Workhorse is a sister brand of Primitive Pits. Everything JD and their team are doing in GA is helping to spread the love for handcrafted barbecue. Their offset smokers are the beating heart of our operation at 2fifty BBQ. One of my Pitmasters bought one 1975 and everything Jeremy says here is accurate. Another amazing, informative video. Thank you!
@@joeybonanotte3850 I have a flagstone patio. It's not hard it needs some strength. If yiu are moving the smoker from a garage to a drive way it should not be hard it rolls smoothly. Don't get the metal caster what ever you do. If you plan on on moving the smoker on grass the the 8 inch hard rubber casters will sink into the turf ( It's a theft prevention lol ) the smoker is 900 pounds so if your driveway is steep you will need to guys to keep it from rolling down the drive way.
Been looking at buying this smoker for a while now. Thanks for breaking it down in this detailed review! You can’t beat that 3/8s steel. I think this solidified my decision to go with the 1975T!
I emailed them to inquire and they said they don't take custom requests in their automated response. Can you add any more context to this? I would really like to order one but only if this is true.
@@ragnarlothbrok6240 I believe it was on a FB post, but I can’t find it right now, I’m sitting on an airplane. Anyway it’s a 1” fitting, get a 1”short nipple and a ball valve from Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot. Some have added a 45° or 90°. It’s a couple of bucks if you need it. I have the std 1975. I don’t use one and just set a bucket under it to drain. It’s REALLY easy to move on a flat surface. Jeremy recommended the 1975 to me in July of 2021.
It’s just a 3/4” coupling welded on there. You can to any hardware store get a 3/4” nipple and a ball valve to screw in there. Just like you screw in the plug that it’s comes with.
How close are you able to put food to the firebox without it getting burned. I've been looking at the 1975 for a while and wondering how many inches I would be losing and cook surface. And do you use a water pan
I was waiting for this review, but I was on vacation with crap internet when this vid dropped. I feel late to the party. I’m loving my 1975. I picked her up late Feb this year.
Got my 1975 three months ago after waiting 5 months to get it. No trailer model needed. I’ve done 4 cooks on it so far. Still learning fire management. Can’t achieve the five degree difference across the grates as workhorse pits claims. I’m sure it’s me. It’s a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. I keep it in my garage uncovered. It should last 3-4 generations. Cheers!!
Try these tips and you'll get even temps throughout the whole cook: 14 inch splits so they can lay front-to-back, so the entire fire/flames are near the firebox door. 14 inch ensures the entire split lays on the coal bed for an even burn, and less manipulation of the fire. Use the firebox door cracked about an inch, not the bowtie (bowtie was required by insurance for backyard model and causes the flames to be sucked more into the chamber), this helps with less radiant heat on the food too. Limit wind - back pressure from wind coming towards the stack make temps by the firebox 20 degrees hotter. I clip a 2ftx2ft piece of wood to the top of the stack if windy and the wind doesn't come into the stack.
@@halomaster9640 Get the 1975t. Everything built by primitive pits and workhorse pits is built to standards way above the industry. You won’t go wrong with the 1975 trailer model. Cheers!!
I have an old country wrangler. I believe this is my next pit. I want the normal 1975 model though. I’m having trouble with my wrangler burning the bottom of my food. I can’t wait to get my workhorse, as soon as I can convince my wife it’s a necessity lol
Workhorse Pits's shop is about 15 minutes from my house so I drove up this morning to day to get a first hand look at their smokers in the various sizes and configurations available. I was really curious as to how difficult it might be to lift the cabinet door given that I'll be turning 60 in a few days and I'm only 5' 6" and 160 lbs. As it turns out, I was able to open the chamber door on the 1975t without difficulty. If anything my short stature was probably the bigger challenge as it was almost a full stretch to get the lid all the way back to it's open resting position. Maybe in 10 years, when I'm 70 years old and a 1/2" shorter, opening and closing the door will become a problem, but not today. I was also able to push the 1975t around on its trailer, which gave be confidence that it wouldn't be any trouble manually pushing and maneuvering it into position in my garage.
Would love to see more content on this smoker! Out of all the ones on the market, this is a great deal. JD and team are doing great things in North GA! Thanks for the vid!
Ordered a 1975 with the Wagon package back in end of November, should be getting it soon, really excited, haven’t heard or seen a bad review and the excellent build quality is always mentioned. Great videos as always.
I’m so glad you did this review. I’ve been on the fence about which stick burner to get for months and I’ve been super interested in this one but needed a good honest review
I have one with the wagon package. It cost less than the trailered version and is really easy to move around the yard. Highly recommend it to anyone out there looking for a great pit.
I went with the 1975 because of build and total cost. My original choice was Lone Star Grillz. But for what you get for the money. Workhorse 1975 was a no-brainer. I love this smoker. It is the easiest stick smoker to cook on.
@ryrytoomey I ordered mine on May 31 2022 and received mine about 3 weeks ago, in early February. That's 9 months. However, the guy that brought it to me told me they're not accepting orders right now due to the high amount of backorders. I will still try and see if you can order online. I would buy one sooner the better. It's only gonna get more expensive. They just higher the price by about $200 in 9 months. But once you get it, it's yours forever, it'll outlive you, and no need for another one.
I've been looking at getting this exact model. I currently use a pellet smoker and kamado smoker. Been getting into catering and pop ups and wanted an offset on a trailer. This seems like the perfect size. Your review makes me want it even more!
