Note on Shixeen: you do NOT need anywhere near 120 cards to get her to appear at base. I had under 100. You just need to have unlocked the tier of cards that need mystic lumber to buy and have bought cards more than 50 times. At that point I had not done a single card battle against anyone except Glen to recruit him
Technically not a mini game, but there are 40 hidden scenes if you visit the bath with certain characters in your party. You get to learn stuff about some characters you would never know otherwise.
Okay. I specifically disagree on fish v Beigoma. Fishing is still more enjoyable than Beigoma any day of the week! I also disagree on card battles, but it's likely because if it became a real world card game I'd likely get myself all the cards in my current deck! (Which does include the 4 7's acquired through battling specific amounts of opponents.) Oh, and you actually don't need to have fully recruited someone, just controlled them at some point. An example of this is the Norristar guy who you don't technically recruit but is controllable for a small section. Same can be said for someone like Leene who is controllable before she is officially recruited and thus you can play her at cards PRIOR to her joining.
The card minigame is good once you've recruited Glen and started buying new cards to build up your deck. The games to recruit Glen though was a bit of a frustrating slog; it seemed like he was getting all the cards he needed perfectly while I was always getting screwed on the draws. It took me a number of tries because he'd always be getting high-tier 3 of a kinds, straights, flushes, or straight flushes on the high-value field. Even when I did decent with what I drew, it never seemed quite enough to match.
@@HellFireRPGs Though it really does get better once you can buy a few packs and upgrade some of the lower-tier cards so that they can sometimes punch above their weight under certain conditions. It then gives the game a little bit more strategy and less reliant on pure RNG.
I agree with your list. I played the bugged cooking game, so I cannot say how good it actually is. Fishing is too basic and the fact the music is off while doing it is insane. Beigoma is too time consuming and difficult, but a nice idea. Not a fan of the race because the last one is sooo difficult to me. Egg races are interesting. In the end it needed more breeding strategy than expected. I really like the card game. Only the achievement is kind of annoying. The game itself is a lot of fun. The theater is awesome. A lot of fun to try different actors.
1-Theater: Good Rewards , lots of depth with different actor combos, only downside is locating scripts 2-Cooking: Good rewards (strong recipe combat effects), character reward. Downside is the bugs on scoring and lack of unique animations (comparing it with how many unique animations Suikoden 2's version had for the different challengers) 3-Eggfoot Racing: Good Rewards ( the 5 items from the final races) Downside too grindy. Unintended Consequence: Paquia confessing to me before the final battle. 4-Card Game: Well built but easy to steamroll and lackluster rewards plus waaay to grindy to 100% 5-Beigoma: Opening deck is useless, obtuse introduction, rewards 2 characters but rewards still feel lackluster, especially if you collect every Beigoma and beat every opponent. 6-Fishing: Barebones system that only rewards a single material. Feels like a downgrade from Suikoden 2 where it was directly integrated into what recipes you could cook. 7-Shi'arc Racing: too few courses and the analog stick being broken and randomly reversing your inputs is frustrating to the extreme
I was astounded at how much voice work there was in the theatre mini-game. It seems like it must have been a significant percentage of the VA budget for the game, just for me to be able to embarrass my heroes by horribly miscasting them in every play.
@@HellFireRPGs Yes I did and I still hated it. Stupid thing gave my poor wrist and thumb cramps. I got it done, don't get me wrong, but it was the most I have cursed at this game thus far. With Beigoma, all you have to do is basically watch your opponents boost bar and hit yours as soon as it fills to get the clash. Dueling later opponents was super easy to time as long as I ignored the actual tops battling on screen and just watched the opponents boost bar. I mean, I beat the beigoma sage on my first attempt, so I definitely prefer that to that racing with wonky controls.
Note on Shixeen: you do NOT need anywhere near 120 cards to get her to appear at base. I had under 100. You just need to have unlocked the tier of cards that need mystic lumber to buy and have bought cards more than 50 times. At that point I had not done a single card battle against anyone except Glen to recruit him
Pretty interesting set of mini-games, really like the Beyblade one, so cool 🤣
Technically not a mini game, but there are 40 hidden scenes if you visit the bath with certain characters in your party. You get to learn stuff about some characters you would never know otherwise.
