In my Opinion, one of the most enjoyable things in Destiny 2 were the old Exotic Weapon Quests. Not only the Secret Missions but also Stuff like the Last Word and Ace of Spades Quest. Going through these actually basic Queststeps with one larger Special Mission at the end was some of the most fun I had. Almost every single one is gone now. I think only Chaperone remains
Yup, I was just talking to my friends about this. We haven’t gotten any exotic quests for the longest time and the ones we do have do not come close to holding a candle to previous exotic quests like the ones in foresaken. Destiny just doesn’t feel like Destiny anymore
it contributed to killing destiny for you. You forget other shitty seasons and what we had before all of this. It was your time to stop and plunder was the final straw
Fully agree. The problem is they don't listen to the right players. Everything for the past 2 years or so has been focused on new players and blueberries. All the longtime players are leaving or not playing as much which is shown by the numbers. Shame really.
they dont say their listening. Im not one of those idiots with this, but look at the socials of community managers and such. It isnt addressing any concerns.
@@zachringen2564 maybe not in their socials but they do mention they are aware of players issues in twabs, problem is they usually try to resolve those issues in the stupidest ways.
Something I noticed from sweat in this vid, and I hope bungie notices. This heart to heart was deep and meaningful, but you can hear and see his genuine pain about the game. It's not just deep sighs, it's real hurt.
But knowing bungie they won't care if you're white or a straight male or both. If they can brainwashed people to get rid of Say no to Rage, they'll do it again to Sweat here whenever they want sooner or later. It's time to stop worrying about bungie n time for them to be let go cause people aren't gonna listen to them anymore.
I still remember getting thorn and having to get void handcannon kills in PvP and struggling my ass off because I didn't know 180rpm handcannons were the worst architype. But after all the grind I got the gun and it was all worth the trouble and it was so good... I don't remember the last time I had a similar experience in destiny for an exotic weapon
In my opinion one way to fix strikes is to make them like the Crime spree mode from Payday 2. You run strikes flawlessly and gradually increase rewards the further your spree goes. Then after every strike is successfully run you chose either 1 of 3 modifiers (some bad some good like in Payday 2 it was “shields deflect bullets back at the player” maybe in D2 you have “Elemental shield break leaves a pool of that damage type”). Its a change that really revived heisting in Payday and it could def work with strikes
As far as other games go, I’ve been really liking dmz mode of cod mw2. It mixes pve and pvp pretty well and it’s brand new so hopefully we will see a lot of improvements as the devs see what works and what doesn’t for the game mode. Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of games just like d2 though that you could simply transfer to that would have the same feel as d2 because it’s just so unique. I hope you and other d2 content creators can find other games that you feel passion for like you have for d2
That was my issue when I first stopped playing destiny. I wanted something like destiny but not destiny. But it’s so unique like you said that no game is like it
I feel you. we don't need a destiny killer we need destiny to have Competition. If you are the only dog on the block you can do or NOT do anything you want. Last I love dmz and be careful cause 2 squad can team up
My best friend and I have been on the DMZ train as well. That mode has so much potential to blow up if they can get the bugs ironed out in a timely manner
I’ve bought every DLC, and pre ordered the deluxe of every DLC starting with shadowkeep, but light fall is the first one I haven’t. I don’t feel confident enough in the next year of content to pay over $100 Canadian
i went from destiny to warframe, i was an avid pvp player and personally for me, the game turned into a game where you don’t need to rely on your mechanics any more but how you can build buffs and promote a playstyle that revolves around waiting for supers for the entire game and wastinng everyones time. i used to love being able to improve by playing the game, not by my abilities. i’d only come back to the game for pve, which i also loved. it has just turned into a game where everything is basically given to you
@@bojack4540 yea not sure how they could make it feel better, after playing so much d2 pvp, warframe pales in comparison. It just doesn't fulfill the same itch I have for FPS RPG pvp, but when it comes to pve warframe is stale, once you reach a certain point all you do in missions is just stand around and have all your abilities kill everything around you
@@bojack4540 the thing about destiny is that it keeps you refreshed with a challenge and a reward, things like gm's are a great end game gauntlet, rending even the strongest/cheesiest of builds useless/average, warframe is good for the first 200 hours and imo once you get there it just feels unrewarding, I have around 2000 hrs in d2 total and can say it's the best game I've ever played, but with all things good you have to take breaks, which is something the community is so torn about since there is nothing that feels and plays like d2
Aztecrosses video, coolguy, now you. I want to love destiny, but it's been so awful all around. I'm a pvp player, but even I have a deep rooted love of the secret missions, so hearing they likely aren't going to make them hurts me and many others. The state of the game as if now is horrid. I want to believe bungie is going to "turn this ship around!" But I don't know if they can avoid the iceberg now
someone made a really good point about Activision. Activision brought Vicarious Visions and High Noon studios to work on the game and sure Bungie is free from Activision but those other two extremely important and creative studios are... gone.
@@AdityaRaj2912 Especially while still adding content to last gen consoles. My PS4 Pro on boost mode is strugging to stay at a solid 30fps while in the new seasonal 6 man activities. Also the load times. It should never take 10+ seconds to load a single piece of armor, but here we are
Honestly, I love a TON of the destiny content creators. I’ve been watching you and so many others for so long that no matter what games y’all play, I’m watching. Your opinions on games/destiny is grounded/humble and no matter what content you push out, I’m watching.
From the very bottom of my heart, thank you for standing up for the players / veterans of this franchise, who deserve better than being on a hamster wheel controlled by Bungie & Greed. I acknowledge that you enjoy the basics of the game & you'll continue playing for sake of your personal pleasure, no issues.
Honestly man, I feel like you’ve found your real personality as a content creator a lot more over the last couple months, and that got me to subscribe to you-not just because you play destiny. I like your DougDoug-esque silly videos with twitch chat and stuff, and you can totally do those in other games!
I started watching him more when he started doing less Destiny tbh, the game never was the channel it was the dude. He really is alot like DougDoug who's my favorite creator.
Honestly all the old dlcs that I bought and never got a refund for when they took them out the game really grinder my gears same with the leviathan raid they have taken so much content out and say it’s for the better new content and 9/10 that shit sucks all the seasonal events are bland and based around cosmetics you buy with real cash ever since they made it free to play all around shit tanked
This is very well-spoken and clearly coming from someone who cares and has concerns for something they love. Even tough news to hear can be really engaging and interesting when someone is this passionate.
I have been playing since I was 10, this was the first game I ever fell I love with; that feeling of coming home and playing the game is was got me through a lot of hard times/dark times I would never want to relive but I have slowly seen the game I love die and now I am devastated that it really is gone.
something i loved about the beginning of destiny 2 were the adventures that you could do on all the planets, it really helped root me into the whole universe with smaller stories of less important people, it just made the whole thing feel a lot more real, that and those scannables that were all over where the ghost would tell you something interesting but now there arent any adventures around and most of the scannables dont even tell you anything anymore, its really disappointing because honestly little things like that can really make players care about the civilians of the universe by having us be out in the wilds rather than just up in our ivory tower.
Dam I felt that last part I don’t know what to say beside destiny in the morning destiny in the afternoon destiny at night destiny 24/7 an it’s sad to see the game finally starting to die down an I don’t want that to be the case
I'm just glad to see more Destiny tubers are starting to get the Darkside Royalty Lore perspective now. It may seem like all these guys like Joker, Aztecross, TV, Datto, and yourself Sweat are just complaining, but you're just very passionate fans that express a lot of what the community feels. You all have the same conclusion, but also have your own personal takes as well.
@@samuelhofer7099 Honestly I can see that, and respect that. I have a great liking to Darkside cause he's always been one of the rawest ones out there that has the right grit to really see what's happening, and calling what it is out loud. He's no ass kisser and neither is Aztecross himself. It's just that Joker has had great points, for so damn long that everyone else was kinda too over optimistic if that makes sense?
I enjoy when destiny used to be “okay, I’ll grind for a few months, then take a break for a few while the next expansion comes out.” For some reason I feel I have to complete everything in the game (triumphs) so I always feel like I’m grinding and with the amount of shit they add like ketch, it’s annoying having to play that over and over and over again when it’s not fun, but I have to because it feels like there’s a time limit on the triumphs because no one is going to play it next season so I have to do it all and it’s just.. idk man I’m probably autistic
Tbh you are well known enough to take a break and come back without taking a large view hit. I know if you branched out a bit until things got better I'd keep watching your content.
I think bungie is testing the waters of how much effort and manpower is needed to keep us sustained. The change in the game’s quality and communication from last year to this year is staggering
There was something about the mystery of future updates that was so exciting with each new dlc. Like during warmind; there was this symbol on the wall that people would speculate about for weeks and weeks, or the way you had to search for the small little elemental orbs across Mars. I miss those parts of destiny
Solid video Sweat. Been watching you for years and I think your thoughts reflect the community particularly the daily hardcore players who are now taking extended time away from the game to play other games like Call of duty, Elden Ring and other competitors. Keep up the good work bro.
I absolutely love this game called Deep Rock Galatic- the dev team is incredible, it's only just got off the group and hit a running start. It's role playing, massive opportunity for customising your loadout and so much fun. I really enjoying watching other people play it andI think you would too- plus its best played co-op and some of my favourite videos of mine are when you're playing with others. much love sweaty
Imma just say it: the most fun Ive had with Destiny in the past year was when Sweat did his own quest in game. I just watched it on YT, and it was AMAZING.
Tbh no clue how sweat isn’t bald by still playing without breaks when it’s this bad. I’ll continue to support him and would love to watch him extend his energy and passion for content creation to other games. Same with any job, if you aren’t happy- make a change!