Jeremy, thanks for the review. My workhorse 1975 on casters is going into production in July! Can’t wait. Buying all the accessories over the last 6 months. FYI I’m looking to sell my M1 reverse flow smoker/charcoal/ grill. Very versatile grill . Looking for $1000. New is $3000
Well done. Owned mine for 6 months and love it. I didn’t bother with a trailer and you can save a lot of you aren’t going to tow it around. One thing I noticed, the damper should stay on the stack so when you put it down, the damper supports the stack and it’s parallel to the pit. I love being able to collapse and cover mine. It was part of my buying decision. Good stuff!
FYI, I really enjoy your content and well done reviews, but I blame you and Yoder for helping me to become several grand poorer. I think Workhorse owes both of you boys a couple of free hats, at the very least.
Mine will be ready in November(ordered May 4). I spent a good amount of time researching different brands...Millscale, LSG, Workhorse, and several others. The Workhorse is by far the best value out there, and without sacrificing anything. After all of the add-ons, which puts some of these premium pits well over $5k, and then taking into consideration all of the features of each, Workhorse beats any of them by a mile. The only drawback to the Workhorse is it probably has the longest lead time of any of them, so if you're in the market, get on it now. I was looking forward to seeing your review of this pit, Jeremy. Even more happy I went with Workhorse.
Jeremy I'd love it if you could review the Yoder Kingman. I'm a Kansas kid so i'm a fan of Yoder and i'm also curious about what you'd think about the heat management plate in it. I have one of their pellet smokers and i want an offset now. Love your channel luv Ky, I lived an worked in Lexington back in 04-06. Thank-you
We are looking at purchasing an offset smoker. The Franklin is more expensive than we have in our budget. We are looking at $2-4 thousand. One option we have looked at is the Lang offset smokers. How does the Workhorse brand compare to Lang?
Great review Jeremy. I found this a couple weeks before you started posting videos on it and I've been sitting on the fence, but I think your endorsement is going to sell them some smokers. Just placed my order so I'm not #501 in line. Been on a Kamado Joe for a little over a year and your videos are the best resource out there to get good fast at smoking. Thank you for all your help. Looking forward to start stick burning!
I have the 1969 on casters and I wish the grease drain was closer to the firebox. The firebox is super heavy so it leans ever so slightly towards the firebox which means not all the grease makes it to the drain. I'll probably get a scissor jack to level it out during cooks.
My order is for the standard version with 4 casters. A trailer, or even the wagon version, would be impossible to get into my back yard without a crane (or convincing two neighbors to let me tear down part of their fences and drive it through their yards). I've already been thinking about the door weight. I ordered the upper rack on mine, which means it has two more threaded holes for upper thermometers. Since I always use a wireless thermometer, I don't really need them. I figure I could get some steel to make a counterweight and use those threaded holes to attach it.
If you have to move it over grass get 3 sheet of plywood or OSB. Even with the 8 inch casters it will dig or sink into the turf. I also had to use a tow strap and ratchet strap to get it over the flag atone step stones I have in my back patio.
Great video as always. I’m going for my first offset having graduated from BGE to Timberline 1300 pellet and now offset. Based now on owning the 1975 (not going to get T), between Mill Scale 94 vs. 1975 vs. Franklin if you had to just pick one (a money aside) what is your final pick. Note for me size is not as important I am never likely to smoke 3/4 briskets at once (but maybe 2 turkeys or 6 racks).
I built a smoker out of a 3/8 thick pipe and the door was super heavy too. I welded an arm off the back with a pulley on top. I have a steel cable attached to the door that goes over the pulley to a 50lb weight that slides in a track. Sort of like a davit. Its night and day difference.
I hope I can get one of these one day. A small, backyard sized smoker on a trailer is exactly what I need to cook for the people I love. Thanks for the review and if Workhorse Pits sees this know that when I do eventually order this smoker Jeremy is the reason why!
Love everything about your videos, Jeremy. Content. Production. Great stuff! It's looking like my 1975t will be ready for pickup in September. Question - Do you build your fire in the workhorse directly on the bottom of the firebox,or do you recommend using a grate to allow for additional airflow?
As far as adding the ball valve. You can go to any hardware store get a nipple and a ball valve. That is a standard coupling just welded on the bottom of the cooker. Looks to be 3/4”.
Awesome Smoker! I’ve spent a lot of time researching high-quality craft smokers, and I believe this one is the absolute best as far as backyard smokers go. I really enjoy your videos! I’m making a smoker and I’m curious about a couple of measurements on this one: 1. How wide is the cookdoor opening? It looks like 40 inches? 2. How wide is the trim piece that goes around the edge of the cook door? is it 1 1/2 inch wide? 3. What is the frame of the cooking grates made of? It looks like half inch solid square bar. 4. How wide is the Cowboy door opening? 5. How tall is the Cowboy door opening if you measure along the curve of the firebox instead of a straight line? 6. How far apart is the upper cooking grate from the lower cooking great? 7. What’s the distance from the top of the cook chamber to the top of the firebox? 8. How tall is the hole that lets smoke in from the firebox? It looks like it’s half moon shaped with a straight line across the top of the hole maybe 8 or 10 inches tall in the center? Thanks for showing us this awesome smoker!
