Moist Meter | Valorant Beta
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Valorant (2020 F2P Multiplayer FPS Game) developed and published by Riot Games for PC as previewed by Charlie and Jackson.
The Moist Meter is an experimental measurement system that you can use to safely gauge just how moist a video game or movie is going to be before playing it or viewing it. Avoid the dry products and only use the wettest.
Moist Meter Scientists:
Jackson: / zealotonpc
Charlie: / moistcr1tikal
Contact: admin@theofficialfour.com
Crazy anti cheat idea:
A homeless person lives in your house and watches when you play.
Fixing two problems at once here folks.
Well you can bribe him
@@thepowerlies Then let another homeless person watch the other homeless person. Fixing three problems at once.
@@tangrunhua Kinda four problems, two from home-having homeless, one from bribes & last from initial player being too scared to cheat. Also creating some problems, one being that home-having homeless will report you regardless so valorant can remove you from your home, which for greedy home-having homeless will lead to a fight which is a shame; there shouldn't be bum fights but if one emerges... you wanna be there to see it.
@@theeffectoflogic3 can you adopt me
Two birds with one stone
“I would compare it more to Paladins, but only about 15 people play it these days” I feel called out :(
15 player gang
SL4UGHT3R no mans sky had a player boom for a bit recently and then it died
@@BurnDemons- nah bro paladins and nomansky is both alive lol look at internet historians video on it
I play tf out of paladins still. Player base is alright. The worst thing about the player base is how braindead they play.
@@rillafy7966 yes i love this
All 15 Paladin players are in this comment section
ZXNXL i was gonna be one of the Cuz i was so bored in the quarantine
Tf2 is still my favorite but paladins thanks to the decks can be fun tbh
@@Aditya-wg3lp hi
I play it ;)
Paladins fucking sucks 😳
I think they went for low end graphics because the game is free to play, so there are a lot of people playing on low end PCs
Another reason riot said is to better see players. That’s why smokes have a defined radius unlike some other games. By having a simple world you don’t have to worry about any player models being hidden.
Yeah.
That’s awesome if they’re really going for that. It sucks when a game is too demanding and players don’t have the hardware to handle it.
graphic options exist for a reason though
Aznbooy actually thats why the game looks bad. They want as many players in they stated this. Said they want people to play it even if they have 2010 pcs
Only 7 months passed and this feels like nostalgia. Fun fact: Valorant looks like TF2 because they use Half-Lambert. A shading technique first used in TF2.
@@minakitkat i just read that in the wikipedia article.
Both Tf2 and Valorant have good art styles imo
@@minakitkat Oh, I didn't know that, cool
_The first ever "To be continued" Moist Meter, Truly Historic._
I remember seeing you comment on like every video
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear dammit
A moment that will be remembered in history really.
Because its a beta
my fellow tyler1 top commenter 🕵️♂️
im more scared this anticheat gonna bring up my SAT score mid game just to shame me than it having access to my 200gb homework folder
How and why do you have 200gb worth of homework, teachers do be handing out a lot cause of online schooling 🙄
Kayel Madz oof..
The only thing I'm worried about regarding the anticheat is the fact that it messes with other internet/online game stuff. With the driver enabled, discord calls take longer to join, games get higher ping, my computer itself takes longer to boot, and it just seems sus.
My folders name is just "test_sc" under 2 other folders.
Kayel Madz oh no no
I agree with the fact that it feels more like paladins than overwatch
But even more low quality graphics
@@rillafy7966 no, maybe less flashy stuff. But it looks not as bad as paladins. The design is also much greater, atleast i think so.
@@highbread5439 idk it looks like paladins on the lowest setting
paladins is alot of fun even tho nothing is balanced idk how
it feels more like CS then any of those games
This is a really good review. Wasn't hyped about this game too much, but you made me kinda giddy to try it now.
8 months later how do you like the game ? I personally love it
@@joeldoosey4154 I'm too loving it, someone who didn't have a good pc until like 2019 end and have played csgo for first time in 2019 and just was trash at it, valorant is different, you don't need that much experience at FPS games to be really good at it.
@@rajatwaghmare I can’t try it since I don’t want a PC but i think riot handled this game very well. The dead game argument doesn’t work with this game. It perfectly takes from CSGO and attracts the right players. I think it’s a great game.
@@hwburner1524 yea it is
“Valorant has really reignited that fire in my-“
Me: Heart! :)
“-asshole”
Me: :0
Lol
Yup that's charlie 😤
Dude we care
I feel like Charlie really wanted to give this game a good score because it seems that, for the most part, he does think this game could be really good. However, I really do appreciate how he is not keeping his final verdict out of the picture, and for a good reason. Well done, Charlie. This video was extremely well put.
Simp
@@therealdrachi12 the w h a t ?
Review review
👍
And then he never gave his final take...
I'm giving this Chinese Rootkit a 100% on the Moist Meter.
