The Manosphere to Alt-Right Pipeline (we should all be talking about this)
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Regarding the red and blue pills conservatives have made full circle and become woke
Chose woke people not ïńćëst which is the word I'll use to describe an American flavor of rithg wing collectivism aka fachsim aka bundle of pencil ïñbrèdnēkcs
Thank you 💪🇺🇸❤🇨🇦💪
#solidarity 🗽✌
Hey everyone - #Breaking #News On 9/11 this creep Pierre Poilievre just hijacked the PA system on a westjet flight to calgary!!
Did the Westjet CEO , PRE-APPROVE the speech of this disgusting politician?? Why is this not considered a safety breach?? If Mr.#SHACK made the same speech on our flight, there would have been a Brawl!!
Now, I know alot of dads who would want the same privileges to wish their kids HAPPY BIRTHDAY on a PA System!!
Is westjet going to sell tickets with THAT privilidge NOW!! Or is this ONLY for billionaire politicians!! 🤮🤮🤮
Just this WEEK the #bully #peepee attacked the #women in the UNION who called out his Illegal Mid-Air stunt on 9/11..The ladies need our help & #Solidarity in calgary 😪🙏🏽✌
Leeja, a well-put-together video, presentation, and content;
i am not part of any political party, and i have never voted; why?
because i look at things from a spiritual perspective, and neither side is righteous; that's what jumped out at me when i listened to your overall presentation, i.e., a spiritual perspective;
the video brings to mind that when mankind moves away from its Creator's precepts, concepts, and principles ... bad things happen; … the Adversary knows this all too well, and said Adversary has been using the same approach over and over again throughout history; this is why we see the outcome of what's happening because history has already taught us that we are going through the fallen-Rome phase right now; Rome fell from WITHIN before it was overtaken by the Barbarians with little resistance; … part of what is happening now happened then; lifestyles were incongruent with the Creator's will and intent, just like it was when Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt up for their sexual immorality; the Western world due to the Western thought will be paying a similar price, and the apparatuses to do that from a governmental standpoint, most of it is already in place;
and the issues of men against women and women against men have also been part of history; when women got on top, were ruling, and what happened?
every last Queendom fell harshly and rather quickly; why?
because said governmental construct was never intended from the beginning;
the harsh Marxist thought--and its softer offsprings, i.e., Socialism in its various forms, which includes the United States since 1933--that are going throughout the world intentionally creates division, and said governmental entities have NEVER worked to the benefit of the people, but for the few that the Adversary controls; the people become slaves or indentured servants; they are not free;
i know many people in this day and age do not believe in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611), and that's ok, but those that do read with understanding can see that the Book of Revelation is jumping off the pages IN THIS generation; accordingly, what we are witnessing from around the world has been predicted; if what is expected is seen, should we not take the most earnest heed of what's been predicted to come and get your houses in order? Yes, for eternity is at stake, and these issues of the day are minor in comparison to what is taking place and what is rapidly forthcoming;
peace be with you ...
On behalf of men I thank you for this fantastic video
This rapid increase in social isolation is a recent issue, affecting both men and women, but we've always had the patriarchy (which here seems more like a vague, evil force than an explanation). It's affecting women more slowly, so I would rather suggest that socialisation and gender roles make one group more vulnerable than the other, but the deeper issue is something else.
Such as every activity now being done remotely or online - even from a young age - and the lack of public spaces suitable for making friends. Or the cost of living relative to wages rising to such a degree that people simply don't have time to do anything but work, even when they aren't _at work._ It's not just men being taught to be a certain way, because you could argue that's less of a factor now than it has ever been.
Men are first becoming lonely, then going down the pipeline, not the other way around. It's just that the marketing for the alt right tends to be more focused toward men, but lonely women go unnoticed, even though there are toxic movements springing up to attract them as well.
Your solution of 'Hey, lonely dudes, be more social' while a nice suggestion, will fall flat with anyone in that position, and is as much of a bandaid as anything else. It does not address the underlying cause, merely adds some resistance.
Usually, the guys who have to announce "I'm amazing to women" are the worst toward women.
Yeah just like parents that have to say that they are great parents usually are terrible ones.
When i say "I am a nice guy" I dont just mean i am a *nice* guy i also mean that i am not only woke, but frankly, a hero.
typical “nice guys”
That's right up there with "I'm a nice guy" or 'I'm an Alpha Male!" YIKES
It’s so scary, isn’t it? I really just can’t comprehend it. They really don’t think of us as human being and that alone shows it.
My beloved sister died a few months ago. Her husband, my bother-in-law, was heartbroken. What pleased me was that her husband's male friends were instantly on the job to help support him. It wasn't just me and his mother and sister and female friends but his male friends as well. So, things aren't hopeless.
That's good to hear.
They never were. Men have formed tribes and teams since the beginning of civilization. She's inventing a crisis.
Society has gone so far to outright praise men when they help those around them which should be expected as normal quite frankly. We need to stop villainizing men.
This video is hyperbolic nonsense, men are not a monolith and definitely not this ladies insane idea of what men are like.
As a man whose one of 5 brothers, I'm consistently wanting to get therapy, to normalize getting help in my family and to stop stewing in it with prayer. I'm one of the younger brothers, and am currently in college, so going about this process feels daunting, but it won't happen unless I do this first. I know my family
It's made a huge difference in my life.
The first step of even finding a therapist is incredibly daunting. And the first couple sessions can be nerve racking, but it is so worth it. I am the only one in my family who has been consistently in therapy for over a decade. I was actually mocked as a teenager with some pretty detrimental mental health issues that almost cost me my life when I asked my parents to take me to therapy. My attendance has not changed their mind on attending but at this point, I have been able to accept that and register their ill behaviors without it tearing me apart like it used to. Ironically my outside family members say I’m the most put together and emotionally mature despite the mocking I get for attending therapy.
I really hope you find peace in all areas you desire from beginning therapy. It does take time. And it took 3 different therapists to find one that changed my life for 5+ years, but I promise it is worth it ❤
Keep going. I'm rooting for you and your brothers. Your lives will be much better and you will feel supported.
You will attract a better suited partner that you can grow with. Therapy combined with self improvement really can change your life.
Good luck. 😊 ❤️
Getting good therapy is less about someone providing solutions for you and more about teaching you to habitually consider different ways of looking at yourself and your problems.
That can make you stronger so you can change your life.
You can't change your family. I am female, the youngest sibling in a rigid family. You can value shared history and try to understand your family, but forget asking them to change. Put your energy into living well in your own life. And never ever forget that making friends, making healthy connections in your community is an investment in your own well being.
@@communitygardener17 I don't want to provide solutions, or for a therapist to. I just want to destigmatize the thing that they know is the answer(they all desire something, and just describe therapy, not answers to their problems).
Also focussing on myself is important to me. I'm only trying to support them by showing my vulnerability to them, help let them know we're in this game of life together
I had a lot of friends, but then I found out the downside of permeable communities.
Permeable communities are groups that center around something that can easily change, such as playing Monopoly.
The downside of these groups is that they 100% depend on you doing the thing for the rest of your life. If you stop doing this thing, you lose your friends.
As an old, white, straight male… I can say it is totally possible to move away from “sad caveman”.
And things are better.
And things make sense.
WKRP! Bought the whole series😁😁 Happy for you & I loved Le cuz he made me laugh and so does my man! Be well!
LES!!!
This is cope.
Confidence, optimism, introspection, patience, and love can really help a hurt soul, I should know, I have major depression.
Took me about a1995 to 2015 in therapy. Worth the wait though.
I was lucky in that I used to volunteer at an animal shelter as a teen. It's kind of hard for the anti-women hate to work on someone that actually spends any amount of time around several great women.
