Holy shit, I finally figured how to do rockets one Firstly, you have to rocket -> melee -> swap almost in a gapless sequence, you must do this almost at once, as if you are banging your fingers on the table 1-2-3, then pause, then 1-2-3 again. Watch the video in slow playback speed and try to recreate the sequence Secondly, you have to wait just a little on your second rocket so that you don't do this fast two rockets combo Thirdly, you can also start this combo by holding LMB, if you feel comfortable I watched the rockets clip in 0.25x which helped me, maybe you should too. This is still working, but damn hard to pull off
man just thank you for posting this you can even do this on console takes a bit off practise but its the same as pc frame rate doesnt effect anything here which is amazing and here ithought i mastered the game
I finally got the rocket one to work, but man is the timing tricky. You can't be too quick, or you'll lose it, you gotta wait a little bit on that second rocket. You could fire two really quick rockets if you want, but for the continuous onslaught you really need to find the perfect rhythm. I couldn't even begin to get the ULTRAKILL combo to work though, anyone got any tips? I think I'm matching his inputs, but it just halts after one sticky.
I was able to recreate the double rocket at 2:44 with the ballista, but the window must be really tight coming from someone who does this tech casually and consistently. But I can definitely see it getting consistent with practice and I think it would be very useful.
Thanks for this. I have 160 hours on DE and I'll be learning just this tech + ballista boost + bhops until I reach 180 hours. Hopefully with this, I'll be able to beat UN!
Honestly pb swaps are more than enough for literally anything in the game, punch swaps only shine in those (generally awful) cbt mods with 10000 enemies per arena. Since they group together you can get a lot of value from AOE damage. But I would say that ballista boosting/bhops are pretty much mandatory to play this game well so definitely try to practise them. And destroyer blade of course
I can't wait to see some marauder strategies. Btw, I want to change my binds, current I have default movement and shooting keys, 1 shotgun, 2 heavy cannon, 3 plasma rifle, q rocket launcher, e super shotgun, z ballista, x chain gun, 4 bfg, c crucible, r for flame belch, mouse four melee, mouse five grenade, middle mouse chainsaw, f switch mod, g switch grenade. How would you change my binds? I got used to my binds for precision bolt and sticky combos, I really only need help with ballista. I won't change my melee and movement keys, I like having grenade be accessible and chainsaw close by but hard to mis input. How would you change my binds so that I can better use the ballista?
Put ballista on f mod swap on z, you're gonna be swapping to your ballista more than you're gonna be swapping mods (hopefully lol) so you dont need your mod swapping on a very accessible key and your ballista on a not so accessible one. My controlls are very different from yours but a general rule of thumb is to not put your weapons on a key thats hard for you to access :) Maybe even try using the cntrl key for something? I cant stand cntrl key but ik some other ppl use it.
Well like you said to each their own, & am in now way a crazy weapon swapper but my current layout is: 1 combat shotgun, 3 plasma rifle, Q heavy cannon, E rocket launcher, R super shotgun, CAPS ballista, mouse 5 chain gun, mouse 4 melee, T for BFG, middle mouse button for flame belch, f & g & c with their default functions. I've gotten the hang of the PB RL swap with this & I can quick swap to ballista as well, I do have troubles though in trying to pull off the PB sticky bomb combo but I haven't really tried to practice it. Anyways hope this helps, you can also try binding TAB for a weapon as well.
Have they nerfed the rocket swap speed? I can get the other swaps as fast as you do them but the rocket swap I can do, but slower than in this video. Is this patched out or is there something particular you have to do for the rocket swap?
@@sylar1313 I tried it with PB and if I hold left click and just melee, I can get off 2 super fast shots with the rocket before it stops working. What needs to happen differently to be able to fire off as many shots as you want?
I know it has something to do with letting go of left click in between shots. It's a timing thing. I'm wondering if you can put into words exactly what it is.
Yup, I experimented and you have to go a tad slower than what it would be if you just held left click. By doing so you can approximate the maximal fire rate and still be able to keep going until you lose your tempo.
A useful heuristic I discovered is that the soonest you're able to shoot again without breaking tempo is when the crosshair appears again. Same deal with sticky bombs.
the mod probably doesn't work anymore, instead you should simply use the notarget console command to freeze enemies + chrispy to spawn demons, for example chrispy ai/superheavy/tyrant. Now you do need the mod injector installed and the Meatho00k file, which may or may not be already included in the injector I don't remember. All of these stuff you can find on the DOOM 2016+ modding discord server
I also find that for the pb swap all you have to do is tap melee and your heavy cannon key once. For ballista rocket and ssg it's sufficient to tap melee once then do the weapon key twice. Works very consistently exactly that way, so you don't have to spam. Is there a reason you use the ultrakill tech a lot in your gameplay? IMO it doesn't seem too useful since 1) stickies aren't too useful except for killing cacos 2) the reload boost compared to base stickies is too marginal to warrant using this.