Will let Winnie the Pooh steal my data again.
Wow my comment got removed, thanks UA-cam.
"wIlI lEt wInNiE tHe pOoH sTeAl mY dAtA aGaIn"
**uses zucc services, goøgle services and twitter**
*OK*
You must have a high social credit score
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@@xinfinityedge6450 ok tankie
It doesn’t feel like OW at all. It’s definitely a CSGO alternative with more items (abilities) you can use
The arguement is its CSGO with Overwatch abilities.
@Cherry This isnt true either. Four different characters have abilities that alter the ground in a way that blocks passage (molly), basically everyone except Raid, Sova, and Breach has some kind of ability that physically blocks passage/sight (which is the point of a smoke), and while only two characters have traditional flashes, other characters like Omen have status effects that are akin to being flashed.
So any given utility type is certainly not locked to one character or another if you're thinking about it in terms of the way in which abilities are used practically.
@@TUX3D0S Makes sense, so they're essentially giving the same range to most characters but slightly different? I'm okay with that, nothing wrong with a little pinache.
@@bluelefty7820 The only characters that don't have a noticeable amount of utility either in the form of map/vision control or information-gathering are Jett and Raid. Raid is poorly balanced and will likely be subject to change, but she basically just deals damage with her abilities, and Jett is basically made for the AWP role as she can use he dash to get into position for a pick extremely fast and thrives in post-plant scenarios where she can ult and wrack up multi kills and clutches.
@SO GUYS WE DID IT I mean it looks as gay as Fortnite.
I'ma stick with CSGO
who would have thought that this game would be as popular that it is today
scroll down just a little and you'll roll back 2 years
You have to recognize that Charlie is risking his privacy just to test this game for us. Great video.
Not just privacy you mean his computer?
That's not how the source engine leak works, bud
@@nuts_fattening what are you talking about? Steve is talking about the toolkit anticheat
@@nuts_fattening Think he's talking about the anti-cheat backdoor it puts in your system
@@weepingblade his computer has his privacy
Day 526 of asking Charlie to do a moist meter on LEGO Star Wars the complete saga
holy fuck it actually is
He won't do it
No
He wont do it but I respect the dedication
KeatsQRST keep fighting the good fight, brother
"Riot games has always shown a lot of support in their titles"
*cries in Twisted Treeline*
Andrew Sloop dominion lol
titles not game modes
What's wrong with twisted treelands?
@@kaiserxblue its gone
What other games have riot done aside from LOL? By which I mean prior to a year ago what other games did they have that they were doing a lot of support for their games? And will that change now that they have something like 5 games that are in service/will be in service?
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Where tf2 in there tho? The artstyle looks more like paladins for mobile. Ik charlie made that joke but still
@@MoustacheSpyGAME It's right in the beginning Fortressins 2
@@CrustedPork my question was more like why he put the game into this joke in the first place. But my question was dumb anyways
Honestly I agree with Charlie. I used to play CS so much too until I got burnt out. Now that I tried Valorant it has ignited an inner fire for the game
In your asshole or your heart?
@@user-yd1re9qb1n It went in through his asshole, went through his heart, and came out his mouth.
@@gu3z185 and it went back to his asshole and the fire is stuck in a perpetual loop
Honestly I really like the art style of Valorant maybe just me tho
Its fucking amazing
KayVee no
good not great
@@12omle meh not good
@@exhydraboy2429 It’s a complete opinion, no wrong or right. Stop trying to devalue others opinions.
also the fact that the Anticheat doesn't stop when you close the game or activates on startup is bad.
if you do some research, the anticheat is pretty much completely safe
@@bigredracecar27 Of course it's safe now, but it can serve as a gateway in the future to Kerbal access on your computer
@@Bobik776 interesting, didn't know that was a thing
@@bigredracecar27 yes but, users have reported the anticheat causing issues in other games like World of Warcraft and others.
@@Bobik776 it has kernel access, but it would still need to have been coded to use it in the malicious ways that you and the rest of the youth are suggesting, and tbh if people found this out and are calling it a "rootkit", I doubt they'd get away with giving the anti cheat the functions to access private information through usage of said kernel in your windows NT architecture.
if Charlie punches someone, is it called a cr1tikal hit?
Nah it's called a moist slap
Gets funnier everytime it gets reposted
Delete yourself
4Heed
I gave my wife a Cr1tikal hit
I love how you and Muta constantly shout eachother out. It's like silent mutual respect between gentlemen
I love how the game looks. I really hope they don't change it to something gritty and counter strike-esque.
It's interesting because people seem to either love it or hate it. To me, it's exactly as Charlie described it, where it has the art style of a Tf2 wannabe mobile game. I can't play it because of how unappealing the environments look.
@@dagrooseisloose5749 The game was made to be competitive and give everyone an equal playing field. They made it so "unappealing" so that it can run at high fps on even shitty computers. Most competitive players put games on the lowest possible settings to improve visibility anyways...