Just remember while more men than ever are respecting women more women that ever are saying men ain't s*** and f men. It's find to be me nice. However just bending over to a group that systemically hates you is the reason boys can now be abused in schools by feminist teachers. It's always women women women.
This is beautiful, thank you
Women who take care of animals get to show people a maternal side that most don't see if they don't have kids. Pets allow us to do that; I personally think it's why women like guys who take good care of their pets. Not only is it responsibility, but you get to see a warmer side of a person who is nominally not going to show that in ANY other circumstance.
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girls were really nice to me in primary school I guess cuz they felt bad for me, like it felt like they were "in" on this whole conspiracy between my parents, doctors and teachers to help me out.
Ironically, I'm a man with no close friends BECAUSE my male friends were a part of the rabbit hole army
It’s honesty heartbreaking to watch your peers devolve into hateful bigots
@@dr.happyfuntimes1214 1. freedom of speech
2.kill prisoners
3.bodly autonomy
4.gender equality
5.no funds to able people who refuse to work
6.organ transplant after death national law
7.religon and philosophy keep to themselves
Five years ago all my friends were married with kids, I was single and dating. My friends resented me for it.
Now all my friends are divorced, single and not dating. I’m in a relationship.
They still resent me. I don’t even hear from them anymore.
Thanks a lot, internet.
Women created them@@dr.happyfuntimes1214
@@kermitthehermit9588funny how that worked eh? You will notice in life that every man that got tricked and signed his name on a death certificate I mean marriage contract hates ever man that never got married?
The structure of our society also plays a large factor. For most of human history we lived in tight-knit tribes, and later small villages, where interacting with people was just part of daily life and survival. Now all we have are workplaces that often aren't particularly conducive to meaningful relationships.
When I spent time at a mental health facility for a few months, it made me see what a small communal setting was really like. We all lived together, going to classes, doing activities, having deep talks about our issues - you get to know everyone. You becomes friends with people really easily, because you're around them a lot and you have aspects of day to day life to share and talk about.
As people left the facility, they started a facebook group and planned get togethers. But over time, people talked to each other less and less as we returned to our atomized lives. We didn't live with each other anymore, so having relationships with each other became work instead of being something natural.
There was a report that came out a while back that said that if they raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour it would reduce the suicide rate in America by 12% Its very much the structure of our society but it's also very much the inability for people to actually make our lives function.
I am reminded of the time my sister and I drove 8 hours to take our nieces and nephews to see Frozen 2. When we arrived, my younger niece ran up and hugged me. Her brother (who's a year younger than her) was hesitant to hug me. I decided that wasn't gonna fly, so I scooped him up with my free arm and hugged him. Now, he will race his sister to hug me. Just last week, he tackle hugged me when I showed up.
I'm also reminded of the time I drove the two of them to school about a year ago. My niece was stunned that I told her brother that I love him as well as her. The notion of a man expressing affection for another man was so foreign to her because my brother is an idiot.
Omg this is so cute
@@EmyN My nieces and nephew are indeed adorable 😆.
@@MyPisceanNatureoof better unlearn that with youre nephew. If he starts hugging other women later on he might get arrested.
@@MyPisceanNaturethank you for being good to your brother's kids
I served in the Marine Corp and after Boot Camp, the best advice that my higher ups gave me is "Asking for help is not weakness." We can only do so much as individuals. But only as a team can we do the impossible. Ask for help, don't be afraid, connect to others.
I didn’t learn that until I went to combat in Iraq.
You realize that this simple fact completely contradicts her entire fake narrative? I have had friends who were combat vets, cops, real badasses, and none of them would ever expect anyone to hide their emotions. That's just ridiculous, but it serves her narratives.
Must have been recently, asking for help was seen as being a shitbag when I was in.
@@kosan181 The guys who were the real deal were some of the most emotionally evolved humans I've ever met. One in particular lost friends from his squadron in a firefight in Afghanistan, and could bench-press an insane amount of weight, but dearly, publicly loved his wife like crazy, and would do ridiculous shit like show up at the gym in an elf costume on Christmas.
@@leobigelow7021yeah. She did characterize masculinity but what do you expect, she's a feminine woman who only researched for the video script unless she had her team do that. She's no expert on masculinity, old school masculinity is based and pretty timeless and flexible, Tate and Peterson are not that. Could you imagine people as emotionally unstable as them trying to convince Marcus Aurelius, Plato or Socrates to buy their online stoicism course? 🤣 it's COMICAL. that needs to be a comedy sketch.
I think that content creators making videos like this helps raise awareness about the stigma men hold against mental wellness. FD Signifier is another content creator that espouses the importance of male introspection and getting help. Thank you.
FD is doing some good work trying to get the Left to really engage with this with some more understanding.
I don't always agree but he's putting time and effort into it.
@@miguelvelez7221Yes, the reason why Right wing Ideology has taken over so many other young men, is because the Left hasn't really been addressing these issues properly. I'm glad that they're doing it now.
@@Steve-yn3cs Dude, men don't really have issues, at least any worth addressing.
@@NoMoreSuperHero Uh.... But we do. Anyway, I wanna hear why you think otherwise.
@@Steve-yn3cs No we don't dude, we're peak privilege.
As a man of 74 years (OLD), you are OK and truth is a bitch! In my life all kinds of women, What woman can do better, we all have mothers who train us and MONSTERS have mothers. Mothers stop us all from eating dirt or harming ourselves as babies. I'm a man who learned a lot from my mother and family, people can do better!
Ten years ago a friend of my from High School died by suicide. It was a real wake up call for me and my friend group. Checking on each other is important you never know when it will be your last chance to do so.
I had a war-buddy of mine do the same thing when we returned home. He came come to an empty bank account, divorce papers, and a baby that wasn't his.
If most of the viewers are male, let me share this: My partner is a Boomer male and he and his old buds talk on the phone and check in way more than I have ever talked on the phone with my friends. These are working class and crass guys guys. Trust me, healthy male friendships actually care about each other.
Those men are also extroverts. I think that's a big part being missed here. We see all over social media memes about introversion and social anxiety. And it's always accepted by women. That isn't a woman thing, though. Men go through the same thing. For introverted men, just as with introverted women, you have anxiety problems and exhausted from talking to people, etc. I really feel like the introversion of men is really being ignored in this video and when anybody talks about this subject. The whole idea expressed at the end of this video "well just go talk to some people and everything will be ok!" is like telling depressed people "just stop being sad and everything will be ok!"
@@websurvivor As one of the early discoverers of social anxiety way back in the late 90s, I can attest that, sadly, getting out and exposing yourself to socializing is the only remedy. However, that is usually a few steps down the line. Many need help (I certainly did) in figuring out how to start down the path. It can get better but never goes away. A more specific diagnosis of Avoidant Personality Disorder also helped me a great deal in understanding my specific needs.
@@TimothyCHenderson Maybe that works for some, but I absolutely assure you that it doesn't work for all. I would be surprised if it works for most, even.
How does that help a guy get a gf
It´s always good to listen to a non toxic woman, especially of course - being a man - when she praise her husband. Being there for your friends is worth more than a million of empty phrases, which is what the woman in the video tries to sell as superior. Sisterhood only exists in good times, in crisis it tends to crumble, don´t you think? While the bond between men only gets stronger the tougher it gets.
Part of this conversation has to be how best to make therapy work with men's schedules. My husband is so worried about running out of sick leave or paid time then not having a day when he needs one for an emergency or management saying no you can't use pto on that day. There are a lot of guys that are in situations where the need to earn money and take care of their families collides with self care. In this rat race they understandably go with not interfereing with their employment by being off too much or being discrimnated againt in subtle ways for having to tell their workplace why they need off. This is a large part of the reason guys don't go to the doctor until they are unable to meet their obligations and often need to go the hospital not an office.
