He not only died on friday the 13th, but also 13 minutes before midnight, and at age 76, where the sum of the two digits equals 13. He was also born on the 13th by the way.
Schoenberg in his tonal period was under the double influence of Wagner and Brahms - which can be retrieved here. He explored the tonality up to its limits, then decided after many hesitations to use atonality, which he further on structured through serialism. Here, we are at the beginning of the process and have a very moving symphonic poem for chamber formation.
@@semcmeans6062 It wasn't a dead end street at the time though (and it still isn't). Schoenberg is one of the most talked about and studied composers of the 20th century precisely because he explored atonality and serialism.
@@JamesKeithProduction that's not how one must see a painting. "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts" applies most appropriately to art. So just look and be terrified. Don't let petty questions hinder the direct experience
Mon cher papa tu n'es plus en mesure d'entendre cela, mais c'est toi qui un jour a ramené ce disque à la maison, cette merveille dont je suis tombé amoureux immédiatement et qui n'a jamais trouvé d'équivalent à mes yeux. Tout mon amour jamais assez exprimé opportunément.
I find it so strange that I happen to be sitting here, on a Friday the 13th, studying the biography of Arnold Schoenberg, just to find out that today would've been his birthday and not only that, he also died on a Friday the 13th, AND the "best" part? throughout his life, he was absolutely terrified by the number 13, which HAPPENS to be my favorite number... OOF.
I think he died BECAUSE of his fear. The fact that Schoenberg health is the best, plus his superstition believe, create an awkward stage of physical and mental health. Then death takes him when he's in his worst stage (include the mental factor). These kinds of events make superstition and "logical" arguments blurry, and that's why I make this comment. To inform that, though the world has much coincidence, there are a ton of explanations that, though might not be a reality, are very good to remind us about the world order.
I'm much in agreement with you. The desperation of the darkness makes the light that much more beautiful, but I can also see the beauty of darkness, the seductive poison beauty.
For the average UA-cam visitor, the sections of this piece can be summed up as: 1. "Dude, I'm a slut" 2. "Smack my bitch up" 3. "The defendant will pay child support"
I find it strange everyone has such dark interpretations of this piece. I find a deep sense of warmth, hope, and happiness conveyed especially towards the end.
first time listening to this piece and I agree. It really is the sound of one's view of the night being transfigured from a place of sadness and fear to one of beauty and serenity. Embracing the darkness and all, that's some Carl Jung shit yo
@@maria199736 He based the piece on a poem even though it's instrumental. A woman is confessing to her new lover that she is pregnant from her previous relationship, but the man reassures her that he will love the child as his own. Plus some fun Romantic mystical stuff on top. The piece is exactly about what you're describing.
This makes me think of Dr. Dika Newlin, who was the last Shoenberg Scholar and a professor at Virginia Commonwealth University. I waited on her every Sunday for years at a restaurant in Richmond. She was the most eccentric, creative genius I believe I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. Rest in peace Dika.
This is a sextet, a form of chamber music which does not require a conductor, each part has only one player. That said, it might be even more poignant as the players are the one who flip the score together, and what youre hearing is the collective breath of the ensemble. Im pretty sure Boulez isnt conducting but is just the name of the sextet/quartet
C. Yan H. I actually listened to the string orchestra playing this and it had a conductor, but I didn’t know it is suppose to be played by a sextet so thanks! (Sorry if I typed something wrong I’m not Englishman)
@@yesmansam6686 The person just after you described it like this: "It's like walking into the night and coming back in the early morning a different person. You find the corpse of your old self in the grass. You weep over the lifeless form not because it is dead, but because you know the sun will never rise again; it remains halted just below the horizon, tantalizing the fog laden land with the false dawn. "
+pinkmullet4 at the time it was revolutionary due to how much dissonance it had in this piece. And at the time people made riots on how terrible this music was.
For a start, pushing the boundaries of tonality to the extreme. If you listen to music by other composers around the same time, none of them dares to do what AS did - and he was only 25 when he wrote it! People didn't actually riot in the streets - there were disturbances in the theatre at Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, but that was 13 years later.
I do love this piece, and - God help me- wish Schoenberg had written just a few more like it. I’m looking forward to the day I can finally hear a live performance as fine as this.
Sounds like this belongs on one of those old dramatic romance movies. "No! I cannot go with you to Budapest!" "My love, but why?" "I don't believe you are an ethical man! I know you killed Clarance in cold blood! I'd be a fool to trust you it were only an accident! If only I knew you for what you were from the moment I let my temptation get the best of my judgement. Those devilish eyes played me for a mere fool. I-I... must bid you a farewell Jack. So long, and keep this." "Darla! No!" *Credits abruptly roll* Something like that.
HG Wells said "Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race" I fee the same when I see nearly a million You Tubers have listened to Schoenberg.
It's like walking into the night and coming back in the early morning a different person. You find the corpse of your old self in the grass. You weep over the lifeless form not because it is dead, but because you know the sun will never rise again; it remains halted just below the horizon, tantalizing the fog laden land with the false dawn.
i agree on most points except about the grass and the fog. it's not like that at all. it's more like the corpse was lying on concrete. astroturf, maybe. but there's definitely no fog. also, there is a distant smell of burning dartboards, hanging in the air like the ghost of promise left unfulfilled. yeah. and your wearing lederhosen. green ones. they're too small.