Well 1) stickies are extremely useful in any situation for a plethora of reasons, especially in mods where the demons density is higher than base game. 2) If you don't use the tech you can't transition out of it into rockets or whatever else
The only difference between punch rockets and punch stickies is when you do punch stickies you must keep RMB pressed the whole time, whereas with punch rockets you must let go of RMB as soon as you switch to rockets. The rest is the same for both: you must let go between shots and click again only when the crosshair appears again. In both cases, you are required to melee immediately upon firing. The timing is very tight.
@@strix4836 For SB you have to shoot PB first then swap to SB and shoot and melee after each shot, it requires a bit of timing to get down, but SB will NOT pork with punch tech unless you shoot the PB first and swap to SB. (PB= Precision Bolt, SB= Sticky bomb for those who may be confused)
Probably doesn't work like that anymore. I've been trying this for an hour already with no progress. Only 2 fast rockets work. I would recommend to not waste time trying this combo, because it might have been fixed. PB + Rockets are pretty the same rate and are easier to learn
Ye pretty much how i feel about it, this tech isnt really fun imo so i wont use it. But ik some ppl will have a field day with it (speedrunners especially) so eh im not gonna cry about it lol
I like how even youtube sees this as ultrakill
"Sylar's skillful combo"
*obama giving medal to himself meme*
Launch version speedrunners who could rapid fire Pbolts: "look at what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power"
Epic now punch your shotgun shells to turn them into sticky bombs 😤😤😤
oxy 😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰
@@juicestin_ 😆
Remember, swapping to your sidearm is always faster than re... WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL
Swapping to your fist is faster than reloading.
Unless you have to reload your fist.
How incredibly cursed
What a genius tech
The longer Doom Eternal players stay on Doom Eternal, the more powerful they become.
When you swap the same weapon lmao
As someone who regularly plays ultrakill this is hilarious
Ikr
Thank you a lot Sylar, your techs has been really useful to me, they have made me a better player
Mankind is dead
Hell is full
DOOM IS ETERNAL
I swear, someday he will punch ssg shells to turn them into sticky bombs
You can also do this in Battlemode which completely breaks it. Might get patched because of that.
+ PROJECTILE BOOST
+ QUICKDRAW
Gatta say, having such a powerful tech tied to Doom guy’s regular punch is kinda poetic.
Gj sylar as always!
The tech is very strong, but i just know if i implemented it into my gameplay it would ruin doom eternal for me tbh
Use it on insanely difficult master levels made by modders, trust.
@@crackededge9351 even then I’m not using it lol, since the master levels aren’t designed around this bug
@@Crit7k They’re designed around killing you with a billion claustrophobic enemy spawns, it’s broken anyway. Give into the smooth brain 🧠 Join us
@@crackededge9351 NEVER!
@@crackededge9351 so you admit that custom master levels are terrible?
+QUICKDRAW
+ARSENAL
meme eternal was more broken than i thought ;)
Why are all your comments like this 😂 Did the game kick your dog or something
raising the skill ceiling of the game = bad i guess? :/
You seem to love doom hunter base ambient
Dude be hammer-fanning a rocket launch ffs
I can't even keep up with all the new tech being discovered lol
good work!
Holy shit, I finally figured how to do rockets one
Firstly, you have to rocket -> melee -> swap almost in a gapless sequence, you must do this almost at once, as if you are banging your fingers on the table 1-2-3, then pause, then 1-2-3 again. Watch the video in slow playback speed and try to recreate the sequence
Secondly, you have to wait just a little on your second rocket so that you don't do this fast two rockets combo
Thirdly, you can also start this combo by holding LMB, if you feel comfortable
I watched the rockets clip in 0.25x which helped me, maybe you should too. This is still working, but damn hard to pull off
man just thank you for posting this you can even do this on console takes a bit off practise but its the same as pc frame rate doesnt effect anything here which is amazing and here ithought i mastered the game
I finally got the rocket one to work, but man is the timing tricky.
You can't be too quick, or you'll lose it, you gotta wait a little bit on that second rocket.
You could fire two really quick rockets if you want, but for the continuous onslaught you really need to find the perfect rhythm.
I couldn't even begin to get the ULTRAKILL combo to work though, anyone got any tips? I think I'm matching his inputs, but it just halts after one sticky.
man this one is the hardest, i just cant shoot infinite rockets, just two.
