Bad Gear - Roland TR-8

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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland TR-8 Rhythm Performer. Has this 2014 drum machine already become a classic???

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  • @neurotransmission6825
    @neurotransmission6825 2 роки тому +51

    Come for the jokes and insight into gear, stay for the 90's references and sick jams.
    And lol at the guy that sold this for a drumbrute.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +9

      Thanks! That one had me ROFLing too!

  • @CroixMedia
    @CroixMedia 2 роки тому +84

    I love how in Ableton you kept that "How to Report a Crash" tutorial up. I've been feeling that a lot recently.

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf 2 роки тому +1

      Why ? Does it crash a lot for ppl

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +13

      Every. Single. Time.

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz wtf then, what should I pick if I wanna use lots of hardware synths but DAW sounds as well?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +4

      @@jdssurf it's more of s computer problem than an Ableton one. Reaper works on more or less every pocket calculator;)

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz So you would pic reaper over Ableton…………………I have to pull the trigger soon, I don’t want to shoot myself in the pecker

  • @matthewlister3755
    @matthewlister3755 2 роки тому +116

    "The sounds are spot on..."
    *shows screen shot of Rebirth*
    It's the little touches that makes this such a great show. That got a big chuckle out of me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you!!!

    • @adrianoconnor3020
      @adrianoconnor3020 2 роки тому +7

      I loved rebirth,it sounded great

    • @benmatthews8732
      @benmatthews8732 2 роки тому +2

      So glad someone else laughed at that, because that was a very good joke.

    • @BigEpinstriping
      @BigEpinstriping 2 роки тому

      @@benmatthews8732 I still have my copy. With the mousepad.

    • @Stopinvadingmyhardware
      @Stopinvadingmyhardware 2 роки тому

      Then you find out they used the Rebirth algorithms for the emulation

  • @Redge.
    @Redge. 2 роки тому +137

    The TR-8S (updated version of the TR-8, that includes a digital display and dozens of other classic Roland drum kits included) is my baby that ticks all of the boxes... yet somehow this video still makes me want a TR-8. Great work!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +12

      Thanks!

    • @Spherical_El
      @Spherical_El 2 роки тому +9

      Prices of OG double by Monday.

    • @ClifBratcher
      @ClifBratcher 2 роки тому +12

      Love the TR-8S, but I really wish Roland would either make an editor for it or expand its sysex capability. There's so much under the hood hiding behind all those menus.

    • @Redge.
      @Redge. 2 роки тому +3

      @@ClifBratcher YES! totally agreed

    • @modalmixture
      @modalmixture 2 роки тому +7

      @@ClifBratcher Yeah, Roland is great at providing way too many features/settings than the interface can realistically make use of. The sheer number of parameters for some of the effects is a little ridiculous. Do I really need to adjust the reverb early reflection and diffusion rates in a TR style drum machine? No. Could I do with a non-headache-inducing way to program pitch changes for the samples? PLEASE.

  • @imhatchmantoo
    @imhatchmantoo 2 роки тому +52

    This guy can take any piece of gear and really make it do some awesome stuff

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +5

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @felixpeccatum1705
    @felixpeccatum1705 2 роки тому +77

    The cancellation of the TR8 after the TR8s was to be expected. Still think the S bring more to the table in a studio setting, but I feel like I want a TR8, just for performance. Simplicity is sometimes just what you want, when balancing a beer, smoking a blunt and playing with your d-beam….

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +28

      Waiting for the d-beam upgrade;)

    • @felixpeccatum1705
      @felixpeccatum1705 2 роки тому +3

      Stereo in to hook up your SH-201! Go nuts! :)

    • @Redge.
      @Redge. 2 роки тому +8

      My thoughts exactly! I love my 8S for the amazing features it offers, but a straightforward approach like the TR8 can really speed up one's workflow

    • @Derzaubererer
      @Derzaubererer 2 роки тому +4

      i have a tr8 and damn i want the tr8s 2.0 update its exaclty what im missing with my tr8:o

    • @myousickoflife
      @myousickoflife 2 роки тому +3

      Perfectly said. The SH-201 and this bad boy go together like peanut butter and jelly

  • @lairdkilbarchan
    @lairdkilbarchan 2 роки тому +217

    Haha, another centre piece of my creativity brought into disrepute. You really should just come round my place and save yourself the hassle of any further research. 😁👍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +49

      Pics or didn't happen😂

    • @lairdkilbarchan
      @lairdkilbarchan 2 роки тому +22

      @@AudioPilz Dear Sir, I shall happy to provide the documentary evidence requested in due course. Yours sincerely, etc etc..

    • @avarlin
      @avarlin 2 роки тому +1

      Same.