I’ve had a big green egg for 12 years and love it. I’ve also had a Santa Maria grill and plan to get another. That said, I can’t decide if I want to try and get a high quality offset like this to learn or if I want to try and get a Komodo Kamado.
If you decide on a komodo kamado, I recommend you get the 32” big bad. Anything smaller and you’ll regret it. For a Komodo grill nothing touches Dennis’s komodokamado, pick a color you’re grandkids like, it will last forever.
Couldn't agree more on all points, this smoker is an absolute unit! My 1975W earned the nickname Ferrari after the first cook. If you have the means get one, I whole heartedly endorse this product!! Thank you Andrew for the review!
Hello. I am looking to purchase the 1975W. Do you have any issues with the grease drain location? It looks to be sitting right over the cross bar below the cooking chamber. How did you handle placing a grease bucket underneath? Thank you for your time.
@@markhodson5316 It is a bit odd but an easy fix. I used a pair of 1" street 45 degree bends at each end of a threaded ball valve to offset past the cross bar.
@@markhodson5316 Also, stop thinking and buy it, If you can afford it that is. I thought long and hard about it because it is a big chunk of money (I had to pay freight all the way to Colorado too) but it was but worth every penny. The build quality is unmatched and it draws and burns like a dream, even at elevation.
@@eazymunee yes. I was actually waiting on the review of it from Jeremy. Deciding if the wagon package was the to go with the firebox being close to the tires and if there was any issues with the grease drain. Yes shipping is no joke. I am out in California so it’s 20% of the cost. Thank you again for all the info. Nice to hear from someone with the same model I am looking at. Will be placing the order here in the next week or two!
“computational fluid dynamics", Workhorse/Primitive Pits, has spent more money on research and development then any other pit manufacturer, (according to the owner) on how air flows through an offset. Its called computational fluid dynamics, and all that R & D shows in every single one of their pits' performance in keeping a +/- of 5 degrees (again, according to the owner) So it's no surprise they all run as well as they do. The owner has a channel called Quetorials and the vid in where he talks about all this is something like watch this video before purchasing an offset or along those lines. No disrespect meant to Jeremy, however since this is a video on workhorse Pits, I figured it was cool to mention their channel as anyone interested in their pits could watch them. Cheers Jeremy!
Get it for sure just for ease of starting your fires and cleaning the firebox. But the real reason to get it is to reverse sear some ribeyes. I smoke 3.5 inch ribeyes fire 2 hours then sear on the cowboy grill. That sweet wood flavor can’t be replicated any other way.
Thank you for doing a review. I value your opinion. I’ve been looking at this smoker and wanted your opinion as to how it compares to the Franklin and Fatstack. Thanks again!!
The folding stack is really a great feature, so don't listen to Jeremy on this :-) The cover you can and should purchase for this fits with the stack folded down. In addition to it making it more compact for storage, I'm also guessing it saved some material costs on the cover. Nevertheless, Primitive, Workhorse's sister company and predecessor, does folding stacks, so I'm guessing they adopted it from them. It is a feature common an large trailer pits. I think it's a great feature, even on a "backyard" pit.
What do you think about the smaller 1957 or 1969? This certainly fits my size needs and fits better into a budget I maybe able to swing with the better half.
My 1975 arrives next week. Only question I have is the appropriate length/size of splits. Most of my splits are 20 inches and I don’t see anyone online using splits that long.
I'm curious why you would not go with a reverse flow smoker? The heat just seems to be so much more even with mine. I would hate having it to hot on the top rack and cooler on the bottom. Just really curious about your choice??? thanks
I've noticed that the door on the OLD COUNTRY BRAZOS is 3/16" steel and not 1/4" like the rest of the chamber. Has it always been this way? I was going to buy one until I noticed. I like the size of the Workhorse 1969 but it's a bit out of my price range at the moment.
Not answering for Jeremy, but that seems like an odd question to be asked. What one would expect is that you would get it raw (not painted, but seasoned with something like linseed oil) and over time it will develop a patina, much like a carbon steel pan after cooking in it gets darker, but naturally and unevenly so, which looks nice.
Hi Jeremy! And thank you for all your informatives videos, I love them all !! I scrolled thru all your videos and I couldn’t find a comparison between a offset smoker and a upright cabinet smoker. Cabinet smokers are quite common in Europe and I would like to know that how the taste, smokiness and fuel efficiency differents from each other. Again, super good videos and awesome meats you have there, just let the good times and smoke roll 👌 Greetings from Finland ! 🇫🇮 -Markus
I've had my 1975 for over a year. You ain't lying about that lid. It's heavy for sure. I found out about workhorse when I started researching a new pit about the time Franklins were starting to come out. For the money the Workhorse was a better deal than Franklin and didn't have the crazy wait times like some of the other builders.
I was on the very edge of ordering one of these last fall when researching and the only reason I didn’t was I had an opportunity to get a Franklin order (someone gave theirs up) that would arrive in 3 weeks. The benefit of trailer can’t be emphasized enough if you ever think you may want to take it somewhere vs trying to load one with casters. Like you said, you can’t go wrong between the three and I don’t think I’d do anything different, but would love to get one of these on a trailer someday :)
Jeremy when you get a chance can you do a review on a reverse flow, would love to see you review a Shirley fabrication, have you cooked on one and what are your thoughts on it?
