AMD Athlon 64 4000+ for Socket 939

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 491

  • @stevenwilliams6638
    @stevenwilliams6638 4 роки тому +175

    This is why I like this channel so much.
    Every other Tech tube channel.: BLACK FRIDAY!!!!.. 🙄
    This channel "let's have a look back at some old school tech"
    Great stuff man great work.

  • @michaeldale837
    @michaeldale837 4 роки тому +39

    When AMD & ATi were different companies!

  • @MrLense
    @MrLense 4 роки тому +50

    Every other techtuber: AMDs brand new w3950x w3960x!
    Phil: AMD 64 4000!
    Don't ever change phil!

    • @catriona_drummond
      @catriona_drummond 4 роки тому +2

      It is a very very welcome distraction from the current Ryzen and Threadripper hype. I am sick of these enthusiastic videos from excited youtubers who are oblivious to the fact that 99% of their audience don't do hours of video rendering every day.

    • @EyDerVu
      @EyDerVu 4 роки тому

      ​@@catriona_drummond Not as sick as I am of stale processor developement before Ryzen came in.

    • @UltimateAlgorithm
      @UltimateAlgorithm 4 роки тому

      @@catriona_drummond Ryzen is a good CPU, especially Zen 2 microarchitecture. They're really interesting and not a distraction.

    • @catriona_drummond
      @catriona_drummond 4 роки тому

      @@UltimateAlgorithm look I know that, I am just tired af from seeing videos about how great Ryzen every single day for months now.
      Also I said the video is a nice distraction, not that Ryzen was.

    • @UltimateAlgorithm
      @UltimateAlgorithm 4 роки тому

      @@catriona_drummond yeah I agree, there's a lot of coverage. But I think people is just really exited that AMD now on par, or even surpassing Intel.

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 4 роки тому +42

    Just used an old x2 4600+ with 4GB and an SSD to temporarily replace my dad's wrecked i5 system-- with his GPU in it it still ran Crysis 2 in 1080p like a dream!

    • @randymiracle4958
      @randymiracle4958 4 роки тому +2

      That's pretty darn impressive 👍

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 роки тому +1

      I'm sitting with low spec machine, which has Athlon X4 870K, 4GB RAM and GTX 650 Ti. Runs older games with maxed out settings at hundreds of fps.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 роки тому

      Definitely not, it's FM2+ socket CPU. I built this PC from leftovers and from clearance discount parts. Still great result for GTX 650 Ti, which was weak since the day I bought it. I'm actually more surprised that this PC doesn't have stupid compatibility errors or some crap like that. I use this thing for more than games and I found ways to use it like power user. It can multitask well and have all tabs opened in web browser, as long as Pale Moon is used. I'm surprised that everything works fine with 4gigs of ram, which people see as inadequate. Sure, this PC wouldn't run latest AAA games, but it actually can max out Yakuza 0 at 1080p and despite bad coding from Sega, it keeps fps at 60 or more. That's really cool. I also have latest Simcity and it runs perfectly fine at 60 fps. When I was buying cheap parts for this thing, I was planning to run Windows XP on it and it ran.

    • @nathanielbolden5053
      @nathanielbolden5053 4 роки тому

      I wanna upgrade my socket 939MB for X-fire anyone got any ideas?

    • @interlace84
      @interlace84 4 роки тому

      @@nathanielbolden5053 my 2005 sli rig had an Asus A8N-SLI, which I can recommend if you can find one cheap. also has plenty sata and IDE/PATA connections.

  • @reallybigmistake
    @reallybigmistake 2 роки тому +14

    1:27 indeed the Athlon 64 4000+ CPU cost 729 bucks when it came out but in late 2005 the CPU got discounted to something like 350 dollars. I remember a friend of mine paying full price but I knew that dual core CPUs would be coming out in mid or late 2005 so I correctly predicted there would be a massive price cut and I was right. As soon as I saw this video I contacted my friend (we are still friends after 20 plus years) and we had a good laugh at this. Thanks for the video Phil

  • @ccleorina
    @ccleorina 4 роки тому +13

    Athlon 64 4000+ and MSI k8n neo2 platinum + XFX 7600GS AGP was my first PC build with my own money back in old days... still keeping the CPU and Motherboard and working condition but sadly 7600GS die... Great vid btw... long all your retro parts review... Keep it up...