    • @nachshonrorick
      @nachshonrorick 2 роки тому +6

      Yes, I have a tabletop full of stuff that was featured! Xio synth, Rc-09, microsampler...bring on the SH-32 and EF-303 feature 😜

    • @lairdkilbarchan
      @lairdkilbarchan 2 роки тому +20

      ​@@nachshonrorick It's beginning to dawn on me that music tech people are so insatiable that eventually EVERYTHING EVER MADE will eventually find itself on Bad Gear. You can guarantee even the finest bit of kit isn't good enough for somebody somewhere. You've gotta hand it to Florian, he's found a job for life. lol.

  • @old_romans
    @old_romans 2 роки тому +8

    Here I am in my office having lunch with my co-workers enjoying the stock footage of coworkers enjoying work

  • @TheScreamingFrog916
    @TheScreamingFrog916 Рік тому +9

    I love mine. Got the expansion for it too.
    I think it really sounds good, and has fun features, to spice up your jams.
    And I love the Green accents and colored LED buttons.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому

      Nice!

    • @iterativeincremental
      @iterativeincremental Рік тому +1

      yeah. it took me a while to get over the minimalism. It is a good new take. surely lacks in some areas. On the other hand the input with sidechain is a bummer that alone can drive a whole liveset ....

  • @cameronallen2174
    @cameronallen2174 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve had my TR-8 for years and JUST learned how to set the gain of individual instruments thank you!! Great video as always

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you!!! Gain staging is key!!!

  • @colinreynolds01
    @colinreynolds01 2 роки тому +1

    Came for the reviews, stayed for the badass jams. I just stumbled across your vids a few days ago and have since binged the lot. Fantastic stuff, brother!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you!!! Stick around!!!

  • @SirRigbyBaconKaiser
    @SirRigbyBaconKaiser 2 роки тому +20

    Okay I love the fact you chose the best of both worlds from TNG. This feels exactly what Roland wanted, an "analogue" experience with digital hardware.

  • @Owoshima_
    @Owoshima_ 2 роки тому +4

    This video really brings the "album when?" questions to the spotlight. Absolute fantastic video, and equally fantastic audio demos.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much! Which of the 8 requested albums are you referring to?;)

    • @Owoshima_
      @Owoshima_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz All of them. or a nice YT LP/EP of demos potentially.

  • @Dudderlyful
    @Dudderlyful 2 роки тому +22

    ITS FRIDAYYYYYYYYYY HERE WE GOOOOOOO... And now, back to our scheduled show

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Moog it's Friday!!!

    • @Dudderlyful
      @Dudderlyful 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Thanks heavens for Moog!

  • @Spherical_El
    @Spherical_El Рік тому

    One of the best reviews I could hope to watch - thanks .

  • @ASH-ou4cg
    @ASH-ou4cg 2 роки тому +1

    What an amazing song you made with this. So warm and relaxing!

  • @fatuzi
    @fatuzi 2 роки тому +18

    bad gear makes my fridays 🥰🥰🥰

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Happy to hear that, thanks!

  • @matrix12x
    @matrix12x 2 роки тому +6

    "So what did they mess up this time?".... love it!!

  • @andrewstanworth529
    @andrewstanworth529 2 місяці тому +2

    BEST. DRUM. MACHINE. EVER!!!!

  • @BCThunderthud
    @BCThunderthud 10 місяців тому +1

    Just rewatching this and I laughed out loud at the inspirational business montage.

  • @TimmyBolan
    @TimmyBolan 2 роки тому +19

    The highlight of my week, every week.

    • @ayashi3288
      @ayashi3288 2 роки тому

      This and regular car reviews

    • @AboveEmAllProduction
      @AboveEmAllProduction 2 роки тому

      Same but I think I'm growing out of it 😞❤️

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much!

    • @min-yishen9324
      @min-yishen9324 2 роки тому

      I know there is something wrong in my brain when I chose to watch Bad Gear before Tour de France and Euro 2020.

    • @cl1xor
      @cl1xor 2 роки тому

      Use it in your daily life to enjoy it at other days: at the first glance this lunch / excel sheet / quarterly result is ticking all the boxes :)

  • @auxlen
    @auxlen 2 роки тому +8

    I bought into the Aira range. I had the Tr-8, the mixer, and the TB-3 and spent many an evening jamming away. Sometimes that is the beauty of something, just fun. Yes, you could make music (ie record and master) but that was (IMHO) not what brought me joy.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +3

      The integration with the mixer seems super interesting!

    • @auxlen
      @auxlen 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz It was a lot of fun...maybe look into it.

  • @MusicianParadise
    @MusicianParadise 2 роки тому +2

    that scutter voice over was spot on , and your show is rollercoaster of emotions!

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement 2 роки тому

    Damn, I leave 2 weeks or so and have already 3 episodes to watch !
    I'm glad you keep making those in the summer but I still hope you enjoy some sort of vacation !