Odood19 - a beautifully expressed description. To come upon such a sensitive reaction to great art makes up for a great deal of the ignorant adolescent smut that this site spews up as Comment, whenever something of worth is offered.
It’s definitely a depressing piece but it almost feels like you can hear the naive love and hope in it, like the cry of someone in an abusive relationship
This piece feels as if I am in despair en everytime the desperation gets more intens, the closer to salvation I become. Light shines, however never enough to stop despairing. Increasingly causing more atonality, or madness and fright. I love it
Perhaps my favorite version of this piece. Boulez directs it looking forward, to what Schonberg would compose later. The dissonances are given full voice in this version - but Boulez of course respects its post-romantic character.
Listening to this piece is like sinking into lower and lower layers of hell, unable to tell whether each is truly painful, or more sublime than the previous. I disagree that his work is dark; instead of relating one emotion, it shows the inner workings of our emotional processing, as we drift from one state to another I like it
14:40 Listen to the end of this extremely scary part. Suddenly the mood changes. It becomes kind of misterious. 15:33 You have survived the storm. Everything is okay. Life is good again 17:07 In fact even more beautiful than before.
BUT THEN!, SUDDENLY! YOU FEEL SOMETHING CRAWLING ACCROSS YOUR BRAIN! OH WAIT, IS THAT SATAN'S TONGUE LICKING MY BRAIN OR IS HE JUST RUBBING CRUSHED GLASS INTO MY FRONTAL LOBE?
Boulez's interpretation of Verklärte Nacht is just superb. He is such a meticulous and cerebral conductor that expressionist music seems to be tailored for him. His Webern recordings are just as amazing... Thanks for posting !
Quién no entró o cayó en la noche transfigurada, acompañado de Boulez, para descubrirnos a nuestro ángel, Arnold Schoenberg, desde las profundas entrañas de los misterios del alma que se duele
Although this masterpiece is one of highest pinnacles of late romanticism, the genius of Boulez is to make it sound timeless almost pre-classical - sparse and spare and lean and taut and completely lacking in self-indulgence. A miraculous performance. All the more moving because it doesn't try to be.
***** I'm not a musician, and I didn't really study music theory at all, so I'm not sure I can give you the right answer, but having listened to a whole lot of music across a wide variety of genres, I'm going to say that judging music objectively is not possible. Judging entires in particular genres though, might be a bit easier. If you're asking wether or not I think this music is objectively good, then I really have no answer for you. I don't know what makes music objectively good. I would appreciate it if you told me what you believe makes it so.
***** I have to disagree. There are lots of pieces of music that I've listened to that had NOTHING beautiful about them, or about the feeling they were trying to convey, that ended both very enjoyable for me, and were highly rated by critics. They are, by design, chaotic and without any real rhythm, and the vocals in them are almost ugly, yet they are still of high quality to a lot of people. (BTW, I am not talking about dubstep or electronic music.)They say that they are objectively good and I find myself agreeing with them. Do you think these people are objectively wrong? Do you think they don't understand music as it's really meant to be understood?
***** So music is only meant to convey ONE kind of emotion, in your opinion? If a piece successfully and masterfully conveys the feeling the creator intended, it's still a FAIL if the feeling isn't beauty? That's a very strange and frankly very limiting view of art. Also, what makes beauty somehow realer than anger, confusion or even fear? We would not have survived as a species without some of those emotions. If you claim an objective truth can be found, I don't think this is it.
***** "The purpose of music is to convey beauty. The objective quality of a piece of music is determined based on how well is does that. A piece of music that is beautiful is objectively good. One that is not is objectively bad." Do you even know what objective means? Beauty is very far from objective. How do you objectively define what is beautiful?
@@ProductofNZ really? For me love is riddled with anxiety. Not to sound over sentimental or sappy, but it truly is the best pain, euphoric and dagger like
@@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 in my experience I've had exhilarating, adrenaline inducing fear while in love but not anxiety. Anxiety to me is like a dark pit... I can't say I've felt while in love lol.
this was his early compositions. felt so much pain and lyricism and echoes of being. very dramatic piece of art. respect. was my friends favorite composer of all ages.
All the people who hate atonal / serial music need to listen to this. Schoenberg was a genius. Even if you hate everything else he wrote, this one piece he wrote as a young adult is the vouchsafe.
Every time I hear this piece, I tonally relive my mid-teenage years, when stale, hopeless, institutional numbness and depression gave way to informational richness and intellectual beauty beyond description; I could just lose it and weep like a baby.
Me too - especially in this recording with Pierre Boulez . Please listen to his early recording of Gustav Mahler's Adagio from the Symphonie Nr.10 (1971) ...
Yes me too, these sounds are all those thoughts, ideas and feelings, vibrant, impacient, repressed, without a real form... that shaked me and prevent me from sleeping at that time. Each time I hear this, they shake me again and I cry.
sempercompellis Yeah, I'm sure it seems that way. I chose this username (OfCourseGeorgeWins) to tease those with whom I get into debates; but for genuine, sentimental posts it's somewhat jarring. I'm considering changing it.
