Abuse: What Does God Say? To the Abused // Mike Novotny // Time of Grace

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  • @teresaroatch6983
    @teresaroatch6983 Рік тому +7

    I came up on this on tv, I was just turning the channel and stopped and listened, thank you, God really is talking to me, I've been through emotional and physical abuse and it's great to see a church talking about this

  • @lenpow3854
    @lenpow3854 Рік тому +7

    Amazing how Isaiah prophesized about 700 years before Christ that Jesus would be abused and '...by his wounds we are healed'' (Isaiah 53:5). Great devotion Pastor Mike, thank you.

  • @ms.bonilla8059
    @ms.bonilla8059 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for at least acknowledging that abuse happens; exists in the church. I wish more pastors did that and included emotional and verbal abuse. I'm in my 50's and it has crushed me most of my life.

  • @TF-uu1yu
    @TF-uu1yu Рік тому +5

    Thank you so much for preaching on this topic and truly understanding it. You give hope to the oppressed.

  • @josephineduah-boakye7297
    @josephineduah-boakye7297 Рік тому +3

    God richly bless you Pastor Mike

  • @MrAllysonn
    @MrAllysonn Рік тому +7

    I am 37 years old and I am still suffering inside from child abuse. Those kind a sermon is making feel seen and numb.

    • @brendabrinkmanpasichnyk3500
      @brendabrinkmanpasichnyk3500 Рік тому +2

      Forgive.
      Revenge is mine sayeth the Lord.
      The Lord is restoring you. In God is your security...trust. 💖

    • @MrAllysonn
      @MrAllysonn Рік тому +4

      ​@@brendabrinkmanpasichnyk3500I tried. I prayed. I cut off the abuser. I am battling with Cptsd DAILY because of it. I'm praying that The Lord will set me free.

    • @JesusChristForEternity
      @JesusChristForEternity Рік тому +3

      @@MrAllysonn You’re Not Alone.
      Here’s my testimony.
      Although I have never attempted to take my life, the thought of doing so had always been in the back of my mind until March 2020. It was driven by the trauma I was facing by the DV in my dysfunctional home (the DV still continues today). I felt so alone, anxious, depressed and useless. School was my only escape. I’d work overtime to make the highest grades possible and soon people started to assume I had the most perfect life with perfect letter grades. But that was far from the truth.
      It wasn’t till after so got saved in March 2020, that I realized why all of these traumatic events were happening to me, my Mom, and my siblings at the hands of alcoholism. It was because of the fact we live in a evil fallen world where people use their free will to rebel against God and his commandments. I also learned of why the Devil wanted me to give up so early in my life-he knew God’s plan for me and didn’t want me to fulfill it. Also, by getting closer to God, I was able to witness to my Mother and the rest of my siblings and inspire them to trust in God again. Hearing God’s promises also helped me realize how much he cared about me. My favorite verse is Isaiah 41:10. I first heard it when crying out to God about my trauma and pain I was facing in my life:
      “fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.”
      ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭41:10‬ ‭ESV‬‬ ❤️
      During episodes of DV, me and the rest of my family soon began to turn to God and resort to prayer in the midst of the verbal attacks and physical threats. And ever since we started to do that, the length of these episodes would end rather quickly and less harshly.
      I also learned to forgive my father (I can also share my testimony on this if you want) despite all the wrongs he committed against us and still continues to commit against us. To put this in perspective for you, from Mid February 2022 to late March 2022 he decided that he wasn’t going to speak to me, my older sister, and younger brother even though we live all live in the same house. He just passed by us everyday and like we didn’t exist, while only speaking to my Mom (my Mom knows about this and is angered by it, but we reassured her we are not moved by this attitude as we no longer have to be drawn into unnecessary long hours of a conversation run on alcohol, and most importantly, an argument.)
      It is awkward to say the least in those moments. But knowing that humans disappoint and God doesn’t, and that real family is in Christ with a God as the true Father, I have no reason to be angry. Instead, I feel sorry witnessing a once hot Christian go lukewarm and finally cold. They don’t know the things that they do; they don’t know how much damage it is doing to themselves and their eternity rather than the person who their trying to hurt.
      We do talk as of now but the abuse and alcoholism hasn’t truly stop. Despite this, I pray everyday for them to see the light. And even if they don’t, it will not stop me from shining mine that God had given me.
      ~
      I hope this reassured everyone and God Bless!!! God loves you 💗
      P.S: This is quite a long P.S but still…
      I often used to and still kinda do struggle to trust God when it comes to my abuse because Satan would always remind me:
      "This ALWAYS happens"
      and "There's never a break from school WITHOUT this"
      and "I NEVER stop feeling depressed/anxious/sick about this"
      and lastly, "It's NOT coming to an end."
      But then I had a thought while telling God why I didn't trust him about that particular area of my life, and it was this:
      "In what part of the Bible did God promise us a life free of calamity, hardships, trials, and tribulations?"
      Nowhere.
      N O W H E R E.
      That's when it hit me. I had been trusting in a NONEXSISTENT promise this whole time!!!
      God instead reminded me that he actually PROMISES that our life is going to full of persecutions, trials and tribulations but,
      MAJOR BUT!
      He promises that through them...
      -He is faithful
      -He will never forsake us
      -He will protect us from the wicked plans of the enemy
      -He is always by our side
      -All things will work out for good
      -Has a good plan for our lives even through disaster
      -He strengthens us
      -He will give us wisdom
      And so much more!!!
      So in every trial we endure in this FALLEN WORLD, remember-
      “Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful.”
      ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10:19-23‬ ‭ESV‬‬
      God has helped me so much…I’ve gone from being a suicidal young girl, to someone who plans to use their testimony to inspire others who faced abuse that God can use anything-even pain-for the good!!
      God bless! He can do the same for you.