  • @Inject0r
    @Inject0r 4 роки тому +9

    Those were the days! My A64 3700+ San Diego on a MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum with 2gb of PC3200 memory and an X1900XT was completely awesome. Never had a more stable build than that. I'm still regretting the fact that I sold it as a perfectly working Hackintosh... 🤐

  • @manaphylv100
    @manaphylv100 4 роки тому +8

    I had an Opteron 150 back then, which was exactly the same as the 4000+, at about half the price. I got it because I couldn't afford the 4000+, and didn't want to settle for a lower model like the 3200+ because it had many different core revisions (89W CG w/o SSE3, 67W D0 w/o SSE3, 67W E3/E4/E6 with SSE3, and a rebranded Opteron 146 with 1 MB cache) and you never knew which one you were getting - it was "silicon lottery" in the most literal sense.
    I overclocked it to 3 GHz, and it beat every P4, including the ludicrously expensive 3.73 GHz EE and even some of the Pentium Ds that came out afterward.
    There was also an obscure model called Opteron 156 that ran at 3 GHz out of the box, but good luck finding one...

  • @Boopop1024
    @Boopop1024 4 роки тому +6

    That's the motherboard I had for my A64 build! What a beast! Loved the PCI-E and AGP, very helpful as a teenager when I couldn't upgrade it all at once.

  • @aa_sharpshooter
    @aa_sharpshooter 4 роки тому +9

    As much as I love using the new hardware today, I LOVE seeing the older hardware. My favorite GPUs back then were the X850 XT Platinum, X700 Pro and 7950 GX2. I also loved the Intel P4 HT and AMD FX line. One day I'm going to collect all my favorite GPUs. My first GPU I owned was the ATi Radeon 9800 XT. What a time it was.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 роки тому

      The X850 XT PE is indeed a really cool graphics card!

  • @adz929
    @adz929 4 роки тому +19

    I still have my original 4000+ from back in the day, I paired it with an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe and a 6800GT, the GPU I still have, the motherboard went the way of the Dodo years ago. I did acquire a Gigabyte nForce4 board recently so who knows, I might rebuild the system at some point.

    • @adz929
      @adz929 4 роки тому

      @Dalle Smalhals But it had Deluxe in the name 😋 TBH, I can't even recall how it died.

  • @AG-pm3tc
    @AG-pm3tc 4 роки тому +3

    I drooled over these and the FX one's back in the day

    • @Wakanda.Knuckles
      @Wakanda.Knuckles 4 роки тому +1

      Me too (I was stuck with Celeron D with IGP)

  • @GenLinkzCnC
    @GenLinkzCnC 4 роки тому +4

    You just built my teenage years computer. Except I had a Nvidia graphics card. I chose the 939 dual because I couldn't afford a new fangled pci card until later and knew I'd want to upgrade in a year or two. Wow a blast from the past.

  • @francescomengoli6994
    @francescomengoli6994 4 роки тому +15

    This is what the 3950X is going to be in 15 years :)

    • @UltimateAlgorithm
      @UltimateAlgorithm 4 роки тому

      True, almost the same price at launch. 3950X is more expensive at 750 USD, but actually cheaper if you consider inflation.

    • @chrisplissken4626
      @chrisplissken4626 4 роки тому +2

      11years from now: let's see how the 3900x thread ripper with the old 2080ti run today in this new retro build xD

    • @oztk5673
      @oztk5673 4 роки тому +1

      i don't think it will be obsolete by then since they've reached 7nm process so that means there wouldn't be much jumps in performance in the future on both CPUS and gpus

  • @theoldpainless4456
    @theoldpainless4456 4 роки тому +8

    haha...i have this EXACT mobo but will make it a win98 gaming machine with a 3200+ (inspired by an old video of yours)...so glad i kept all my old pcs...i love your channel man! keep the good work

  • @alecjahn
    @alecjahn 4 роки тому +1

    I skipped 754 and 939 myself, only because I couldn't afford it quite yet. Two of my good friends did upgrade around that time, though, and I was able to help them with their builds and was thoroughly happy with their machines. I finally upgraded from Athlon XP to an AM2, an Athlon 5600+ which carried me a long time (until Phenom II) and was a fantastic overclocker as well.

  • @loremipsumdolor1444
    @loremipsumdolor1444 4 роки тому +8

    I remember my Athlon 3500+. It was beast.

    • @theduderski2848
      @theduderski2848 4 роки тому

      Skipped the entire dual core era with that chip, felt no need to upgrade till I got my hands on an i7 920

  • @oscarc6210
    @oscarc6210 4 роки тому +26

    Nice motherboard! Maybe a "AGP versus PCIe graphics card competition" for future videos?

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 4 роки тому +2

      I remember the forum arguments. :D I had a Sapphire X1950Pro 512MB AGP and regularly obtained better results than tech sites which were using the PCIe equivalent, probably because my mbd was running with a decent 6000+. I did upgrade eventually though, to an 8800GT, and that was quite a bump.