My mother took a class, probably form and analysis, from Schoenberg at UCLA. At one time, she had complete notes on the twelve-tone system, but these disappeared. She mentioned Schoenberg's ability to demonstrate any classical style on the classroom piano.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Schoenberg’s music. The melodies are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical atonality most of the themes will go over a typical listener’s head. There’s also his modernistic style, which is deftly woven into his compositions- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Alexander Zemlinsky composotions, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these nonmelodies, to realise that they’re not just meaningless- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Schoenberg truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the presence in Schoenberg’s existential fear of the number thirteen, which itself is a cryptic reference to his “Das Buch der hängenden Gärten“. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Arnold’s genius complex twelve tone works unfold themselves in their ears. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a tattoo of my favorite melody of his. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
This is the best interpretation of this piece on youtube. The musicians stick exactly to the emotions conveyed by the music (I especially adore the change from 6:04 to 6:55). In addition, I am a chamber music lover and I can't bear listening to the tons of orchestral versions we find on the site lol
This piece is truly my soul mate...I hear all my life written on the pages and it brings me soo much warmth. An Amazing ethereal piece of pure spirit and journey.
This is my first exposure to this composer. I love how the struggle and foreboding is juxtaposed with warm gentle melodies that wash over you in long waves...and then the decent into madness...a veritable storm of conflict...and again, sweet sad comfort. I will definitely be listening to more Schoenberg. Thanks poster :)
É a primeira vez que ouço schonberg. Em sua música consigo sentir uma mistura de emoções. É a evolução e o ápice. Vai desde a Calmaria até o desespero.
Best version ever! Happy to have seen and heard Boulez directing this wonderful work of art in Santiago de Chile in the 90's, still cannot believe it😳❤
@@ela99 How about: For the bad days: Mahler 2, Tchaik 4, Rach C#m prelude, Bach Cm Passacaglia & Fugue, Shosty 12, Schubert SQ 14, Mozart Requiem, Shosty 11 For the good days: Mozart Flute & Harp Concerto, Mozart 29, Tchaik Capriccio Italien, Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique Arguably also Mahler Das Lied von der Erde and Schubert 5, Brahms 4 and Violin Concerto, Bruckner 9, Mozart 25, Mendy 4, Schubert 8... And if we're including openings to movements: Mozart 41 IV, Brahms 4 IV, Mozart PC 21 Adagio, Verdi Requiem Dies Irae, Bruckner 9 II... oh and Strauss Also sprach Zarathustra I suppose... (bit cliché but it's still real good) PS Yes, this is all subjective, even though you're totally wrong >:c ...and of course anything ever written by dear ol' Ludwig Van
«Solo una naturaleza seria y profunda puede encontrar sonidos semejantes, solo un talento extraordinario puede lograr brillar de tal modo en caminos tan oscuros»
Maravillosa pieza. Me llamó la atención la pintura, muy similar a la portada de Seasons in the Abyss, de Slayer. Estilos aparentemente lejanos, pero muy cercanos en la intensidad que provocan. Despues de todo, esto era trasgresor e iconoclasta en su tiempo, y aun vigente. Gracias por compartir
I can understand why some may not like this work. However, hitting the dislike sign implies a disregard for the value of a work that stands as a sign-post between Strum und Drang and the conceptually sublime. Just a challenge?
One additional thing: this is late Romanticism, not only in musical style, but also for its program; it used to be the custom to identify sections of the music with stanzas of Richard Dehmel's poem, also called "Transfigured Night."
Boulez also directed one of the finest recordings one can find of this work's transcription for string orchestra. It differs from Karajan's very fine recording with the BPO in that Boulez has a very 20 th Century reading of the work whereas Karajan is definitely turn of the Century post-romantic. This recording of Verklärte Nacht in its original Chamber Music form is one of the best one can find, at least in my book. Boulez' direction is precise (as always) and every detail of the work stands out wonderfully. A blessing!
Yes, indeed- the recording he made with the strings of the New York Phil in the 70s is where I learned to love this piece. It's a great performance- so passionate, intense, throbbingly beautiful!
+Melvyn Elphee I got to know and love this work in the full string orchestra version, also conducted by Boulez with the strings of the New York Phil ( back in the 70s). This is a similar interpretation of this magical work. Check out his full string orchestra recording- the deeply moving section ( beginning at 17.07 in this present youtube clip) and the final pages ( 28.04 in this recording) are so intense and heartbreakingly beautiful- beyond words...
Good sample points: 2:09 w/ drop at 2:30 (OrigamiXP Schoenberg Type Beat) 4:45 w/ drop at 5:04 (My Schoenberg 2 Beat) 6:30 (Outro of Schoenberg! by Quadeca) 8:01 w/ drop at 8:22 (Schoenberg! by Quadeca main section) 8:40 cool background for hard beat 10:33 w/ drop at 10:49 (My Schoenberg 3 Beat) 22:18 w/ drop at 22:31 (unused) 26:25 w/ drop at 26:35 or 26:38 to be determined
I find it strange, that Arnold Schoenberg was absolutely terrified of the number 13, and then died on friday the 13th.
I guess he was right.
that prof pic man. love it
He not only died on friday the 13th, but also 13 minutes before midnight, and at age 76, where the sum of the two digits equals 13. He was also born on the 13th by the way.
froterons - I find your profile picture terrifying.
Wow, did I just get 13 likes!?
I always tried to avoid Schoenberg because of the harsh critics. I made a huge mistake, this is so damn beautiful. Just brilliant.
+Eldereth Never listen the critics, make your own opinion.
+mlkdfs Great advice indeed.