Only one you issues why in the world 🌎 you can cut the one inch lower make bottom shelf slide to ? And from fire box to cook chamber putting half inch lip so the grease won’t drip and firebox ?
The selection of smokers here in Norway is beyond awful, but this one is actually available. I had a look at it in the shop, and I must say, it looks one hell of a solid unit. Now to convince the wife that this is a mandatory purchase....
Good quality work. I built my own offset and it turned out awesome but I wish I had built it on a trailer. It’s on casters and rolls fine but if on not on concrete it doesn’t roll on grass or rock very well and it super heavy
Have you tried to add a ball valve ? Just curios if the size is available to add myself and I am ordering one but if the they need to mod it to a different size it would be great to know , thanks.
Super curious now that you’ve cooked on all these high end pits, how do feel the Brazos stacks up now? Has your opinion on that changed? Still waiting for you video on how you like the mods you did to the Brazos too.
I wouldn't mind seeing a review of the 1969 myself. Having said that, I have a 1975t on order even though I'll mostly just be cooking for two, as my wife and I are empty nesters. My reasoning? It's my first smoker and I am convinced that as Jeremy has noted that it will be easier to maintain the fire and temperature on the 24" vs 20" diameter smoker. Plus, I wanted the trailer, even though I think the wagon is pretty kick ass. And I've found that my smoked pork and chicken freeze well, so I'll probably just load it up anyhow.
FYI, the handles on that damper are also legs for the stack when you fold it down so it's level.
Workhorse is a sister brand of Primitive Pits. Everything JD and their team are doing in GA is helping to spread the love for handcrafted barbecue. Their offset smokers are the beating heart of our operation at 2fifty BBQ. One of my Pitmasters bought one 1975 and everything Jeremy says here is accurate. Another amazing, informative video. Thank you!
2Fifty is the best!
I have a 1975 with the 8 inch hard rubber casters. It was delivered September 2021. I love this smoker. I smoke when ever I can rain or shine.
Is it easy to move around? I'm looking to move it in and out of the garage (roughly 20 feet)?
It would be on concrete the entire time.
@@joeybonanotte3850 once it’s moving it’s pretty easy to move.
It shouldn't be a problem unless you're having to push it uphill
@@joeybonanotte3850 I have a flagstone patio. It's not hard it needs some strength. If yiu are moving the smoker from a garage to a drive way it should not be hard it rolls smoothly. Don't get the metal caster what ever you do. If you plan on on moving the smoker on grass the the 8 inch hard rubber casters will sink into the turf ( It's a theft prevention lol ) the smoker is 900 pounds so if your driveway is steep you will need to guys to keep it from rolling down the drive way.
Been looking at buying this smoker for a while now. Thanks for breaking it down in this detailed review! You can’t beat that 3/8s steel. I think this solidified my decision to go with the 1975T!
Got one !! Love it 💯
I pulled my 1975t from Georgia back to Nebraska last November. It pulls great for a small trailer.
Got twisted on Memorial Day and ordered one. Best stoned purchase of my life…December production date. Time to test the patience..
Nothing better than getting twisted and smoking on my 1975. Smoking and smoking goes together
@@mikerein5854 😂😂 Cheers, mate
Jeremy, thanks for the review. FYI Work Horse says they are adding a ball valve to the production.
I emailed them to inquire and they said they don't take custom requests in their automated response. Can you add any more context to this? I would really like to order one but only if this is true.
@@ragnarlothbrok6240 I believe it was on a FB post, but I can’t find it right now, I’m sitting on an airplane. Anyway it’s a 1” fitting, get a 1”short nipple and a ball valve from Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot. Some have added a 45° or 90°. It’s a couple of bucks if you need it. I have the std 1975. I don’t use one and just set a bucket under it to drain. It’s REALLY easy to move on a flat surface. Jeremy recommended the 1975 to me in July of 2021.
@@ragnarlothbrok6240 I think I spent 35 bucks on a ball valve and adaptor on Amazon. Super easy and cheap
It’s just a 3/4” coupling welded on there. You can to any hardware store get a 3/4” nipple and a ball valve to screw in there. Just like you screw in the plug that it’s comes with.
@@kuerzdogg5052 It’s 1”
Thanks for all the info. I ordered today. Due to inflation it's much more expensive but when you want something of high quality you pay for it
Nice video. I’ve had my 1975 for about a year and I really like it. Draws like crazy and love the oversized firebox
How close are you able to put food to the firebox without it getting burned. I've been looking at the 1975 for a while and wondering how many inches I would be losing and cook surface. And do you use a water pan
I've bn lookn @ this 1975t for awhile & I'm digging it... This wld make a perfect size backyard / travel smoker 4 me.. Good work Jeremy
This is by far my favorite channel. Jeremy explains things and reviews thing so well.
I was waiting for this review, but I was on vacation with crap internet when this vid dropped.
I feel late to the party.
I’m loving my 1975. I picked her up late Feb this year.
I added my own ball valve to mine! Definitely a beast of a cooker! I’ve had mine since October and I’ve loved every minute of it!
What size ball valve did you use
I’m in Cartersville, GA What ball joint did you get?
just placed my order for 1975. production is predicted to start in November. stoked can't wait to cook on this beast
Adding the Drain Valve of your choice is Simple - you have the Threaded Collar that the Plug screws into just substitute for a Valve!