Thanks for providing your history with destiny then providing your opinion. Great perspective, I was there in July 2014 as well and agree with you 💯 New subscriber here along for the ride. You might want to consider some upcoming games like armored core 6, it might be the season of mechs coming up.
my favorite videos of yours have always been ones where you play with Redeem, CB, EvanF, Clyde, etc. i feel like this would be the case regardless of what game you played
I have played Destiny since D1 beta. I've taken a few breaks for the sake of my own mental health and not wanting to let myself get to a point of hating my favorite game. That being said - even when I play Destiny consistently, I enjoy watching people play other games. Even other Destiny content creators. The players take breaks. Streamers should also be able to take breaks. Whether that's just to try another game on or off stream, or a month off to see how you feel afterwards. We are here for you just as much as we are here for Destiny.
The thing is, how about the PVP streamers that do carries or just play because they love to be competitive? People watch them specifically for D2 PVP. If they decided to play something else, a lot of their viewers would disperse. Not everyone has the option to take breaks. Which is why you hear the most complaints from PVP players as well cause they know there's a lot to be fixed and they built their streaming platform off of PVP.
@@NovaSkiesx PVP streamers aren't different from anyone else. Only thing different is the content. And all I can say is if that's truly on someone's mind, they can solve that problem very easily by speaking to their community. But they probably shouldn't put all their eggs in such an unstable basket.
Hey, bud. If youre interested in what a new players experience is. I am about 4 months into being a guardian. And I have considered cancelling my lightfall preorder. I have put 1,100 hours into this game since i got it in August. It fastly became my most favorite game, but the lack of care, and attention by bungie drives me insane. It hurts my heart because i hear about the masterpiece this game USED to be. I hold hope that this season, and lightfall rejuvenates the game and brings it to a place where I can make the memories with this game that you all have in past seasons that changed your lives. I've ultimately decided to give them one final shot with lightfall before calling it quits, because this game scratches an itch that i never knew i had. i just wish there was more content, and it wasnt stale. I dont know how many times i can do the same strikes, the same pvp maps, or the same gambit match i play over and over again. bungie really needs to get it together. However, you my friend have earned a new subscriber. Cheers
I'm surprised you didn't take a break early in shadowkeep, now that was the dark age. And also I just want to say that they should have made a D3 because then they wouldn't have had to worry about flooding the game with too much content and we would keep all the old stuff before beyond light, we could have just gotten a third game and they could've had the witch queen as it's starting poit or something a little different to make it fit and I guarantee destiny would not be in the state that it's in now
It was but I think there was hope there for what’s to come like stasis and story ramifications of the darkness finally here. Whilst now that hope isn’t there, I think people just want the Destiny story finished or some conclusion coming and subconsciously seeing another dlc take place on a secret area and not the city has made people annoyed and frustrated. It feels like the story isn’t coming to a conclusion anytime soon and is being constantly dragged out. The immersion and investment is slowly seeping away.
Honestly I don't see much on how shadowkeep was the dark ages of the game. Plus if they made a destiny 3 it would make things worse most likely than help anything
The problem is that we have had mid to bad content ever since shadowkeep started. The problems we have currently are still the same problems since shadowkeep but people are now getting tired of it. Forsaken and year 2 was the last time the game was overall great.
IDK if you want a list, but single player games are a pretty good option, like potentially some halo games, and ps4 exclusives like Spider Man, God of War, and Ghost of Tsushima. All great options imo.
Honestly for me if I see someone who is really passionate about a game I tend to really enjoy watching them. I myself play so much different games and genres that I'd be open to anything. I feel like everything that has a big sandbox to mess around with would attract a lot of different people. No matter if its technical and informative or just goofing around with mechanics and physics. Probably Hogwarts Legacy could be a nice game to watch you playtrough while having my own adventures.
I know everyone is fatigued right now, but we get these types of "worried about destiny" at the end of a season. But as soon as the season comes out its. OMG NEW SEASON IS INSANE! GOTTA GET THIS GUN. GOTTA PLAY THIS SUCH AND SUCH AND GET THIS. Just tired of it all. Bungie needs to actually put the money into things the community says. And not what brings in the most money.
yeah but this one has been heavier than usual and I feel like if it keeps up, its going to actually cause long term damage to the playerbase and if that happens Bungie will realize they screwed up way too late.
@@Nitroband don't get me wrong I agree with you 100% I guess it's more of a streamers are just gonna make content however they can and gives a false image of how the game really is. I don't blame them for this. Sweat is actually way better than most streamers in this regard.
This is exactly how i feel, but this is what i think, even for bungie which communicates an insane amount with us, there is no way community could make an impact on a financial desicion of a company
I give you credit for being able to break this down into 28 minutes, because the LIST of issues that cycles around Bungie can be discussed for hours in. I hope this company and Destiny 2 can change for the better.
Its hard i think for all of us to see a game we have all cherished at one point or another. I started playing the destiny franchise when i was 11 and now im 20 and i still love the game but some of the changes and lack of fixes make it really hard to justify playing, for me destiny is so much more than just a game its where i met some of my best friends, where ive had some of my best moments, and where ive grown in skill as a player. So its hard to let it go but you made so many valid points like we all want to see the game succeed but it feels like after witch queen launch which was so promising for the game it all went downhill. In my opinion for the game to succeed it need to get new crucible maps, more strikes and long term item grinds. What i mean by that is like with luna’s howl and not forgotten, could u imagine how much people would stick around if they had weapons u could earn from playing gambit, strikes, and competitive. Destiny needs more stuff to grind for over a season without making overly complicated and difficult (for casuals). If i were to say one thing about new lights is they need help on how to get weapons and do quests, thats why they dont stay so why not invest in a system that gives the player more aide when they first start.
Being here since 2014, over the years. Especially now, it feels like they are trolling. It seems as if they want the game to die. They have had so many opportunities to make the game the greatest it’s been yet. On top of every issue we are having right, this makes it only worse thinking like this. It’s very degrading as the player.
@@buen0_ it’s really sad to see one of the biggest games ever, arguably the biggest looter-shooter ever being in such shambles. It’s not like we are even asking for much… it’s just over time these little things we want for the game have created such a list because we never get what we want as a community. Being shunned by the developers of your favorite game is the worst feeling.
They made trials fun and everyone was enjoying it, trials was at an all time high, then they change it for some reason, it's they're fault if the game dies they are the only thing that can kill destiny
@@ReignHao yup, I’ve played since D1 as well and it’s just sad to see how the game has slowly been going to shit as I grow up I’m in the same boat as sweat, I want to believe light fall and the next season will be better, but my expectations are pretty low. I’m just hoping Bungie can come to their senses and do justice to the game that so many people love
One thing that makes me sad is that i used to love this game. Way back when, i used to be excited to do raids with the bois and even just do some crucible but now i just log on, go to the tower and then log out. Ive sunk countless hours into this game and it really pains me to see the game in such an awkward state. I get that bungie cant just make the game perfect with a click of their heels, but nowadays it feels like bungo arent even listening to the people that actually play the game
I've really been getting into Risk of Rain 2 recently. Lots of fun, great with friends. Also, if you've never played Portal 1 or 2, I would watch the hell out of your play-throughs of those games. Two of the best games of all time.
This was a great video and it’s a breath of fresh air to see that not all content creators are blind Destiny shrills. I think honest opinions like the ones expressed in this video come from a place of passion, and only serve to improve the game and the community that surrounds it. Let’s just hope Bungie is listening.
I think the main thing for this season specifically was just where it happens to be in a spot where people r just burnt out with there being a little to no reason to play as for the community event stuff it's just felt like a middle finger to those of us who want to be invested in something
When you mentioned that people were telling you they had been refunding their pre-orders I realized I wasn't alone at all. This season has given me the opportunity to wean off of my addiction, and after I get what I paid for next season I'm uninstalling the game, hopefully for good. I had the Lightfall Collector's Edition pre-ordered. It's been canceled, and now I can let myself play and love other games. It's been rough.
Agreed, very well said. They cured my addiction and fomo. I was able to sit out of the game since the beginning of October and uninstalled the game since then. Unpreordered my lightfall collectors edition as well. Been enjoying other games and hopefully never make a return to this time wasting machine
I don't play much D2 anymore but I watch your videos just because I find you enjoyable. I'd probably watch anything you played just because it's a new Sweat upload
I’m not gonna lie, i think once destiny goes under, i’ll be done with gaming. I’ve yet found another game that can capture me like it has for the past 8 years
Honestly Sweat, Destiny 2 brought me to your stream and UA-cam channels and all the goofy stuff you do on both has kept me as a viewer. I know you haven’t uploaded any of them but the play throughs of all the single player games on stream recently have been really good and you still find a way to interact with the viewers that’s hilarious. If you “quit” Destiny I’d stick around for the content YOU make not the game. Much love man and keep your head up.
The biggest issue I think Destiny itself has, is they try to fit their seasonal model too well. As a result, the 3 core activities have been neglected to hell and back, every major seasonal event feels like an afterthought meant to sell cosmetics, and a lot of the charm we had from Forsaken-Era (Primarily involving the secrets on the Dreaming City, the Exotic Quests, etc.) just feels missing. A lot of the special things we saw towards the end of Rise of Iron and Forsaken aren't there anymore, and it's starting to wear the game itself down. Witch Queen was good, but immediately after that we went back to this same seasonal loop we've been on since 2019. No real secrets to uncover in the throne world, just the main story, a bit of extra content for an exotic, and back to business-as-usual. When your core content, the content that F2P players can play, feels like it hasn't changed since Forsaken, then there's gonna be no player retention. Strikes have never gotten revitalizing, PVP gets abandoned for long stretches of time, and Gambit has only gotten worse with most revisions. And to top it all off, we've LOST content from the core-modes because of the DCV. I'm 100% for the opportunity for Bungie to give us a "Season of Health" or something where they do nothing but focus on fixing up the core modes. Giving them better rewards, reworking aspects of them, etc. The game is in desperate need of a fix for those modes, or the game is going to continue to be this cycle of, "Seasonal Activity + Core Modes" with a 1 month break every major expansion.