@@kba well cs go even cs source and 1.6 maps and design is still appealing and you can still play them with a potato pc. Stop finding bullshit excuses for such things like really. Yes they made the graphics not like AAA games so everyone with a decent pc can play it, doesnt change the fact that it looks like shit and the maps are insanely uninspired boring and ugly to look at. 3 maps still and all of them have bad colouring ugly to look at design and not well balanced either. The only single thing this game did better than cs go is the way you change your crosshair and thats it. Abilites are good aswell but most of them are just smokes and mollys, and thete literally is a fkin reaper in the game. It may be going right now, but this game wont come near the legacy of what has become of cs
@@GoldenBigBob CS Looks like dog shit wtf are you on about?
@@kba CS looks fine. The lighting is purposely unintrusive, and so are the reflections. The textures are high quality and have tesselation. Valorant does not, and along with the more cartoony artstyle and hero system, it just looks like TF2.
I'm still one of those 15 people who play Paladins with my friends "(
Custom games when bored with friends are amazing
@Rafael Lozano-Ramsay lol why are you upset that they changed the most generic hero lol. There is alot more fun champions
It's a great game for sure
@@rillafy7966 victor is for people who want to be playing csgo but they suck at actual FPS games.
Paladins gang, rise up!
@@rillafy7966 He looks like a Karen, but male.
Charlie, You're a man after my own heart. Your take was eloquent, well thought out, and got me hype because I am also a CSGO vet. I got one tier below global elite in matchmaking and want to go hard on this game. I still need to fully form my own opinion but it's looking good so far. I like how you left it open-ended because there is still is a lot to learn. I look forward to catching the streams!
Coming back to the video to see that almost every problem mentioned has been fixed. Split is far better, raze only has one nade, and the game looks great. The anti cheat has also been resolved by riot.
we need an updated review
@@agentak7193 yas
Would love to see an updated version of this. I tried valorant because of this video and I'm still playing it to this day. Great review!
Never really tried this game out because I let a bunch of other's people perception of the game determine my opinion. Always stuck to Counter Strike, never really felt like I needed to give Valorant a try. Tried it out a few days ago with a buddy and I gotta say I am really enjoying it so far, and this is coming from someone who generally really dislikes F2P live service type games. I even like the weapon skins too, something I generally despise. They are pretty pricey but it looks like actual work and effort went into them. I can definitely see why folks wouldn't like Valorant but the people who like call it garbage compared to other FPS games on the market are incredibly weird to me, and can never properly vocalize why they think this game is so bad. They just constantly say it "feels bad" and the map design is "awful" without giving any further reasoning as to why that case may be.
Charlie looks like a gender swap tifa
LMAO
Bruh
But prettier.
And shorter.
...it looks better on him.
Stop.
TIL Paladins is still going quite strong, as of writing this it has a 24hr peak of ~25k players.
Honestly surprised it's still quite alive.
Yes we 15 players are playing that super buggy game cus we still love it
Paladins used to be fun, but now it's just shite. Teamwork is none existent
Claytor Yurnero kinda sounds like the ark player base
@@amazementful Paladins is also frequently played on consoles. It's not as big as Overwatch (that is slowly dying out unless something happens) but it's far from a dead or dying game.
Hypixel Skyblock in NA has more concurrent players than their 24hr peak. I don't think that 25k is that strong. Paladins is still pretty dead.
a year later and this game is so damn polished i feel like im watching some dusty tape from some faraway land's ruin of garbage fps games
I'm so glad riot put a ton of effort in Valo. The game is amazing and surprisingly the community isn't as toxic as I expected. I hope they keep on making this game a fun (frustrating sometimes) experience for it's players
I'll always love CS but valorant gives the concept a little more spice that makes it less boring to grind
yeah its so much more interesting even if you don't follow the lore. the yt content, visuals and voice lines are pretty damn fun too
I don’t know why, but I’ve always struggled to tell colors apart in games like CSGO. The agents in Valorant being brighter colors and the map setup just makes it easier to enjoy for my dumb dumb brain
welll here i am in 2022 and valorant has evolved so much
Yes
Just adding, it will be f2p and you'll be able to buy only cosmetics with money
thats what i love about riot games. No p2w you can get skins by just Playing game
Hmm reminds me of another f2p class based war themed hat simulator...
@@kuch5164 the skins are expensive as hell tho
“Competition is going to be good for counter-strike”
As if valve would do anything other than add skins.
Well said
i don't know if you are trying to be funny or you are just dumb or both? Valve has already made updates which clearly are because of Valorant like nerfing the Krieg which everyone has been begging for since people starting using it and also copying Valorant's mechanic to be able to see other people's crosshairs. It wouldn't surprise me if CS:GO gets ported over to Source 2 in the near future because of Valorant.