Where can I purchase 1. I've been following your channel for several years, always fantastic advice and knowledge.
Got my 1975 three months ago after waiting 5 months to get it. No trailer model needed. I’ve done 4 cooks on it so far. Still learning fire management. Can’t achieve the five degree difference across the grates as workhorse pits claims. I’m sure it’s me. It’s a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. I keep it in my garage uncovered. It should last 3-4 generations. Cheers!!
Try these tips and you'll get even temps throughout the whole cook: 14 inch splits so they can lay front-to-back, so the entire fire/flames are near the firebox door. 14 inch ensures the entire split lays on the coal bed for an even burn, and less manipulation of the fire. Use the firebox door cracked about an inch, not the bowtie (bowtie was required by insurance for backyard model and causes the flames to be sucked more into the chamber), this helps with less radiant heat on the food too. Limit wind - back pressure from wind coming towards the stack make temps by the firebox 20 degrees hotter. I clip a 2ftx2ft piece of wood to the top of the stack if windy and the wind doesn't come into the stack.
@@mikerein5854 Thanks Mike! Will give the a try on my next cook. I appreciate the advice!
@@Isovapor you're welcome!
@@halomaster9640 My 1975 lives in my garage. I didn’t plan on traveling with it so I didn’t get the 1975 mounted on a trailer.
@@halomaster9640 Get the 1975t. Everything built by primitive pits and workhorse pits is built to standards way above the industry. You won’t go wrong with the 1975 trailer model. Cheers!!
Now that you have fully tested out this 1975T, will you do another comparison video of the 1975 v. Fastback 120 v. Franklin? Would love to see that!
I have an old country wrangler. I believe this is my next pit. I want the normal 1975 model though. I’m having trouble with my wrangler burning the bottom of my food. I can’t wait to get my workhorse, as soon as I can convince my wife it’s a necessity lol
Workhorse Pits's shop is about 15 minutes from my house so I drove up this morning to day to get a first hand look at their smokers in the various sizes and configurations available. I was really curious as to how difficult it might be to lift the cabinet door given that I'll be turning 60 in a few days and I'm only 5' 6" and 160 lbs. As it turns out, I was able to open the chamber door on the 1975t without difficulty. If anything my short stature was probably the bigger challenge as it was almost a full stretch to get the lid all the way back to it's open resting position. Maybe in 10 years, when I'm 70 years old and a 1/2" shorter, opening and closing the door will become a problem, but not today. I was also able to push the 1975t around on its trailer, which gave be confidence that it wouldn't be any trouble manually pushing and maneuvering it into position in my garage.
Would love to see more content on this smoker! Out of all the ones on the market, this is a great deal. JD and team are doing great things in North GA! Thanks for the vid!
Been cooking on my 1969 for over a year...great pit. Thanks for the review
Debating the 1969 vs 1975 now! Hard decision.
@@raadkins16 its only a couple hundread more. Get the 75.
Ordered a 1975 with the Wagon package back in end of November, should be getting it soon, really excited, haven’t heard or seen a bad review and the excellent build quality is always mentioned. Great videos as always.
I’m so glad you did this review. I’ve been on the fence about which stick burner to get for months and I’ve been super interested in this one but needed a good honest review
You won't be disappointed. Really easy to use, cooks amazing bbq
I have one with the wagon package. It cost less than the trailered version and is really easy to move around the yard. Highly recommend it to anyone out there looking for a great pit.
Same here. Love my 1975 wagon
Thanks buddy. I was debating if I should get the wagon or not.
@@ftrevino4493 I move it around a lot and it makes it so much easier. It weighs a ton and with just castors I see it being a huge pain.
The delivery driver said the 1975 wagon is the best of the lineup, for size and ease to move. He would know moving them every week.
Love my 75! Well worth the wait! Ive cooked on several different smokers and I'm most satisfied with the WH 1975!
I went with the 1975 because of build and total cost. My original choice was Lone Star Grillz. But for what you get for the money. Workhorse 1975 was a no-brainer. I love this smoker. It is the easiest stick smoker to cook on.
I have cooked 25 degree weather no problems.
I just got my Workhorse 1975 two weeks ago, and I'm static how great this smoker is. I'm loving it and am happy I chose the right company.👍
I’m thinking of ordering one very soon about how long was the wait ? Thank you
@ryrytoomey I ordered mine on May 31 2022 and received mine about 3 weeks ago, in early February. That's 9 months. However, the guy that brought it to me told me they're not accepting orders right now due to the high amount of backorders. I will still try and see if you can order online. I would buy one sooner the better. It's only gonna get more expensive. They just higher the price by about $200 in 9 months. But once you get it, it's yours forever, it'll outlive you, and no need for another one.
Excellent review. Thoughtful and detailed for those in the market for a backyard pit that will last a lifetime with minimal effort. Thanks Jeremy!
Have you received your 1975t yet? I just ordered a 1975W yesterday.
The folding stack is great for storing the pit under a cover.
I've been looking at getting this exact model. I currently use a pellet smoker and kamado smoker. Been getting into catering and pop ups and wanted an offset on a trailer. This seems like the perfect size. Your review makes me want it even more!
Jeremy, thanks for the review. My workhorse 1975 on casters is going into production in July! Can’t wait. Buying all the accessories over the last 6 months. FYI I’m looking to sell my M1 reverse flow smoker/charcoal/ grill. Very versatile grill . Looking for $1000. New is $3000
Well done. Owned mine for 6 months and love it. I didn’t bother with a trailer and you can save a lot of you aren’t going to tow it around.