Hearing your voice and how genuinely sad and concerned you are about this hit me kinda hard. I sympathize with you Sweat and I really hope things do get better in Destiny, but if not, I also hope you find success and enjoyment in whatever else you decide to dedicate yourself to.
Things That Will save Destiny (prepare its gonna be long): 1. Dedicated Servers and Improved Netcode. 2. Clan Wars - PvP / Gambit between clans, leaderboards, best clans events. 3. Proper In game LFG system, player stats viewer & inventory management system... 4. PvP Competitive leaderboard, tournaments. 5. Real Exotic quest lines, More dungeons, raids, secret missions. 6. bring back lost campaigns with Legendary mode and cosmetic / exotic rewards - Use one of them as a proper introduction to the game. 7. Fix Gambit - Remove Invading, add a competitive ranked leaderboard with Increased Difficulty at higher ranks. 8. Proper vehicle related usage & activities - ship battles, sparrow racing, sparrows with guns?! 9. Public chat in PVP & voice chat for comp / cw 10. Ditch the braindead seasonal fake hoard mode activities and kindergarden level story telling to focus on the above. 11. Remove bounties from vendors, put it permanently as a part of the UI somewhere so you don't need to pick it up every time 12. Give the vendors some of their own quest lines, is that's an opportunity to finally add some dialoge options? 13. Remove light levels, its so tiring and depressing to level up each season just to unlock THE SAME activities + Its confusing as hell to new players... Solution: reset power to 0 for all guardians, 0-50 easy rank up, 50-80 hard rank ups, 80-99 very hard rank ups. Rank ups are tied to activities completions and NOT random pinnacle drops. once per year reset everyone who is over 80 back to 80, - no more light level confusion and weirdness to everyone involved. Things that ruin PVP : Invis Hunters, Shield Bashing Titans, Shot through barricades, Instant healing, Overshields, Blinding Effects, Movement Slowing Effects, Grenade Launchers, Sidearm, SMGs, Pulse rifles meta, Slow swapping / ADS, Flinch, ridiculous aim assist on Controllers, Bad maps, The fact that only team shooting is a viable option, Melee teleportation, Lack of Competitive Leaderboards & Tournaments, Insanely Bad Team Balancing & Horrid Connections. Things that will kill Destiny: 1. Lack of Innovation and creativity 2. Neglecting PVP 3. Reducing skill gap by nerfing anything that requires skill while supplying players with broken abilities, weapons, ridiculous aim assist. 3. Changing the meta every month to pretend that the game is alive and fun instead of actual new missions and proper events that respect player time. 4. the 5248th forgettable & boring "go there fight 3 waves, get stalled, throw a ball somewhere, fight some miniboss that you could melt in 2 sec who has an annoying anti damage shield untill you kill some champion somewhere or dunk another ball. 6. 7000 little balance patches & changes to perks every week.
all this time spent growing and learning on UA-cam. Rest easy knowing some of us stick around because we enjoy watching you mate! I can tell you whatever you decide to do going forward, I'll be watching :)
For me personally I’ve played this game for 3 years, done every raid and seals etc. and it was the power level grind that got me to leave. Yes the season was very bad with the activities, but normally I would have at least stayed for gms and stuff but playing crucible or strikes ( the same strike I’ve played 400 times, that’s were I drew the line. I haven’t been playing since the beginning of plunder
Agreed Sweat, It's a rough spot for everyone playing right now, casual, top notch, or wherever people fall under. There is so much content in the game but none of it matters. The cycle needs to be broken somehow, so its not us playing hard during the start of the season, a little bit halfway through, and then die off at the end just to come back later. Same for expansions, a load of people play at the start, they play the first season, and then start to disappear. I understand they can't make new content every day, but at least try not to use copy paste every season. I swear, its been collect this to dunk it into this so that the thingamajig will do this exc. Every. Season. I love the game, I want it to still be around for a while, and I'm hoping they'll do something about it all.
That's the biggest thing for me, I don't understand how so many resources are being used to copy paste each season and that is somehow draining and overworking the company. As mentioned in the video, they were pushed to meet harsh deadlines under activision, once split it's almost like they cut that work ethic in half. I also love the game and it is scary asf to see it go this far downhill after being on the highest point a couple years ago.
things that made me actually enjoy the game - exotic quests which are actually worth for - actually good god rolls - grinding power level to gain access to a specific mission - secret missions
yep... the game definitely needs more secret missions that you can discover randomly... the mission from the whispern of the worm was insane. The campaign and the story also need to be much longer. Escalation protocol and the menagerie would also be cool again.
i disagree with half that i think the legendaries and exotics coming out these day have the most interesting perk combos to date in the history of the game ie: jolt shot however there is literally no content to use them in. everything is either unbelievably brain dead easy or artificially difficult like gms. balanced content is few and far between
I've been playing for years but this season is the first time i didnt reach the pinnacle cap. Warlock 3.0 identity crisis pretty much killed my immersion to the world of destiny. New pve activities felt like strikes with another coat of paint. My group of friends even agreed to not buy the lightfall dlc if we didnt get hooked next season.
Stop playing the game, delete your chars so you can never go back and get your life back. In did the same a few weeks ago. Just do it. It will free your mind, start doing sports, get your life together and keep working on yourself. Believe me: You won‘t miss D2 for even one minute! The game is toxic, makes you sick, is damaging your brain in so many ways and will break your real life. Don‘t even waste one more minute. I deleted all my 3 chars with 165 days of playtime. All Exo‘s, all god rolls, all crafted guns gone forever. You can do it too!!!
I would say to continue what you do. You’re spontaneous and entertaining and probably the only entertaining D2 content creator on here besides SirD. But, I would definitely recommend some funny party games with your raid squad like Mario Party, Golf with Friends, etc. I feel like taking that break and branching off into things like this would work wonders for you and you’re definitely funny af to pull it off 🙏🏻
I also started at D1 Beta, and played up until this year. Something just happened and I could not bare to spend more than 10 mins in the game at this point. To me that was rather surprising considering I was keeping up playtime numbers on par with some D2 streamers. I can't help but feel the game has had a lot of it's ppl diverted to the next project, and the upper brass are not letting those they left in charge make any substantive changes. It feels like when in D1 they kept sinking QoL stuff to up the time spent in game. That was a rough one.
Here are some recommendations: rainbow 6, overwatch, single player games[spiderman, god of war, the last of us), there is a mobile game called marvel contest of champions its kinda cool sometimes, and a few horror games like five nights at Freddy's(there is alot lol as well as the fan games are kinda cool) , Cod zombies b03 b04 b0cw iw zombies , try the division maybe? Also it would be hilarious to see you do asmr 😂. Maybe try rocket league, resident evil games (7 is good), also try omgle 😂
For a game you would enjoy I feel like Warframe would be a big one and there is no lack of content The dev team is so tentative to the community it's kinda heartwarming in a way constant updates with no lack of content it's very enjoyable:)
@@DarkChibiWeebie normally I would agree but I’m also the type of person to have all of the primes and every tenet and lich weapon at 60% status. Also railjack maxed. Not so much 24/7 but I have played every part of the game at least a few times.
There is no lack of what? Warframe can be done in under than ~1000 of ingame “time spent” counter if you are good at trading. By “done” I mean getting the 30-ish ranks, having everything you need, max rank syndicates, completion of all quests available etc. Endgame in Warframe is like fashionframe and farming plat. Warframe content-wise is timegated and is focused on “farm this to level this so you can get higher rank”. And new content is dropping with the same frequency as it does in Destiny if not less often. And what do you get? 5 hours tops quest with plotholes, new guns and a frame to grind which you will forget about in like a day after having some fun with them and returning to meta afterwards. Yeah I get it it’s “FREE AND WHAT DO YOU WANT”, but keeping in mind that monetisation became more aggressive (prime resurrections, market price crashes, “we will not make quest frames prime uh huh no 🧢” etc.), DE getting acquired by some Chinese lads and having financing, that’s not a thing to point at. As a veteran of both Destiny and Warframe I can objectively say that mid and late-season frustration that Destiny delivers is nowhere near the frustration that Warframe delivers with constant delays, missed opportunities, false promises, expectation exaggeration etc. Not even speaking about the fact that “new content” that is often delivered in updates can be done in under a week of focused grinding, so you get your frustration and content drought days after an update. Almost every season in Destiny however keeps you invested at least for a month if not even more. I, personally, had a lot of things to do this season until ~mid to end of October. And I was grinding really hard.
I get not being able to key hole yourself financially. I for one will continue to watch whatever you put out there sweat. Keep your head up man. You are good at what you do and the passion is their. Keep having fun and remember its a grind. You have got this man.
I played Destiny 2 when it came out, quit on Curse Of Osiris and came back when the Witch Queen came out. I play RPGs often and played the heck out of Destiny 2 till Osiris, but even I found it extremely overwhelm by the amount of things I had to learn and things I had to look up online to catch up with the game. I assume an average gamer who just wanna give the game a try usually wouldn’t do that. They just quit.
Ah, I see it's that time of the annual quarter for Sweat to make a plea to Bungie to get their shit together. I love you Sweat and I loved Destiny for a long long time but it's gone. It's time to just move on.