  • @rodmorrison47
    @rodmorrison47 2 роки тому +4

    I got mine used and already expanded with 707 sounds. I love it! Even the Return of the Jedi black & green colour scheme does it for me. I've gone into the settings and changed the TR colours on the buttons to green also, so it's like being in a sci fi movie when I use it in low light conditions. Awesome.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      I used sunglasses for the production of this episode;)

    • @micy80
      @micy80 Рік тому

      The 707 sounds upgrade are available for free or you need to pay? I am abou to buy a tr8 but unsure about this part. Appreciated!

  • @15913Music
    @15913Music 2 роки тому +6

    My first thought was that it was very bold to go after such a relatively new piece, but having used both the TR-8 and the TR-8S extensively I agreed with every single point you made.

  • @Synthsound
    @Synthsound 2 місяці тому

    Wie immer: ein sehr cooles Video! Danke dafür 🙂 Zur TR-8: Der Grundsatz "Weniger ist mehr" gilt hier für mich persönlich absolut. Rasch viel liefern ohne stundenlanges Nachlesen im Handbuch, kein Menu-Diving wie bei der TR-8S. Ich habe meine erste TR-8 verkauft, weil ich mir eine TR-8s gekauft habe. Ich wurde aber nie glücklich damit und habe meinen Entscheid, die TR-8 wegzugeben, zu tiefst bereut.

  • @null_state
    @null_state 2 роки тому +2

    Great video, as always. The TR8 as the Borg, what a beautiful way to start the episode! Resistance is Futile.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Resistance is GROOVY!!!

    • @null_state
      @null_state 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz I am Locutus of Borg, and I am here... to DANCE *Borg Techno Intensifies*

  • @n.l.j
    @n.l.j 2 роки тому +4

    This episode is on another level, props.

  • @fatcheese5534
    @fatcheese5534 2 роки тому +15

    WTAF.... You had the chance but didn't mention the crunch!
    When using delay number 8 put the level all the way up and tweak the time and feedback you get a lovely chruch!
    I'll eat that for beakfast every day! :)
    I love mine! And will never part with it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for posting that!

    • @Claidheambmor
      @Claidheambmor 2 роки тому +2

      The screenshot of the FX modes at 2:10 shows 'delay' number 8 and its bit crushing powers!

    • @MBEG89
      @MBEG89 2 роки тому

      Wow didnt know that, so many hidden functions

  • @callummacdonald9610
    @callummacdonald9610 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the consistently top notch content man!

  • @skywatchernorth
    @skywatchernorth 2 роки тому

    Absolutely right that paid upgrade is some absolute bollocks.
    Loved the show as always Florian!

  • @CEF_LEF
    @CEF_LEF 2 роки тому +3

    The TR8s scatter button is one of my best friends, interesting sounds with a Roland sp404a running through it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yup, great on external sources

  • @DonnDeVoreMusic
    @DonnDeVoreMusic 2 роки тому +14

    I've always enjoyed the green-ness of it. and the sound.

  • @paulbmorgan
    @paulbmorgan 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent point about the new Akai MPC upgrade, I updated mine today and the new synth plugins add so much - the Solina Strings are wonderful...and all for free, well done Akai. My Bass Station II (and Citcuit) despite being long in the tooth is still admirably supported by Novation and their last update effectively turbo charged the synth. Unforgiveable that Roland want over 100usd for some samples which you would expect to have on the machine from the outset; these should at very least be offered to loyal Rolandites at a later date. I have been a Roland fan boy for many years but your excellent diatribes are helping me to see the light, cheers!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Yup, the big name keeps them afloat

  • @187onasimp
    @187onasimp 2 роки тому +2

    I had this first but upgraded to the TR8S...then I sold my TR8S... missed it and brought it again a month later. That says enough right there... it's awesome.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Very immediate machine!

  • @thestinkyweasel6297
    @thestinkyweasel6297 2 роки тому +3

    Another great video, and another FAB Jam! Might I suggest (if you get around to it, I bet you have a LONG list by now) the Roland Verselab MV-1? A true modern conundrum of a groovebox/ drum machine/ DAWless DAW in a confusing and jumbled package? Truly worthy of a Bad Gear breakdown and demo. Thanks for the awesome videos!!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! Great idea!!!

    • @Matt-zp1jn
      @Matt-zp1jn 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes! This would be a great video on the MV-1 ‘s shortcomings, plus all its Versatility! 😊

  • @JonasHamill
    @JonasHamill 2 роки тому +20

    Having to pay £100 extra just for the 606 and 707 samples is definitely my biggest gripe with this unit. Just needless

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +7

      Set the 707 free!!!

    • @zaksimmons6848
      @zaksimmons6848 2 роки тому +2

      I think 606 is free with firmware update, and 707 includes 727.