One thing I noticed, the damper should stay on the stack so when you put it down, the damper supports the stack and it’s parallel to the pit. I love being able to collapse and cover mine. It was part of my buying decision.
Good stuff!
FYI, I really enjoy your content and well done reviews, but I blame you and Yoder for helping me to become several grand poorer. I think Workhorse owes both of you boys a couple of free hats, at the very least.
@@mtmarcy4495 HAHA Thanks :) I'm not a hat guy, but I'll take a shirt :)
Mine will be ready in November(ordered May 4). I spent a good amount of time researching different brands...Millscale, LSG, Workhorse, and several others. The Workhorse is by far the best value out there, and without sacrificing anything. After all of the add-ons, which puts some of these premium pits well over $5k, and then taking into consideration all of the features of each, Workhorse beats any of them by a mile. The only drawback to the Workhorse is it probably has the longest lead time of any of them, so if you're in the market, get on it now. I was looking forward to seeing your review of this pit, Jeremy. Even more happy I went with Workhorse.
Hey James, did you consider a Shirley fabrication reverse flow smoker. Patio or trailer model
Jeremy I'd love it if you could review the Yoder Kingman. I'm a Kansas kid so i'm a fan of Yoder and i'm also curious about what you'd think about the heat management plate in it. I have one of their pellet smokers and i want an offset now. Love your channel luv Ky, I lived an worked in Lexington back in 04-06. Thank-you
We are looking at purchasing an offset smoker. The Franklin is more expensive than we have in our budget. We are looking at $2-4 thousand. One option we have looked at is the Lang offset smokers. How does the Workhorse brand compare to Lang?
Great review Jeremy. I found this a couple weeks before you started posting videos on it and I've been sitting on the fence, but I think your endorsement is going to sell them some smokers. Just placed my order so I'm not #501 in line. Been on a Kamado Joe for a little over a year and your videos are the best resource out there to get good fast at smoking. Thank you for all your help. Looking forward to start stick burning!
I absolutely love my 1975T! Thanks JD and team! Learned fire management from the Mad Scientist BBQ.
Do you use a grate, or just build a fire on the bottom of the firebox?
I have the 1969 on casters and I wish the grease drain was closer to the firebox. The firebox is super heavy so it leans ever so slightly towards the firebox which means not all the grease makes it to the drain. I'll probably get a scissor jack to level it out during cooks.
The welds on the workhorse are perfect. It truly is an amazing smoker.
Are they?
My order is for the standard version with 4 casters. A trailer, or even the wagon version, would be impossible to get into my back yard without a crane (or convincing two neighbors to let me tear down part of their fences and drive it through their yards).
I've already been thinking about the door weight. I ordered the upper rack on mine, which means it has two more threaded holes for upper thermometers. Since I always use a wireless thermometer, I don't really need them. I figure I could get some steel to make a counterweight and use those threaded holes to attach it.
I ordered mine the same way last week for similar reasons. No way a trailer or wagon was going behind the house.
Ditto. Trailer wouldn’t fit into backyard without tearing out a wrought iron fence, gate is too small.
If you have to move it over grass get 3 sheet of plywood or OSB. Even with the 8 inch casters it will dig or sink into the turf. I also had to use a tow strap and ratchet strap to get it over the flag atone step stones I have in my back patio.
Great video as always. I’m going for my first offset having graduated from BGE to Timberline 1300 pellet and now offset. Based now on owning the 1975 (not going to get T), between Mill Scale 94 vs. 1975 vs. Franklin if you had to just pick one (a money aside) what is your final pick. Note for me size is not as important I am never likely to smoke 3/4 briskets at once (but maybe 2 turkeys or 6 racks).
I built a smoker out of a 3/8 thick pipe and the door was super heavy too. I welded an arm off the back with a pulley on top. I have a steel cable attached to the door that goes over the pulley to a 50lb weight that slides in a track. Sort of like a davit. Its night and day difference.
I hope I can get one of these one day. A small, backyard sized smoker on a trailer is exactly what I need to cook for the people I love. Thanks for the review and if Workhorse Pits sees this know that when I do eventually order this smoker Jeremy is the reason why!
The best reason to splurge on a smoker - to make food for the people you love. And to facilitate fellowship.
Love everything about your videos, Jeremy. Content. Production. Great stuff! It's looking like my 1975t will be ready for pickup in September. Question - Do you build your fire in the workhorse directly on the bottom of the firebox,or do you recommend using a grate to allow for additional airflow?
As far as adding the ball valve. You can go to any hardware store get a nipple and a ball valve. That is a standard coupling just welded on the bottom of the cooker. Looks to be 3/4”.
Are there any good smokers that you can also use as a grill? Like the Englebrecht 1000?
Are you gonna compare this one to the TMG Volunteer??
Awesome Smoker!