Worth giving Final Fantasy 14 a try as an option for variety stuff. It’s a slow burner so you can go through at your own pace for free for the first 2 expansions. You can drop in and out anytime you want, and with friends/a helpful community it’s even better. I like watching new peeps run through the story and raid content personally. And if ya don’t end up liking it, it comes at no cost 10, 50, 100 hours in.
Thank you man, more people need to speak up about this. As a HARDCORE player I cannot keep just helping people. I have nothing to do, all I have to do is help others with duality or kings fall. There's nothing else, the game is dying
Lightfall will be nothing but a good campaign and a raid again. No crucible maps like 1-2 strikes a few exotics and that’s it. People say WQ was the greatest expansion ever but it wasn’t. The only good thing about was the campaign and vow.
Getting to the point that you can comfortably do variety is one of the best things you can do for yourself. Your edits and humor is good enough to carry you dude, you'll make it just fine. For other games I enjoy watching, I watch Hunt: Showdown, friend groups playing party games such as Jack in the Box, I still watch League of Legends stuff from time to time, Elden Ring videos (PvP mostly), along with a variety of RL stuff ranging from mountain bikes to pet grooming lol.
I'd personally love to see you continue your Elden Ring playthrough, Fromsoft make some of the best games on the market and I think you could do some good stuff within their worlds.
I feel like we have this conversation every year or two I really don’t think it’s going to be a bad time, I’m willing to bet my life that Lightfall is going to bring a huge revival to the game, the problem is that we’re in such a content drought that it’s hard to do anything but look at the bad in the state of the game right now
I've never seen this many people quit Destiny before. I've always monitored it. Even some of my die hard friends quit and said it's just too dated. The engine is old, taking away paid content, and that there just isn't a way to recapture that for them.
Never thought I'd see the day when even the big creators are saying they miss Activision and the game was better under their leadership. I knew it wasn't gonna turn out well when it was announced because I knew the value and quality of work Vicarious Visions and to a lesser extent High Noon brought to the game and I knew Bungie couldn't keep up the same quality and amount of content without their help. Also I knew Activision was making them get content out on time and made sure it was up to standards as well, so without anybody overseeing them they could take much longer to do less.
I know it’s probably not the best example, However, fallout 76 is doing a good job of retaining there player base through daily missions, and events. I mean fuck destiny fans are so loyal if they just made our guns slightly scuff over time people would try to have the most scratched up “used” weapons. It’s really disappointing to see bungie starting to look at us as just income instead of players. It really feels like they only put out the bare minimum to cash a paycheck.
It really feels like destiny originally tried to cater to the "hardcore" part of its playerbase when there was never going to be a way to meet expectations (not endgame players but specifically people putting in huge numbers of hours) and has left them in the dust in favour of casuals who pay the same price and are happy with a few weeks of content spread out over the year for 100 bucks. That was fine when was just focused on being a looter shooter as you have infinite replayability in the slot machines that are 5 random rolled perk weapons that you want God rolls of eventually. This even covers content droughts to an extent, as the hardcore people may want a 5/5 god roll badly enough to keep playing, but it also allowed casuals to get the two or three perks they wanted and drop out without sweating for God rolls. The transition to focusing more on destiny as an MMO has been painful. MMOs are meant to have incredibly grindy aspects to keep players playing, but also ways for those people to be rewarded for sharing the spoils of the time spent with the community through auction houses, gear swapping, and earnable cosmetics. Destiny has the grind, but less loot incentive than before, and none of the systems in place to make chasing more than one god roll worth while. Imagine selling all your god roll seasonal weapons to other players for crafting materials if you were just looking for red borders, or auctioning your second 5/5 god roll the week season dropped for huge amounts of currency. It means casual players can engage by farming crafting mats or getting random rolls, but certain systems are intended for hardcore grinders. It does not help that currently almost all currencies are worthless with huge disparities between new and old players on stuff like legendary shards which are directly proportional to how much you've played and not what you've played. Mats like ascendent shards that new players would love to buy currently are stuck in the inventories of players who have more than they know what to do with. I'd also love if we could swap fireteams loot in raids and dungeons. If I get the god roll my clanmate is looking for, why can I not swap him the gun before we even exit the instance. Lock it after that so you can't just have people buy endgame loot, but let people decide what they want on their way in and ask for specific drops as you go. Sure it might create some tension in LFGs, but it works fine in other games where you can just decline trades and move on.
They killed their lore. They killed the secret missions. The killed the vast majority of exotic quests. Half the locations are gone. Half the raids. They sunset gear and then brought back some of them. This is now a game I play when I'm bored. Just need two months to catch up on two years worth of content.
Bungie has to turn up drop rate on exotics from raids, add matchmaking for raids, and make the raids able to be completed without having to study UA-cam videos. There you go, done. Until they do that they will not retain players. It's the same thing over and over and over. Same activities same shortcomings every season.
14:50 something you kind of talked around without specifically saying it was despite complaining about deadlines and having kept the same 4 season 1 expansion per year strategy…. Now they have much less manpower to meet those same deadlines…. Which is likely a big reason there is less content which is and sub-par
I think if bungie decides to release a whole season based souly on fixing the general health of the game, give them 4 months without needing to work on anything but reinvigorating the core playlists, fixing up the strikes, making better play lists for crucible, completely reworking gambit and remaking a lot of the loot pools by re adding the ability to gain access to long forgotten armour ornaments to help diversify the lot pools as well as adding serval more activities and things for the player base to work towards, maybe separating strikes from the actual world maps to give bungie the ability to edit, change and work on pre-existing strikes.
I grinded Season of the Haunted for the reaper title, and week 1 I really enjoyed it and then as it went on, week by week, same grinding for Bound Presence to try and get a red border, same grinding the repetitive bounties on the Direlect Leviathan, same losing in PVP because someone had a better gun, I just got sick of it and quit, tried to come back in Season of Plunder and after that first mission and seeing the flow was gonna be the same I just quit altogether
In my Opinion, one of the most enjoyable things in Destiny 2 were the old Exotic Weapon Quests. Not only the Secret Missions but also Stuff like the Last Word and Ace of Spades Quest.
Going through these actually basic Queststeps with one larger Special Mission at the end was some of the most fun I had. Almost every single one is gone now. I think only Chaperone remains
Parasite?
@@mynameisandrew9878 True, I forgot about that one
Yup, I was just talking to my friends about this. We haven’t gotten any exotic quests for the longest time and the ones we do have do not come close to holding a candle to previous exotic quests like the ones in foresaken.
Destiny just doesn’t feel like Destiny anymore
I really liked the parasite missions, those were/are fun
Sweet business has one also
I like how it's impossible to make any of my friends play this game, they don't get past the tutorial and i remain solo once again
so true
Felt that
This really is true. Tried to get friends to play this. Fortunate enough to get ONE friend to play it just to eventually stop lol.
And the huge paywall
Same for me
When playing your favorite game feels more like an abusive relationship than a fun time.. time for a break.
A break? Cut ties completely. They don't deserve your attention...
Thats crazy i explained how i felt to my friend who also plays destiny and i used the EXACT wording as you. Glad someone else feels the same.
That’s so true, it’s hard to accept but is healthy to realise
@@matthewbeale8570 Just played yesterday and same old stuff, boring, and don't see any of my old friends playing anymore, over 200 of them gone.
@@grantmx4742 haven't touched it in a few years.. It's not my cup of tea anymore.. I've moved over to sim racing. And loving it...
Season of the plunder killed destiny for me
You're acting as if undying and worthy aren't worse seasons like they are
@@iwuvtrees9568 atleast they had some decent raids and somewhat playable crucible at the time
@@iwuvtrees9568 plunder is worse imo
@@iwuvtrees9568 those were like a shallow wound to me, Plunder followed through with the kill
it contributed to killing destiny for you. You forget other shitty seasons and what we had before all of this. It was your time to stop and plunder was the final straw
This is the worst feeling because I can hear the devs saying we are listening and then make the game worse, it happens every time
You said it for me. It’s a sad time for us guardians. I’m playing GOW and MW2 until Bungie peaks my interest again…
Fully agree. The problem is they don't listen to the right players. Everything for the past 2 years or so has been focused on new players and blueberries. All the longtime players are leaving or not playing as much which is shown by the numbers. Shame really.
they dont say their listening. Im not one of those idiots with this, but look at the socials of community managers and such. It isnt addressing any concerns.
@@zachringen2564 maybe not in their socials but they do mention they are aware of players issues in twabs, problem is they usually try to resolve those issues in the stupidest ways.
@@boneidle8420 The community managers cant do anything
Being dedicated to destiny feels like being in a toxic relationship
Just like WoW players lol
Something I noticed from sweat in this vid, and I hope bungie notices. This heart to heart was deep and meaningful, but you can hear and see his genuine pain about the game. It's not just deep sighs, it's real hurt.
But knowing bungie they won't care if you're white or a straight male or both. If they can brainwashed people to get rid of Say no to Rage, they'll do it again to Sweat here whenever they want sooner or later. It's time to stop worrying about bungie n time for them to be let go cause people aren't gonna listen to them anymore.
@@Derivedwhale45 the thing I wish it was only bungie. Every company nowadays is just unloading these hot steaming piles of dogshit on everybody
@@WXYKE nah it’s been mostly destiny rn.