    • @timeofgrace
      @timeofgrace  Рік тому +3

      So sorry to hear that you and others on this thread are suffering the current or past effects of abuse. Time of Grace has compiled some additional resources here, and we pray these will be helpful to you wherever you are in the process of healing: timeofgrace.org/abuse/. Another video, entitled "How to Escape An Abusive Relationship," which might be especially encouraging for those who find themselves in an abusive relationship, can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/6ThAIjilM6Y/v-deo.html.

  • @traycei
    @traycei Рік тому +4

    ❤🙏🏽🙌🏾 thank you so much Paster Mike for speaking on these hard topics. So many persons needs to hear this!

  • @gwilb3rd906
    @gwilb3rd906 Рік тому +3

    Lord i thank you for pastor Mike! Can’t wait to meet ya! I’ll get down that way when i get me a license! Gods blessings to you, your family, and your congregation, excellent work +

  • @AshleighKinsley
    @AshleighKinsley Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this message. Thank you for the confirmation for things I've prayed about. I pray this message, after I share it, helps so many as well.

  • @michelleagostini8162
    @michelleagostini8162 3 місяці тому +1

    God Bless you.

  • @Sharon-ls4bt
    @Sharon-ls4bt Рік тому +8

    I was abused by my 'wonderful christian' husband that everyone adored. He was unfaithful. When he confessed to the pastor because he wanted to go into full time ministry, I was immediately asked by the pastor if I'd asked the woman to forgive me for allowing my husband to have an affair with her! I'll never forget the look of surprise and then absolute delight on my husband's face. I walked out of the office and sat in the car. I said out loud 'I'm sorry God but I don't think their God is my God'. I never set foot in church for 10 years. I can't tell you the damage that man did to me. For years I was suicidal. He divorced me. He was having another affair. He's a pastor now with his new wife. I can't believe that he's got away all these years with being so abusive, and that he pastors a church.

    • @timeofgrace
      @timeofgrace  Рік тому +4

      Truly sorry to hear about the hurt you suffered at the hands of your husband and by people in his church! As you know, sometimes the covert forms of abuse can be more difficult to endure when you are not validated by those around you who cannot see past the facade of your abuser. Please know that God loves you and that the abuse you suffered is condemned by him. While it is true that many churches have not been as experienced (and some have been downright wrong) in how abuse is dealt with, healing and peace can be found in the arms of Jesus. Next week's message, entitled "What Does God Say to the Church?" will address how Christians can and should better support victims of abuse. For more resources that may help on your path toward healing, you can visit our website: timeofgrace.org/abuse/. May God be with you as you move forward.