@@sirfrancisgaming9438 wasn't CSGO planned to be ported to source 2 since months ago? I do love both Games but for me Valve have to fix a few issues that i've been having with the game before i stopped playing it competitively
@@ouadoudouaret8113 Valve has never really had real reason to port it over to Source 2 that's just a lot of work they don't really need to do. But now that they have competition they have a reason to do so. Personally i have always felt that CS:GO is perfectly balanced and atm Valorant is far from Balanced so i would say Valorant has a lot more things to work on than CS:GO right now.
@@sirfrancisgaming9438 i do agree with you on Game balance of CSGO as my last time playing it, And as for Source 2 porting, i do find it a necessity personally as it enables more tools for creators in making Community Maps and such, i don't know much about DOTA2 but wasn't the Community Gamemodes availlable After Reborn (Source 2 port) was released?
The SAT part got me cracked up man. Nice content!
now he owns a team in valorant LMAO
They released the anticheat change where you can turn it off when you’re not playing the game.
Still. It's a rootkit installed into ur computer. It gives administrator access. It's just crazy if u ask me.
vig.nosebleed bruh have you played Apex, Fortnite, Rainbow Six, Rust, For Honor, or Dead by Daylight? Congrats, you have a rootkit now according to your logic.
@@pajamamaan it's just a modern AC, you rarely will get problems with it
@@ultramemes1858 the difference is that valorants anti cheat starts on startup unlike other AC's.
Funny looking back at this when everyone thought the anti-cheat was intrusive.
The bigger question is when will charlie release the full moist meter for valorant lmao
Man this valorant game seems pretty cool can’t wait for it to come out
1:15
Apex Legends: I pretend i didn‘t hear that
what
hoviku he was making a reference to how apex isnt improving imfao
@@Anzu.02 Thanks
What's ridiculous about Apex is that it had the potential to be almost as popular as it's competition, and literally influenced every Battle Royale to implement the ping system, yet they took too long to do anything with it.
I sure love that a year later they still haven't fix their awful netcode
The art *isn't* stock placeholders though. Here's a breakdown of the art style and why:
Comparing it to 'tf2' was definitely on course, because from what I know one of the original art directors working on tf2 worked on valorant's art direction. This is a good thing.
The main intention was to provide an artstyle where the characters would be clear at all times, prioritizing visibility of characters and abilities. The second priority they had was performance. Riot's a big fan of having their games work on toasters. Regardless of whether or not someone thinks it LOOKS good ISN'T the point, and is furthermore entirely subjective.
In comparison, CSGO has pretty NICE looking art right now, but one of the issues that game has is visibility. With the more realistic lighting, and the desaturated muted palletes, and a lack of difference in the 'value' (greyscale/black and white values/brightness) of the characters from their environments, you run into issues where players are using skins and dark spots on maps to blend in. In CSGO's defense, they've put a priority on fixing these issues in the past year or so, but there's only so much they can do without drastic jarring changes, and this has always been an issue even before the custom skins were added. Valorant so far has had absolutely none of these issues, not even a hint.
Stylization also helps to differentiate which character is which, very quickly. Even with the eventual addition of skins, it shouldn't be a problem. If the game had a say, more realistic style like csgo, even with the skins they added to that game it's definitely harder to tell them apart at a glance. That's because of their realistic muted practical clothing, more realistic faces, etc.
The guns will always be harder to tell apart, but they're no harder to tell apart than the guns in CSGO. If it's not a problem in that game, I don't see it being a problem here.
All of this is objective, and well thought out. Disliking it is fine, but I think a lot of people are going to miss the point if they don't understand the reasons behind why it looks the way it does. I'm sure the artists at riot aren't going to change it either, because they're sticking to their design philosophies, and I love them for that.
Anyway, that aside, I think it looks pretty fucking great but hey that's subjective.
If you disagree, feel free to tell me why, or hey tell me what sort of artstyle you expected.
The weapons in Valorant all have the exact same design, which is jet black with small or any highlights, and (mainly the SMGs and rifles) look very similar in design.
In CSGO, the only weapons I believe look similar are the MP9 and MP7, and even then, those are weaker weapons. The important guns like the AWP, AK, and M4 all have distinct designs and color schemes.
I know that weapon design is pretty low on the list for “what make a game good,” but Charlie’s point is still valid.
@@andrewgallagher7690 I don't know about "what makes a game good" but I do know about "what makes an artstyle good". Charlie's point was he didn't personally like the artstyle, not that the art-style was making the game bad. That's fine, but pretending that's a point and not an opinion is wrong. I'm not attacking him or that opinion. You're free to believe that too. What I am saying though, is on a fundamental level, the art direction and decisions being made in valorant that have led it to look like it does are better decisions for the health of a competitive shooter than the ones CS made.
CS never cared much about that anyway, it's aesthetic comes from the game's history, it's an evolution of the old artstyle it originally had. Back then, that art wasn't made with any kinds of radical thought or purpose like the valorant devs have applied to their game, it was just made that way because they wanted to make it look like that. And years down the line, it's had a few issues. That doesn't mean it's a bad artstyle, I like CSGO's art, but you're missing the point. Because of the way CS looks, they've been struggling with the visual clarity of the game on a minor level for a while now.