    • @Fl0yt
      @Fl0yt 4 роки тому

      @@mapesdhs597 Its imposible to have better results in this compare because you have better CPU, unless your PCIe card is seriously bottlenecked.
      There is gigantic difference in bandwith in AGP vs PCIe (even gen1) and there is seriously nothing to compare. PCIe gen 1 is over 2x faster. Not to mention much higer power delievery, and full duplex. AGP at release of PCIe was already seriously inferior, and outdated.

    • @zarkeh3013
      @zarkeh3013 4 роки тому

      I'm not sure but, I think this mainboard had a slow AGP implementation. Kinda curious if those rows of jumpers are related... meh, if it's the UMC chipsets I'm thinking about anyway.

    • @oscarc6210
      @oscarc6210 4 роки тому

      ​@@zarkeh3013 This chipset from ULI was exceptional, with full and simultaneous AGP 8x and PCIe

    • @RuruFIN
      @RuruFIN 4 роки тому +1

      @@zarkeh3013 The Intel equivalent 775Dual-VSTA had a PCIe x4, this has both full speed AGP8x and PCIe x16 :)

  • @kami4542
    @kami4542 4 роки тому +3

    The Athlon64 4000+ with the 939 Dual-SATA2 has always been my go to combo for Windows XP. :) Now I have the AM2 CPU board with a 6400+ @3.5GHz, a nice upgrade from the 4000+ :)
    This mobo is so good, so fast, so stable, never had issues with it :)

  • @malcolmogilvy4885
    @malcolmogilvy4885 Рік тому +1

    Totally love socket 939 builds there is something about that era and tech that just either worked or it never lol

  • @Bk_owns
    @Bk_owns 3 роки тому +1

    2004 was an amazing year man. I got my first gaming pc back then. I loved all those games you showed. Painkiller was also a damn good game that came out that year. And man did that 6800 ultra just breeze through games back then. I miss 2004 lol.

  • @welliben
    @welliben 4 роки тому +1

    I think the correct power profile for cool and quiet in XP is meant to be 'minimal power management' rather than portable/ laptop, although interesting to see that seems to work as well, although presumably if windows thinks its running on a laptop it might be a bit more thrifty with power. Nice vid!

  • @WouterVerbruggen
    @WouterVerbruggen 4 роки тому +2

    Nice. I've been playing around with its little brother, the 3800+, some time ago. The system, with an A8N32-SLI Dlx as a base, is now rocking the beast called FX-60

  • @PyleTeevee
    @PyleTeevee 4 роки тому +16

    my XP retro PC has 3800+ and Geforce 6800 ultra

  • @ihave7sacks
    @ihave7sacks 4 роки тому +14

    1:56, that could be a whole new series for you if you get some extra time.
    Fixing and or making stuff work again is a very popular genre.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +4

      How's Jeremy Fisher? I Haven't seen him since he was out fighting the Great War!

    • @ihave7sacks
      @ihave7sacks 4 роки тому +4

      @@MarcoGPUtuber he is decomposing in the lunchbox, but he's fine.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +3

      @@ihave7sacks Ah very good. And Hubert Cumberdale? Still tasting like Soot and Poo?

    • @matthewplehn4271
      @matthewplehn4271 4 роки тому

      It is....I watch a lot of retro channels that feature the youtuber fixing or repairing old hardware, but mostly OLDER hardware, like pre-1990..mostly from 1980-1988

  • @simmysims9209
    @simmysims9209 4 роки тому +5

    I was working in computer store and we sold custom pc's. I recommended Athlon as best bang for the buck but most of the people wanted a "real" Pentium.

    • @ruxandy
      @ruxandy 4 роки тому +1

      Athlon 64 wasn’t the best bang for the buck, it was the best, period. :)

    • @Kynareth6
      @Kynareth6 2 роки тому

      :-(

  • @directionlessstudios7210
    @directionlessstudios7210 4 роки тому +2

    Great video full of nice nostalgic feels. :) My first Athlon 64 was probably the socket 754 2800+ but now have lots of the later Athlon chips - mostly on AM2 boards. 939 is really uncommon now. Makes it special. :)

  • @pc-sound-legacy
    @pc-sound-legacy 4 роки тому +5

    I like the 939 Athlons. They were superior to Pentium 4 withe their low latency high speed memory controller and, last but not least, AMDs Cool'n Quiet technology. Have had a 3500+ for a very long time. Thanks for the memories, Phil!

  • @David83151
    @David83151 4 роки тому +1

    I still have my Asus a8n-sli-premium with an opteron 165. Many people were able to get incredible overclocks with the processor, but I was only able to hit 2.7ghz with an overvolt. I decided to turn it around and was able to undervolt the CPU and still run 2.6ghz. It was the first computer I ever built and I still love it.