I’ve spent a lot of time researching high-quality craft smokers, and I believe this one is the absolute best as far as backyard smokers go. I really enjoy your videos! I’m making a smoker and I’m curious about a couple of measurements on this one:
1. How wide is the cookdoor opening? It looks like 40 inches?
2. How wide is the trim piece that goes around the edge of the cook door? is it 1 1/2 inch wide?
3. What is the frame of the cooking grates made of? It looks like half inch solid square bar.
4. How wide is the Cowboy door opening?
5. How tall is the Cowboy door opening if you measure along the curve of the firebox instead of a straight line?
6. How far apart is the upper cooking grate from the lower cooking great?
7. What’s the distance from the top of the cook chamber to the top of the firebox?
8. How tall is the hole that lets smoke in from the firebox? It looks like it’s half moon shaped with a straight line across the top of the hole maybe 8 or 10 inches tall in the center?
Thanks for showing us this awesome smoker!
What do you prefer - the Workhorse 1975 or the Franklin off set ?
I’ve had a big green egg for 12 years and love it. I’ve also had a Santa Maria grill and plan to get another. That said, I can’t decide if I want to try and get a high quality offset like this to learn or if I want to try and get a Komodo Kamado.
If you decide on a komodo kamado, I recommend you get the 32” big bad. Anything smaller and you’ll regret it. For a Komodo grill nothing touches Dennis’s komodokamado, pick a color you’re grandkids like, it will last forever.
@@tommyjarrell9788 that’s the size I’d like actually for a variety of reasons
The fact that you bought one, says enough. 🍻
Thank you for the eval MS. You have helped me immensely. Much respect.
when are you getting your 1975 delivered?
Hi Jeremy,
how do you still like this 1975 workhorse Offset smoker?
Thanks
Carl
Couldn't agree more on all points, this smoker is an absolute unit! My 1975W earned the nickname Ferrari after the first cook. If you have the means get one, I whole heartedly endorse this product!! Thank you Andrew for the review!
Hello. I am looking to purchase the 1975W. Do you have any issues with the grease drain location? It looks to be sitting right over the cross bar below the cooking chamber. How did you handle placing a grease bucket underneath? Thank you for your time.
@@markhodson5316 It is a bit odd but an easy fix. I used a pair of 1" street 45 degree bends at each end of a threaded ball valve to offset past the cross bar.
@@markhodson5316 Also, stop thinking and buy it, If you can afford it that is. I thought long and hard about it because it is a big chunk of money (I had to pay freight all the way to Colorado too) but it was but worth every penny. The build quality is unmatched and it draws and burns like a dream, even at elevation.
@@eazymunee yes. I was actually waiting on the review of it from Jeremy. Deciding if the wagon package was the to go with the firebox being close to the tires and if there was any issues with the grease drain. Yes shipping is no joke. I am out in California so it’s 20% of the cost. Thank you again for all the info. Nice to hear from someone with the same model I am looking at. Will be placing the order here in the next week or two!
“computational fluid dynamics", Workhorse/Primitive Pits, has spent more money on research and development then any other pit manufacturer, (according to the owner) on how air flows through an offset. Its called computational fluid dynamics, and all that R & D shows in every single one of their pits' performance in keeping a +/- of 5 degrees (again, according to the owner) So it's no surprise they all run as well as they do. The owner has a channel called Quetorials and the vid in where he talks about all this is something like watch this video before purchasing an offset or along those lines. No disrespect meant to Jeremy, however since this is a video on workhorse Pits, I figured it was cool to mention their channel as anyone interested in their pits could watch them. Cheers Jeremy!
Do you think the cowboy firebox is something that would get much use? Or would prefer one without?
Get it for sure just for ease of starting your fires and cleaning the firebox. But the real reason to get it is to reverse sear some ribeyes. I smoke 3.5 inch ribeyes fire 2 hours then sear on the cowboy grill. That sweet wood flavor can’t be replicated any other way.
Thank you for doing a review. I value your opinion. I’ve been looking at this smoker and wanted your opinion as to how it compares to the Franklin and Fatstack. Thanks again!!
Which do you think would be better, a workhorse 1975 or a TMG volunteer?
The folding stack is really a great feature, so don't listen to Jeremy on this :-) The cover you can and should purchase for this fits with the stack folded down. In addition to it making it more compact for storage, I'm also guessing it saved some material costs on the cover. Nevertheless, Primitive, Workhorse's sister company and predecessor, does folding stacks, so I'm guessing they adopted it from them. It is a feature common an large trailer pits. I think it's a great feature, even on a "backyard" pit.
Agree. My garage door opening (which is pretty standard) is 82" high, so at 84", this smoker would not fit with the stack not folded down.
Thank you. Have you ever cooked on a Peoria Cookers ‘Backyard Cooker’?
If the drain is threaded it would be easy to add a valve. Especially if they did npt threads
What do you think about the smaller 1957 or 1969? This certainly fits my size needs and fits better into a budget I maybe able to swing with the better half.
My 1975 arrives next week. Only question I have is the appropriate length/size of splits. Most of my splits are 20 inches and I don’t see anyone online using splits that long.
14 inches. I have a black and decker lopper saw to chop it to length. Easy peasy
I am not in the market for an offset but love your channel . I hope to build one some day just for the fun of doing it,and will use it..
Out of all the available offset pits, that I've seen, this is the one I wanted to get.
I ordered this two weeks ago. The 8 month wait sucks. But they say it’s worth the wait.
I'm curious why you would not go with a reverse flow smoker? The heat just seems to be so much more even with mine. I would hate having it to hot on the top rack and cooler on the bottom. Just really curious about your choice??? thanks
hey there.. what about the baffle (or deflector) is removing it make it make the heat go top down or does it matter? Thanks in advance.