+Eldereth et al. Sure! I would also add "also avoid cheap psychological diagnostics if you have nothing interesting to say about art."
+Eldereth What exactly did the critics say?
+Caffeine Cantata better advice tho
I'll play this to my children when they are babies ,will be interesting to see how they turn out
Kelly molnar plz don’t 😂
do you recall that by Glenn Gould by any chance?
Bent no doubt.
schizophrenic
Kelly molnar good idea , no sugar coating life and crap ..
Yay, a piece by Schoenberg with one of his painting gets over 2 million views and glowing reviews. There is hope for the world!
you're a pendejo. Your abuela doesn't like you.
I am responsible for like a half of that
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Thanks I was wondering who the artist was of cover art painting . Ty
4,r by now
Schoenberg in his tonal period was under the double influence of Wagner and Brahms - which can be retrieved here. He explored the tonality up to its limits, then decided after many hesitations to use atonality, which he further on structured through serialism. Here, we are at the beginning of the process and have a very moving symphonic poem for chamber formation.
He incorporated Brahms's formal concepts with Wagner's extended tonality.
I always enjoy your observations.
He should've stayed here and pushed tonal. Atonal is a dead end street. He squandered his talent.
Stuart McMeans a dead end street? Not sure I agree with this.
@@semcmeans6062 It wasn't a dead end street at the time though (and it still isn't). Schoenberg is one of the most talked about and studied composers of the 20th century precisely because he explored atonality and serialism.
It's a self-portrait of Schoenberg
What do you think the thick red outlines around the eyes are meant to represent?
Red paint
@@JamesKeithProduction constant fear
@@JamesKeithProduction
His high
@@JamesKeithProduction that's not how one must see a painting. "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts" applies most appropriately to art. So just look and be terrified. Don't let petty questions hinder the direct experience
Mon cher papa tu n'es plus en mesure d'entendre cela, mais c'est toi qui un jour a ramené ce disque à la maison, cette merveille dont je suis tombé amoureux immédiatement et qui n'a jamais trouvé d'équivalent à mes yeux. Tout mon amour jamais assez exprimé opportunément.
I find it so strange that I happen to be sitting here, on a Friday the 13th, studying the biography of Arnold Schoenberg, just to find out that today would've been his birthday and not only that, he also died on a Friday the 13th, AND the "best" part? throughout his life, he was absolutely terrified by the number 13, which HAPPENS to be my favorite number... OOF.
And its 13 hours (1pm) here. Now im scared...
He was born in September 13, died in July 13. Died at 76 years, 7 + 6 = 13
this is...
@@lucasramos253 When the brain gets feed too much information, they start to find patterns that aren't there
I think he died BECAUSE of his fear. The fact that Schoenberg health is the best, plus his superstition believe, create an awkward stage of physical and mental health.
Then death takes him when he's in his worst stage (include the mental factor).
These kinds of events make superstition and "logical" arguments blurry, and that's why I make this comment. To inform that, though the world has much coincidence, there are a ton of explanations that, though might not be a reality, are very good to remind us about the world order.
@@segmentsAndCurves If we find patterns, why they are not there?
@@lucasramos253 The lack of more information to prove its legitimatecy, I guess?
If you do not embrace the dark you cannot appreciate the light.
I quite agree. We need them both to grow.
M Shinoda, that is exactly what I meant.
in what way you describe darkness with fear?
music can be adapt to any emotional distress must not to be confuses with fear..
I'm much in agreement with you. The desperation of the darkness makes the light that much more beautiful, but I can also see the beauty of darkness, the seductive poison beauty.
lol XDDDD SAAAAMMMEEEE rofllll *laugh cries*
00:00 Sehr langsam - Section 1
06:31 Breiter - Section 2
11:52 Schwer betont - Section 3
15:24 Sehr breit und langsam - Section 4
25:18 Sehr ruhig - Section 5
Thank you
For the average UA-cam visitor, the sections of this piece can be summed up as:
1. "Dude, I'm a slut"
2. "Smack my bitch up"
3. "The defendant will pay child support"
Section 4 is my favorite~ It's emotional, sad but hopeful
I like how _langsam_ can describe something that's slow, but in a "long" sense, instead of "not rapid".
@@wattd6602 rofl
I find it strange everyone has such dark interpretations of this piece. I find a deep sense of warmth, hope, and happiness conveyed especially towards the end.
To me feels just like an intense panic attack and the serotonic kick you get after a long cry
Thé gloomy section in B natural major xith slow tremolos.....
first time listening to this piece and I agree. It really is the sound of one's view of the night being transfigured from a place of sadness and fear to one of beauty and serenity. Embracing the darkness and all, that's some Carl Jung shit yo
@@maria199736 He based the piece on a poem even though it's instrumental. A woman is confessing to her new lover that she is pregnant from her previous relationship, but the man reassures her that he will love the child as his own. Plus some fun Romantic mystical stuff on top. The piece is exactly about what you're describing.
@@a_pet_rock cool! I love the fun romantic mystical stuff on top ✨
This makes me think of Dr. Dika Newlin, who was the last Shoenberg Scholar and a professor at Virginia Commonwealth University. I waited on her every Sunday for years at a restaurant in Richmond. She was the most eccentric, creative genius I believe I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. Rest in peace Dika.
she lived quite the life as per her wikipedia. rest in peace
I love the fact that you can hear how the conductor changes pages and his breathing driving the rhythm of this masterpiece
This is a sextet, a form of chamber music which does not require a conductor, each part has only one player. That said, it might be even more poignant as the players are the one who flip the score together, and what youre hearing is the collective breath of the ensemble. Im pretty sure Boulez isnt conducting but is just the name of the sextet/quartet
Kristof Szobacsi
It almost sounds like quiet sobs.