    • @muzikman2008
      @muzikman2008 2 роки тому +1

      @@zaksimmons6848 correct. I bought the 7x7 upgrade and got the 606 free 👍

    • @muzikman2008
      @muzikman2008 2 роки тому +2

      I was expecting more drum machine updates like the CR78 but it never arrived.. They brought out the TR8S instead. Not bought any roland gear since, felt cheated and robbed lol.

    • @2point7182818284590
      @2point7182818284590 2 роки тому

      They are not only samples, though. But of course it's WAY too expensive.

  • @AH-wt7zu
    @AH-wt7zu 2 роки тому

    Always a pleasure, great work once again

  • @anthonycotham4346
    @anthonycotham4346 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi! I recently downloaded the 7x7 pack. and while I had never played with 707 sounds before I may never stop. Definitely worth the upgrade. Also I got the tr-8 because of this video. Same with your other videos for the little Yamaha sampler and the tb-3. Overall the three make an unassuming, affordable and fun rig. Thank you Mr. BadGear. Xoxo

  • @ultralife73
    @ultralife73 2 роки тому +46

    Sequencing this thing with an external sequencer like the Beatstep Pro over midi wil REALLY give it more depth. Also: Get a second hand one with the upgrades for 707, 727 and 606 included. They are about 300 bucks. Great value for money. I love this thing. It sounds amazing, Roland's ACB absolutely nails the sounds of their own classic drum machines. Fuck all the naysayers! :-)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I'd love to test the 7x7 upgrade!

    • @LousyFacelift
      @LousyFacelift 2 роки тому +8

      The "naysaying" has to do with the fact that Roland obviously felt the need to "improve" on their ACB sound quality in their boutique versions and TR 8S only two years after the TR 8 was released, without offering a way to upgrade to the new standard, despite having marketed the TR 8 as a largely expandable concept. The difference in sound between these versions is hardly noticable, the whole debate is not really about sound quality, it's about Roland raising high expectations in the longevity of the TR 8 and then making a money greedy move by replacing it. They made it look future proof, sold tons of it and then did everything to make it look unattractive and devalue it after only two years. Not cool....

    • @PorchBass
      @PorchBass 2 роки тому

      Until the mk2 with better sound....

    • @ultralife73
      @ultralife73 2 роки тому

      @limelight81 Oh, this thing looks like a turd, totally agree :-)

    • @ultralife73
      @ultralife73 2 роки тому +1

      @@LousyFacelift Ah, ok, yeah, that's a dick move. I can imagine feeling cheated when you paid full retail and two years later the machine was as good as abandoned in favor of the new and shiny, by it's own creator. I have had some discussions with people who think it does not sound good, and not like the originals. But that's probably nitpicking from their side. I think it sounds great. having said that, it's a bargain second-hand for 300 bucks, including the expansions...

  • @XanderEwald
    @XanderEwald 2 роки тому +10

    I never took this thing seriously until I saw it in full effect in a video by Mylarmelodies. Once I realized it's a future classic in (ugly) disguise, I bought one right away. It's really fun and still the most convenient way to add the classic Roland drum sounds to your setup.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +3

      Yup, very powerful performance tool!

    • @N4SixString
      @N4SixString 2 роки тому

      what video is that ?

  • @cyborgmetropolis7652
    @cyborgmetropolis7652 2 роки тому

    ❤️ I always enjoy these uploads! ❤️

  • @hogbowlbeats
    @hogbowlbeats 2 роки тому +1

    I was looking for an 808-style drum machine remake a few months ago, and this was one of them on my "maybe buy" list. Seeing its limitations, I'm glad I stuck with the Behringer RD-8. Great video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Behringer RD-8 is certainly a solid choice!

    • @AnalogDude_
      @AnalogDude_ 2 роки тому +1

      the voice circuits of the tr-808 aren't really complex and pretty much low part count. (easy to clone)
      the TR-909 is a different story, the guy who made these circuits should be considered a hero, did you know the TR-909 kick/bass drum consist of 3 VCO's while the TR-606, TR-808 are only one.

    • @streettrash_sid
      @streettrash_sid 5 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilzwhy don’t you just stick your tongue straight down Uri’s trousers!
      Admit it, you love Behringer!

  • @Frisqo
    @Frisqo 2 роки тому +10

    The TR-8 is already a classic. It accompanied me at many performances. More versatile than you think, love it!