This is a problem for ANYONE who has to work for a living. Employers continue to cheerfully suck people dry, chew up their personal lives, then spit them out, broken and isolated, then blame them for their condition, or ascribe it to “bad luck”… or claim they’re making it up and malingering… 🤦♀️
Your husband is making excuses and I say this as somebody who is still actively harboring anti-therapy beliefs that I need to work on. He can find the time
That makes, but unfortunately it might be logistical issues building into anxiety symptoms. I’m not sure what might help. I (nonbinary, 30s, had loads of therapy before) didn’t fully commit to getting help this time until after I lost my job / contract wasn’t renewed after long covid and gallbladder removal surgery.
Sometimes you genuinely just don’t have time. And sometimes life shuts you down until you have nothing but time.
Therapy doesn't work on men
@@VijayThakurMD obvious troll, but
just in case you’re serious:
men are people too. Different people respond best to different therapy modalities and therapists themselves.
If you’re speaking from experience, I understand and empathise. It is very tedious searching for something to help, only to be out of pocket and no healthier. I recommend browsing possible options in your area, discussing your concerns with your local crisis team or health and social care team, and trying to read up on self-care strategies you find relevant.
Thank you for doing this 🙂. As a single father of a young boy, it's important for him to know that females are not the problem. We need to work on ourselves, on becoming better human beings, better partners. Take responsibility for our actions. You rock!
You can be an absolutely fantastic partner, and still get dumped on by women. It's how they're built.
Encourage him to build himself physically and mentally. Mma fighting does help one in disciplining the body. Mentally it would help him to read books such as The Bible and Art of War
As a man, who dabbled into these communities, I should say that these anti-women, society-cursing mentalities, communities, and habits do more harm than good to men. Question or reject any ideology that is making you hate or provokes feeling of resentment to yourself’s or someone else’s existence. It’s not masculinity or “manhood” to feel entitled to a female’s body. It’s a shame.
Absolutely - I lost my kids because of family courts that are unjust. Later as a law student I tried to look up "equal parenting" and "children's rights to both parents" and such things and could hardly find anything but white hot hate so I realized you can't really look or get involved in that issue online at this time. Fortunately, change in all the right places is coming even though valid issues of true equity often face erasure due to radicalism.
I do as well and I can say I understand the frustration because I've had trouble growing up where I was in the victim seat. I had girl through text tell me she was going to say I raped her because I found out she had a boyfriend I found out about and told him that we had hung out multiple times and hooked up before find out and I felt like crap and I've kept that phone with text because that scared me a lot. Then I've had ex's threaten to say I abused them because I didn't want to be in a relationship with them anymore, I've had ex's just use me as entertainment when I was taking the relationship seriously. But instead of diving into all women I understand there are just horrible people.
Funnily, this is exactly why men are not interested in left-leaning politics and go down this pipeline. The message to boys and men for the past 30 years from the left is that men are bad, wrong, and evil.
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@@HickYankeeExactly. That is part of the frustration, these manosphere people are grifting on real issues.
Mens mental health, a real issue, divorce court bias, a real issue, isolation, a real issue.
They bury any real support under a mountain of scams and angry incel weirdness.
As a man I have a therapist and I definitely know my life has gotten better. My ability to share my feelings has grown and so has dealing with others feelings.
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This video never answered the question of why men where isolated in the first place. Shouldn't we acknowledge the fact that male spaces were invaded and eliminated?
we; yes!
Feminist have a moment of self actualization and accountability ? never in a 1 000 000 years
like when? examples
@@UsurperUrsus Women joining boy scouts for example.
@@UsurperUrsuswomen shelters are literally everywhere. Where are the men shelters? Nowhere. 3/4 homeless people are men. But it’s all men’s fault because men are inherently bad.
In my opinion, social media is undeniably to blame. How did people meet before? Have a conversation. Walk holding hands, etc.
"Now, hey, before we go out, we have to talk online for months 🙃 "
That's the biggest problem with social media. It gives people a false sense of social connection. It also gives people a false sense of power and identity. On the internet you can be whoever you want. You can create a persona. It's the equivalent of roleplaying a character. and of course the real you is nowhere near as cool as the persona you created on the internet so imagine how that plays out in the real world when you try and meet people. and social media is the reason why clowns like Andrew Tate are famous. Where would this guy be without the internet? Nowhere.
Sm is a big part, but the main enemy and hurt to men is the patriarchy
@@AC-ri2phThis is where Feminism makes no sense. On one hand feminists whine about how the patriarchy is a union for men who collectively benefit from it (ie male privilege), while on the other hand they concern troll men by claiming the patriarchy hurts them too. Say what? Which is it? The best of female logic right there.
@@El-Dorado930 because 1) patriarchy doesn't exist and 2) feminism only concern men to help women : feminism is a movement to help women not men.
@@InitialDraal That's exactly right. Feminists have ZERO incentive to help men, but require men's labor to keep society going so that their fat assess are fed.
I’m 47, white, been divorced for 5 yrs. My wife cheated on me so I ended our marriage and have been single since raising my two daughters who are now in college. I can say it’s easily been a decade now that someone, not my kids, say they love me or offer emotional support. As a man we are taught to be strong and to not expect support, but that has honestly damaged me. I find myself now spending all my time alone and feeling exhausted from the lack of love in my life. If it weren’t for the occasional hugs from my kids I’d be in a dark place. If you have men in your life, check in on them, they likely aren’t okay.
I'm sorry, but as a fellow man who's considerably older than you are, this is completely your fault. Friendships take work, beginning from you, and framing yourself as the victim both disempowers you and puts responsibility on some vague social issue or institution for your personal situation. If you're spending all your time alone, that's on you.
You've got to stop being afraid to express emotion toward people, including fellow men. Once you let the stigmatisation about masculinity and emotions go, you can then broaden your relationships. My friends and I tell each other we love one another and give hugs whenever we feel it appropriate. I'm a gay male, and even with all of my straight friends, I treat them the same as anyone else. We give one another hugs, compliments, expressing our genuine love for one another. Guys at work have actually thanked me for showing them that male connections should be normalized. ❤
Hang in there. Male menopause is coming, and when it does, you won't need all this support anymore.
I'm serious. Trust me.
@bryanmachin3738 well... I've hit the 30+ mark where your balls triple in size, your skins and beard get weird patchy dry spots, and lost the ability to maintain a set weight lol.... I'm right on schedule I guess.
I hear you. Sometimes it’s really hard to form connections and to overcome the condition you have undergone your entire life. I am trying to do this now reaching out to others and expressing vulnerability and it isn’t easy and simple at least not for me so I can appreciate what it feels like to be lonely. I wish more of us could connect more easily
As a 44 year old struggling with this exact issue of dedicating my life to my wife and daughter but not having any friends to talk to, I thank you for making this video.
Hug
You know you can be dedicated to your family and still have your own interests. Try not to isolate yourself. That will also help your little girl in the long run.
The struggle is real. In the suburbs, I often imagined the system like a benzene ring from chemistry: all the women in constant communication, each with one man hanging outside the ring. You can’t talk to the other women; it’s hard to carve out time to spend away from the family, esp. with younger kids. I’d suggest just trying some kind of therapy… to break the social deadlock, in a way that’s “important” enough to justify time spent away. Lots to unpack there. Sorry for the sound bites. But you can walk into a therapist’s office, and say exactly what you just wrote above and ask for help.