Valorant is worried about visual clarity first and foremost, and had the privilage of being able to be designed with that in mind from the get-go.
If you want to really dig into the valorant guns, you should have mentioned how skins will probably be changing the silhouettes and visual styles of them completely, and how that could potentially cause confusion when they're on the ground. But, that's the only time I think it even matters, is when the gun is on the ground, and you want to pick it up. And at that point, you probably know what it is. I don't think weapon model skins will make it any more of a problem than the skins in counter strike are.
When the enemy is shooting at you and you die in .5 seconds if you don't shoot back faster, knowing what gun they have doesn't matter and you can figure out just from the audio/spray of it. Don't try to tell me you're ever paying any attention to what gun the enemy in CS has from a mile away while you corner peek them, you're focused on trying to hit their head.
I do agree that there COULD be more diversity in the specific designs of the guns to make them easier to be told apart, but the way they're stylized and the level of polish put into those designs is good.
The guns didn't sound like the primary issue Charlie had anyway, he was talking about the artstyle as a whole, but I think his opinion's off base on this one. I just want to provide context that could potentially make him, or anyone else reading this who agrees with him, possibly reconsider what they think and see this from another angle. A 'pretty game' isn't always a 'visually clear game', or an 'optimized, accessible game'. Assuming a game is unpolished or unfinished because of it's visual style is 100% missing the mark in this case.
@Kahuna I was only talking about the weapons my guy. I don’t mind the art style, but the weapon designs are way to boring and similar, and are probably like that so people are more inclined to buy skins. I totally agree with how it is designed for clarity, and simplicity, but the gun design is just boring as fuck. When I said “Charlie has a point” I was referring to when he said that every gun looks the same.
0% for me: not enough rootkits on my computer
@Cherry Right? I think people have their tinfoil hats a little to tight here
@@purrleterian Not really. The problem isn't just spying, its the fact that it's a system-level driver that runs 24/7 at boot even if you are not playing the game. This is a huge security concern and is being made by a gaming company.
@@zombieguy then are you aware that pubg, fortnite, apex, r6 are all also kernel-level? people seem to give this a lot of shit ,but are completely fine with those titles doing the same thing?
Honestly you don't need a tinfoil hat to see the problems with a rootkit, because even if riot games is completely honest (Which I hope) and doesn't do anything bad with it, it's literally a backdoor for people who might want to do harm
@@zombieguy if u have read online u will see how the issue is not spying since u dont need ring 0 for that but it is that if it invevitably gets hacked thats a major concern (all of this is in the some ordinary gamer's video (its le very nice))
Well in my time playing the game, I've got one thing to say.
I'm shit
"Valorant has reignited that fire in my asshole" - Charles "The Lord of Moisture" White
I'm glad someone else said it. A big reason why I prefer valorant over counter-strike is, every single person in counter-strike puts the same grenades in the exact same places in the exact same timings every single round, on top of always awping the exact same angles. The strategies actually change in Valorant because of the different champion compositions, so I can make choices that don't feel predetermined.
Pls play the game again and review it again since u said the meter is in progress
Overwatch came out and Valve forgot they made TF2
Tf2 is still better imo
@@Dare88 TF2 was apparently going to die because of OW. Now OW is dying an TF2 is still kicking
@@lorenzogiancristofaro9721 how the turntables
@@lorenzogiancristofaro9721 bro who is playing tf2
@@bloodlust2689 usually more than 30k at any given time. Around 50k at peak times.
"Riot Games has always shown a lot of support for their titles"
Meanwhile the league client hasn't worked properly in like 6 years.
@@cadenchu6096 LEgacy client had some pretty game breaking exploits tho, and it's not capable of running replays and the sweet money making loot boxes
@@mattsgamingcave7888 to be fair tho nobody has to buy anything to actually play the game and they rly do give you many free stuff with hextech
you guys complain about everything, 3 errors in a client that has 30000 things going on
@@mateator25 Mate. It's one of the highest grossing games in the world and of all time. Yeh. I expect the main menu to work.
@@hooliganbubsy7298 but it does work? I've played league for 10 years and had 0 problems with the new client.
I sincerely hope the game developers watch these kind of videos, really good points throughout. Defiantly looks like a game to keep my eye on
Three things I have to say:
1. Kernel access is not what makes Riot's anti-cheat different from many other anti-cheats. A lot of popular anti-cheats are on kernel level (examples such as easy anti cheat (used in apex legends, fortnite or paladins), or battleeye (used in pubg or rainbow six siege)). Any anti-cheat just like any anti-virus greatly benefits from having kernel access, as it makes them way more effective. If they're not on kernel level, then anything on kernel level (for instance a cheat program or a virus) can basically make that anti-cheat/anti-virus their bitch. Not having kernel access makes an anti-cheat or anti-virus very prone to manipulation from a virus or cheat. The difference is that Riot's anti-cheat starts right at system startup, which means you don't even have to play valorant to have this run in the background in some sort of idle-mode. Riot claims it doesn't do anything and tries to use up as little resources as possible while the game is not running, but it definitely is running at all times after you boot your system up. I can still understand that people don't like that, but the argument is a very different one, because kernal access is definitely not what makes their anti-cheat any different from most of the other popular anti-cheat solutions.
