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Great stuff, thanks for uploading. Two writers at opposite ends of the spectrum: one obsessed with style and the other obsessed with plot and narrative. Never thought I would see the two in a room together. Fascinating.
Both are great stylists. Far from caring about narrative, Leonard famously said his plots just came along. He once forgot to put a crime into a book. He was into dialogue, rhythms of speech, and how sound reveals character. He and Martin actually make a very complementary pairing.
Amis responds to the question of aging with a big abstract answer - death. Sorry, DEATH. Leonard’s answer is “a big prostate” - specific, concrete, comical.
The irony when Charlie laughs at Martin's remark about love improving sex. Charlie's like, "pffhaha are you serious? Love makes sex better?! Tell that to the so and so I groped this morning"
@goblancas Right, he and his brother were too young to have even experienced sex, but they're really looking forward to it because of all the media hype, so when their father tells them of the importance of love they can only (mis)interpret it to mean it improves sex. On a side note, the above comment shows that a man can't say anything about sex without being accused of being a sexist/pervert by a simpleton.
I do wonder if Martin spotted a niche in the market and aimed his novels about the lower classes to amuse and entertain the upper classes. I have enjoyed reading all of his books, even though he is well behaved.
At the way his words come out in a stylized fashion - he was supposed to be the interviewer but contrasted to Leonard (who is amazing but writes in common speech) Amis sounds more of an author than Leonard
The good old days when Human Centipede was yet unthought of and the poetry of salesmanship was instrinsinc in the language and grammar of a non-bloviating revealer: as one would understand from the smoke that wafts of the burning candle when one works as one does in such a WOUNDING logo that could be place, posthumous upon a bird that drives a dialogue and shift back into momento exemptimento......AND MY ARSE.
I’ve watched so many of these interviews and enjoyed them all but since I found out Charlie Rose is a creep to women the interviews have lost their charm.
Also it isn't true. A lot of poetry actually speeds time up. Baudelaire, Eliot, the symbolists, the imagists, Ashbery, a lot of the Americans. Ginsburg is "fast," a lot of african-american poetry is fast, Gwendolyn Brooks is fast. Shakespeare. I think he just means poetry doesn't have plot. He mentions Henry James -- I can't imagine any literature, poetry or prose, moving more slowly than James.
Pardon my ignorance but until now I hadn't known who Martin Amis was. And now that I'm only halfway through this interview, Charlie asks questions that I would love to hear Elmore Leonard answer rather than be subjected to having to listen to that English fellow. Not going to run right out to get a book by him that's for sure. Can't wait to get to the library to check out a lot of Elmore Leonard's books.
If screwing the pooch deserves an endless definition in Tantalus's Bible (the closest thing to real Heaven), I'm pretty sure, like, it's gonna be, the dictionary written . . .
O.K., Martin gets a pass, one time. God, I always have an image of him reading his work and rolling in the floor rug, looking at himself in the mirror, giggling. Hitchens? Meh.
You always imagined God rolling around in the floor rug, looking at himself in the mirror, giggling. Whilst Christopher Hitchens looks on and thinks 'Meh'.
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Great stuff, thanks for uploading. Two writers at opposite ends of the spectrum: one obsessed with style and the other obsessed with plot and narrative. Never thought I would see the two in a room together. Fascinating.
Really? Which is which? I'd argue that they're both obsessed with style.
amis style, leonard narrative
Both are great stylists. Far from caring about narrative, Leonard famously said his plots just came along. He once forgot to put a crime into a book. He was into dialogue, rhythms of speech, and how sound reveals character. He and Martin actually make a very complementary pairing.
Love it. These guys are for real. They know how to write a sentence.
They should, being writers
With unashamed intellect martin Amis masks his fear.
The most marvellous interview. A timeless masterpieces
“If it sounds like writing, I rewrite it” -Leonard
Not Always a good advice for everyone, That's Just the style he borrowed from Hemingway, it's shouldn't be mandatory...
@@cougar231000 Fuck off.
thank you for the post - just finishing. good training for the writers; or perhaps for those who cannot but write. Amis: "you write 'til you drop."
Martin Amis is such a classy man. His conduct always amazes me. I bet he would be a great actor also.
Withnail and I talk about M. Amis’s latest book in the remainder stack.
Amis responds to the question of aging with a big abstract answer - death. Sorry, DEATH.
Leonard’s answer is “a big prostate” - specific, concrete, comical.
may they both rest in peace great authors
Amis is a BOSS!