@@brentknight9318 "Huggies"... and to all the lonely guys... I can tell you one thing you have one person rooting for you and has always been on your side... I love my guys... my boys... my dudes... my bro... and you know what with the way I've seen women acting lately... I'm not sure you really want a relationship with them in the first place... it's a time for friends right now... not relationships... and we need each other... now more than ever... All you geeky, nerdy, gamer guys and anime bros... hang in there... you're good people... i wish could give you all a big hug and make you all dinner... and then get wasted and play cards against humanity... that would be awesome!!!
Thanks everyone for the comments. I was a professional musician who toured and met tons of people when I was younger. This was back in Canada. I was always surrounded by friends, girlfriends, etc., but now that I moved to the US, had a daughter, and no longer playing music, I feel very lonely, which sounds horrible to say because I have her and my wife. I own a business but I don't get to make friends, and with no family anywhere near, it's pretty hard to be happy. It's been 7 years now that we live here and haven't made a single friend.
At one time, there were not so many right-wingers in Russia, and most even ridiculed conservative people. But now almost everyone is alt-right. Now we cannot talk about feminism or racism at all, so as not to be ridiculed (and this is at best). And now all those who talked about the harm of feminism and emigrants say that the genocide In Ukraine is good. I would not like the same thing to happen in USA.
Russia is a completely different culture, language, political system, history and sensibility. What happens in Russia (which, by the way, is a dictatorship) is completely different than what does or would happen here. Russia is irrelevant to the US.
The list of right wingers in Russia:
Maxim "Tesak" Matrsinkevich (tortured to death in prison in Siberia);
Dmitry "Wagner" Utkin (killed in plane crash by the FSB);
Yegor "Pogrom" Prosvirnin (fell out of a window);
Arsen "Motorola" Pavlov (blown up by the FSB);
Mikhail "Givi" Tolstykh (killed by the FSB);
Alexeily Navalny (killed in prison in Siberia);
Igor Girkin/Strelkov/Runov (in prison);
Nikita Zhuravel (beaten up and humiliated on camera in Chechnya by Adam Kadyrov for burning Quran, currently in prison. Kadyrov received 9 awards for beating him up);
Alexey Milchakov and the Rusich group (forced to fight in Ukraine under the threat of imprisonment and prohibited from criticizing the government);
Denis "White Rex" Nikitin & the Russian volunteer corps (fighting against Russia on the side of Ukraine, recognized by Russia as a terrorist group).
Factors like divorce law and family law, incarceration rates, crime sentencing, loneliness, etc., are real issues that definitely create a sense of resentment in men, which is exacerbated by being told that their issues don’t exist or don’t matter and that the only true victims of society are women. This primes men to be preyed on by the alt-right chicken hawks.
Men need to know that their problems are seen as real, and that constantly hearing accusations about the patriarchy, when they are trying just as much as anyone to make it in life, doesn’t help.
As a millennial Black man, I can say that some of this cycle has to also do with hopelessness. It is harder to date, own a home, have a good-paying job, save up, and have meaningful male relationships than it has been for our fathers or our grandfathers for that matter.
Men will always want to be seen, needed, and appreciated. These are not bad things, but they’re just being fulfilled in awful ways.
Thanks for speaking up about this. Once again, another solid video essay.
You NAILED it!
That's a good point. I'm tempted to dismiss these people as incels and pussies, but it's definitely getting harder for everyone to get by
My grandfather had the same type of job I have. He owned a house and raised a single income family; I'm barely getting by
On top of that white men feel they’re losing “so much more” since they feel “forced” to share space with men of color… which they see as lesser than themselves.
Yep; So solutions she listed- like go to therapy, talk about your problems; don’t solve any of the problems you listed.
And there in lies the problem.
That's where my issue with these communities lies. The idea that the world is so much better for anyone else. The only people benefitting are the rich. Everyone else is expendable
As a male that openly shares my feelings with male friends, and inquires about theirs, it’s always baffling to me just how many of them will think I’m “interrogating” or “belittling” them. Like no homie, I’m just checking on my friend.
I'm glad you try. I think it's probably hard to break the stigma and they don't want to be seen as "weak" but talking about it and showing an interest does help. Even if they act all offended or upset at first, later on when they're alone or feeling bummed, they'll remember you asked and it'll make them think. Normalizing it is just gonna take time.
I share my feelings but most men don’t reciprocate or have anything to say in reply..
I’ve been burned in the past by opening up to someone whom I considered a friend, when he asked about how I was feeling. So, I can kinda understand the hesitation from your friends.
This is a female solution to a male problem.
“Oh, just open up and let your feelings butterfly flutter out to your male friends. They’ll cry with you and let their feelings butterfly out too and then you can cry together and go to the bathroom together and the patriarchy will crumble because everyone will be happy.”
It doesn’t work. It’s not how men work, in general.
Also, this video is blaming it all on men and acting like a victim while complaining about how men shouldn’t blame it all on women and act like a victim. The absurdity of this hypocrisy is absolutely astounding. The fact of the matter is that there is responsibility from both sides.
Red pill losers that blame women in whole are just that. Ultra-feminist losers that blame men are also just that.
When I have an issue, the first place I point is back towards me. What am I doing wrong and how can I adjust my behavior/actions to fix it?
Keep doing the good work. The only way this will change is if more people start doing it and make it natural
Do guys really spend that much time thinking about the opposite sex and dating? The women i know are often too busy with jobs, school, housework, exercising, hobbies, etc. to have time leftover for obsessing over men. Life is way too short to wait on meeting a significant other in order to be happy.
Men are judged partially based on how happy they can make their woman. This is pretty standard. "Happy wife, happy life" amongst other sayings.
@@Pistolita221 However, it doesn't work the other way around. If a woman were to say out loud that her husband's happiness was important to her, she'd be run out of town.
@@leobigelow7021 they concern troll her with "know your worth" and "that's not healthy, you have to take care of you".
Just as women are fed a nothin that their lives are not complete if they are not married with kids, men are told we can’t be happy unless we have a woman in our lives. There’s actually a lot if negative stigma attached to being a celibate man. And if you are lonely and longing for a relationship, you are constantly seeing images across various media dvd platforms of other men happy with their girlfriends or wives (not a lot about arguments, break ups, etc). It feels almost like you are left out, like everyone else gets to have a good time but you don’t, only deepening the sense of loneliness and embitterment. And that’s the blood that brings the sharks of the manosphere swarming.
I hate that these stupid groups have co-opted the red pill metaphor from The Matrix.
The fact that Matrix is, according to one of the creators Lilly Wachowski, a metaphor for being trans and the red pill represents the estrogen pill, admittedly makes it incredibly funny.
@@bellonu That's what they say now, to me it always represented awakening. But it is funny.
Yeah these people ruined The Matrix for me 😢😂
Oh my God, me too.
@@veganrican606 ok, to YOU it always represented awakening, but knowing that most trans woman view their initial transition as a huge awakening and revalation not only on how they view the world, but literally the actual sensory perceptions it is not even slightly out of nowhere to interpret it as trans, especaikly since very early concepts of the movie had characters who literally changed gender depending on whether they were plugged in or not. Ultimately to have it scrapped for a wider audience to more easily insert themselves in the female lead, or atleast lust after her.
I worry about the men in my life so much. My recently divorced brother made close friends in high school, but as the years went by, they grew apart, because it happens. He has made no new friends in the decades since. I call him all the time to ask how he’s doing and drag him out to lunch. I have no idea what else to do. I worry about him every day.
When I read about how so many men are friendless, it broke my heart. Please reach out to the men in your life. Men, reach out to your friends. The world is hard enough without feeling forced to go it alone.