C. Yan H. I actually listened to the string orchestra playing this and it had a conductor, but I didn’t know it is suppose to be played by a sextet so thanks! (Sorry if I typed something wrong I’m not Englishman)
@@yesmansam6686 The person just after you described it like this: "It's like walking into the night and coming back in the early morning a different person. You find the corpse of your old self in the grass. You weep over the lifeless form not because it is dead, but because you know the sun will never rise again; it remains halted just below the horizon, tantalizing the fog laden land with the false dawn. "
me too
A.S. was only 24 years old when he wrote this monumental, ground-breaking and beautiful work!
+Alexander Brown more like ear breaking
+Alexander Brown What was ground breaking about it?
+pinkmullet4 at the time it was revolutionary due to how much dissonance it had in this piece. And at the time people made riots on how terrible this music was.
+Jonas Montoya at the time
For a start, pushing the boundaries of tonality to the extreme. If you listen to music by other composers around the same time, none of them dares to do what AS did - and he was only 25 when he wrote it! People didn't actually riot in the streets - there were disturbances in the theatre at Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, but that was 13 years later.
Absolutely staggering. How am I just discovering Schoenberg?!
I do love this piece, and - God help me- wish Schoenberg had written just a few more like it. I’m looking forward to the day I can finally hear a live performance as fine as this.
You can check out the orchestral preludes and interludes from Pelleas et Melisande
The painting is by Schoenberg himself : he was also a taleted painter !
A lot of thanks
Talented and tortured
Interesting, thanks, I knew the painting and the composer but never thought they were linked!
And it is totally NOT the image to represent Transfigured Night.
Looks like Andy Warhol
thanks i was wondering who made it
They say that Arnold Schoenberg lived in consonant fear
+Pierre Veniot
that's is a good one, sir
At least now he's laid to rest
+Hearty Oatmeal Good one, sir
That's why he made such a dissonance
do you mean 'consonance' fear?
I cried the strangest tears with this ..not from joy nor despair almost freeing.. some sort of neautral state
Sounds like this belongs on one of those old dramatic romance movies.
"No! I cannot go with you to Budapest!"
"My love, but why?"
"I don't believe you are an ethical man! I know you killed Clarance in cold blood! I'd be a fool to trust you it were only an accident! If only I knew you for what you were from the moment I let my temptation get the best of my judgement. Those devilish eyes played me for a mere fool. I-I... must bid you a farewell Jack. So long, and keep this."
"Darla! No!"
*Credits abruptly roll*
Something like that.
Well, it is called Romanticism for a reason
You won a cookie for running the original comment lmao.
To the original comment: that was very well written :)
Scarlett Durán I did it specifically to upset you. Piss off
@@shroomzed2947 I don't think she/he was talking to you nor insulting anyone though.
There are not humans in this music. They do not exist yet.
Every time I listen to this piece and close my eyes it absolutely destroys me emotionally. It is far above and beyond just "beautiful".
Terrifying and stunningly beautiful at the same time; an absolute masterpiece!
whenever I M depressed I hum a few bars of Schoeny that always cheers me up!
hands down one of the most beautiful compositions i’ve heard ever
The painting brought me here.
me too
BOBMAN1980 ewww wtf is dat creepy painting
Bronk Tug
It's a painting by Schoenberg himself. He painted it under the guidance of Richard Gerstl.
BOBMAN1980 very impressionistic, like the music obviously
Yunus Qurbanlı schoenberg was more of an expressionist
HG Wells said "Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race" I fee the same when I see nearly a million You Tubers have listened to Schoenberg.
Nearly at two million now. There's always hope to be found.
@LokiRudder Good for him.
SO WELL SAID, SAYS CAPT OLSON, DK
On contrary, I think 2 millions de views on Schoenberg is a reason for despair.
@@ViniciusDias_gb Better this genius than 6ix9ine
I LOVE his tonal period! I enjoy on an intellectual and cerebral level his atonal period. But man my feels really hit in this!
Agreed!
It's like walking into the night and coming back in the early morning a different person. You find the corpse of your old self in the grass. You weep over the lifeless form not because it is dead, but because you know the sun will never rise again; it remains halted just below the horizon, tantalizing the fog laden land with the false dawn.
i forget where that is from
Ilyich Vasilievich Original
i agree on most points except about the grass and the fog. it's not like that at all. it's more like the corpse was lying on concrete. astroturf, maybe. but there's definitely no fog. also, there is a distant smell of burning dartboards, hanging in the air like the ghost of promise left unfulfilled.
yeah.
and your wearing lederhosen. green ones. they're too small.
conventgsp They aren't to small they are just rolling up weird. They actually were a touch baggy when you went out last night.
Odood19 - a beautifully expressed description. To come upon such a sensitive reaction to great art makes up for a great deal of the ignorant adolescent smut that this site spews up as Comment, whenever something of worth is offered.