2. CS:GO has a random element in the bullet spray as well. For the most part it's a learnable recoil pattern, but there is some randomness applied as well. So no, it's not 100% learnable.
3. I think they could try to give more agents one damaging ability, instead of stacking them all on raze. I wouldn't mind some damaging effects, it's just that at the moment they're very stacked.
Also Paladins is pretty cool, but I think Valorant is way closer to Counter Strike than it is to Paladins or Overwatch. When put directly next to Paladins and Overwatch I'd agree though that it's more Paladins then Overwatch. Overwatch has a lot of characters who don't rely much on aiming at all. In Valorant and Paladins aim will always be very important.
To your second point. Both games have movement innaccuracy and spread. Movement innaccuracy applies when you're moving and spread constantly. Spread is basically an individual inaccuracy value for each weapon, the idea behind it is to balance weaker weapons against better ones. (An smg could be deadly without it at long ranges). My point is that both have these but valorant's horizontal spray control is random and csgo's isn't. However you can get a "feeling" for the spray control. The changes of movement are very distinct, so you can still control it even if you dont do it from memory. I think cs 1.6 was similar.
@@alvohaga Oh well, yeah I'm not arguing it's bad or good or really anything, but it seemed like Charlie was under the assumption that the bullets are always 100% predictable in CS:GO, which they are certainly not. It could easily be a fact that Valorant's guns behave more randomly than CS:GO's, I haven't done any testing in that regard, as honestly for the most part the inaccuracy has a fairly small impact compared to the learnable recoil-pattern for the guns in CS:GO.
@@UberDragon Yep, I agree.
Moreover to your first point, riot did release a blog 2 (ish) months ago stating that it was kernel level and why, as well as stating that "This isn’t giving us any surveillance capability we didn’t already have. If we cared about grandma’s secret recipe for the perfect Christmas casserole, we’d find no issue in obtaining it strictly from user-mode and then selling it to The Food Network. The purpose of this upgrade is to monitor system state for integrity (so we can trust our data) and to make it harder for cheaters to tamper with our games (so you can’t blame aimbots for personal failure).". and from what I've seen, it works.
It would be alright if vangaurd didnt disable all the sensors in my fucking pc and allow me to use my browser without disabling it i cant even ftp with thag shit on vanguard is for kids who have never used a pc for other than coolMath games
2:02 coming from cs 1.6 to cs go, my main complain was that maps were too detailed and I had hard time distinguishing players from map detalis so I like clean artstyle for competitive shooter even if its cartoonish.
Charlie would TEAR into icebox if he played on it now.
I hope it doesn't flop, I love that it might make both csgo and valorant to constantly improve
My only real issue with valorant is that it hasn’t had seven years of polish like csgo, so it naturally feels more sloppy as a beta. I hope it doesn’t become like overwatch where they add in a couple more bullshit classes to try to mix up the meta, but they end up making everything more complicated. I love the sense of precise balance and fairness that csgo gives, and I hope it goes in that direction
Peter Greve i agree completely, but if you've seen riot before, they can make complex metas incredibly interesting, i think they should keep it simple mostly but add a few complex and interesting things every now and then
i hope it will flop
@@ninefyre and by interesting metas you mean keeping half of the playerbase wanting to kill themselves and keep pushing a meta that keeps pushing certain types of playstyles obsulete (the best description i can give for riots metas are a refreshing staleness)
lycent raze is overpowered, Phoenix is underpowered, the maps havent had time to be fine-tuned, and too much of the game relies on abilities. For example, the only reliable counter to viper’s ult being on the spike is to use an orbital strike, the only counter to a fire/poison/ice wall is Jett’s movement, the only way to peek heaven is to use a wall, and so on. In csgo you see far fewer situations where everything has one predictable response, or a situation that can’t be outplayed with good positioning and gunplay.
Thank you for addressing the anti-cheat issue, I know you didn't go into depth about it but I wanted your opinion on it since you were still streaming the game. I'm assuming what everyone's doing right now is just installing the vanguard when they play the game and then uninstalling it afterwards, so I'll try doing that. The game is genuinely fun, and while I was never a hardcore CS player, it did give me some nostalgia coupled with some fun new features to digest, so I agree with the points you made regarding that. This probably won't necessarily matter that much to you but I find it super dope I was able to get a drop from your stream, it was a glorifying experience to be fed the goods by the moisty man himself.