    • @jdkayak7868
      @jdkayak7868 Рік тому

      Was it Independent fundamentalist baptist? I'm so sorry such a thing happened to you. Their God is a false God, as Christ says the fruit of a beliefs evident. These are the people mentioned in the verse where Jesus said I never knew you, and casts them into darkness.

    • @janaimes4070
      @janaimes4070 7 місяців тому +1

      I have no words. 😢((Hugs))

    • @heathersnyder8789
      @heathersnyder8789 6 місяців тому +1

      Women don’t matter in most churches. We are constantly told to shut up, cover up, and submit. I left the church but not Christ. It’s like they forgot the gospels

  • @michelleagostini8162
    @michelleagostini8162 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much.

  • @northofthefray
    @northofthefray Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this message 🙏🏾💜

  • @michelleagostini8162
    @michelleagostini8162 3 місяці тому

    I tried get back to you man of God.

  • @beforetherainbow355
    @beforetherainbow355 Рік тому +1

    15 years of abuse. Words can’t even.

  • @michelleagostini8162
    @michelleagostini8162 3 місяці тому

    Yes I was recently abused by some one from church& also my neighbor Got abused last Sunday& threatend.😢😮

  • @ChildofGod98765
    @ChildofGod98765 Рік тому +5

    I pray the rapture is soon. Jesus save me. Lord please change my life for the better. Thank you Jesus for never leaving my side, because everyone else has! Jesus! I PRAISE you! Even as I’m struggling providing for my children. I feel like a failure but I will keep faith because faith is all I have left! Since covid I can’t seem to get back on my feet. I lost my job for declining the vaccine. I declined due to my health conditions. I suffer from lupus, and heart disease. I’m now waitressing and so thankful to be working but I’m not making nearly enough to get by. I have two beautiful boys both are autistic. I’m overwhelmed because they require so much from me. Every month is a struggle to not end up on the streets with my boys. I’m struggling buying groceries I’m so discouraged. Jesus hear my cries I’m so tired. But I have faith! Jesus hear my prayers.

    • @brendabrinkmanpasichnyk3500
      @brendabrinkmanpasichnyk3500 Рік тому +1

      Jesus will come through for you.💖

    • @suburbansquirrel
      @suburbansquirrel Рік тому

      You are doing everything you can. Jesus and God are with you. Keep going. You have a duty from God, to look after your boys. You can do it. Keep going. Praying for you ❤

  • @mr.nonsense2900
    @mr.nonsense2900 7 місяців тому +1

    All I get is mental abuse and emotional abuse.

  • @stevenichols5708
    @stevenichols5708 8 місяців тому

    A very brave attempt at explaining away why God allows abuse. I was raised a Christian and followed faithfully for many years in my youth. I would lay in bed crying as I could hear my Mom being abused. I also suffered abuse myself. I would lay in bed and pray for this to stop. Night after night and every day for many years. There are many thousands of children going through this, and many are praying for it to stop. This Pastor quotes Genesis 6:13 which clearly states that if God wanted to... He could stop the suffering. So, you can see why many abused children find it hard to see God's justice because they have prayed and begged for it for many years, seeing no answers.
    If any adult parent knowingly allowed their beloved children to suffer abuse, that parent would be classified as "Evil" or an "animal," but Christians believe God is "All-Knowing" and choose to allow the abuse to continue. All in the name of "free will" or "A Just God you simply do not understand."
    Suffering abuse is REAL. We have yet to meet someone who has "Real" experience meeting the God who claims to bring us Joy and eternal life. We can meditate, Pray, and Holuscinate our way to try to bring some sort of relief. A "coping mechanism" if you will.
    Logic is the answer. Meaning: that if you believe God is the creator of ALL things, then God also created and allowed evil. Why? It doesn't matter to the unanswered prayers of the abused. That is why, for me at least, God is the one I must forgive. If I am to believe that God is the creator of all things and has the power to stop evil, then logically, I must forgive him first, and I simply cannot do that. This is a very cruel World that Christians believe God created, or at least God has allowed to become.
    I wish everyone the best of luck in their quest to find peace and happiness in this world. Please take the time to understand that "Suffering" has many meanings to everyone and try to understand why they don't or can't believe in ANY God, not just the Christian God.
    This is the first time I have shared my thoughts on this. I appreciate this Pastor's attempt at explaining why God hates abuse. I just wanted to explain why it is VERY hard for the abused to love a God who knowingly allows it and, through several verses in the Bible, claims to have the ability to stop it.