It’s definitely a depressing piece but it almost feels like you can hear the naive love and hope in it, like the cry of someone in an abusive relationship
This piece feels as if I am in despair en everytime the desperation gets more intens, the closer to salvation I become. Light shines, however never enough to stop despairing. Increasingly causing more atonality, or madness and fright. I love it
diese Musik gefaellt mir so! Herr Schoenberg bin ich so dankbar fuer diese schoene Komposition!
Perhaps my favorite version of this piece. Boulez directs it looking forward, to what Schonberg would compose later. The dissonances are given full voice in this version - but Boulez of course respects its post-romantic character.
Listening to this piece is like sinking into lower and lower layers of hell, unable to tell whether each is truly painful, or more sublime than the previous. I disagree that his work is dark; instead of relating one emotion, it shows the inner workings of our emotional processing, as we drift from one state to another
I like it
still dark
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But at the same time, still lovable.
@@efreetedgoat3870 yup
I'm so glad to read this.
It puts me in my happy place.
This piece stirred me from my depressive stupor and I'm thankful for that
his music is the type that you can't describe but you like it
14:40 Listen to the end of this extremely scary part. Suddenly the mood changes. It becomes kind of misterious.
15:33 You have survived the storm. Everything is okay. Life is good again
17:07 In fact even more beautiful than before.
Hmmm. Mist..erious. I think you unintentionally created some beautiful poetry. I will never look at that word in the same way.
@desadusproper Lol i help where i can, no worries, mate
@@angelamoskal5926 haha! you are right. misterious is even more appropriate
BUT THEN!, SUDDENLY! YOU FEEL SOMETHING CRAWLING ACCROSS YOUR BRAIN! OH WAIT, IS THAT SATAN'S TONGUE LICKING MY BRAIN OR IS HE JUST RUBBING CRUSHED GLASS INTO MY FRONTAL LOBE?
@@angelamoskal5926 FUNNY, I THOUGHT IT SPELT MISSERIE
Boulez's interpretation of Verklärte Nacht is just superb. He is such a meticulous and cerebral conductor that expressionist music seems to be tailored for him. His Webern recordings are just as amazing... Thanks for posting !
Now I understand why his music was so often chosen for Film Noir, it goes perfectly with that kind of expressionism in film
Una musica che uno rimane senza parole, un grandissimo capolavoro, grandissimi maestri Schönberg e Boulez
Quién no entró o cayó en la noche transfigurada, acompañado de Boulez, para descubrirnos a nuestro ángel, Arnold Schoenberg, desde las profundas entrañas de los misterios del alma que se duele
I always felt a connection to music and this just carries me off to a zen I've never reached otherwise. ❤️
Try The Dillinger Escape Plan.
@@disaffected_malcontent I'll have to check them out. Thanks ☺️
Literally a soundtrack of a descent to some very dark places.
I love it
Beautiful.
Although this masterpiece is one of highest pinnacles of late romanticism, the genius of Boulez is to make it sound timeless almost pre-classical - sparse and spare and lean and taut and completely lacking in self-indulgence. A miraculous performance. All the more moving because it doesn't try to be.
So beautifully and accurately stated.
I really have no idea how I got here, boy am I glad I did. This is captivating.
***** Tastes exist, and your opinion is completely valid.
***** I'm not a musician, and I didn't really study music theory at all, so I'm not sure I can give you the right answer, but having listened to a whole lot of music across a wide variety of genres, I'm going to say that judging music objectively is not possible. Judging entires in particular genres though, might be a bit easier. If you're asking wether or not I think this music is objectively good, then I really have no answer for you. I don't know what makes music objectively good. I would appreciate it if you told me what you believe makes it so.
***** I have to disagree. There are lots of pieces of music that I've listened to that had NOTHING beautiful about them, or about the feeling they were trying to convey, that ended both very enjoyable for me, and were highly rated by critics. They are, by design, chaotic and without any real rhythm, and the vocals in them are almost ugly, yet they are still of high quality to a lot of people. (BTW, I am not talking about dubstep or electronic music.)They say that they are objectively good and I find myself agreeing with them. Do you think these people are objectively wrong? Do you think they don't understand music as it's really meant to be understood?
***** So music is only meant to convey ONE kind of emotion, in your opinion? If a piece successfully and masterfully conveys the feeling the creator intended, it's still a FAIL if the feeling isn't beauty? That's a very strange and frankly very limiting view of art.
Also, what makes beauty somehow realer than anger, confusion or even fear? We would not have survived as a species without some of those emotions. If you claim an objective truth can be found, I don't think this is it.
***** "The purpose of music is to convey beauty. The objective quality of a piece of music is determined based on how well is does that. A piece of music that is beautiful is objectively good. One that is not is
objectively bad."
Do you even know what objective means? Beauty is very far from objective. How do you objectively define what is beautiful?
The pain brought me back.
THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY OF EVER!!!!!!!!!
So, let's LOVE this MASTERPIECE. ..
NOW and FOREVERMORE!!
💖💖💖
It`s amazing how this touch your soul...its almolst like u could feel the pain...a genius...
I sense nothing but that same sort of anxiety one feels before falling deep into the abyss of love from this
Do you mean fear? Anxiety to me is an abiding dread. Which I cannot say I've attributed to falling in love before.
@@ProductofNZ really? For me love is riddled with anxiety. Not to sound over sentimental or sappy, but it truly is the best pain, euphoric and dagger like
@@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 in my experience I've had exhilarating, adrenaline inducing fear while in love but not anxiety. Anxiety to me is like a dark pit... I can't say I've felt while in love lol.