  • @ching-chenhuang8119
    @ching-chenhuang8119 4 роки тому +1

    I remember back in late 2004, I assembled a PC with the combination of Athlon64 3500 CPU (2.2Ghz) and Geforce 6800GT, damn that was awesome!! It cost me a lot, yet it's worth every penny. It ran so smooth with Far Cry, Half Life 2, Doom 3, Quake 4, and this PC even supported me in my homework!! Back then I enrolled in a class which needed quite a lot of computational power to simulate and analyze network flows, while most people only owned laptop computers, I had this powerful machine to get the job done faster than other people!!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 роки тому

      The golden days for PC Gaming! Those games right there...

  • @kennyj4366
    @kennyj4366 4 роки тому +1

    That was so cool, thank you for the peek into yesterday. You motivated me for my next build .ty.🙂👍👍

  • @FOIL_FRESH
    @FOIL_FRESH 4 роки тому +5

    although i never had one, i chose the parts and built a nice system with an athlon 64 for a friend, first time using dual channel memory not realising what slots to put them in. i freaked and thought i killed it. a little while later i figured it out from the manual and it was great to see windows xp 64 bit for the first time. and counterstrike never looked so smooth!

  • @melvis007
    @melvis007 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! Brought back memories of my old 939 days. Hey Im an Aussie and back then I had a 3700+ san diego and then upgraded it to a FX-57 the yr after for only $175 as the Ebay listing was advertised incorrectly as a 3500+ haha so got a bargin! anyway hit me up if you need to do a review on the FX-57 as I still have it here in my original system I put together all those yrs ago on a GB-K8NF-9 Ultra Mobo with 2GB DDR500 RAM.

  • @morantaylor
    @morantaylor 4 роки тому +1

    I had the Athlon 64 3200 using a Geforce 6800GT and an SB Audigy 2 sound card. Later on the CPU was upgraded to the Athlon 64 X2 3800. My brother still has this system in his garage!

  • @MedicatedOMO
    @MedicatedOMO 4 роки тому

    I still have my old 4800+. She rocks for her age. Retired.

  • @rebeccaschade3987
    @rebeccaschade3987 4 роки тому +2

    I "only" used an Athlon 64 3700+ back then, but it was overclocked a bit. Paired with a GeForce 7800GT, it made for a great gaming and all-round experience for everything I did.

    • @rebeccaschade3987
      @rebeccaschade3987 4 роки тому

      @Dalle Smalhals 939. Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard.

    • @rebeccaschade3987
      @rebeccaschade3987 4 роки тому

      @Dalle Smalhals Because back then, with the price level here in Norway, it provided the best bang for the buck. I'm not talking about retro systems now, but my actual system back in the day. I still have the CPU, but I sent the motherboard and the graphics card to Phil years ago, but I dunno if they still work.

  • @ecmjr
    @ecmjr 4 роки тому +1

    Ahhhh... what memories! Thank you!!!

  • @emp.splash
    @emp.splash 4 роки тому

    I remember wanting one of these so bad, back in the day. But they were ridiculously expensive. Ended up getting an Athlon 64 X2 4000+ on the AM2 socket. Loved it to bits and kept it way past it's warranty.

  • @picchioknossus8096
    @picchioknossus8096 4 роки тому +1

    That processor was at the center of my first and only new computer I've ever bought (all the previous and after ones were all bought used). I was rocking it on an AM2 M2n4-sli with a single 1gb stick, geforce 8400GS and 250gb hard drive all for the beautiful amount of 400€.

  • @RANDOMNATION907
    @RANDOMNATION907 4 роки тому

    I had a 3800+ ..... loved it. Memories.

  • @r3claim3r
    @r3claim3r 4 роки тому +1

    The biggest problem with the 4000+ was the introduction of dual core X2 CPU's which made every single core CPU obsolete!

  • @DonPedro6901
    @DonPedro6901 4 роки тому +1

    Wow! I had this one since 2006 till 2014! 8 yrs running Windows MCE and Kubuntu 8 to 12.
    I replaced it against FX-6300. Still running and love it.
    Oh, I forgot that I still have Athlon64 5400 running 12 yrs in Computer of my son. Very seldom used lately but still ok.

  • @Panzergruppe22
    @Panzergruppe22 4 роки тому +25

    why the subtitle is Dutch auto-generated 😂
    the result is a mix of unrelated dutch words + english sentences lol

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 роки тому +9

      LOL

    • @HighwayHunkie
      @HighwayHunkie 4 роки тому +3

      Its like when you watch Victor Bart videos

    • @madmat2001
      @madmat2001 4 роки тому +3

      The auto generated subtitles are like that even when you're trying to get them in the language being spoken. And we're supposed to trust that Google's bots can spot legit issues with videos when they can't even generate proper subtitles.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 роки тому

      Imagine a deaf person thinking that Phil is going fuhrerous

    • @Trancelistic
      @Trancelistic 4 роки тому

      Change your country to english and your youtube account too.
      Its indeed very anoying.