The irony when Charlie laughs at Martin's remark about love improving sex. Charlie's like, "pffhaha are you serious? Love makes sex better?! Tell that to the so and so I groped this morning"
@goblancas Right, he and his brother were too young to have even experienced sex, but they're really looking forward to it because of all the media hype, so when their father tells them of the importance of love they can only (mis)interpret it to mean it improves sex. On a side note, the above comment shows that a man can't say anything about sex without being accused of being a sexist/pervert by a simpleton.
I love the way Amis cited Kurt Vonnegut, Saul Bellow and Elmore Leonard as great US authors instead of the usual boring examples.
Which ones?
I do wonder if Martin spotted a niche in the market and aimed his novels about the lower classes to amuse and entertain the upper classes. I have enjoyed reading all of his books, even though he is well behaved.
Anthony Perry Threw London Fields down a rubbish shute
I doubt he cares. Very little of his fiction is about the working class (not ‘lower class’).
Keith Talent’s pretty working class. Not that he actually works.
What is the genre of these guy's works?
I don't get the joke at 1:03. Are they laughing about Martin Amis's ability to always have the right words?
At the way his words come out in a stylized fashion - he was supposed to be the interviewer but contrasted to Leonard (who is amazing but writes in common speech) Amis sounds more of an author than Leonard
Who is Andrew Wiley?
Top literary agent. Nicknamed 'The Jackal'. He represents Martin Amis.
Indians should see how they respect each other. Pure play of intellect.
30 sec in. You are correct. O & O
Martin Amis is like if Nabokov and Beckett had a kid
The good old days when Human Centipede was yet unthought of and the poetry of salesmanship was instrinsinc in the language and grammar of a non-bloviating revealer: as one would understand from the smoke that wafts of the burning candle when one works as one does in such a WOUNDING logo that could be place, posthumous upon a bird that drives a dialogue and shift back into momento exemptimento......AND MY ARSE.
LMAO "My dad was a poet and novelist..."
Interviewer: What's the worst thing about getting older?
Martin Amis: Getting closer to death, I'd say.
Is Leonard Eric Clapton's long lost Father?
rose is not needed in this exchange
When I used to watch the Charlie Rose show, every time I’d wish he’d shut up and just let the truly interesting person speak.
Rose is never needed
Is he behind bars now? That exhibitionist old predator should have been prosecuted as well as defrocked.
@evanhaning1552 calm down young lady
The lack of care for another human being is an abusive state.
Long winded monologues are a perfect example of writing that looks like writing.
I’ve watched so many of these interviews and enjoyed them all but since I found out Charlie Rose is a creep to women the interviews have lost their charm.
Charlie Rose put the moves on their children.
"You like to read."
Thanks for that, Charlie.
Go back to Texas and cook some ribs.
Not long enough for me.....
The real question remains... Was Charlie wearing pants during this?
Rose needs to talk less
I am surprised Amis was so defensive. He contradicted himself about slowing things down, and sayo=ing hes not good at slowing things down.
Also it isn't true. A lot of poetry actually speeds time up. Baudelaire, Eliot, the symbolists, the imagists, Ashbery, a lot of the Americans. Ginsburg is "fast," a lot of african-american poetry is fast, Gwendolyn Brooks is fast. Shakespeare. I think he just means poetry doesn't have plot. He mentions Henry James -- I can't imagine any literature, poetry or prose, moving more slowly than James.
Pardon my ignorance but until now I hadn't known who Martin Amis was. And now that I'm only halfway through this interview, Charlie asks questions that I would love to hear Elmore Leonard answer rather than be subjected to having to listen to that English fellow. Not going to run right out to get a book by him that's for sure. Can't wait to get to the library to check out a lot of Elmore Leonard's books.
They are pretty much opposites. That's why this interview works. You certainly don't need to enjoy either.
You seem like an ignorant xenophobe fyi
Genius, squared
If screwing the pooch deserves an endless definition in Tantalus's Bible (the closest thing to real Heaven), I'm pretty sure, like, it's gonna be, the dictionary written . . .
He didn't hate his parents for naming him Elmore?
O.K., Martin gets a pass, one time. God, I always have an image of him reading his work and rolling in the floor rug, looking at himself in the mirror, giggling. Hitchens? Meh.
You always imagined God rolling around in the floor rug, looking at himself in the mirror, giggling. Whilst Christopher Hitchens looks on and thinks 'Meh'.