HOW HAS NOBODY DONE THIS YET
I was able to recreate the double rocket at 2:44 with the ballista, but the window must be really tight coming from someone who does this tech casually and consistently. But I can definitely see it getting consistent with practice and I think it would be very useful.
Thanks for this. I have 160 hours on DE and I'll be learning just this tech + ballista boost + bhops until I reach 180 hours. Hopefully with this, I'll be able to beat UN!
Honestly pb swaps are more than enough for literally anything in the game, punch swaps only shine in those (generally awful) cbt mods with 10000 enemies per arena. Since they group together you can get a lot of value from AOE damage. But I would say that ballista boosting/bhops are pretty much mandatory to play this game well so definitely try to practise them. And destroyer blade of course
@@sylar1313 Thanks for the tip! Hoping to join the gold slayer community soon!
3:07 is slower for me. Am I bad? Is it hardware depandant?
I love this tech so much, its so much fun to use
So *this* is the power of ultra instinct
😎
I can't wait to see some marauder strategies. Btw, I want to change my binds, current I have default movement and shooting keys, 1 shotgun, 2 heavy cannon, 3 plasma rifle, q rocket launcher, e super shotgun, z ballista, x chain gun, 4 bfg, c crucible, r for flame belch, mouse four melee, mouse five grenade, middle mouse chainsaw, f switch mod, g switch grenade. How would you change my binds? I got used to my binds for precision bolt and sticky combos, I really only need help with ballista. I won't change my melee and movement keys, I like having grenade be accessible and chainsaw close by but hard to mis input. How would you change my binds so that I can better use the ballista?
Put ballista on f mod swap on z, you're gonna be swapping to your ballista more than you're gonna be swapping mods (hopefully lol) so you dont need your mod swapping on a very accessible key and your ballista on a not so accessible one. My controlls are very different from yours but a general rule of thumb is to not put your weapons on a key thats hard for you to access :) Maybe even try using the cntrl key for something? I cant stand cntrl key but ik some other ppl use it.
@@Crit7k thanks that's actually a super smart idea
@@the_womp_and_only9062 thank you :) have fun dude!
Well like you said to each their own, & am in now way a crazy weapon swapper but my current layout is: 1 combat shotgun, 3 plasma rifle, Q heavy cannon, E rocket launcher, R super shotgun, CAPS ballista, mouse 5 chain gun, mouse 4 melee, T for BFG, middle mouse button for flame belch, f & g & c with their default functions.
I've gotten the hang of the PB RL swap with this & I can quick swap to ballista as well, I do have troubles though in trying to pull off the PB sticky bomb combo but I haven't really tried to practice it. Anyways hope this helps, you can also try binding TAB for a weapon as well.
If anyone wants to hear what keybinds I use I’ll type them out just lmk :) I can easily every combo with my keybinds
You probably mentioned it in the video but how do you use punch swap for stickies and PB? Since they require the mod unlike ssg, ballista and rockets
I don't think I mention it, but I just keep alt fire button (mouse2) pressed during all of that
@@sylar1313 I figured it out, I just couldn't use Sticky Bomb punchswaps without using PB first. Thanks for helping
Do you expect this to get patched?
Certainly it will be if this works in Battlemode.
Cant do it on controller, big RIP.
idk if its just me but its hard to pull off.
Have they nerfed the rocket swap speed? I can get the other swaps as fast as you do them but the rocket swap I can do, but slower than in this video. Is this patched out or is there something particular you have to do for the rocket swap?
Rockets need precision bolt (or similar) first, you can't get the same speed if you start from the rocket launcher itself
@@sylar1313 I tried it with PB and if I hold left click and just melee, I can get off 2 super fast shots with the rocket before it stops working. What needs to happen differently to be able to fire off as many shots as you want?
I know it has something to do with letting go of left click in between shots. It's a timing thing. I'm wondering if you can put into words exactly what it is.
Yup, I experimented and you have to go a tad slower than what it would be if you just held left click. By doing so you can approximate the maximal fire rate and still be able to keep going until you lose your tempo.
A useful heuristic I discovered is that the soonest you're able to shoot again without breaking tempo is when the crosshair appears again. Same deal with sticky bombs.
may i please know what mod it is you are using that allows you to fight selected enemies with no AI?
the mod probably doesn't work anymore, instead you should simply use the notarget console command to freeze enemies + chrispy to spawn demons, for example chrispy ai/superheavy/tyrant. Now you do need the mod injector installed and the Meatho00k file, which may or may not be already included in the injector I don't remember. All of these stuff you can find on the DOOM 2016+ modding discord server
I also find that for the pb swap all you have to do is tap melee and your heavy cannon key once. For ballista rocket and ssg it's sufficient to tap melee once then do the weapon key twice. Works very consistently exactly that way, so you don't have to spam.