@@fuzzy3383 the new Pokemon game is an example
I still remember getting thorn and having to get void handcannon kills in PvP and struggling my ass off because I didn't know 180rpm handcannons were the worst architype. But after all the grind I got the gun and it was all worth the trouble and it was so good... I don't remember the last time I had a similar experience in destiny for an exotic weapon
In my opinion one way to fix strikes is to make them like the Crime spree mode from Payday 2. You run strikes flawlessly and gradually increase rewards the further your spree goes. Then after every strike is successfully run you chose either 1 of 3 modifiers (some bad some good like in Payday 2 it was “shields deflect bullets back at the player” maybe in D2 you have “Elemental shield break leaves a pool of that damage type”). Its a change that really revived heisting in Payday and it could def work with strikes
Dude this is legit good
@@pappgergo1218 what i gave is a tldr look up Payday 2 crimspree to see what im talking about in more detail
@@jamesc2889 oh i know payday 2, crimspree is one of my favorit thing in it 😃
@@pappgergo1218 then yeah you get me that’d be perfect for strikes.
@@jamesc2889 100%
As far as other games go, I’ve been really liking dmz mode of cod mw2. It mixes pve and pvp pretty well and it’s brand new so hopefully we will see a lot of improvements as the devs see what works and what doesn’t for the game mode. Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of games just like d2 though that you could simply transfer to that would have the same feel as d2 because it’s just so unique. I hope you and other d2 content creators can find other games that you feel passion for like you have for d2
That was my issue when I first stopped playing destiny. I wanted something like destiny but not destiny. But it’s so unique like you said that no game is like it
I feel you. we don't need a destiny killer we need destiny to have Competition. If you are the only dog on the block you can do or NOT do anything you want. Last I love dmz and be careful cause 2 squad can team up
My best friend and I have been on the DMZ train as well. That mode has so much potential to blow up if they can get the bugs ironed out in a timely manner
True, I’m going to get into cod and any other games I own once I realised this loop destiny provides
You can generally feel how frustrated he is with how the game is going, I feel you man and i hope things get better and change.
I’ve bought every DLC, and pre ordered the deluxe of every DLC starting with shadowkeep, but light fall is the first one I haven’t. I don’t feel confident enough in the next year of content to pay over $100 Canadian
Same
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I just refunded today, unless they show they're going to change I'm not going to preorder
How dude.. jesus have some self control
its a crazy ammount of money for a live service
i went from destiny to warframe, i was an avid pvp player and personally for me, the game turned into a game where you don’t need to rely on your mechanics any more but how you can build buffs and promote a playstyle that revolves around waiting for supers for the entire game and wastinng everyones time. i used to love being able to improve by playing the game, not by my abilities. i’d only come back to the game for pve, which i also loved. it has just turned into a game where everything is basically given to you
Warframe is awesome i used to play it a lot
True but warframe pvp is terrible lol
@@rickythebobbyy its sadly non existent like warframe in 2022 made so much for the game and its so enjoyable but legit they should just pls rework PvP
@@bojack4540 yea not sure how they could make it feel better, after playing so much d2 pvp, warframe pales in comparison. It just doesn't fulfill the same itch I have for FPS RPG pvp, but when it comes to pve warframe is stale, once you reach a certain point all you do in missions is just stand around and have all your abilities kill everything around you
@@bojack4540 the thing about destiny is that it keeps you refreshed with a challenge and a reward, things like gm's are a great end game gauntlet, rending even the strongest/cheesiest of builds useless/average, warframe is good for the first 200 hours and imo once you get there it just feels unrewarding, I have around 2000 hrs in d2 total and can say it's the best game I've ever played, but with all things good you have to take breaks, which is something the community is so torn about since there is nothing that feels and plays like d2
Aztecrosses video, coolguy, now you. I want to love destiny, but it's been so awful all around. I'm a pvp player, but even I have a deep rooted love of the secret missions, so hearing they likely aren't going to make them hurts me and many others. The state of the game as if now is horrid. I want to believe bungie is going to "turn this ship around!" But I don't know if they can avoid the iceberg now
someone made a really good point about Activision. Activision brought Vicarious Visions and High Noon studios to work on the game and sure Bungie is free from Activision but those other two extremely important and creative studios are... gone.
I love destiny, and i already accepted that the best days of this game are behind us. The sad part is that i can't go back and replay it :/
The good things where Year 2 and Black Armory.
Yes, that sucks big time. If they had just made d3 and left d2 intact .... we'd be playing it instead of this shitshow
@@wagonweel4200 fr man you cant cling to one game for 8 fucking years and 10 dlc lol. d3 would be so much better
@@AdityaRaj2912 Especially while still adding content to last gen consoles. My PS4 Pro on boost mode is strugging to stay at a solid 30fps while in the new seasonal 6 man activities. Also the load times. It should never take 10+ seconds to load a single piece of armor, but here we are
true.... :/ good ol' times...
I’ve been here for a good few years now, and I’ll say I’ll watch you no matter what game you play! Somehow you make anything entertaining
Honestly, I love a TON of the destiny content creators. I’ve been watching you and so many others for so long that no matter what games y’all play, I’m watching. Your opinions on games/destiny is grounded/humble and no matter what content you push out, I’m watching.
From the very bottom of my heart, thank you for standing up for the players / veterans of this franchise, who deserve better than being on a hamster wheel controlled by Bungie & Greed. I acknowledge that you enjoy the basics of the game & you'll continue playing for sake of your personal pleasure, no issues.
Honestly man, I feel like you’ve found your real personality as a content creator a lot more over the last couple months, and that got me to subscribe to you-not just because you play destiny. I like your DougDoug-esque silly videos with twitch chat and stuff, and you can totally do those in other games!
Fr he’s separate his personality from the game and is enjoyable to watch bc of him not the game
W dougdoug recognition, he’s become my favorite content creator over the past couple years
I started watching him more when he started doing less Destiny tbh, the game never was the channel it was the dude. He really is alot like DougDoug who's my favorite creator.
Honestly all the old dlcs that I bought and never got a refund for when they took them out the game really grinder my gears same with the leviathan raid they have taken so much content out and say it’s for the better new content and 9/10 that shit sucks all the seasonal events are bland and based around cosmetics you buy with real cash ever since they made it free to play all around shit tanked
This is very well-spoken and clearly coming from someone who cares and has concerns for something they love. Even tough news to hear can be really engaging and interesting when someone is this passionate.
I have been playing since I was 10, this was the first game I ever fell I love with; that feeling of coming home and playing the game is was got me through a lot of hard times/dark times I would never want to relive but I have slowly seen the game I love die and now I am devastated that it really is gone.
so u didnt played D1? damn what a loss...
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something i loved about the beginning of destiny 2 were the adventures that you could do on all the planets, it really helped root me into the whole universe with smaller stories of less important people, it just made the whole thing feel a lot more real, that and those scannables that were all over where the ghost would tell you something interesting but now there arent any adventures around and most of the scannables dont even tell you anything anymore, its really disappointing because honestly little things like that can really make players care about the civilians of the universe by having us be out in the wilds rather than just up in our ivory tower.
I was hoping for new scannables in beyond light
I, too, miss scannable story fragments!
Dam I felt that last part I don’t know what to say beside destiny in the morning destiny in the afternoon destiny at night destiny 24/7 an it’s sad to see the game finally starting to die down an I don’t want that to be the case
I still get little notifications that there are new adventures!😭
@@Ghost-qp6yz yeah I get those randomly in the helm, I miss them
I'm very saddened by Destiny 2, if I started today as a new light I would of dropped it. It's the best game I can't recommend to someone.
the only way id recommend destiny to a new light is if i had a $1000 account with everything in the game ready to go
i feel like ive seen every destiny youtuber make at least 4 videos with a title like this
I'm just glad to see more Destiny tubers are starting to get the Darkside Royalty Lore perspective now. It may seem like all these guys like Joker, Aztecross, TV, Datto, and yourself Sweat are just complaining, but you're just very passionate fans that express a lot of what the community feels. You all have the same conclusion, but also have your own personal takes as well.
Darkside is a bad example imo, dude literally only complains, like once every day or two, it's honestly annoying.
BUT JOOOOOKER
@@samuelhofer7099 Honestly I can see that, and respect that. I have a great liking to Darkside cause he's always been one of the rawest ones out there that has the right grit to really see what's happening, and calling what it is out loud. He's no ass kisser and neither is Aztecross himself. It's just that Joker has had great points, for so damn long that everyone else was kinda too over optimistic if that makes sense?
@@jesseritchie9282 yeah, that's fair too, there is a little too much optimism usually when talking about this game
@@samuelhofer7099 it’s better to be optimistic than pessimistic. Darkside is just a person you don’t want to side with
I enjoy when destiny used to be “okay, I’ll grind for a few months, then take a break for a few while the next expansion comes out.” For some reason I feel I have to complete everything in the game (triumphs) so I always feel like I’m grinding and with the amount of shit they add like ketch, it’s annoying having to play that over and over and over again when it’s not fun, but I have to because it feels like there’s a time limit on the triumphs because no one is going to play it next season so I have to do it all and it’s just.. idk man I’m probably autistic
Tbh you are well known enough to take a break and come back without taking a large view hit. I know if you branched out a bit until things got better I'd keep watching your content.
Gladd is doing really well as a variety streamer who always comes back to Destiny. Hopefully sweat can do the same.
Best point to take a brake is after you get the raid seal. After that point like this season the game is so dry that there’s nothing to do
I think bungie is testing the waters of how much effort and manpower is needed to keep us sustained. The change in the game’s quality and communication from last year to this year is staggering
They're slowly transitioning to their new IP, and plunder was an experiment to see how little we need for us to still pay
There was something about the mystery of future updates that was so exciting with each new dlc. Like during warmind; there was this symbol on the wall that people would speculate about for weeks and weeks, or the way you had to search for the small little elemental orbs across Mars. I miss those parts of destiny
Solid video Sweat. Been watching you for years and I think your thoughts reflect the community particularly the daily hardcore players who are now taking extended time away from the game to play other games like Call of duty, Elden Ring and other competitors. Keep up the good work bro.