Recently I rekindled a friendship from middle school and it's been great. Perhaps your son would find it helpful to reconnect with an old friend. I've never been through a divorce but I'm sure it's very difficult. I've been through breakups that had me crying like a baby. I worked maintenance for the parks and had to drive somewhere private just so I could cry. Now this isn't my pity party I'm pretty good now. As for your son he may be feeling some deep pain and friends should help with that. I hope he finds those friendships to help him heal. As sons we can have a hard time telling our moms how much we appreciate them but believe me I'm sure the fact that he has his mom to turn to means the world to him.
Worrying about him likely just makes him feel worse, like a burden. Just treat him like a regular human being
Some people just don't need friends and that's fine
A woman shows her love by entrusting her power to a man who won her trust by the court. It’s feminine.
When men give up power, they are emasculated.
Quotes from Ti Grâce Atkinson (feminist icon):
"Feminism is a theory, lesbianism is practice."
"Since the beginning of the Movement, lesbianism has been a kind of password for female resistance."
"The prostitute is the only honest woman left in America."
Valérie solanas (feminist icon)
Just as humans have a priority right to exist over dogs because they are more evolved and have a higher consciousness, women have a priority right to exist over men. The elimination of every man is therefore a just and good act, a highly beneficial act for women and an act of mercy."
Andre Dworkin
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure and formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies."
"I always wanted to see a man beaten to death with a high-heeled shoe stuck in his mouth, a kind of pig with the apple; it would be nice to put it on a serving plate but it would take good silverware."
Susan Brownmiller
"ALL men keep ALL women in a state of fear"
Kate Millette
"The complete destruction of traditional marriage and the nuclear family is the «revolutionary or utopian» goal of feminism."
"The lesbian is the feminist par excellence, because she does not like men - she is the independent woman par excellence."
"Finally, feminism will be recognized for what it is: a violently antisocial, anti-women and lesbian ideology that has taken power by claiming to defend «women’s rights». By taking power, feminism could emasculate men and masculinize women. In other words, women have usurped male identity and, in doing so, both sexes have lost theirs.
Incredibly, the destruction of heterosexuality is the hidden agenda of feminists, who believe that gender difference is the source of all injustices.
Most people do not realize that the feminist movement is literally of communist origin. Most of the leading feminist thinkers, including Betty Friedan and Simone de Beauvoir, were Marxists, and many were also lesbians.
Feminism is about power, not choice. No woman should be allowed to stay at home and raise her children," said feminist founder Simone de Beauvoir. "Women should not have this choice, because if there is such a choice, too many women will make it" (Saturday Review, 14 June 1975).
If feminism were really a matter of choice, it would not indoctrinate women to enter the labour market and become "independent". It would not demonize men and heterosexual love. It would not exclude feminists who marry and start a family.
Lesbians have always been women who coveted the male role. It is based on Marxist notions of «equality» and class conflict that have nothing to do with a mystical and biological reality such as love.
The breakdown of the traditional family caused by feminism is the main reason for our social, personal and existential problems. People have always drawn meaning and purpose from family roles (for example, daughter, wife and mother) and life cycle rituals (marriage, birth and death)...
marriage and the family are a path given by God to achieve love and personal fulfillment.
We do not find fullness by incorporating the masculine and the feminine into ourselves but by uniting ourselves to our opposite. Heterosexual love is the attraction of opposites. Indeed, as heterosexuals, we define ourselves according to these differences. If we are men, we are not women, and vice versa, like darkness and light."
H.Makow
As someone who was sliding into the manosphere about 10 years ago, I will say this: having people in your life who care about you and who are willing to be honest with you about how insane you sound is what pulls people out of it. Also, reminding them who causes most of their problems, the rich and powerful, is usually a great place to find common ground! You may have to work them a bit on who are rich and powerful, but once you get that squared up, it's usually pretty easy!
But also, I think there are tangible things we can do to improve communities and build better community spaces:
1) Make cities and towns much more walkable. The destruction of third spaces and the ability of people to get to them without a car has absolutely destroyed and alienated people from each other.
2) Encourage union membership and solidarity. It's an affront what the Democrats in this country have allowed to happen to unions.
3) Build community resources that everyone benefits from. More medium-rise, decent-quality public housing, more places to sit and relax outside, more common areas that appeal to people, etc.
Exactly! This is what needs to be broadcasted, I kind of support and don't support her message because her goal is basically to defeat Trump and elect inept left-wing politicians such as Biden. I would say both of them were horrible choices, the majority of people are very well aware of that, if anything we should focus on solving pressing issues and not play partisan games.
@@vkrgfan unfortunately, we live in a society with shit voting systems and overcentralized political power.
A vote for Biden may be a vote for mediocrity and mild benefit at best (see the first president to march with a union), but a vote for Trump is a vote for societal collapse (see Jan 6th).
Literally no leftist *wants* Biden, but we are forced to back him because our real choices are restricted by those with political power (see DNC and Bernie Sanders).
In the end we are forced to play the game, to some extent. We have to do what the DNC wants because we lack a national 3rd party movement. But when they get in power, it's easier to pressure them to do actually good things than it is to pressure the GOP.
What was especially frustrating to me was online platforms like Meetup getting so expensive and glitchy. Me and many other men and women had created very positive in person meetups but during covid and after they fell apart. There are so few free spaces to meet - we always met at coffee shops but we needed some better spaces. We all lived far from each other but some volunteered their homes but why isn't our society (online and in person) so antagonistic to people connecting?
@@vkrgfan
Not even in the current political landscape can you call Biden "left-wing". You are ill-informed. He is a VERY mainstream Democrat. It would even be a tough sell to label him "progressive". Its not surprising you think that, though. The current crop of the GOP is unrecognizable even to Reagan Republicans.
Wow. You are savaging Democrats for the current state of labor unions! I agree with you only insomuch that they aren't throwing themselves atop the grenades the Republicans are throwing at anything that protects workers.
Thank God, My dad never hesitated to tell me and my siblings, he loved us. Ive been in dark places in my life, but thankfully I have had people in my life that care. For that im grateful.
40 year-old BIPOC man here. I am also a licensed therapist, and I'm happy I can report that of my 20 most recent new clients over the past few months, about 14 were men coming in to address how "not OK" they are. They want to work on things like Depression, Substance Use Disorders, romantic rejection, family rejection, feeling a lack of purpose, feeling lonely, how to deal with anger, sexual dysfunction, and of course a metric fuck-ton of trauma. These guys are doing some extremely hard work of unpacking stuff they've kept stuffed down for years, sometimes decades, and taking responsibility for learning less self-destructive ways of expressing who they are. They are realizing and coming to terms with the idea that so many of the ways they've been conditioned to act in order to be "real men" have blocked off actual opportunities for strength, for connection with others, for simple joy. And many of them are owning the harm they've done to the women and other men in their lives, and learning to protect others by simply creating safety in their presence. I know this is just a drop in the bucket of what needs to happen and simply anecdotal, but dude, it's fucking awesome to see these guys doing this work. There's no way my experience can be a special case here, it's gotta be happening elsewhere as well.
Keep doing what you are doing. You are saving not only those men's lives, but also the lives of the women in those men's lives.
@@07Flash11MRC Thank you. That said, I don't save anyone, I just help them get the skills/tools to save themselves (& the people they love).
Loneliness is a way for exploitative groups like religions and extremist groups. "We understand your situation. We're here to help." We all want a sense of community, and when you are isolated, anything can look good.