Hey Charlie, while kernel acess involves a lot of trust, there are plenty of games that require kernel access for their anti-cheat. The basic idea is that going to the lowest level of the OS makes it harder for cheaters to get underneath you. Look it up if you want a technical explanation but it's fairly common practise among modern games.
All the fearmongering with the anticheat is so annoying lol.
@@SamuraiHageshi That's why the beta helps them diagnose issues with specific hardware.
Ben Boyd it really is a lot more intrusive then other anti-cheats tho starting on launch and being open even when the game is not and it’s not even more affective than other anti cheats there we’re still hackers in the closed beta very quickly
@@ShroomBois_Inc hard to really objectively judge it's effectiveness vs other games when no companies publish this sort of information. Perhaps it's anecdotal, but I've put probably 80 hours into the game and have never encountered someone hacking
@@ShroomBois_Inc but I think fortnite also has kernel level access
So... anyone here after a year later?
yes
2 years
4 years
"Competition is always great for games because it forces the game to improve"
Charlie does not know Valve, evidently. TF2 has been suffering for years and nothing anyone does can force Valve to move on it. Only they can decide if they want a game to get better.
Valve is also a incredibly small team in comparison to many big companies. They focus most of their resources on X and Y projects at a time and move on to other things. Whether that's CSGO, Dota, Artifact, TF2, Half life etc etc etc etc.
I imagine they've made more than enough money from TF2 and dont' see any reason to dedicate resources towards helping it when they can work on the things that make them money currently and future projects that will make the more money/
Valve does not like the meta right now, which means that they can't push a competitive scene. Also the core mechanics are very flawed, and it is far from a pixel perfect game like CSGO. The code for the game is also a complete mess, most gamemodes are unbalanced and so are most maps. Overall, a super fun experience for a casual player, but not enough potential for valve to care about it
Valve actually cares about csgo tho
@@tiencha8862 It has too. Until Valorant CounterStrike dominated the market of that type of Genre. Siege was something similar but CSGO was still leagues and leagues bigger.
TF2 is mostly whatever
Valorant became so unfun to watch for me that I wasn't even excited by the time I got the key (just a few days ago). However after playing it, I got my hype back for the game and where it can be headed in the future.
My main concern is map design. CS:GO has map creation so ingrained in its culture, they have map competitions, iconic maps that have gone across decades, and public tools that anyone can make a map with.
Thousands of csgo maps created by the community, dozens that have been tested on official Valve servers, and only a small handful that were able to make the cut and stay in the game permanently.
How else will Valorant ever be able to replicate these gems?
Charlie has said "Team Fortress 2" twice in the past year. I call that a win
Anti cheats don't stop hackers, they detect it. A lot of anti cheats have "ring 0" access or however you wanna call it. Those are fancy words the media use to bring attention but please read about stuff if you want to have a valid opinion.
When he talked about how the anti-cheat is gonna pull up your SAT scores to embarrass you in front of all the players, I lost it 😂
It's really fun when every person on the other team is a CS:GO veteran who has 1000+ hours
2:01 First time I've ever heard Charlie mention TF2
It was beautiful
You know valorant is something really special when the moistmeter has more than one part.
i like how charlie didnt wanna flex too hard and only put in some his more simple and casual kill clips
Was looking at 'top 5 Chinese rootkits' to see which is best for me, then I saw your video, Charlie, thanks for the recommendation!
"It's CSGO with mobile skin" ~ Slick Daddy
Wheres the update charlie, where is it
The art style was a great point to bring up
i love that charlie talked about the anti cheat i havnt seen any other review talk about the anti cheat
SerbuVEVO As do most modern anticheats.
The sad part about cs is that there's the competitive component yet they don't really listen to the community.
How do they not listen?
same with tf2 valve sucks ass when it comes to evolving and improving their games
@@enestayyare192 TF2 is even worse, it gives me chills just to think about the current game state.
I wouldn´t say that in recent years, they actually been listening. But you probably don´t play cs in along time so I see what u saying.
CS is still leagues ahead of Valorant. I bet my left testicle Valorant won't do shit to CS and will die far before CS does. But how exactly do they not listen to their community? I am not saying they do or don't but if you are going to say something retarded like "The HACKERS are EVERYWHERE" then don't.
Valorant = shady
I'm gonna go with Muta on this one.
Yeah it's owned by tencent, all of riots games are shady
True, its fucking shady
Where can I get my key
Also the anti cheat runs 24/7 on your computer. That's a deal breaker for me. Unless that changes I'm not playing valorant
I like the Art style, everything is very distinct
I'm by no means a proponent of kernel-access anti-cheats, but here's a list of games you've probably played that also have kernel access anti-cheat systems:
- Apex Legends (EAC)
- Fortnite (EAC)
- Paladins (EAC)
- PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds (BE)
- Rainbow Six: Siege (BE)
- Planetside 2 (BE)
- H1Z1 (BE)
- Day-Z (BE)
- Ark Survival Evolved (BE)
- Dead by Daylight (EAC)
- For Honor (EAC)
yall noticed RIOT is a chinese company and valorant anti cheat has full access to your pc? makes you think *100 emoji*
Riot is an american company dumbass, in West Los Angeles, California.