Going through this right now...
I'm glad someone understands.
4:00 AM
I can feel this music trough all my body, and when that appens you know how special that music is.
Qué agonía, dolor, y melancolía me transmite esta hermosa pieza de arte.
What an amazing piece of music.
this was his early compositions. felt so much pain and lyricism and echoes of being. very dramatic piece of art. respect. was my friends favorite composer of all ages.
This is the music of despair right here... Especially the first section... 😭
All the people who hate atonal / serial music need to listen to this. Schoenberg was a genius. Even if you hate everything else he wrote, this one piece he wrote as a young adult is the vouchsafe.
Don't forget Gurrelieder
Pretty tough. Exhausting. Excellent. Masterful.
Well done mr Schoenberg!
Oh wow, the wonderful resolution at 15:24, that was so powerful!
That hit me somewhere nothing else ever has.
This is what existential struggle sounds like. True and beautiful.
I see spooky picture, I click
como eu vivi até hoje sem conhecer essa peça? está tudo aqui ansiedade, sublimação e obsessão. obrigada por postar.
Estou na mesma situação em 2018.
Idem aqui, me sinto até um pouco representado por está peça
Every time I hear this piece, I tonally relive my mid-teenage years, when stale, hopeless, institutional numbness and depression gave way to informational richness and intellectual beauty beyond description; I could just lose it and weep like a baby.
Me too - especially in this recording with Pierre Boulez . Please listen to his early recording of Gustav Mahler's Adagio from
the Symphonie Nr.10 (1971) ...
Yes me too, these sounds are all those thoughts, ideas and feelings, vibrant, impacient, repressed, without a real form... that shaked me and prevent me from sleeping at that time. Each time I hear this, they shake me again and I cry.
About the painting in the video... I would suggest "Musik" of Klimt, simple, complex, beautiful and strange... also almost same time and place.
Wow are you into yourself.
sempercompellis Yeah, I'm sure it seems that way. I chose this username (OfCourseGeorgeWins) to tease those with whom I get into debates; but for genuine, sentimental posts it's somewhat jarring. I'm considering changing it.
Just discovered this today. Wow, it takes the spot for my favorite work. This is stunning !
My mother took a class, probably form and analysis, from Schoenberg at UCLA. At one time, she had complete notes on the twelve-tone system, but these disappeared. She mentioned Schoenberg's ability to demonstrate any classical style on the classroom piano.
ESTA NOCHE TRANFIGURADA...PERFECTA...MARAVILLOSA..
Probably the most emotional thing I've ever heard
YOU AIN'T BEEN AROUND... HAVE YOU?
What a masterpiece! It's like breathing the atmosphere of Vienna at the beginning of the 20th century.
I am glad to have found this piece again after so many years. Then as now there was/is no resistance, just acceptance and reward.
c'est la première fois que j'écoute cette oeuvre bouleversante. l'interprétation est poignante. sommet du romantisme allemand.
R.I.P. Pierre Boulez.
@Ektor Gutes Dorf Presumably because he's the conductor, though sextets generally manage fine without one.
Listening to this when I'm sick isn't making me feel any better lmao
Bcs it wasn't meant to be pleasing but to give more expression
We?
This is exactly what I am living for
Sounds like someone slowly going insane. "Masterpiece" would certainly be an appropriate term to describe this piece of music.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Schoenberg’s music. The melodies are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical atonality most of the themes will go over a typical listener’s head. There’s also his modernistic style, which is deftly woven into his compositions- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Alexander Zemlinsky composotions, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these nonmelodies, to realise that they’re not just meaningless- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Schoenberg truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the presence in Schoenberg’s existential fear of the number thirteen, which itself is a cryptic reference to his “Das Buch der hängenden Gärten“. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Arnold’s genius complex twelve tone works unfold themselves in their ears. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a tattoo of my favorite melody of his. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
M'lady
HAHAHAHAHAHA, "you have to have a very high IQ to understand Schoenberg’s music". Prime example of a superiority complex looooooool
It's a meme, Ajay. It originates from a bash on Rick and Morty fans.
Ah, thats cool.
A coisa mais terrivelmente linda que já ouvi na vida. A angustiante beleza disso... Schöenberg é um absurdo!
This is the best interpretation of this piece on youtube. The musicians stick exactly to the emotions conveyed by the music (I especially adore the change from 6:04 to 6:55). In addition, I am a chamber music lover and I can't bear listening to the tons of orchestral versions we find on the site lol
i had goosebumps for the entire piece.
a real masterpiece.
Beautiful and melancholic at the same time. Just wonderful.
this is unique. I think I heard and felt what the man was trying to say.
"Skidaddle skidoodle your dick is now a noodle"
This piece is truly my soul mate...I hear all my life written on the pages and it brings me soo much warmth. An Amazing ethereal piece of pure spirit and journey.
This music is as close to perfection as I think you can come to.
This is my first exposure to this composer. I love how the struggle and foreboding is juxtaposed with warm gentle melodies that wash over you in long waves...and then the decent into madness...a veritable storm of conflict...and again, sweet sad comfort.