    • @andrewfar2461
      @andrewfar2461 Рік тому

      How you use It in a performance? I want to use It in USB mode, and put effects on It's channels. The problem Is that to use It in multitrack mode you have to use It as audio interface in ableton but i can't mute the dry sound from the drum machine (i hear ableton sounds + effected tr8 + TR8 DRY SOUND). How can i mute the dry sound, i don't want to use another audio interface because in that way i can't put different effects on every single Channel. Glad if you can help me

    • @Frisqo
      @Frisqo Рік тому

      @@andrewfar2461 I just use the stereo out from the TR-8. If you want multitrack, you can work around with the assignable outs

  • @sennstrato7281
    @sennstrato7281 2 роки тому +5

    I use my tr8 all the time. It's fun!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Agreed, super fun modern drum machine

  • @scottcupp8129
    @scottcupp8129 2 роки тому +2

    This is a great instrument :) Very nice, programmable, and sound manipulation. I may look in to this one:) Great video my friend

  • @Droid_Behaviour
    @Droid_Behaviour 4 місяці тому +1

    Bought the TR8 Aira some months ago, for 180 euros, in pristine condition.
    I have a real TR909 to compare, and honestly, i can't tell the difference...
    I love these faders, the interated effects, the TR8 is SIMPLE, and it works.
    At the time, when they released it, a TR8 Aira for 500 euros was not cheap and isn't worht the price, too expensive.
    But nowadays, used condition, perfect, the weight is nice, external quality too, it's like a Swiss knife for me, i take it with my TR707 in all my Techno Livesets, and the TR8 never let me down.
    The TR8S is more advanced, but too complicated, too many presets and functions inside, it's more a groovebox than a DrumMachine...
    So if you like the simplicity of the TR Serie, buy a TR8 Aira ;)
    Great content and video, as usual!
    Greetings from France

  • @evantraasdahl4040
    @evantraasdahl4040 2 роки тому +10

    Hey love the show, I'd love to see an episode on the Yamaha QY70 as I feel it fits the general vibe of the show well. If you cant find one hit me up and I'll send you mine. Happy friday guy, thanks for the video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +7

      Great suggestion, thanks! QYs are on the list for much too long!

  • @vroenis
    @vroenis 2 роки тому +5

    omg that Rebirth screenshot 😆😆
    Minidisc! Ticking all the nostalgia boxes!
    OK early 00’s corporate video music & stock footage is a step too far, I’m having flashbacks (good job 😆)

  • @hellotherethisiskiminsung
    @hellotherethisiskiminsung 2 роки тому +2

    Well, I've seen it a lot of times, but it really is magnificent... Those lights, the control... M8 it makes me wanna buy it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      The lights can be quite annoying tbh;)

  • @anx1
    @anx1 2 роки тому +1

    That jam with the tr8 and blofield and company was damm good I've got an rd8 with the flam thing but you sort of killed it using that scatter👌🔥

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! I really had to practice on the scatter. It's a bit unpredictable

  • @corrosiveabuser
    @corrosiveabuser 2 роки тому +4

    I was wary of the ACB stuff from Roland when first released, having owned many of their classic pieces over the years, like many others I was hoping for some real analogue units, - but once I tried the little TR-08 Boutique, around the summer of 2018, I was really surprised. I now have 5 of the boutiques, the SH-01A, Ju-06A, TR-08, TR-06, TB-03 a TR-8s, System-8 and only recently managed to get hold of an immaculate secondhand TR-8 +expansions. With superb secondhand examples going for as cheap as £200, I couldn't resist buying the 8, - although I think I paid around £350, just to get an immaculate, as new, example...

  • @low_rise5030
    @low_rise5030 2 роки тому +5

    "bald claim" - LMAO!! :D :D
    wether it was intentional or not - made my day!

  • @oldunclemick
    @oldunclemick 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. I'll be keeping my eye out for one of these if it's a bargain and already has the downloads.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Prices are OK ATM!!!

  • @SamGrooveTV
    @SamGrooveTV 2 місяці тому +2

    Patiently waiting for an episode on the TR-8S

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 місяці тому

      Great suggestion, thanks!!!

  • @snowleopard9749
    @snowleopard9749 2 роки тому +3

    Sometimes I get worried that you're going to run out of Bad Gear to review, but then I realised that won't be a problem while Roland is still in business!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Roland keeps this channel going!

  • @synthlord2368
    @synthlord2368 2 роки тому +11

    Another review on a piece of gear I own.

  • @patrickg.259
    @patrickg.259 2 роки тому

    Nice! Just received my TR-8S today and was thinking the TR-8 might be a worthy contender for your show…. et voilà! Well done!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Always on time!