When I am isolated that's when I feel the most comfortable....most people are afraid to be by themselves... I'm fine with it , I would rather spend my time with animals than with people
Especially because incels, MRAs, etc offer the first warmth a lot of these young men have been offered in a long time. "You're great just the way you are. You're a king. Women don't like you? They're stupid, they're dumb, who cares what they think. We've got your back, bro." Almost no lonely young man would resist that kind of approach. It's for a horrific agenda, of course, but they've mastered the elevator pitch.
@@TheCommunistColinis not that they mastered an elevator pitch, it’s also the fact that the left have dropped the ball on providing anything for men to strive for. It’s both, and the left have been so bad at retaining men or advocating for men that dogshit rhetoric from the right is better than the dogshit treatment from the left.
@@TheCommunistColin FACTS.
Yes yes ! Loneliness + not understanding time by yourself is important = perfect person for a cult to prey on them
As a man myself I agree that men are not ok. I'm 30, broke and broken. All around me, my brothers replicate in silence what we were taught.
If you can see this, then why not learn from what broke you, heal and move on? Broken female no longer letting who broke me live in my head rent free through further blame or anger. Takes time and courage to change the narrative.
@@melaniejean85 what broke you?
She speaks from her experiences as a man.
You got this, brother. Life is not easy, and we have been poisoned by the world we live in, but we do live on.
My recommendation? Find an org. A union a leftist group, or hell, a club. Get out and meet people with your interests.
This is important. Not only will these folk help you out of your funk, but you can network, maybe getting you into a better situation.
I'm 39, trust me bud, Everything will be ok. There is nothing wrong being in the rut for a little bit, but don't let yourself stay there for too long. My biggest advise is learn to be happy on your own first, and if you happen to find someone, it's a bonus. If you rely on the existence of someone to be happy, both of you will not be happy. We are here for fleeting time, just enjoy the ride.
I am an Educational Assistant in Special Education at an elementary school. I have been dealing with Clinical Depression for about 30 years now. I am very open about it with the children I work with using my experiences to empathize with them. Also, to let them know that if they need to talk I am there and will listen.
Thank you for raising this issue. There are too many young men committing suicide. We , as a community need to have this conversation openly. Women are not to blame, regardless of the Gutless Whimpering from some men. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
Women very much are to blame, and your name-calling pretty much demonstrates how compassionless and simple you actually are.
Women didn't do all of it, but I think it's difficult to address the problem when only talking to half the population. And it can even seem self-defeating, men deal with it, can sound a lot like man up to some people. I don't think anyone with a platform has described women's influence reasonably, though. Imo, project communication works best when you address the group, then each sub-group is individually addressed on how they can help to fix it. A lot less blamey than most people tend to communicate, especially online.
@@leobigelow7021 No their not you're literally pushing debunked manosphere propaganda.
@@leobigelow7021 It Sounds like you are a professional victim. Always looking to blame someone else for your poor choices in life.😄
In Italy, friends tell other friends (and family) “ti voglio bene”, and it means I love you, but in a non-sexual way… we need this in English. There’s nothing wrong with caring for others, and caring for others means you’re ok with being vulnerable, which takes a lot of strength.
that is great, I love that. Not like those shifty French who have the same word for friend and lover 🤣
as italian man I can tell you it's not very common between straight men to tell each other 'ti voglio bene' unfortunately
@@tanner293 As expected. When someone talks like an influencer you know they are talking bullshihat.
@@ColtraneTaylor still, it's not a reason to talk like that to people
@@ColtraneTaylor structuring a sentence correctly is talking like an influencer?
If I’m going to be honest here; I am a lonely man, and have been rejected by women my whole life and believe myself to be better than the average male, but at NO POINT did my ideology flip to finger-pointing at women. I’m socially anxious and an introvert, and yes I’ve been rejected, but not by ANY measurable percent of the world’s female population. I am where I am because of who I am and what i do. I just haven’t found the right woman, but I blame myself for not putting myself out there more because no woman is going to knock on my door and introduce herself. That’s the BIGGEST issue I see in society. An inability to look within, see our failures and shortcomings, face them and promise to do and be better. I have noticed it most in people’s (NOT just men) inability to apologize for mistakes. We are all human and that is part of the definition. Embrace what and who you are and keep trying, because relying on hatred will DEFINITELY never help.
Tbh, as a woman, I don't think it is all you. Despite having a better work culture than Japan, I see a lot of the same atomization of society like Japan.
Whether that be because our work culture isn't THAT much better than Japan's, no third spaces, technology, social media, the political climate, the economy, even down to the way Americans are incredibly car centric, or a combination of them all, I just think people in general are a lot less willing to put in the work to either keep a relationship, or engage in one at all, and this isn't limited to romantic relationships either.
It could be you, and that might include into my list, but I don't think you need to take the full brunt of responsibility.
Idk I kinda don't like the framing of "Despite this being a bit of a systemic problem which is why redpillers exist at all, it is just based on MY responsibilities" I wouldn't use the "personal responsibility" framing with poor people, so I don't think using it with men on this is right either. Redpillers are wrong about what the problem is, and the solution to what they think the problem is, but I don't exactly think they are wrong that society HAS a problem.
Also if you do want to start dating, just remember woman don't exist on dating sites. Like literally the amount of men to woman is very lopsided 80% to 20% on tinder, 60% to 40% on Bumble, not saying you can't use them. Just temper your expectations of what you might find over there.
And good luck dude I'm rooting for you. ❤️❤️
You need to get to a point where you don't blame yourself either because that isn't healthy, trying to be 'better' out of insecurity or to spite yourself is a bad foundation and will only cause you misery later on
Stop blaming yourself
@@painunending4610 blame may be the wrong word as much as I know why I am alone and it’s because I panic when it comes to women. My anxiety goes into overdrive and I overthink every word and it becomes a self-fulfilling situation, where I just don’t want to sound like a fool, but because of my reaction I will end up sounding like it solely because I just can’t stay calm.
Also, it’s more about accepting responsibility rather than blaming the opposite sex. If there’s a outlook, it’s that “it is what it is” and no one is to blame.
I just don’t like how they can wonder why they get women that mistreat them when their perspective is like my anxiety, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
As a woman I appreciate and respect the fact that you are able to be honest and say that and that is ten times more attractive then any guy that pretends to be something he is not! I believe if a guy just talks and then listens to a woman then that is the best way to meet them. It may take time and may mean just being friends but then being around women means meeting more of their friends etc. and then without expecting anything, there is a good chance something will happen. Then at the end of the day there will be good friends to spend time with and eventually others to date. I see these pick up classes where the male teacher teaches men to Neg a woman or Peacock etc. for a fee of $2,000. I would genuinely say just be yourself and actually listen to a woman when they talk and get to know each other (even if it means being friends). The more that is done, the more exposure to others will mean higher chances of it being the right person. That is the best approach IMO. If a person rejects someone, that is ok and there are millions of others out there so need to get angry or hate women etc. Anyway hope that makes sense and hope you know you are valuable!
@@bt4582 Being myself hasn’t netted me much, but I can’t do anything but that. I will seem awkward because I am awkward. Also, not a youngster anymore. Everyone goes through challenges and blaming anyone other than yourself gets you to be the 45th president. But that’s all lol
Thanks for the kind words.
We always talk about representation in media. It’s why Wonder Woman and Black Panther garnered so much buzz. But I never thought of it as Trump is the bad kind of representation. I always knew it was “he said the quiet part out loud” or “he made it ok to be vocal about taboo stuff”, but he really is just representation. I wonder how folks in the manosphere will react to that verbiage.
I was getting sucked into this, thinking it was about fitness until I realized that getting women was a huge part of it. I'm not attracted to women and I felt it wasn't for me but there's also a lot of homophobic rhetoric that gets spewed out of this and it became obvious I didn't belong in that corner of the internet.