  • @hjackson.92
    @hjackson.92 4 роки тому +1

    Phil, thanks for reminding me about Crysis and Far Cry - I saw excellent Black Friday deals on both games (and most of the Tomb Raider series, too)! Soon I'm going to see how well my Piledriver (and older systems) can handle those two games.

  • @RazgulTheKind
    @RazgulTheKind 4 роки тому +1

    My main PC had an athlon 64 x2 6000+ right up until 2015, the 3ghz clock speed carried it surprisingly far!

  • @Yorkfield2008FR
    @Yorkfield2008FR 3 роки тому +1

    The First Ever Video I Ever Seen On This Channel !

  • @game.different
    @game.different 4 роки тому +1

    I had an Athlon 64 3000+ in an Asus A8N5X, with an Nvidia 6600GT running Windows XP 64-bit. Contrary to most users' experience, it ran every program and game I threw at it. What I lusted after was the Athon X2 3800+. Never did get one, and jumped straight to a Q6600.

  • @mOddEdLiKeHeLL
    @mOddEdLiKeHeLL 4 роки тому

    I saw a socket 939 package online a few days ago. I decide to pick it up for a Retro XP build. The package included an Asus A8N-SLI Premium motherboard, Athlon 64 3800+, 4x1ghz Corsair XMS memory sticks, and what looks like the original Asus CPU fan/heatsink combo (big heavy copper heatsink with 2 pipes and fan that sits on a blue fan bracket). Everything was $26 shipped.
    Edit: and IO shield

  • @SiggyPony
    @SiggyPony 4 роки тому +7

    My favourite processor but I think was a bit newer was a Athlon X2 6000+

  • @directionlessstudios7210
    @directionlessstudios7210 4 роки тому +2

    Ryzen coolers on socket 939 - that’s cool!

  • @PlaidDin
    @PlaidDin 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, that's my dad's PC's processor. That thing powered my flash games and 2007 UA-cam - quite sluggishly, strangely enough. And now I know why that PC cost 1300 USD back in 2005. And he had all the games showcased in this video. (Far Cry, BF2, Half-Life 2, Doom 3, F.E.A.R.. still got the CD/DVDs :)
    Now I use that PC as my server, since it has one of those fancy Asus PCI-E SATA RAID mobos and 1 GB of RAM. Quite a rocket for the time.

  • @rs2klee
    @rs2klee 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, still got my AMD 64 X2 4600+ put the machine back together in its original case i bought back in the day, not got my Nvidia 6600GT no more tho but found an old AMD 7750, The main board is the GA-K8N Pro-SLI booting off sata with a small 30gb SSD :) was just to test see if if still worked and brought some good memories flooding back with my fave game Battlefield 2.

  • @sarno97
    @sarno97 4 роки тому +1

    Your videos always relaxing, nice

  • @RIFCHE23
    @RIFCHE23 4 роки тому +1

    I had this cpu from 2006 to 2010 to asus a8nsli socket 939 with 8gb ram ddr 1 400. And a radeon HD... Old memories was good processor. Replaced by phenom 2 X4 980. Was great.

  • @ProcessedDigitally
    @ProcessedDigitally 3 роки тому +1

    I still have this CPU in my CPU collection.

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh 4 роки тому

    ATI Radeon X850 XT
    .............that was the first GPU I ever bought with my own money and installed on my PC!!! brings back memories. I love PC gaming so much. early 2006 was a great year for me

  • @outtheredude
    @outtheredude 4 роки тому

    Between 2007 and 2011, the Athlon 64 4000+ Socket 939 (San Diego, Revision E6) CPU was my main processor, on an ECS Elitegroup nForce3-A939 motherboard (using the nForce3 250 chipset), running with a 2x1GB kit of Kingston HyperX KHX3200AK2/2G DDR 400 CL2 memory, a Sound Blaster Audigy SB0090, a 256MB MSI Radeon HD 2600 Pro passively cooled AGP card, and an Ageia PhysX PCI card. :-D

  • @marianistefanoj
    @marianistefanoj 4 роки тому

    This was a dream setup for those days, this motherboard was so nice, and the video card was a dream, would be nice see those s939 dfi lan party's motherboards back 😎

  • @Howch125
    @Howch125 4 роки тому

    I recently did a build around my x2 5000+, The fist processor I brought with money saved up from my first job after school. Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2P AM2+/AM3 Socket, Athlon 64 x2 5000+ (slightly overclocked to 2.8 GHZ), 4GB DDR2 800 and my trusty GTX 550 ti with Windows 7 64 bit for the operating system.