Okay. I specifically disagree on fish v Beigoma. Fishing is still more enjoyable than Beigoma any day of the week!
I also disagree on card battles, but it's likely because if it became a real world card game I'd likely get myself all the cards in my current deck! (Which does include the 4 7's acquired through battling specific amounts of opponents.) Oh, and you actually don't need to have fully recruited someone, just controlled them at some point. An example of this is the Norristar guy who you don't technically recruit but is controllable for a small section. Same can be said for someone like Leene who is controllable before she is officially recruited and thus you can play her at cards PRIOR to her joining.
The card minigame is good once you've recruited Glen and started buying new cards to build up your deck.
The games to recruit Glen though was a bit of a frustrating slog; it seemed like he was getting all the cards he needed perfectly while I was always getting screwed on the draws. It took me a number of tries because he'd always be getting high-tier 3 of a kinds, straights, flushes, or straight flushes on the high-value field. Even when I did decent with what I drew, it never seemed quite enough to match.
Yeah, took me a few tries too. Didn't help that I didn't know how to play properly at the time either.
@@HellFireRPGs Though it really does get better once you can buy a few packs and upgrade some of the lower-tier cards so that they can sometimes punch above their weight under certain conditions. It then gives the game a little bit more strategy and less reliant on pure RNG.
I agree with your list.
I played the bugged cooking game, so I cannot say how good it actually is.
Fishing is too basic and the fact the music is off while doing it is insane.
Beigoma is too time consuming and difficult, but a nice idea.
Not a fan of the race because the last one is sooo difficult to me.
Egg races are interesting. In the end it needed more breeding strategy than expected.
I really like the card game. Only the achievement is kind of annoying. The game itself is a lot of fun.
The theater is awesome. A lot of fun to try different actors.
1-Theater: Good Rewards , lots of depth with different actor combos, only downside is locating scripts
2-Cooking: Good rewards (strong recipe combat effects), character reward. Downside is the bugs on scoring and lack of unique animations (comparing it with how many unique animations Suikoden 2's version had for the different challengers)
3-Eggfoot Racing: Good Rewards ( the 5 items from the final races) Downside too grindy. Unintended Consequence: Paquia confessing to me before the final battle.
4-Card Game: Well built but easy to steamroll and lackluster rewards plus waaay to grindy to 100%
5-Beigoma: Opening deck is useless, obtuse introduction, rewards 2 characters but rewards still feel lackluster, especially if you collect every Beigoma and beat every opponent.
6-Fishing: Barebones system that only rewards a single material. Feels like a downgrade from Suikoden 2 where it was directly integrated into what recipes you could cook.
7-Shi'arc Racing: too few courses and the analog stick being broken and randomly reversing your inputs is frustrating to the extreme
Hi, just a question, I keep seeing this game suikoden mentioned, in ur opinion, should I play that game? I really enjoy euiden.
Absolutely. This game is based on the suikoden games. Definitely play them when they HD versions come out.
@@HellFireRPGs ok ty I will play Suikoden after I finish eiyuden.
I was astounded at how much voice work there was in the theatre mini-game. It seems like it must have been a significant percentage of the VA budget for the game, just for me to be able to embarrass my heroes by horribly miscasting them in every play.
Dont you count mock battle as a mini game?
lol I love Beigoma but I friggen hated the Shir'arc racing
Did you use the Dpad?
@@HellFireRPGs Yes I did and I still hated it. Stupid thing gave my poor wrist and thumb cramps. I got it done, don't get me wrong, but it was the most I have cursed at this game thus far. With Beigoma, all you have to do is basically watch your opponents boost bar and hit yours as soon as it fills to get the clash. Dueling later opponents was super easy to time as long as I ignored the actual tops battling on screen and just watched the opponents boost bar. I mean, I beat the beigoma sage on my first attempt, so I definitely prefer that to that racing with wonky controls.
I hate fishing games inside of games and enjoy how simple it was .
I feel fishing is over done and almost a auto include these days
Beigoma story is too much all i want to do is get my heroes and not play it again.