1. freedom of speech
2.kill prisoners
3.bodly autonomy
4.gender equality
5.no funds to able people who refuse to work
6.organ transplant after death national law
7.religon and philosophy keep to themselves
8. gym should be a national club
9. nice attire i like old clothing
gsad 😉
this is why gay men are overwhelmingly left wing, not only for the obvious reason that it fights for gay rights, but because the manosphere and that misogynistic bullshit doesn't apply to us, because we have no desire to marry/have sex with women, so we recognize at a glance that it's made up
You’ve been on quite the roll Leeja! Keep up the patriotic work ❤
thank you!!!
@@LeejaMillerred and blue pill, you've just described being woke, congrats 👏
Sadly we're reversing to rithg wing collectivism aka bundle of sticks aka fachsim
@@LeejaMillerYou're a goddess! Love your videos!
@@LeejaMillerAs a 68 year old man. You are my new hero. Plz stay strong and Keep Educating. The World Needs more women in POWER.
@@SlitWristMisfit_Your UA-cam name is in very bad taste. 😢
The fact that this idealogy is almost like a battle cry, and widespread, accepted notion of what men are and what women are, it is so terrifying.
It is terrifying to you because you know it has the power to wash away all the bs you've been peddling in your philosophy
@@Kim_YoJongphilosophy teaches you to think and create your own morals. You must like being a sheep
@@Kim_YoJongAnd we're supposed to listen to someone who has a profile pic of Kim Jong Un's sister?
@@seantylerfermin4927hey the bread girl did nothing wrong 😂😂
@@Kim_YoJong if my philosophy being that I a human being don’t exist for the sole purpose of being a slave to another human being is problematic to you, you’re just a bad person.
I guess I'm a lucky guy. Happily married for 40 years to an educated, smart , strong , independent woman who loves me more than
I thought possible. Two kids who love me. And a few friends that I hang with and get and give support to, both men and women. Yay me.
Strong, independent woman - Until she needs a flat tire changed! 😆
The world you grew up in is dead. What both men and women live in today is vastly different
Your experience is not reflective of the reality of what the vast majority of people experience with the opposite sex. Fairy tales don't exist, there's a skeleton in everyone's closet and there's always more than what meets the eye.
@@miket7184 You think women can't change flat tires?
No, we are not ok.
I am a Gen-z male, and it absolutely terrifies me that boys in my generation will start to have a twisted and convoluted view of women and what masculinity really is. I believe that this is because of social media influencers like the Tate brothers that more young men have mysogynistic views, and absolutely believe that more people should be trying to stop it.
Start to have it? These types of mysogyny have always been around, now it's just on the internet
The best thing you can do is to call it out. Men listen to men. Continue the good work of refusing to ignore misogyny!
Those men(or kids) were thinking like Tate before they heard about him. They were just looking for someone like him to reenforce their world view.
Definitely keep calling it out and not just saying that it's not OK, but ask questions about why they believe what they believe.
The world ain't so bad.
When we say "touch grass" it's not just meant as a petty insult. Going outside, feeling the sun, and talking to real people will genuinely help one's disposition.
Staying on the internet for a long time is venom to the mind.
As a 36yr old single guy, I 100% agree with your video. I started yoga this summer and it's helped me a lot.
Talk to other men about how you made it.
That's great. Proud of you from a complete stranger.
Validation seeker
@@vklnew9824 go touch grass.
Yoga seems relaxing
I feel like Elliot Sang has made good videos on this topic. His video really goes in depth on how we solve this. We do have a connection problem but even more we have no where to connect. We need places that are public to hang out, outside, in the real world with real people.
Here's his best on this topic :
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I used to be in the alt right but I got out because of the things against women
That's why I got in.
Ignore the other person in the replies, I’m really happy for you.
Yeah I got into the right because of the radical extremism of the left
Good for you 👍 😊
@@petervizzini4006 "the radical extremism of the left": lmao, what would that be?
My cousin was on my mind one day and he happened to add to his story. I decided to reach out and say hi. Apparently he was feeling pretty down that day and I cheered him up. It’s rough out there and it’s okay to talk about it. It’s not okay to try to solve the problem by eliminating or controlling parts of the population. When is that ever okay?
What really sucks is that the appeal of the manosphere is super apparent:
Have you ever tried blaming other people for your problems? It feels AWESOME.
They can't; since once they realize that they're responsible for their own fuck ups, they blow their brains out.
Its not just that. People gravitate to where they feel empowered. The left has a lot of empowering messaging for women. The left doesn’t have a lot of empowering messaging for men.
Theres a thread on AskFeminists right now about romance novels and many of the people there apparently come to the conclusion without realizing it that a genre of books designed by women for women on a medium where women have the freedom to collectively choose any kind of partner they want, leads women to fantasize about getting sexually assaulted by someone as violent as Christian Bale as Batman, Psychopathic as Christian Bale as American Psycho and mysterious as Christan Bale in The Prestige. There's a reason 50 shades was a best seller.
Sounds a lot like Andrew Tate doesn't it? The inability of feminists and women to talk about it is causing men that are trying to find a meaningful relationship to choose the right after 2 decades of being told "put yourself out there be yourself and be her friend" because that's what works for women and men that are 6'6 with huge d.
The responses to my comment show why the left is definitely going to lose massive ground with the entire male population. You mean to tell me that all of these books are catered towards ONLY females that were r*****?? But they're reading these fantasy novels because they want to reimagine it as a consensual act with someone that they're attracted to? Which just so happens to be a 6'6 guy that's hung, and not George Costanza that just got out of a pool?
They can't help but loop everything back to victimhood. Every chance they get. On the open dating market, yes, almost everything incels and RP guys say about women is completely accurate. The left, specifically WOMEN should DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT before more kids become indoctrinated with these extremist worldviews instead of listening to feminists that constantly blame men and patriarchy.
When men only have Andrew Tates as role models guess what happens.
@@ikilledthemoon And women and feminists are a monolith. Blah, blah, yada, yada, this is totally the reason men want to be abusive and without responsibility, right? Romance novels that some women live vicariously through to indulge their darkest fetishes are pushing men to the right because women and feminists won't talk about how damaging it is... Well done. You've figured it out! Women secretly want Andrew Tate and they're totes lying when they say they don't want Andrew Tate, cause they're a monolith, and only one woman needs to say yes!
As a male belonging to that 15% that has no friends, I'll tell you it's because I don't care for sports, video games, or objectifying women. It's tough out there for guys who don't adhere to social stereotypes. I don't give a fuck if some Chad thinks I'm a beta, I don't watch football.
You're a pretty angry unit, aren't you? That, too, is not exactly a key to popularity.
@@leobigelow7021 not angry at all, nor do I care about being popular. I just think it's sad that the majority of men base their entire personalities on the same boring shit.
@@leobigelow7021 I'm just curious, what makes you think there was any anger in my comment? Because I said fuck? Never thought I'd trigger such a sensitive Chad by not liking his only interests. What's your favorite one, objectifying women?
@@zerofaith How about saying "I don't give a fuck if some Chad thinks I"m a beta" -- you obviously take enormous pride in "not adhering to social stereotypes". You're clearly also frustrated as hell. Although I do enjoy objectifying women, I also enjoy hating people who are different than me, worshipping Donald Trump, getting angry to protect my very fragile male ego and subconsciously treating guns as surrogate penises. Feel better now?