  • @irukhan07
    @irukhan07 4 роки тому +3

    NFS Most Wanted is one of my favs! NFS Carbon is another good one. The new NFSs have nothing on these older titles!

  • @NightMotorcyclist
    @NightMotorcyclist 4 роки тому

    After spending years on Socket A with my Athlon XP 2500+ I made the move to Socket 939 with an Athlon 64 3000+ and 1GB of DDR1. It was quite fast for a single core processor and all my games ran smoothly with the GPUs I had at the time: GeForce 4 Ti 4200 and GeForce 6600 GT. I had the MSI Neo3 motherboard for the first build on that platform then moving on to MSI Neo4 for a jump to PCIe in which I then paired the board with a dual core Opteron and GeForce 7900 GT.

  • @RCjesus.David.2581
    @RCjesus.David.2581 4 роки тому +1

    Back in the day I had a X850XT-PE AGP on my P4P800-VM, 2,4GHz P4 later upgraded to 3,4GHz Northwood. Later on the X850XT-PE was replaced by an X1950XT AGP, a nice Boost back then. In the second life of the system there was an Gainward BLISS 7800GS+ AGP 24PP installed, I got a bargain on the 7800GS+ and sold the X1950XT for a very good price. It used less space, was, if I remember right, using less power and ran almost equally to the X1950XT.

  • @2Plus2isChicken2013
    @2Plus2isChicken2013 3 роки тому

    I remember my first PC build was socket 939 but I used the dual core Athlon X2 3800+ with 2GB RAM and an eVGA 7600GT video card. Fun times! It ran Oblivion ok at the time, not on high details or anything though. Phil, if you read this post, I seem to remember a lot of talk in online forums back then about the socket 939 Opteron processors and their overclocking capabilities. Maybe you could look into that in a future video.

  • @dr_evil8686
    @dr_evil8686 4 роки тому

    I have the same exact motherboard and a 3800x2, it served me well as my main PC for a good 5 years!
    Recently I mounted the fastest agp card I have around (a radeon 9800pro), and now is a very nice win98 retro machine :)

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +8

    I can understand, at the same time I wanted the Pentium 4 Socket 478 3.0Ghz CPU to replace my dinky P3 600

    • @randymiracle4958
      @randymiracle4958 4 роки тому +3

      We had a Prescott p4 that was 3.4ghz I believe(maybe 3.2ghz) and man that thing ran hot! Edit: it was a socket 478 variant.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +5

      @@randymiracle4958 Oh yeah for sure. Hindsight was 20/20 but back then I wasn't as knowledgeable as I am now. All I knew was that I wanted this CPU. I liked the boards as well. On the AMD camp, Socket 754 was the big CPU socket and didn't have support for Dual Channel RAM. The 875P chipset had FOUR DIMM sockets so all I knew was I wanted room for more RAM. More IDE, More PCI, More SATA. While the CPUs were hot, I was a kid and didn't care, I loved the Intel motherboards.
      But Alas, despite putting down C$200 for a motherboard and being promised a CPU for christmas from my family.... it wasn't to be. I didn't get my hands on a CPU until many years later. By then I was already running a dual core 939 opteron in a recently built gaming rig. Those were nice motherboards too.

    • @airmicrobe
      @airmicrobe 4 роки тому

      Dinky?

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому

      @@airmicrobe It means insignificant.

    •  4 роки тому

      Tualatin 1400mhz

  • @peterharband326
    @peterharband326 4 роки тому

    I have one of those amd cards in my old Pentium 4 build. Good memories Phillip!

  • @retro4fun358
    @retro4fun358 3 роки тому +1

    PC Games Hardare (German PC Magazine) used the Athlon 54 4000+ for benchmarking the PC games in 2005. It was the best CPU on this time but very expensive

  • @drupiROM
    @drupiROM 4 роки тому +1

    10:50 it blew my mind when it came out. I loved the original one, Pandora Tomorrow was good, but Chaos Theory set the bar high, so high, that even today it is not matched. RIP Tom Clancy.

  • @104d_3rr0r_vince
    @104d_3rr0r_vince 4 роки тому +1

    Used to play Crysis on an Athlon 3000+ and an AGP 3850.
    Still have that system.

  • @Tomatgurka
    @Tomatgurka 4 роки тому +3

    The year 2005 when even the graphics cards were sporting tribal tattoos.

  • @Chaotic_cookie89
    @Chaotic_cookie89 4 роки тому +2

    Still have a 939 system kicking around, I upgraded it recently to an athlon from a sempron. I have been looking for the daughter board for that motherboard for a while but can't seem to find it, I was hoping to make a nice little project out of it see what it was capable of.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 роки тому

      I miss the Sempron brand...