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee 2 роки тому +1

    The last jam had such a wholesome and optimistic stock music video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      🧘🏻‍♀️ 🧘🏻 🧘🏻‍♂️

  • @DrJ3RK8
    @DrJ3RK8 2 роки тому +4

    I'm a big fan of both TR-8 and TR-8S. I actually like using the original TR-8 better live, and the TR-8S better to do more intricately programmed things. Both sound excellent. I was surprised by how much I liked them.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Roland certainly got the sound right on these

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee 2 роки тому +11

    Finally discussing a machine I have
    Actually not bad gear 😋

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      You know the drill: one man's Bad Gear;)

    • @abstractmodule4574
      @abstractmodule4574 2 роки тому

      Welcome to my world. They got me with the MicroKorg episode. Lol

    • @TheOriginalEUrban
      @TheOriginalEUrban 2 роки тому +2

      MicroKorg ES2 user here. I consider it a badge of honor to see my toys on this series.

  • @KUSHGRAM
    @KUSHGRAM 2 роки тому

    Love the TR8, for sure a bargain in the second hand market if you look at your first Drum machine. Love also your verdict , you’re totally right!
    Nicely done as usual!

  • @lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545
    @lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545 2 роки тому +2

    Your videos, as well as your musical demonstrations are still as cult !!!
    Danke, dass du mich zum Träumen bringen musst, mein Freund. 👍

  • @framzoid
    @framzoid 2 роки тому +38

    It's a very "in demand" unit these days. It's pluses outweigh it's minuses and I ALWAYS thought it's 808 and 909 emulations were dead on.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +10

      Really like the sounds too!

    • @jimmywheelo
      @jimmywheelo 2 роки тому +1

      coupled with the full midi implementation it's a must have for X0X heads. Sequenced from the DAW it is hard to beat

  • @mitchelviolins210
    @mitchelviolins210 Рік тому +3

    The 707 is my most used kit on this. Also the 909 kick through distortion gets wild.

  • @TheRemixGeneration
    @TheRemixGeneration 2 роки тому +1

    I am here! and at the first glance this video is great!

  • @syntxtre
    @syntxtre 2 роки тому +1

    TR8 is a great drum machine. No parameter locking but did offer complete MIDI CC control over all the parameters including scatter depth and pattern selection tuning and decay for all instruments.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      That's the good thing about the midi implementation of the TR-8;)

  • @vladv5126
    @vladv5126 2 роки тому +12

    ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop, I'm the scatter man

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +4

      Hit record material;)

    • @axidhaus
      @axidhaus 2 роки тому

      SchizZzz going everywhere

  • @Plexyglazz
    @Plexyglazz 2 роки тому +17

    The stock footage video was a very disturbing match to your Royalty Free Music Tracks From Only One Dollar Downtempo AF Orchestral Glo-Fi Ballad.
    I definitely need a drink to recover from that!

  • @futureworldmachines4407
    @futureworldmachines4407 2 роки тому

    I had my TR-8 for sale on reverb until I saw this, I'm keeping it now, thanks for making me sense!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Happy to hear that! Fun machine for jamming!

  • @Gmartin4049
    @Gmartin4049 2 роки тому

    Brilliant. love the montage! well done dude. HA

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 Рік тому +3

    As an older drummer who is mainly into EDM music I have to say I find it kind of odd how much old school electronic drum sounds still permeate most, if not all, dance music even now in 2022 some 40 years after the 808. The sounds in something like the TR-8 are barely any different from what I have in my old MC-307 Groovebox. So I have to wonder is it the fact that most EDM music makers are not actually drummers with a kit to record so this is just what they use and are used to and or is it mostly a European thing? For example, you'll find USA west coast bass music, neurofunk, future funk, etc, using a lot different and more modern, more realistic full drum sounds and samples (via DAW) and not any "OG" sounding machines like this which seem to still permeate hiphop, house, and techno. I definitely enjoy both styles but am also very surprised by how much the vintage drum machine sounds have stayed around, as again they are not that much different than their original counter-parts. Lastly, I've yet to hear any modern drum machine, synth based or sample based, including Roland drum pads like the SPD-SX or SPD-30 have any sort of modern, fuller, drum sounds. I'm 50 btw, and after a 20 year hiatus am diving back into playing as a DJ-Drummer. My IG is HydBtr.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому +2

      808s are classic sounds like a Stratocaster through a Marshall. It just works.

    • @oldowl4290
      @oldowl4290 Рік тому

      @@AudioPilz Yes, it does but also consider that it “just works” mainly because that’s all you’ve heard for 40 years. We’ve all been conditioned to it. I’m heavily exploring new sounds with grit, dirt, glitch, detuned, gated, etc. I’ve never used drum machines much because I’ve always had real kits and also don’t really like pure electronic drum kits either. I like using triggers. I’ll be showcasing what I mean very soon. Also check out Sunhouse triggers. It’s a whole new world.

  • @jacobtaves8471
    @jacobtaves8471 2 роки тому +3

    Love the show, still want you to track down a zoom street box drum machine!

