gold leaf embossing on the packet, lol. I think the most prevalent issue is fading, like with transformers g1 accessories. (Which they did do properly in re issues.) Theyre currently making Cobra troopers with painted face shields, these figs are $35 at Target only andresell for $130 on ebay. I don’t think any of the customers are worried about the fragility of the face paint app. They want it to look better.
I love all these MOTU universe, figs, I have most of them. It’s really nice hearing the production stories. I like Thunder Punch Heman classic too, he’s got some beautiful chrome apps on the chestplate. Why didn’t Classics Cobra Khan spit water? I really liked the Sludgehead figure, he sits near my sink so I can refill him, and in case of leaks, but so far so good. Why didn’t they make a much larger second run if Scareglows? Why do they keep acting like that figure doesn’t need it’s own separate case assortment? Even in the 2020 line, lol, brain dead execs!
A shame we never got a battle armor Hordak.
Would ha e been cool
Wow so thats whats it called vac-metal
Yups.
hordaks claw is just maximilians claw, nasty!
From a certain point of view
While on the subject of materials, why on gods earth did you guys use such stiff and hard plastic on the capes and loin cloths????? It made the articulation use extremely difficult and or pointless on some/most figures. I.e King Randors cape made it impossible for him to sit with his cape on and the stiff loin cloths/skirts made leg poses difficult or impossible. Why didn't Mattel use pliable materials on the loin cloths/capes or even optional soft goods on the capes as well?
It was usually safety issues
METAL HEAD!!!!!’m
In a way..
@RollRick you talkin' bout the
🤖🐢? I must say, 1 o'my Favorite
TMNT figs! Partly because of the
🧠/👀 light effect...
@Spector Creative it’s getting old very quickly…
Clearly
Smh Hec Tor Kur
Yup
@@spectorcreative1872 as a real name for Hordak, I never cared for Hec Tor Kur. Instead, in my personal canon Hec Tor Kur was a Gar that Keldor tricked into becoming a vessel for Hordak's spirit to possess, explaining why Filmation Hordak was blue.
@@spectorcreative1872 I like Hec Tor Kur. It has an egyptian sound to it. Helps make Hordak feel ancient.
No commentary on the severe pushback the 4H received over the stupid ugly non functioning dial they placed on Hurricane Hordak?
They rightfully received a ton of criticism and hate for that asinine move. The dial was cute on Syklone because it was small and unobtrusive. Same for Optik.
It was beyond stupid on Hurricane Hordak.
Oh well I guess I covered the concept on Sy Klone that it wasn't needed but perhaps a follow up is in order
I thought it was cool. Shrug.