    • @Chaotic_cookie89
      @Chaotic_cookie89 4 роки тому

      They were a decent cpu brand, I am just used to athlon's due to the 900 mhz athlon in my first computer.

  • @Daerana
    @Daerana 2 роки тому

    Back in 2006 the first pc I built was a socket 939, used the opteron 185 (dual core), 2gb ram, and a nvidia 7600gt. So much performance for the money.

  • @WADS-rr9wy
    @WADS-rr9wy Рік тому +1

    I have the Asus A8V my frist x64 build. Still good!

  • @Saved_Sinner0085
    @Saved_Sinner0085 4 роки тому

    I remember buying the 3700+ over the higher clocked 3800+ because the 3700+ had the full 1mb of L2 Cache and I just overclocked the crap out of it making it a cheap FX-57. Those were the golden ages of CPU overclocking and GPU flashing. As an aside I also had an Ati x850 Pro PE flashed in to an x850 XT PE.

  • @detonator620
    @detonator620 4 роки тому

    I've bought a AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (Brisbane) recently for home PC for 8$ and it works great.

  • @itzamedave6242
    @itzamedave6242 3 роки тому +1

    Nice I started building gaming PC when the Athlon 64 series came out and still have a 6000+ X2 in 2021 with a Gtx275 SOC 😁

    • @dallesamllhals9161
      @dallesamllhals9161 2 роки тому +1

      Ooh! They're actually worth something nowadays! (Even if AM2)

    • @itzamedave6242
      @itzamedave6242 2 роки тому

      @@dallesamllhals9161 been trying to sale on marketplace but no buyers

    • @dallesamllhals9161
      @dallesamllhals9161 2 роки тому

      @@itzamedave6242 Erh..well..Facebook AIN'T the place for our generation, kid ;-)
      And I already have a GTX260 core 216(in a drawer) = not THAT slower than the GTX 275! And DX10 cards EVEN today! ...naah..unless a 285!

  • @Stratotank3r
    @Stratotank3r 4 роки тому

    Back in that nice days i had a 3200+ sitting on an Abit AV8. Overclocked it to 2500MHz with Adata Vitesta DDR500 RAM. Kept my good old 9800pro in that system. Later swapped to GF7800GS and X2 3800+

  • @smg4gaming-poppyfromdreamw136
    @smg4gaming-poppyfromdreamw136 4 роки тому

    This is better than MY MATE VINCE!
    Bring the old outro song Phil! 🎶

  • @oldschooldude8370
    @oldschooldude8370 9 місяців тому +1

    I still have a system running an x2 4200 o/c to 2.5 just for stability. I can push 2.7 but its sketch. 2mb l2 cache. Its paired with a 9800gtx+ & 4gb of ddr400 & a 320gb sata2. Fantastic xp machine.

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal 4 роки тому +1

    Asrock become my latest favourite retro motherboards manufacturer, since socket 775 I really enjoy using thier products !

    • @blakecasimir
      @blakecasimir 4 роки тому

      They had some very interesting offerings at that time. Intel 8xx chipset 775 board that had DDR1 slots and AGP for example. Great way to upgrade from Athlon XP systems. However ASRock’s build quality and BIOS at the time were ... shaky. I wouldn’t want to go back to that unless it was for a “build and go” XP/98 system...

  • @ted-b
    @ted-b 4 роки тому +1

    I had (in fact still have) the 3800+ which was the same speed but with only half the L2 cache. It cost less than half the price of the 4000+ at the time.

  • @weatheronthe8s895
    @weatheronthe8s895 4 роки тому

    I clicked on this expecting the Athlon 64 X2 4000+. A very different processor with a very similar name. The X2 is a dual core so it runs great for the one I have.

  • @hometownzero3019
    @hometownzero3019 4 роки тому

    Love the retro videos. Thanks Phil

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak 4 роки тому

    I have a couple 939 boards, so I’ll have to try out what you put together although I don’t have that GPU. Thanks Phil for another great video 👍

  • @sanubali2923
    @sanubali2923 3 роки тому +1

    I still have my first pc from 2006. It had a athlon 3000+ and 256 mb ram on an asus motherboard with integrated via s3 graphics

  • @mauricevde
    @mauricevde 4 роки тому

    Again nice video , many likes ! Still running my abit av8 , a64 3000+ , x800pro from back in the day as retro machine :)

  • @chrisplissken4626
    @chrisplissken4626 4 роки тому

    Nice video as all the others you rock dude you explain everything so well

  • @NinjaFoxWafflez
    @NinjaFoxWafflez 4 роки тому

    I had the Athlon 64 x2 6000+ OC'ed to 3.2ghz, It was an epic little processor

  • @boomwithpeter623
    @boomwithpeter623 4 роки тому +1

    This cpu can run windows 10 x64 pro with no problem, with an ssd its really good as a chrome kiosk

  • @pauls4522
    @pauls4522 4 роки тому +2

    My dad bought a 3500+ back in the day (Jan 2005 I think). Was quite the cpu. Sadly his mobo died in 2008 and he didnt bother buying a new board to see if the cpu still works. I wish I could find it, I'd love messing with that cpu

  • @heclanet
    @heclanet 4 роки тому +1

    I remember to bought an Athlon 3200 and a week later I change it to an Atlom X2 4400, one exceptional processor with 2mb cache witch you need to enable by twicking the windows registry.