I will definitely be listening to more Schoenberg. Thanks poster :)
É a primeira vez que ouço schonberg. Em sua música consigo sentir uma mistura de emoções. É a evolução e o ápice. Vai desde a Calmaria até o desespero.
sim, 2023 ainda vive pra ouvir essa obra prima ?
Best version ever! Happy to have seen and heard Boulez directing this wonderful work of art in Santiago de Chile in the 90's, still cannot believe it😳❤
This music depicts my mind flawlessly.
I'm so happy classical music exist. 🥲 imagine a universe without it. It is one I would hope does not exist for the next guy.
Top ten best openings in classical music
Agree
nah
@@luigivercotti6410 what is better? :)
@@ela99 How about:
For the bad days:
Mahler 2, Tchaik 4, Rach C#m prelude, Bach Cm Passacaglia & Fugue, Shosty 12, Schubert SQ 14, Mozart Requiem, Shosty 11
For the good days:
Mozart Flute & Harp Concerto, Mozart 29, Tchaik Capriccio Italien, Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique
Arguably also Mahler Das Lied von der Erde and Schubert 5, Brahms 4 and Violin Concerto, Bruckner 9, Mozart 25, Mendy 4, Schubert 8...
And if we're including openings to movements:
Mozart 41 IV, Brahms 4 IV, Mozart PC 21 Adagio, Verdi Requiem Dies Irae, Bruckner 9 II...
oh and Strauss Also sprach Zarathustra I suppose... (bit cliché but it's still real good)
PS Yes, this is all subjective, even though you're totally wrong >:c
...and of course anything ever written by dear ol' Ludwig Van
this is so depressing and beautiful at the same time.
lol I wrote the exact same thing
depression and beautiful? idk man i would see a doctor
thats what she said
There's a story to it and you'll understand why.
Aria Von Death depression was not really a thing of the past. You people need to stop putting your “I wanna die” shit into everything
there’s something about this that makes me feel excited scared happy and sad all at the same time
Impossível não se sentir grudado nesta música, toma a gente por inteiro. Loucura, angústia e muita beleza, principalmente beleza!
This is one of Schönberg's earliest works thats why it is still quite beautiful. Listen to some of his pieces after 1909 and you will be terrified
I'm terrified by how beautiful they are.
@@segmentsAndCurves agree
«Solo una naturaleza seria y profunda puede encontrar sonidos
semejantes, solo un talento extraordinario puede lograr brillar de tal
modo en caminos tan oscuros»
Maravillosa pieza. Me llamó la atención la pintura, muy similar a la portada de Seasons in the Abyss, de Slayer. Estilos aparentemente lejanos, pero muy cercanos en la intensidad que provocan. Despues de todo, esto era trasgresor e iconoclasta en su tiempo, y aun vigente. Gracias por compartir
É a primeira vez que ouço schonberg, consigo sentir o amor e paixão que o mesmo dedica a esta obra de arte.
I can understand why some may not like this work. However, hitting the dislike sign implies a disregard for the value of a work that stands as a sign-post between Strum und Drang and the conceptually sublime. Just a challenge?
The painting is _The Red Gaze,_ a 32 x 25cm oil-on-board self-portrait (1910) by Schoenberg himself, now in a private collection.
One additional thing: this is late Romanticism, not only in musical style, but also for its program; it used to be the custom to identify sections of the music with stanzas of Richard Dehmel's poem, also called "Transfigured Night."
Boulez also directed one of the finest recordings one can find of this work's transcription for string orchestra. It differs from Karajan's very fine recording with the BPO in that Boulez has a very 20 th Century reading of the work whereas Karajan is definitely turn of the Century post-romantic. This recording of Verklärte Nacht in its original Chamber Music form is one of the best one can find, at least in my book. Boulez' direction is precise (as always) and every detail of the work stands out wonderfully. A blessing!
Yes, indeed- the recording he made with the strings of the New York Phil in the 70s is where I learned to love this piece. It's a great performance- so passionate, intense, throbbingly beautiful!
I know this work quite well but THIS performance took me by the throat! Superb. And good to see it has nearly 650,000 views!
+Melvyn Elphee I got to know and love this work in the full string orchestra version, also conducted by Boulez with the strings of the New York Phil ( back in the 70s). This is a similar interpretation of this magical work. Check out his full string orchestra recording- the deeply moving section ( beginning at 17.07 in this present youtube clip) and the final pages ( 28.04 in this recording) are so intense and heartbreakingly beautiful- beyond words...
Good sample points:
2:09 w/ drop at 2:30 (OrigamiXP Schoenberg Type Beat)
4:45 w/ drop at 5:04 (My Schoenberg 2 Beat)
6:30 (Outro of Schoenberg! by Quadeca)
8:01 w/ drop at 8:22 (Schoenberg! by Quadeca main section)
8:40 cool background for hard beat
10:33 w/ drop at 10:49 (My Schoenberg 3 Beat)
22:18 w/ drop at 22:31 (unused)
26:25 w/ drop at 26:35 or 26:38 to be determined
The parts sampled by quad are so fire even wit no beat
Stars cant shine without darkness
Nobody likes you
sun: am i joke to you?
@@osmaralejandroserenosorian3035 I know , I don't like anyone either .
@@osmaralejandroserenosorian3035 and nobody likes your incompetence's existence so whats your point?
@@questionableshowman5970 he's trolling. Though this kind of behaviour should go to the bin.
Love the colors and the parts for this work. Diverse, but beautifully melodic at the same time.