I've noticed that the door on the OLD COUNTRY BRAZOS is 3/16" steel and not 1/4" like the rest of the chamber. Has it always been this way? I was going to buy one until I noticed. I like the size of the Workhorse 1969 but it's a bit out of my price range at the moment.
Great video, I'm planning on purchasing one. Do you think you loose a lot of heat by getting it with the cowboy fire box option?
Why not have levelers on the trailer to keep tires off the ground and to level the smoker?
Love all of your videos! Watch all of the for tips and tricks!!
Do you ever cook on or review reverse flow smokers like a Lang?
Which do you prefer direct flow or reverse flow and why far these types of smokers thanks
When ordering a smoker some ask if you want raw or patina. What’s the difference and what should a beginner start with if it makes a difference
Not answering for Jeremy, but that seems like an odd question to be asked. What one would expect is that you would get it raw (not painted, but seasoned with something like linseed oil) and over time it will develop a patina, much like a carbon steel pan after cooking in it gets darker, but naturally and unevenly so, which looks nice.
are you still getting your Workhorse? Not heard a peep since your review...
He got it. His brother is using it at the moment I believe.
What size ball valve would you suggest / recommend to install on bottom of smoker??
Hi Jeremy! And thank you for all your informatives videos, I love them all !! I scrolled thru all your videos and I couldn’t find a comparison between a offset smoker and a upright cabinet smoker. Cabinet smokers are quite common in Europe and I would like to know that how the taste, smokiness and fuel efficiency differents from each other. Again, super good videos and awesome meats you have there, just let the good times and smoke roll 👌 Greetings from Finland ! 🇫🇮 -Markus
I've had my 1975 for over a year. You ain't lying about that lid. It's heavy for sure. I found out about workhorse when I started researching a new pit about the time Franklins were starting to come out. For the money the Workhorse was a better deal than Franklin and didn't have the crazy wait times like some of the other builders.
How close can you put food on the great to the firebox without it being too hot? How are the temps from firebox side to stack end
@@mikes.3165 check out my latest video where I address that on my 1975
I was on the very edge of ordering one of these last fall when researching and the only reason I
didn’t was I had an opportunity to get a Franklin order (someone gave theirs up) that would arrive in 3 weeks. The benefit of trailer can’t be emphasized enough if you ever think you may want to take it somewhere vs trying to load one with casters. Like you said, you can’t go wrong between the three and I don’t think I’d do anything different, but would love to get one of these on a trailer someday :)
Jeremy when you get a chance can you do a review on a reverse flow, would love to see you review a Shirley fabrication, have you cooked on one and what are your thoughts on it?
Only one you issues why in the world 🌎 you can cut the one inch lower make bottom shelf slide to ?
And from fire box to cook chamber putting half inch lip so the grease won’t drip and firebox ?
You, are my hero. For one thing you're real. For another, grilled food brings a pleasant sensation unto Yashewah.
It’s only my wife and I, how do you think a smaller workhorse like the 57 cook compare to that one? Thanks
How much does a Workhorse 1975t weigh? My vehicle is only rated to tow 2,000 lbs. Thank you.
When are you going to try a Chud box?
Jeremy , how many briskets fit on the bottom shelf without getting into the hotzone near the firebox?
Curious if u have a video on your thoughts comparing traditional offset smokers vs reverse flow off sets??
The selection of smokers here in Norway is beyond awful, but this one is actually available. I had a look at it in the shop, and I must say, it looks one hell of a solid unit. Now to convince the wife that this is a mandatory purchase....
Hi Jeremy
Have you ever cooked on a kamado grill/smoker and what do you think about them?
I have a Yoder Wichita but it is too small for two large briskets so the Workhorse 1975 (cart) will someday be my next smoker.
Absolutely love my 1969. Cooking a brisket on it tonight. Thanks for the review
Debating getting a 1969 or 1975. Been tough to decide !
Same. Tough to decide for backyard use.
Good quality work. I built my own offset and it turned out awesome but I wish I had built it on a trailer. It’s on casters and rolls fine but if on not on concrete it doesn’t roll on grass or rock very well and it super heavy
Great videos, how many smokers do you have outta curiosity?
Thanks for the review Jeremy. I'm going to order one soon. I'm probably going to get the wagon version with the cowboy addition.
Have you tried to add a ball valve ? Just curios if the size is available to add myself and I am ordering one but if the they need to mod it to a different size it would be great to know , thanks.
Super curious now that you’ve cooked on all these high end pits, how do feel the Brazos stacks up now? Has your opinion on that changed? Still waiting for you video on how you like the mods you did to the Brazos too.
Glad to see you gave carnivore a shot! Changed my life.
Anyway you could review a workhorse 1969? I really would be interested in what you think as I don’t need the space a 1975 has, but want a good offset.
I wouldn't mind seeing a review of the 1969 myself. Having said that, I have a 1975t on order even though I'll mostly just be cooking for two, as my wife and I are empty nesters. My reasoning? It's my first smoker and I am convinced that as Jeremy has noted that it will be easier to maintain the fire and temperature on the 24" vs 20" diameter smoker. Plus, I wanted the trailer, even though I think the wagon is pretty kick ass. And I've found that my smoked pork and chicken freeze well, so I'll probably just load it up anyhow.