  • @riktek2241
    @riktek2241 4 роки тому

    Very good motherboard!!! Dual agp and one pci Express... For the old times was a Monster!

  • @user-kd4pg8hu7t
    @user-kd4pg8hu7t 4 роки тому

    I stil own a P4 desktop, but I helped a friend purchase a Socket 939 PC back in the days. The guy at the tech store told us the system is "dual core ready", i.e. we only have to instal a new dual core cpu when they launch. I urged him to ugprade it with one of those "free" scammer GPUS (GeForce 550) last year, but he would not bother. And what a coincidence - he just called me last week to bring the PC so that I prepare it for use by his Mum. If I can snatch a dual core Athlon, 4GB DDR 400 and SSD it will certainly bring a new life into that system. And possibly Win 8.1 would run good enough.

  • @NoirTeddy
    @NoirTeddy 4 роки тому

    Yeah, the older socket 939 Athlon 64s can struggle with the more demanding XP era games.
    For my mid-2000 XP build, I married nostalgia with performance. :D I use an Athlon 64 X2 5600+ overclocked to 3,2GHz. Stays nicely cool and quiet while delivering Conroe-like performance in games. I paired it with a 7900 gtx... really surprised and happy with the quietness of that thing as well, especially compared to its X1800 and X1900 contemporaries.

  • @LiLBitsDK
    @LiLBitsDK 4 роки тому

    Fear was a great game back in the day, haven't played it since but it could really creep you out when playing at night with headphones on :D

    • @blakecasimir
      @blakecasimir 4 роки тому +1

      I played it again recently, with both expansions. It still holds up SO well. IMHO more fun than many newer FPSs that came after. In fact FEAR came out around the time old school shooters basically disappeared. After that... ugh...

  • @simplyinfinity6606
    @simplyinfinity6606 4 роки тому +1

    My first CPU was an athlon 64 x2 4400+ and I was surprised at how well it ran some things despite being so old.

  • @captainpower6376
    @captainpower6376 4 роки тому

    2006 ! what a year ! it was a great year for PC-Gaming ! i remember having my new fresh rig = Athlon64 3800+ / Geforce 7600GT / 1 Go RAM DDR 2/ MSi K9N Neo MB , replacing my old good PC = P4 ( 1st Gen) 2.6 Ghz / ASUS-Radeon 9600XT / 512 DDR RAM , it was lika day & night even though i really liked the ASUS9600XT it was so powerful but unfortunately no Shader Model 3.0 support !! i remember FEAR & BF2 trounced my old PC.

  • @yorgle11
    @yorgle11 4 роки тому

    Re low power consumption:
    If you want to try undervolting the Athlon64 CPUs, try out RMCLOCK. You can significantly reduce the idle power draw on some CPUs by reducing the Vcore of the low power state. Some of the core revisions allow slowing down the CPU to 800MHz and Vcore settings down to 0.800V, those are the ones that can benefit the most.
    To test stability, just set rmclock to lock the CPU in the experimental setting (so it doesn't throttle up) and run Prime95 to see if it's stable. Once you find the stable minimum voltage, bump it up slightly more to ensure it will be solid.

  • @dikbozo
    @dikbozo 4 роки тому +1

    As to using Ryzen coolers, one can also use AM2, AM3, AM3+, FM1 and FM2 coolers. They are all the same size and have somewhat similar cooling properties. I am currently using an Arctic Cooling Alpine AM4 (product number ACALP00025A) on a lightly overclocked Ryzen 5 1600 and it idles at 34C or so. BTW this model is listed as being for use on AM2, AM3 and AM4 for 95W TDP. It seems all Arctic coolers are very quiet as well.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 роки тому +1

      Yea I've used Phenom II cooler with Ryzen and Ryzen coolers with S939 and others :)

  • @hipwave
    @hipwave 4 роки тому +1

    Bought the 6000+ once and it is still here, and it used to get hot as a m*********er. I had to slap in a chassis fan to keep the damn thing from hitting 80 C° during those fiery summers but still wasn't enough