    • @kingcobra124
      @kingcobra124 2 роки тому

      Hell yeah, I just got a RT-123 RhythmTrax. It would be sick to see it on here!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the suggestion! I still have to find enough hate for it;)

  • @andrewstanworth529
    @andrewstanworth529 Рік тому +1

    The TR8 is a wonderful piece of gear! It's so unroland like when it comes to the workflow! It just works!! Very Well! Shocked 😮! And pleased!

  • @RobertDorschel
    @RobertDorschel 2 роки тому

    I want to point out that 1) I have the TR8 + 7x7 expansion; 2) I watched this video on my studio setup with Yamaha HS8 + HS8S sub and cranked it boom chika boom; and 3) my TR8 is now off the shelf and back to being played with. Thank you for relighting the fire here, Florian

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Always a pleasure, thanks!

  • @issahumps
    @issahumps Рік тому +5

    Got a tr-8s but I always come crawling back to the tr-8 😂. Very easy to just get into making drum loops. The tr-8s just feels overly complicated. I’m still a noob after a few years so maybe it’s me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому +1

      TR-8 is a modern classic!

  • @mutantdisco87
    @mutantdisco87 2 роки тому +18

    I laugh a lot with "What did they mess up this time"... Ah Roland... They were good 35 years ago...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +7

      Make Roland great again;)

  • @vazfinestdjchozin1599
    @vazfinestdjchozin1599 2 роки тому

    i CAN SEE WHY YOUR CHANNEL IS SO POPULAR. Thanks for the review.

  • @AngelusNielson
    @AngelusNielson Рік тому +1

    This channel wouldn't be half as great without your accent. Good stuff.

  • @annee1272
    @annee1272 2 роки тому +4

    7:27 hahaha you nailed it with the "inspirational" corporate videos lmao

  • @blimolhm2790
    @blimolhm2790 2 роки тому +4

    Behringer is waking up Roland to create new unique instruments, one classic at a time.. thankfully The Matrix colour scheme didn't lure me into grabbing one of these. My volca drum still keeps me very happy to this day as a percussion/tone generator.
    You look so futuristic in a turtle neck

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Turtle neck & chain!!! ;)

    • @187onasimp
      @187onasimp 2 роки тому +1

      lol, Behringer isn't doing anything but rummaging around in Roland's closet. Roland has always innovated their products they never look back it's why they haven't gone back to analog but instead perfect technology to make a more efficient version of it with ACB tech. The TR8 was impressive as it had everything you could want from an 808 but when they made the TR8S they pretty much gave you all of Rolands best offerings in one box that covers it all.

    • @smts0243
      @smts0243 2 роки тому +2

      @@187onasimp calling a company innovative for doing nothing much for the past 25 years but putting samples of their glorious past into yet another plastic box, may be a bit bold. It's like a news outlet that goes from paper to web in a bid to stay current, but then keeps printing the exact same articles every year. The super saw was the hoarse last breath from a company with more to look back on than to look forward to. I know that's an over the top statement, but it's the comment section of bad gear and all in fun 😀

    • @lumer2b
      @lumer2b 2 роки тому

      @@smts0243 Oh the horror, a company using their own IP in newer products! BTW those are not samples, but emulation of the analog circuits. You can tweak parameters you can’t on sample boxes, and they sound good.

    • @smts0243
      @smts0243 2 роки тому

      @@lumer2b oh the innovation. Totally new sonic experiences 😁

  • @ballpowermdk
    @ballpowermdk 2 роки тому

    That little scatter jam in the middle is one of your best yet

  • @kassemir
    @kassemir 2 роки тому +1

    that footage of a guy putting a white square in a frame up next to a photo of you on a white wall - love it :D

  • @cooloutbeats
    @cooloutbeats 2 роки тому +21

    I'll admit the 707 expansion is a bit pricey. However, it's worth noting that the Roland ACB tech isn't samples...even on sampled based units like the 707/727, Roland also modeled the non-pristine converters and signal path of the original units.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +5

      True, but the samples are still samples (just like the few sample-based voices of the 808/909 kits) - they certainly emulate the post-digital signal path of them

    • @cooloutbeats
      @cooloutbeats 2 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz Perhaps there's some additional audio voodoo going on like crosstalk or aliasing...or just to offset R&D costs, it's built into the bottom line of the product to charge for the expansion since the TR8 doesn't import samples at all.
      Charging extra for little add-ons is common in software but still hardware manufacturers do this occasionally, like how Waldorf charges $100 just to enable a pitiful 60mb of sample loading into the Blofeld.

    • @cadra400
      @cadra400 2 роки тому +3

      it seems they also modeled the phasing effect you get when playing snare and clap simultaneously, like on the TR-909 (where both circuits used the same noise source). apparently some people found that "annoying", but that's actually a very neat touch on roland's part.