I absolutely love this game called Deep Rock Galatic- the dev team is incredible, it's only just got off the group and hit a running start. It's role playing, massive opportunity for customising your loadout and so much fun. I really enjoying watching other people play it andI think you would too- plus its best played co-op and some of my favourite videos of mine are when you're playing with others.
much love sweaty
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@@maxgarrood3231WE AINT GOIN HOME
They are purposely killing their game. Sony wants Bungo to work on Playstation exclusives. It's so obvious it's not even funny.
Imma just say it: the most fun Ive had with Destiny in the past year was when Sweat did his own quest in game. I just watched it on YT, and it was AMAZING.
I cant agree more. That event was amazing.
Tbh no clue how sweat isn’t bald by still playing without breaks when it’s this bad. I’ll continue to support him and would love to watch him extend his energy and passion for content creation to other games. Same with any job, if you aren’t happy- make a change!
Thanks for providing your history with destiny then providing your opinion. Great perspective, I was there in July 2014 as well and agree with you 💯
New subscriber here along for the ride. You might want to consider some upcoming games like armored core 6, it might be the season of mechs coming up.
my favorite videos of yours have always been ones where you play with Redeem, CB, EvanF, Clyde, etc. i feel like this would be the case regardless of what game you played
I have played Destiny since D1 beta. I've taken a few breaks for the sake of my own mental health and not wanting to let myself get to a point of hating my favorite game. That being said - even when I play Destiny consistently, I enjoy watching people play other games. Even other Destiny content creators. The players take breaks. Streamers should also be able to take breaks. Whether that's just to try another game on or off stream, or a month off to see how you feel afterwards. We are here for you just as much as we are here for Destiny.
The thing is, how about the PVP streamers that do carries or just play because they love to be competitive? People watch them specifically for D2 PVP. If they decided to play something else, a lot of their viewers would disperse. Not everyone has the option to take breaks. Which is why you hear the most complaints from PVP players as well cause they know there's a lot to be fixed and they built their streaming platform off of PVP.
@@NovaSkiesx PVP streamers aren't different from anyone else. Only thing different is the content. And all I can say is if that's truly on someone's mind, they can solve that problem very easily by speaking to their community. But they probably shouldn't put all their eggs in such an unstable basket.
LightFall will be fun for 2 months and we will back to this same exact feeling right now.
2 weeks just like Witch Queen. The rest will just be running the raid on all 3 characters every week
Hey, bud.
If youre interested in what a new players experience is. I am about 4 months into being a guardian. And I have considered cancelling my lightfall preorder.
I have put 1,100 hours into this game since i got it in August. It fastly became my most favorite game, but the lack of care, and attention by bungie drives me insane. It hurts my heart because i hear about the masterpiece this game USED to be. I hold hope that this season, and lightfall rejuvenates the game and brings it to a place where I can make the memories with this game that you all have in past seasons that changed your lives.
I've ultimately decided to give them one final shot with lightfall before calling it quits, because this game scratches an itch that i never knew i had. i just wish there was more content, and it wasnt stale. I dont know how many times i can do the same strikes, the same pvp maps, or the same gambit match i play over and over again.
bungie really needs to get it together. However, you my friend have earned a new subscriber.
Cheers
I would like to see a three-season model with the first season starting three months after the expansion drop.
I'm surprised you didn't take a break early in shadowkeep, now that was the dark age.
And also I just want to say that they should have made a D3 because then they wouldn't have had to worry about flooding the game with too much content and we would keep all the old stuff before beyond light, we could have just gotten a third game and they could've had the witch queen as it's starting poit or something a little different to make it fit and I guarantee destiny would not be in the state that it's in now
It was but I think there was hope there for what’s to come like stasis and story ramifications of the darkness finally here.
Whilst now that hope isn’t there, I think people just want the Destiny story finished or some conclusion coming and subconsciously seeing another dlc take place on a secret area and not the city has made people annoyed and frustrated. It feels like the story isn’t coming to a conclusion anytime soon and is being constantly dragged out. The immersion and investment is slowly seeping away.
Honestly I don't see much on how shadowkeep was the dark ages of the game. Plus if they made a destiny 3 it would make things worse most likely than help anything
The problem is that we have had mid to bad content ever since shadowkeep started. The problems we have currently are still the same problems since shadowkeep but people are now getting tired of it.
Forsaken and year 2 was the last time the game was overall great.
IDK if you want a list, but single player games are a pretty good option, like potentially some halo games, and ps4 exclusives like Spider Man, God of War, and Ghost of Tsushima. All great options imo.
Honestly for me if I see someone who is really passionate about a game I tend to really enjoy watching them. I myself play so much different games and genres that I'd be open to anything.
I feel like everything that has a big sandbox to mess around with would attract a lot of different people. No matter if its technical and informative or just goofing around with mechanics and physics.
Probably Hogwarts Legacy could be a nice game to watch you playtrough while having my own adventures.
I know everyone is fatigued right now, but we get these types of "worried about destiny" at the end of a season. But as soon as the season comes out its. OMG NEW SEASON IS INSANE! GOTTA GET THIS GUN. GOTTA PLAY THIS SUCH AND SUCH AND GET THIS. Just tired of it all. Bungie needs to actually put the money into things the community says. And not what brings in the most money.
yeah but this one has been heavier than usual and I feel like if it keeps up, its going to actually cause long term damage to the playerbase and if that happens Bungie will realize they screwed up way too late.
@@Nitroband don't get me wrong I agree with you 100% I guess it's more of a streamers are just gonna make content however they can and gives a false image of how the game really is. I don't blame them for this. Sweat is actually way better than most streamers in this regard.
This is exactly how i feel, but this is what i think, even for bungie which communicates an insane amount with us, there is no way community could make an impact on a financial desicion of a company
I give you credit for being able to break this down into 28 minutes, because the LIST of issues that cycles around Bungie can be discussed for hours in. I hope this company and Destiny 2 can change for the better.
Its hard i think for all of us to see a game we have all cherished at one point or another. I started playing the destiny franchise when i was 11 and now im 20 and i still love the game but some of the changes and lack of fixes make it really hard to justify playing, for me destiny is so much more than just a game its where i met some of my best friends, where ive had some of my best moments, and where ive grown in skill as a player. So its hard to let it go but you made so many valid points like we all want to see the game succeed but it feels like after witch queen launch which was so promising for the game it all went downhill. In my opinion for the game to succeed it need to get new crucible maps, more strikes and long term item grinds. What i mean by that is like with luna’s howl and not forgotten, could u imagine how much people would stick around if they had weapons u could earn from playing gambit, strikes, and competitive. Destiny needs more stuff to grind for over a season without making overly complicated and difficult (for casuals). If i were to say one thing about new lights is they need help on how to get weapons and do quests, thats why they dont stay so why not invest in a system that gives the player more aide when they first start.
Being here since 2014, over the years. Especially now, it feels like they are trolling. It seems as if they want the game to die. They have had so many opportunities to make the game the greatest it’s been yet. On top of every issue we are having right, this makes it only worse thinking like this. It’s very degrading as the player.
Seems like they have recently been choosing to live in ignorance and not being transparent more and more
@@buen0_ it’s really sad to see one of the biggest games ever, arguably the biggest looter-shooter ever being in such shambles. It’s not like we are even asking for much… it’s just over time these little things we want for the game have created such a list because we never get what we want as a community. Being shunned by the developers of your favorite game is the worst feeling.
They made trials fun and everyone was enjoying it, trials was at an all time high, then they change it for some reason, it's they're fault if the game dies they are the only thing that can kill destiny
@@ReignHao yup, I’ve played since D1 as well and it’s just sad to see how the game has slowly been going to shit as I grow up
I’m in the same boat as sweat, I want to believe light fall and the next season will be better, but my expectations are pretty low. I’m just hoping Bungie can come to their senses and do justice to the game that so many people love
After today's TWAB I think the best is just to abandon hope. Even the devs who are the closest to the community haven't got a single clue.
One thing that makes me sad is that i used to love this game. Way back when, i used to be excited to do raids with the bois and even just do some crucible but now i just log on, go to the tower and then log out. Ive sunk countless hours into this game and it really pains me to see the game in such an awkward state. I get that bungie cant just make the game perfect with a click of their heels, but nowadays it feels like bungo arent even listening to the people that actually play the game
I've really been getting into Risk of Rain 2 recently. Lots of fun, great with friends. Also, if you've never played Portal 1 or 2, I would watch the hell out of your play-throughs of those games. Two of the best games of all time.
Would love sweat to play the portal games, and maybe coop with gladd or clyde or evan would be great
This was a great video and it’s a breath of fresh air to see that not all content creators are blind Destiny shrills. I think honest opinions like the ones expressed in this video come from a place of passion, and only serve to improve the game and the community that surrounds it. Let’s just hope Bungie is listening.
I think the main thing for this season specifically was just where it happens to be in a spot where people r just burnt out with there being a little to no reason to play as for the community event stuff it's just felt like a middle finger to those of us who want to be invested in something
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When you mentioned that people were telling you they had been refunding their pre-orders I realized I wasn't alone at all. This season has given me the opportunity to wean off of my addiction, and after I get what I paid for next season I'm uninstalling the game, hopefully for good. I had the Lightfall Collector's Edition pre-ordered. It's been canceled, and now I can let myself play and love other games. It's been rough.