  • @nancycasper2605
    @nancycasper2605 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this.....

  • @danfabisac
    @danfabisac Рік тому

    Very good talk.
    I have been going through an abusive (to me) marriage.
    As the husband my abuse has not been physical. It seems that mental abuse and abandonment (emotional and physical) Does not get addressed. We have had to live separate lives, to ask about finance or ask to be a part of it is stonewalled , any desire , question or problem gets spun around . Ex. I should leave you, I dont want to be with you, man up and don't expect credit for things.
    Seems nothing is geared toward an abused husband.

    • @timeofgrace
      @timeofgrace  Рік тому

      Sorry to hear you have been experiencing abuse. As you know, abuse can come in all forms and unfortunately it is often most difficult to receive validation and support for emotional and mental abuse. We hope you will be able to tune in for next week's video entitled "Abuse: What Does God Say to the Church?" It is our prayer that, as more light is shed on this issue from a biblical perspective, more of us will be better equipped to support victims of unspoken trauma and deep wounds. Here is a link to another devotional series entitled "Escape an Abusive Relationship": ua-cam.com/video/6ThAIjilM6Y/v-deo.html. We also have some additional resources on our website timeofgrace.org/abuse/ that may be able to provide some encouragement and help.

  • @suburbansquirrel
    @suburbansquirrel Рік тому +1

    Thank you ❤

  • @LALady1
    @LALady1 6 місяців тому

    What about abusive leaders? I feel God put me in abusive jobs and under abusive leadership? I know it definitely was God he opened doors and sent me to jobs I got abused. I think God does use that to refuje us. I was under difficult leadership at church to. I cried alot but God would not deliver me.

  • @DanaD-er8dn
    @DanaD-er8dn Рік тому +2

    Once my abuser, "found Jesus" the abuse did get worse because Jesus forgives him and who am I to have a problem with his behavior. Ofcourse I'm "unforgiving" and not a true Christian because I do not continue to take it graciously like a submissive wife.

    • @suburbansquirrel
      @suburbansquirrel Рік тому +5

      Another lie. He did not find Jesus. He found another excuse to try to make his behaviour acceptable to you and himself. It's awful. Been there. Still there. Hopefully you are in a better position now. I hope it didn't put you off Christianity. Take care ❤

    • @janaimes4070
      @janaimes4070 7 місяців тому +6

      This is bullshit. If he found Christ he would not be abusing you. He is attempting to justify it. I don't know how but God will hold his ass accountable. You're not required to endure this and then be told you're not Christian or unsubmissive or unforgiving! Those are lies and not of God

  • @sharonbutcher7889
    @sharonbutcher7889 Рік тому +1

    Amen 🙏

  • @DS-mz1gt
    @DS-mz1gt 8 днів тому

    I dont have it in me to heal. For god watched as this whole ficking thing happened and i juat dont and wont get it back. Im too fucked up from it all now. What a fucking loss. And it had to be me...i dony know ehat i did so fucking wrong or what it is about me tjat thisbshiy jad to happen..but i lost this life due to it

  • @silviarojas9266
    @silviarojas9266 Рік тому

    I forgot my abuser but i cannot ever have a relationship with this person. Is that bad?

  • @freeinjesusrw
    @freeinjesusrw Місяць тому

    I need the help

  • @Beleive-Christ-cares
    @Beleive-Christ-cares Рік тому

    Isaiah 53 😔

  • @michelleagostini8162
    @michelleagostini8162 3 місяці тому

    It's Michelle again.😢

  • @ColleenJones-f2m
    @ColleenJones-f2m 3 місяці тому +1

    What about child abuse, you can't even say the real words. Children are abused at church sexually. I was Catholic that happened, I went to the Protestant site and that happened. Why are you afraid to say the real words of it, why aren't you telling children at church don't let the adults or other children touch you in your private places. Why aren't you saying at church to children and teenagers if someone touches you come and tell us. If your father or your grandfather or your uncle or your brother touch you come and tell us tell everyone don't be afraid. Why am I not hearing you say these things in Jesus name