  • @gordon2402
    @gordon2402 2 роки тому +13

    Auch wenn acid ziemlich einfach zu programmieren ist ( wenn man es als erfahrener Musiker mal genau nimmt)
    Aber du schüttelts mal wirklich paar coole lines hin . 👍🏻🎹🎶

  • @franciscojaviergomez4807
    @franciscojaviergomez4807 2 роки тому +2

    TR-8 is the best live performance and studio drum machine available. so versatile. It is the center piece of my live performance and studio recording tool.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Great for live performance! Really love the faders!

  • @artvandelay3282
    @artvandelay3282 2 роки тому +2

    I love my tr8. Bit upset about paying so much for 707/727/606 sounds but i end up using them way more than i thought. Pattern memory sucks but i still love it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yeah, it's like a modern take on an oldschool drum machine

  • @fisk0
    @fisk0 2 роки тому +4

    I like the TR8, but it definitely felt a little sour when they made a TR8S instead of making more updates for the TR8 firmware. The 7X7 upgrade was only discounted once too, and I missed that opportunity and ended up giving them the full price when it sounded like they would take that upgrade off the market (it eventually reappeared on the Roland Cloud for the same price). In the end, I think the TR6S ended up being a good half-step companion for those of us that didn't sell our TR8 when the TR8S came around, and I'm pretty happy with my decision.
    You can get two bars out of it by holding both the A and B button simultaneously by the way, will play both the A and B parts in sequence.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the clarification!

    • @citruesilver
      @citruesilver 2 роки тому

      Yeah, my feelings exactly. I was lucky to get the tr8 with the expansions 2nd hand but after the release of the tr8s I sold it and never looked back. I bought the mc101 and tr6s recently and that duo ticks all my traveling boxes 👍

  • @goo9637
    @goo9637 2 роки тому +4

    The first drum machine that implements paid downloable content.... Roland always one step ahead !

  • @Yuzuki1337
    @Yuzuki1337 2 роки тому +2

    I'll take "Things I did not expect to see here" for 500! :D Thanks for the episode as always and have a nice weekend! ❤️

  • @laurijuhaniuomala
    @laurijuhaniuomala 2 роки тому

    Hey AudioPilz, love your videos. Would really want to see one about the Yamaha Rm1x groovebox. Can't find any "in-depth" videos on it. Keep up the awesome work! ;)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! RM1x is on my list!

    • @laurijuhaniuomala
      @laurijuhaniuomala 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz Awesome! Can't wait. Also Yamaha AN200 and DX200 might be worth "Bad Gear"-overview. I've got an old Rm1x and an AN200 that might work. PM me if interested....

  • @bakihanma644
    @bakihanma644 2 роки тому +7

    I love mine. I'm not into the scene so I don't care about all the complaining.

    • @dr34mw34v3r
      @dr34mw34v3r 2 роки тому

      Now the seed is planted. It will never be the same sorry

    • @bakihanma644
      @bakihanma644 2 роки тому

      @@dr34mw34v3r LOL. Weakkkkkk

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Fair enough

  • @marcelfrehse
    @marcelfrehse 2 роки тому +3

    ahhh my fridaily dosis of gear pr0n.

  • @jazzseba
    @jazzseba 2 роки тому

    I'm a simple musician! I see bad Gear video release, I watch it! Thanks!!!

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego 2 роки тому +2

    That is the best drum machine I ever had. 29 tracks later. It was sold so I can now use a sampler, MPCX. I was going for Mc707 or TR8s but went with a true sampler. That acb is legit

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      True, ACB is pretty spot on

  • @cthallborgtheineffable5583
    @cthallborgtheineffable5583 2 роки тому +3

    Yes

  • @cooptrol
    @cooptrol 2 роки тому +10

    I never went so low to buy this, especially considering it's original retail price, an absurd amount of money for a digital TR wannabe drum synth. Just got the MC-101, it's fine, but I'm not so convinced yet by 21st century Roland, especially regarding their costly Zenology patch editor. They keep on with this stupid charge-for-add-on-software policy. Why is Elektron so hard to copy? I just don't get R&D teams in this industry.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      I don't think it's the R&D people's fault...

    • @cooptrol
      @cooptrol 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz I agree some decisions have to do with commercial strategies, but also some implementation aspects are purely lack of live electronic playing experience, and also this idea of launching products that aren't fully finished yet to make R&D cheaper and more effective using free community intelligence, although sometimes you wonder what kind of people is sending their opinions...

  • @audreyazwell
    @audreyazwell 2 роки тому +2

    oh man for a second I thought you were doing the TR 8s lol I'm like "wait isn't that a fairly universally loved drum machine?!" lol I know next to nothing about the previous model so I can't wait to dig in!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      That one is really nice but - well - not perfect;)

  • @michaelcaprarola6716
    @michaelcaprarola6716 Рік тому

    Every time I find some gear I think is cool I find a bad gear vid on it