Agreed, very well said. They cured my addiction and fomo. I was able to sit out of the game since the beginning of October and uninstalled the game since then. Unpreordered my lightfall collectors edition as well. Been enjoying other games and hopefully never make a return to this time wasting machine
I havent even preordered it. First time in a long time. And if the rumors are true thats its a pvp focused season,then pve are basicly screwed
I'm in the same boat. It's been nice playing other games I have to admit. It's a huge relief above all else in a weird way.
Plunder was a massive blunder
I don't play much D2 anymore but I watch your videos just because I find you enjoyable. I'd probably watch anything you played just because it's a new Sweat upload
same man.
It is a sad period of any game when the only and most fun content in the game is created by the community.
I’m not gonna lie, i think once destiny goes under, i’ll be done with gaming. I’ve yet found another game that can capture me like it has for the past 8 years
Honestly Sweat, Destiny 2 brought me to your stream and UA-cam channels and all the goofy stuff you do on both has kept me as a viewer. I know you haven’t uploaded any of them but the play throughs of all the single player games on stream recently have been really good and you still find a way to interact with the viewers that’s hilarious. If you “quit” Destiny I’d stick around for the content YOU make not the game. Much love man and keep your head up.
Ill watch you play anything sweat you're one of the best bud :)
The biggest issue I think Destiny itself has, is they try to fit their seasonal model too well.
As a result, the 3 core activities have been neglected to hell and back, every major seasonal event feels like an afterthought meant to sell cosmetics, and a lot of the charm we had from Forsaken-Era (Primarily involving the secrets on the Dreaming City, the Exotic Quests, etc.) just feels missing. A lot of the special things we saw towards the end of Rise of Iron and Forsaken aren't there anymore, and it's starting to wear the game itself down.
Witch Queen was good, but immediately after that we went back to this same seasonal loop we've been on since 2019. No real secrets to uncover in the throne world, just the main story, a bit of extra content for an exotic, and back to business-as-usual.
When your core content, the content that F2P players can play, feels like it hasn't changed since Forsaken, then there's gonna be no player retention. Strikes have never gotten revitalizing, PVP gets abandoned for long stretches of time, and Gambit has only gotten worse with most revisions. And to top it all off, we've LOST content from the core-modes because of the DCV.
I'm 100% for the opportunity for Bungie to give us a "Season of Health" or something where they do nothing but focus on fixing up the core modes. Giving them better rewards, reworking aspects of them, etc. The game is in desperate need of a fix for those modes, or the game is going to continue to be this cycle of, "Seasonal Activity + Core Modes" with a 1 month break every major expansion.
Hearing your voice and how genuinely sad and concerned you are about this hit me kinda hard. I sympathize with you Sweat and I really hope things do get better in Destiny, but if not, I also hope you find success and enjoyment in whatever else you decide to dedicate yourself to.
next season is do or die for destiny, if next season is bad, then more people will refund lightfall
@@TheRagingSpartan_03 True. I just hope Bungie listens to the community feedback, if only a little. Cross your fingers.
Honestly man i am here for you. You are a good character to watch. Your personality is why i watch your stuff.
Things That Will save Destiny (prepare its gonna be long):
1. Dedicated Servers and Improved Netcode.
2. Clan Wars - PvP / Gambit between clans, leaderboards, best clans events.
3. Proper In game LFG system, player stats viewer & inventory management system...
4. PvP Competitive leaderboard, tournaments.
5. Real Exotic quest lines, More dungeons, raids, secret missions.
6. bring back lost campaigns with Legendary mode and cosmetic / exotic rewards - Use one of them as a proper introduction to the game.
7. Fix Gambit - Remove Invading, add a competitive ranked leaderboard with Increased Difficulty at higher ranks.
8. Proper vehicle related usage & activities - ship battles, sparrow racing, sparrows with guns?!
9. Public chat in PVP & voice chat for comp / cw
10. Ditch the braindead seasonal fake hoard mode activities and kindergarden level story telling to focus on the above.
11. Remove bounties from vendors, put it permanently as a part of the UI somewhere so you don't need to pick it up every time
12. Give the vendors some of their own quest lines, is that's an opportunity to finally add some dialoge options?
13. Remove light levels, its so tiring and depressing to level up each season just to unlock THE SAME activities + Its confusing as hell to new players...
Solution: reset power to 0 for all guardians, 0-50 easy rank up, 50-80 hard rank ups, 80-99 very hard rank ups. Rank ups are tied to activities completions and NOT random pinnacle drops. once per year reset everyone who is over 80 back to 80, - no more light level confusion and weirdness to everyone involved.
Things that ruin PVP : Invis Hunters, Shield Bashing Titans, Shot through barricades, Instant healing, Overshields, Blinding Effects, Movement Slowing Effects, Grenade Launchers, Sidearm, SMGs, Pulse rifles meta, Slow swapping / ADS, Flinch, ridiculous aim assist on Controllers, Bad maps, The fact that only team shooting is a viable option, Melee teleportation, Lack of Competitive Leaderboards & Tournaments, Insanely Bad Team Balancing & Horrid Connections.
Things that will kill Destiny:
1. Lack of Innovation and creativity
2. Neglecting PVP
3. Reducing skill gap by nerfing anything that requires skill while supplying players with broken abilities, weapons, ridiculous aim assist.
3. Changing the meta every month to pretend that the game is alive and fun instead of actual new missions and proper events that respect player time.
4. the 5248th forgettable & boring "go there fight 3 waves, get stalled, throw a ball somewhere, fight some miniboss that you could melt in 2 sec who has an annoying anti damage shield untill you kill some champion somewhere or dunk another ball.
6. 7000 little balance patches & changes to perks every week.
all this time spent growing and learning on UA-cam. Rest easy knowing some of us stick around because we enjoy watching you mate! I can tell you whatever you decide to do going forward, I'll be watching :)
For me personally I’ve played this game for 3 years, done every raid and seals etc. and it was the power level grind that got me to leave. Yes the season was very bad with the activities, but normally I would have at least stayed for gms and stuff but playing crucible or strikes ( the same strike I’ve played 400 times, that’s were I drew the line. I haven’t been playing since the beginning of plunder
Destiny fan here, i also play: Warframe, Bioshock,Cyberpunk, Overwatch, Skyrim, All things nintendo (Zelda, Pokemon, Mario)
Quests that make you re explore old locations and bring you on long fun journeys are what made me hooked. The last time I felt this was pre sunset.
Agreed Sweat, It's a rough spot for everyone playing right now, casual, top notch, or wherever people fall under. There is so much content in the game but none of it matters. The cycle needs to be broken somehow, so its not us playing hard during the start of the season, a little bit halfway through, and then die off at the end just to come back later. Same for expansions, a load of people play at the start, they play the first season, and then start to disappear. I understand they can't make new content every day, but at least try not to use copy paste every season. I swear, its been collect this to dunk it into this so that the thingamajig will do this exc. Every. Season. I love the game, I want it to still be around for a while, and I'm hoping they'll do something about it all.
That's the biggest thing for me, I don't understand how so many resources are being used to copy paste each season and that is somehow draining and overworking the company. As mentioned in the video, they were pushed to meet harsh deadlines under activision, once split it's almost like they cut that work ethic in half. I also love the game and it is scary asf to see it go this far downhill after being on the highest point a couple years ago.
I’ve never agreed with a vid more in my life
things that made me actually enjoy the game
- exotic quests which are actually worth for
- actually good god rolls
- grinding power level to gain access to a specific mission
- secret missions
yep... the game definitely needs more secret missions that you can discover randomly... the mission from the whispern of the worm was insane. The campaign and the story also need to be much longer. Escalation protocol and the menagerie would also be cool again.
i disagree with half that i think the legendaries and exotics coming out these day have the most interesting perk combos to date in the history of the game ie: jolt shot however there is literally no content to use them in. everything is either unbelievably brain dead easy or artificially difficult like gms. balanced content is few and far between
I've been playing for years but this season is the first time i didnt reach the pinnacle cap. Warlock 3.0 identity crisis pretty much killed my immersion to the world of destiny. New pve activities felt like strikes with another coat of paint. My group of friends even agreed to not buy the lightfall dlc if we didnt get hooked next season.
Stop playing the game, delete your chars so you can never go back and get your life back. In did the same a few weeks ago. Just do it. It will free your mind, start doing sports, get your life together and keep working on yourself. Believe me: You won‘t miss D2 for even one minute! The game is toxic, makes you sick, is damaging your brain in so many ways and will break your real life. Don‘t even waste one more minute. I deleted all my 3 chars with 165 days of playtime. All Exo‘s, all god rolls, all crafted guns gone forever. You can do it too!!!
I would say to continue what you do. You’re spontaneous and entertaining and probably the only entertaining D2 content creator on here besides SirD. But, I would definitely recommend some funny party games with your raid squad like Mario Party, Golf with Friends, etc. I feel like taking that break and branching off into things like this would work wonders for you and you’re definitely funny af to pull it off 🙏🏻
I also started at D1 Beta, and played up until this year. Something just happened and I could not bare to spend more than 10 mins in the game at this point. To me that was rather surprising considering I was keeping up playtime numbers on par with some D2 streamers. I can't help but feel the game has had a lot of it's ppl diverted to the next project, and the upper brass are not letting those they left in charge make any substantive changes. It feels like when in D1 they kept sinking QoL stuff to up the time spent in game. That was a rough one.