And all anticheats except VAC have full access to your computer.
Mayman Wait till he finds out that RIOT is owned by Tencent
Yeah but you can also very easily check that it's not sending any info to anyone.
@@bomberharris9322 was just bout to comment that
@@bomberharris9322 Again,Riot works under american jurisdiction,The US government has not been shy of banning potential Chinese spyware (They banned Huawei even though there was no evidence to proove their point)
You can tell this game was made by a Chinese company because the guns and many maps are straight ripped from counterstrike. Also the totally "accidental" security flaws from said Chinese company
Riot is an american company,the maps are made from the CSGO map maker who made Dust 2,there are no "accidental" security flaws.
@MinZu riot games is owned by Tencent a Chinese company created by an "ex intelligence" officer
Ah yes... I too get moist playing Rootkit: The Game.
LMAOOO
hey Charlie, about the rng sprays, yes, it is rng. However, if you pay attention to the barrel of your gun, it moves where the bullets go, so you can see where the spray is going. Very hard to actually apply that knowledge, but with enough practice it's possible to get pretty accurate.
I'm hoping we'll see some videos from you about X-Com Chimera Squad in the next few days. Your adventures with Blast Hamcleaver were some particular favorites of mine.
As an intellectual Redditor, I take major issue with the anticheat system on this game. I'm only okay with organizations like Google, Facebook, and the NSA stealing my information.
When you're so early the people who say first are still in the top
now stop me if i am wrong, but are we setting up a moist meter universe with the first ever no score moist meter? cant wait for part 2
I agree with the spray pattern thing, but it isn't often you're shooting more than 5 times to get a kill
"I would compare it more to Paladins, but only about 15 people play it these days”
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0:50 **cries in 2000h in Paladins**
3k here baby and still going, 3 minute ranked queues in diamond how the fuck is this game considered dead by anyone bruh
@@ThePikeOfDestiny lol the fucking ranked matchmaking is fucked, that's not a good point to bring up. ESPECIALLY when it matches up lower ranked players and fucking top tier
Most of the stuff went to shit after OB64
@@tibortomecek4560 I played even during OB64 but now I rarely even play Paladins at all. Around the time they removed play of the game and kill cam the servers became unbearable to play in. Like before I crashed once every 4 or 5 games in ranked (wich was meh since I at least reached master) but nowadays it's literally every game. What annoys me the most is the reason they gave for removing pog and kill cam "It didn't work properly and it had a lot of games" like the game isn't pretty much 70% bugs, 20% skins and 10% content
10 months later this game is amazing
Love your take on this, keep up the great work
100% agree on your final point, watching is pretty boring unless watching a top tier player but playing it is a ton of fun
Vanguard Anti-Cheat should be enough to not install it
OG CHAINSAW how come?
@@polygondeath2361 Some people watched this video about this guy calling Valorant a root kit and now people who have no background in internet security is losing their shit over it. The only concern people in security have is the fact that it runs 24/7, not that it's on kernel level.
@@akmuu7836 Adding to this - most other serious anticheat systems have kernel access, like battleye and easyanticheat. Hell if someone wanted to enter your pc they wouldnt even need for it to run 24/7, just wait til you launch a game
Upah yeah muta’s video? He was fear mongering like shit.
StenXa ive brought this idea up in another comment section. I agree
"It's a weird blend of team fortress 2 and a mobile game" exactly
Now he has a goat team
Wow the nostalgia is real, I love this game but wow was waiting for a twitch drop annoying.
“Valorant has reignited that fire in my asshole!” - Charlie
Hope that quote makes it on the back of the box.
Has overly zealous anti cheat system..."ran into 2 hackers".
Must be worth it punishing everyone else for a cheat system that can be circumvented anyway.
It is impossible to prevent cheats from being made, an anti-cheat's primary purpose is to detect and ban hackers as fast as possible in order to dissuade less hardcore cheaters from cheating. Cheats are actually really easy to make, it's a lucrative business because good, undetectable cheats are hard to develop and are in high demand by losers with a disposable income who are shit at the game.
Upah Thanks for regurgitating the definition of an anti cheat system that's all over this games twitter of people depending it. We know...but I've never known a hacker that doesn't expect to get banned eventually.
Getting banned is a bit more of a bummer for cheaters right now since they can't just make another account yet, needing beta keys and all.
But after its out, I don't think its worth having a rootkit on your machine. All it would take is one bad update to start breaking Windows in some way, having kernel access and all of your OS. Not to mention the privacy concerns. We already get enough of that crap from Microsoft.
@@slimjim6167 lol