Is there a reason you use the ultrakill tech a lot in your gameplay? IMO it doesn't seem too useful since 1) stickies aren't too useful except for killing cacos 2) the reload boost compared to base stickies is too marginal to warrant using this.
Well 1) stickies are extremely useful in any situation for a plethora of reasons, especially in mods where the demons density is higher than base game. 2) If you don't use the tech you can't transition out of it into rockets or whatever else
The only difference between punch rockets and punch stickies is when you do punch stickies you must keep RMB pressed the whole time, whereas with punch rockets you must let go of RMB as soon as you switch to rockets. The rest is the same for both: you must let go between shots and click again only when the crosshair appears again. In both cases, you are required to melee immediately upon firing. The timing is very tight.
I legit thought this was an Ultrakill tutorial not a doom eternal one LMAO
How do you bind punch to mwheelup
Does this archive more or less damage than quick switching?
Looks like all the weapons with this tech has a ttk that's as high or higher than actual weapon combos.
Well done! You've broken the game :)
its all skill
This is insane!
It's possibl in xbox or ps?
This is it
This is endgame
is this possible to perform on a ps4 controller?
if your insane maybe
@@CTMKD Anyone else?
Any idea what dead swapping is anyone?
Starting with any weapon, switch to another weapon and then immediately to the first one. It used to be a thing with ssg in particular
@@sylar1313 oh thanks for the quick response you got a sub
@@sylar1313 Something I do all the time 🤣🤣
Yeah this seems to have either been majorly nerfed, or in the case of SB spam, pruned entirely. I can't get RL spam to work beyond 3 rockets.
Yea SB isnt working for me anymore, but i still se sylar doing it in his vids so im a bit confused tbh, did you ever figure it out?
@@Crit7k yea SB is the one i cant do with this tech
@@strix4836 For SB you have to shoot PB first then swap to SB and shoot and melee after each shot, it requires a bit of timing to get down, but SB will NOT pork with punch tech unless you shoot the PB first and swap to SB. (PB= Precision Bolt, SB= Sticky bomb for those who may be confused)
@@Crit7k thanks you very much Slayer. Gonna try this soon, since SB one of my favorite guns mods
@@strix4836 No problem :) (as far as rocket punch swap i still have no idea how to do it for more than 2 shots LOL)
how do u do the punch swap rockets so fast?
Probably doesn't work like that anymore. I've been trying this for an hour already with no progress. Only 2 fast rockets work. I would recommend to not waste time trying this combo, because it might have been fixed. PB + Rockets are pretty the same rate and are easier to learn
@@hesik3461 thanks but i dont play DE anymore, kinda got tired of it.
i can do all ultra tech except sticky bombs
i really tried, but never works
nah i got it now
If you dislike this, you dislike fun. If you don’t like the tech, don’t use it.
Ye pretty much how i feel about it, this tech isnt really fun imo so i wont use it. But ik some ppl will have a field day with it (speedrunners especially) so eh im not gonna cry about it lol
1:23 SSG
3:02 Rockets only
Man this ultrakill gameplay looks so weird I can't put it why
Did they remove the stickybomb one?
It's still there as far as I know
Fucking sick combos dude nice work
Noted.
I watch a lot of these videos and I go to try the things out but I’m on console so I can’t do it
cowboy slayer
I tried to do this in campaign to beat ultra nightmare. ended up hurting my hand lol. too many keys to press at the same time.
relatable
Interesting
Now show how to do it on controller
This is awesome but its definitely gonna get patched, more so if it works in battlemode.
i believe its not possible on consoles, right?
You can still melee on console. It’s just harder to spam and aim unless you change keybinds
Impossible on unmodded controllers because you don't have dedicated weapon keys
Ritinder Kaur well it’s whole thing is swapping a weapon with itself, I’d say bind melee to a bumper and call it a day
@@chockie8363 You can only swap to your previous weapon on console is what I meant to say
yeah, not possible, unless you use 2 different guns i think.
3:45 it kinda matches the beat 😂
This could be abused with the ssg so hard.
Patched?
what the hell is this
EZ macro for EZ DPS 🙃
game is over. this tech is way too strong, and way too simple. not cool tech. can't wait to use it all the time!
please, stop fucking this game, i can’t take it anymore
Try not to vomit from the screenshake
Holy this should be patched
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