Here are some recommendations: rainbow 6, overwatch, single player games[spiderman, god of war, the last of us), there is a mobile game called marvel contest of champions its kinda cool sometimes, and a few horror games like five nights at Freddy's(there is alot lol as well as the fan games are kinda cool) ,
Cod zombies b03 b04 b0cw iw zombies , try the division maybe? Also it would be hilarious to see you do asmr 😂. Maybe try rocket league, resident evil games (7 is good), also try omgle 😂
For a game you would enjoy I feel like Warframe would be a big one and there is no lack of content
The dev team is so tentative to the community it's kinda heartwarming in a way
constant updates with no lack of content it's very enjoyable:)
Only problem is warframe honestly is the wait times after grinding. 2 days for a prime warframe for example is pretty bad
I find that there is a lot of stuff to do in warframe but content droughts are much worse since they don’t publish as much.
@@DJET723 unless your playing the game 24/7 it's kinda rare to get to the drought part of warframe tbh
@@DarkChibiWeebie normally I would agree but I’m also the type of person to have all of the primes and every tenet and lich weapon at 60% status. Also railjack maxed. Not so much 24/7 but I have played every part of the game at least a few times.
There is no lack of what? Warframe can be done in under than ~1000 of ingame “time spent” counter if you are good at trading. By “done” I mean getting the 30-ish ranks, having everything you need, max rank syndicates, completion of all quests available etc. Endgame in Warframe is like fashionframe and farming plat. Warframe content-wise is timegated and is focused on “farm this to level this so you can get higher rank”. And new content is dropping with the same frequency as it does in Destiny if not less often. And what do you get? 5 hours tops quest with plotholes, new guns and a frame to grind which you will forget about in like a day after having some fun with them and returning to meta afterwards.
Yeah I get it it’s “FREE AND WHAT DO YOU WANT”, but keeping in mind that monetisation became more aggressive (prime resurrections, market price crashes, “we will not make quest frames prime uh huh no 🧢” etc.), DE getting acquired by some Chinese lads and having financing, that’s not a thing to point at.
As a veteran of both Destiny and Warframe I can objectively say that mid and late-season frustration that Destiny delivers is nowhere near the frustration that Warframe delivers with constant delays, missed opportunities, false promises, expectation exaggeration etc. Not even speaking about the fact that “new content” that is often delivered in updates can be done in under a week of focused grinding, so you get your frustration and content drought days after an update. Almost every season in Destiny however keeps you invested at least for a month if not even more. I, personally, had a lot of things to do this season until ~mid to end of October. And I was grinding really hard.
I get not being able to key hole yourself financially. I for one will continue to watch whatever you put out there sweat. Keep your head up man. You are good at what you do and the passion is their. Keep having fun and remember its a grind. You have got this man.
I played Destiny 2 when it came out, quit on Curse Of Osiris and came back when the Witch Queen came out. I play RPGs often and played the heck out of Destiny 2 till Osiris, but even I found it extremely overwhelm by the amount of things I had to learn and things I had to look up online to catch up with the game. I assume an average gamer who just wanna give the game a try usually wouldn’t do that. They just quit.
Sweat it doesn't matter what game you play. I don't watch you because of the games play. I watch you because you make amazing content.
I'd watch just about anything you end up playing because I enjoy the style of content you put out
Ah, I see it's that time of the annual quarter for Sweat to make a plea to Bungie to get their shit together. I love you Sweat and I loved Destiny for a long long time but it's gone. It's time to just move on.
Worth giving Final Fantasy 14 a try as an option for variety stuff. It’s a slow burner so you can go through at your own pace for free for the first 2 expansions. You can drop in and out anytime you want, and with friends/a helpful community it’s even better. I like watching new peeps run through the story and raid content personally. And if ya don’t end up liking it, it comes at no cost 10, 50, 100 hours in.
Thank you man, more people need to speak up about this. As a HARDCORE player I cannot keep just helping people. I have nothing to do, all I have to do is help others with duality or kings fall. There's nothing else, the game is dying
Lightfall will be nothing but a good campaign and a raid again. No crucible maps like 1-2 strikes a few exotics and that’s it. People say WQ was the greatest expansion ever but it wasn’t. The only good thing about was the campaign and vow.
Getting to the point that you can comfortably do variety is one of the best things you can do for yourself. Your edits and humor is good enough to carry you dude, you'll make it just fine.
For other games I enjoy watching, I watch Hunt: Showdown, friend groups playing party games such as Jack in the Box, I still watch League of Legends stuff from time to time, Elden Ring videos (PvP mostly), along with a variety of RL stuff ranging from mountain bikes to pet grooming lol.
I'd personally love to see you continue your Elden Ring playthrough, Fromsoft make some of the best games on the market and I think you could do some good stuff within their worlds.
I feel like we have this conversation every year or two I really don’t think it’s going to be a bad time, I’m willing to bet my life that Lightfall is going to bring a huge revival to the game, the problem is that we’re in such a content drought that it’s hard to do anything but look at the bad in the state of the game right now
I've never seen this many people quit Destiny before. I've always monitored it. Even some of my die hard friends quit and said it's just too dated. The engine is old, taking away paid content, and that there just isn't a way to recapture that for them.
yeah the game sucks right now. this is the first expansion i won’t be buying. hopefully things get better.
No matter what game you play, or what direction you go I will love your content.
Keep up the good work sweat. We appreciate you ❤️
Never thought I'd see the day when even the big creators are saying they miss Activision and the game was better under their leadership. I knew it wasn't gonna turn out well when it was announced because I knew the value and quality of work Vicarious Visions and to a lesser extent High Noon brought to the game and I knew Bungie couldn't keep up the same quality and amount of content without their help. Also I knew Activision was making them get content out on time and made sure it was up to standards as well, so without anybody overseeing them they could take much longer to do less.
Been watching you for years now, I honestly support the move to other games and I’ll stick around watching either way
I know it’s probably not the best example, However, fallout 76 is doing a good job of retaining there player base through daily missions, and events. I mean fuck destiny fans are so loyal if they just made our guns slightly scuff over time people would try to have the most scratched up “used” weapons. It’s really disappointing to see bungie starting to look at us as just income instead of players. It really feels like they only put out the bare minimum to cash a paycheck.
It really feels like destiny originally tried to cater to the "hardcore" part of its playerbase when there was never going to be a way to meet expectations (not endgame players but specifically people putting in huge numbers of hours) and has left them in the dust in favour of casuals who pay the same price and are happy with a few weeks of content spread out over the year for 100 bucks.
That was fine when was just focused on being a looter shooter as you have infinite replayability in the slot machines that are 5 random rolled perk weapons that you want God rolls of eventually. This even covers content droughts to an extent, as the hardcore people may want a 5/5 god roll badly enough to keep playing, but it also allowed casuals to get the two or three perks they wanted and drop out without sweating for God rolls.
The transition to focusing more on destiny as an MMO has been painful. MMOs are meant to have incredibly grindy aspects to keep players playing, but also ways for those people to be rewarded for sharing the spoils of the time spent with the community through auction houses, gear swapping, and earnable cosmetics.
Destiny has the grind, but less loot incentive than before, and none of the systems in place to make chasing more than one god roll worth while. Imagine selling all your god roll seasonal weapons to other players for crafting materials if you were just looking for red borders, or auctioning your second 5/5 god roll the week season dropped for huge amounts of currency. It means casual players can engage by farming crafting mats or getting random rolls, but certain systems are intended for hardcore grinders. It does not help that currently almost all currencies are worthless with huge disparities between new and old players on stuff like legendary shards which are directly proportional to how much you've played and not what you've played. Mats like ascendent shards that new players would love to buy currently are stuck in the inventories of players who have more than they know what to do with.
I'd also love if we could swap fireteams loot in raids and dungeons. If I get the god roll my clanmate is looking for, why can I not swap him the gun before we even exit the instance. Lock it after that so you can't just have people buy endgame loot, but let people decide what they want on their way in and ask for specific drops as you go. Sure it might create some tension in LFGs, but it works fine in other games where you can just decline trades and move on.
They killed their lore. They killed the secret missions. The killed the vast majority of exotic quests. Half the locations are gone. Half the raids. They sunset gear and then brought back some of them.
This is now a game I play when I'm bored. Just need two months to catch up on two years worth of content.
You know things are going absolutely SHIT when people miss the Activision Bungie. I don't blame them either.
Bungie has to turn up drop rate on exotics from raids, add matchmaking for raids, and make the raids able to be completed without having to study UA-cam videos. There you go, done. Until they do that they will not retain players. It's the same thing over and over and over. Same activities same shortcomings every season.
14:50 something you kind of talked around without specifically saying it was despite complaining about deadlines and having kept the same 4 season 1 expansion per year strategy…. Now they have much less manpower to meet those same deadlines…. Which is likely a big reason there is less content which is and sub-par
lol isn't this like the 1000000th video he made about this since D2 came out??? It's always hard to talk about anything when he talks about anything.
I think if bungie decides to release a whole season based souly on fixing the general health of the game, give them 4 months without needing to work on anything but reinvigorating the core playlists, fixing up the strikes, making better play lists for crucible, completely reworking gambit and remaking a lot of the loot pools by re adding the ability to gain access to long forgotten armour ornaments to help diversify the lot pools as well as adding serval more activities and things for the player base to work towards, maybe separating strikes from the actual world maps to give bungie the ability to edit, change and work on pre-existing strikes.
I grinded Season of the Haunted for the reaper title, and week 1 I really enjoyed it and then as it went on, week by week, same grinding for Bound Presence to try and get a red border, same grinding the repetitive bounties on the Direlect Leviathan, same losing in PVP because someone had a better gun, I just got sick of it and quit, tried to come back in Season of Plunder and after that first mission and seeing the flow was gonna be the same I just quit altogether
just tired of the "New Seasonal Activity!" stand on a plate, kill these guys, run to another room, rinse, repeat. no real objective to make it fun.