@@leobigelow7021 I'm not frustrated at all, in fact I have a lot of pride in the fact that I'm nothing like you. I take pity on such an acute understanding of the world. You've boxed yourself into a very sad and desperate world view where none of your values are validated without devaluing the breadth of human experience. It's interesting that you think you're empowering your stance by stating some stereotypes that you think I believe about your position, when in fact you're only revealing how childish your mentality is.
It’s very easy as a young man to slip into this mindset; I had to do some very deep reflection on this rhetoric that I found myself consuming on the regular, coming to the realization that this sort of entitlement that comes with the “redpill” towards women and their sexual autonomy is very disturbing and deeply troubling. Glad there’s a name for it now.
Disturbing to who? Troubling why? I think it's honest, important and the path of out hell for young men.
Be careful you might almost become as entitled as the average woman is, the only difference is that, since you are the average male you are not going to get away with it
@@JoeMama-gi1so Well, so far I have.
I’m queer, and have been saved - literally saved - by women, and have for sixty years been victimized by this idea of masculinity and the men who espouse it. I am struggling to find my compassion for these men. I do know that I should.
I am a younger queer myself. We must know that compassion does not require a weak response. These lies lead people down a path of violence and death. Shutting down/opposing these violent expressions, showing them who is attempting to manipulate them and to what ends, offering alternatives (the queer community is a good example of an alternative) offering them the humanity and consideration they feel they have been denied, etc. are all good ways to do this.
As a woman, I have no compassion for these men. We all make our choices, and their choices are not deserving of compassion.
What for? It doesn't take much of a google to find literally millions of posts explaining exactly why this stuff is bad for them. They're choosing to be dicks. I have zero sympathy.
I'm queer and amab and have been physically, sexually, and emotionally tortured and assaulted by women almost exclusively. Let's not act like this situation is exclusive to one sex or gender. Though it is worth mentioning that when a woman is in my situation there are tons of resources to help. I tried to get out of a violent enmeshed situation being dominated and controlled by a female and couldn't find a single shelter in 50 miles that could or would take in a male.
Not asking for sympathy or empathy, I'm asking y'all to not feed into this narrative of villianizing a gender. The problem is capitalism, not men or women. The more they get us to fight each other the less we'll fight against them.
"I do know that I should" how artificial.
Dr. K actually made a really good video on men and therapy and why it sucks for men. It essentially boils down to therapy being based on studies that had woman as the majority participants leading to therapy training to be more tailored to the feminine for a lack of better words. This means that therapy is more geared towards getting people to talk abt their feelings and most men’s answer to questions involving emotions is “I don’t know” (I have been told I’m more emotionally than other men in the lives of those around me and I still relate to this sentiment) and the reason for this is due to men seeing negative feelings as a problem to be solved versus women who tend to see it as something to be discussed. In order for the majority of men to see therapy as a safe space there needs to be an adjust in therapy styles that are more tailored towards men and what they actually need.
Also neurodivergents, lgbt, and PoC. Tbh, the reason therapy fails so many is because it's designed for white, neurotypical, cishet, women, and less the further away you go from that. As a poc and neurodivergent woman, therapy doesn't really work for me because my brain functions in a slightly different way that made therapy a waste of time
It should also preferably be AFFORDABLE
@@mykaruest3620 I’m also neurodivergent. I have found that therapy can work if you find a therapist who specializes in helping neurodivergent patients. I agree that because we are wired differently, the same approaches that help typical people don’t work well for us.
Thank you! Yet no one will EVER talk about that, because it will just be shouted down as being "misogynistic", despite being true.
that’s a really good point! it should be acknowledged that literally all of biological research, including neuroscience, is primarily based on male subjects because they “don’t have those pesky fluctuating hormones like females” (which is not true lmao). all sciences and social sciences should be based on research with actually representative subject pools
I don't understand how you can ignore the root cause of these problems for men in modern society: The completely broken and corrupt socio-economic system we exist in today.
which spawned out of women voting.
women voted for feminist policies this is the consequence duh
The left doesn't offer great solutions for men either. They insist on breaking down gender, or even making men more feminine, which is not something men are going to be receptive to. Its also capitalism's fault or something.
It's easier to be misogynistic than admit that men should not be running the world... "bros before hoes"... nonsense like that.
Ozzie_Mandias
How is it misogynistic to say that the reason why men are alone and depressed is because one if the reasons is that they have pretty much eliminated all male spaces such as the boy scouts. But they never eliminated female spaces like girl scouts. There are some extreme misogynistic people but there also misandristic people. In fact, misandry is more rampant than misogyny. What about the fact that men are screwed in the court system all the time and always favor a women over a men. They are more likely to win custody if the children. When society and especially the media talks garbage about Men. The education system that has a strong bias against boys. Boys are punished for acting like a normal boy. All the fatherless is a big problem. Although it's true that it could be because fathers leave the family, it is also do to the fact that women divorce their husband and likely won custody of the children. This gets worse as the government incentives single parenthood than married couples
@@Ozzie_Mandias Conflating male chauvanism with misogyni, while outright misandry is encouraged in society… Another step in the wrong direction.
Thank you Leeja Miller!
I'm going to start reaching out to some old bros from my past. I won't reignite a friendship with all of them, but anyone of them who responds will mean so much to me.
I'm a man. I'm also a high school art teacher. Let me tell you it doesn't take much to open up and mentor other men. A lot of us just need some to empathize and say "ah man that sucks!" so we can move past a bad experience.
Dude if you need all that BS you are no man .
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Sounds like your students are fortunate to have someone like you to turn to, and mentor, and teach them.
High School and Jr high seem more difficult for kids, even though it was bad enough when I was that age. I don't understand why kids/teens have to have it even harder now.
They dont want that. Successful men can't be controlled.
@@user-lb9wj6qy2p No, AC its the foundation of male bonding, and any man would know that.
I work with a group of sensitive, empathic men, huggers. They are so supportive of one another and to me as well. I want to be better person, because they are such good men. I also want to read the Norah Vincent book - where she, as a feminist, lived as a man...
I'm horrified but not surprised by the manosphere. So much of it seems like the same retrogressive inability to confront a socially complex world and want to hide in an imaginary past. I'm an outlier, here. Formative experiences of not falling in line w/male pecking orders taught me that men were vain & obsessed w/degrees of maleness and status that I would seemingly never enjoy, so I never bothered trying to fit in. *as a consequence women became much more relatable to me, and appreciated as friends.*
It's how right wing propaganda works, it's a hatespeech incitement technique also known as Gaslighting aka Grooming
Also accusation in a mirror
They do it in Cults
Connect the dots
Just what I need, another woman in the friend zone..
@@mkucstars1 treating women like chattel is a sure recipe for a lonely life
@@mkucstars1better to friend zone then fuck zone...
Quotes from Ti Grâce Atkinson (feminist icon):
"Feminism is a theory, lesbianism is practice."
"Since the beginning of the Movement, lesbianism has been a kind of password for female resistance."
"The prostitute is the only honest woman left in America."
Valérie solanas (feminist icon)
"Just as humans have a priority right to exist over dogs because they are more evolved and have a higher consciousness, women have a priority right to exist over men. The elimination of every man is therefore a just and good act, a highly beneficial act for women and an act of mercy."
Andre Dworkin
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure and formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies."
"I always wanted to see a man beaten to death with a high-heeled shoe stuck in his mouth, a kind of pig with the apple; it would be nice to put it on a serving plate but it would take good silverware."
Susan Brownmiller
"ALL men keep ALL women in a state of fear"
Kate Millette
"The complete destruction of traditional marriage and the nuclear family is the «revolutionary or utopian» goal of feminism."
"The lesbian is the feminist par excellence, because she does not like men - she is the independent woman par excellence."
I'm going to text my bro and tell him he is really important to me, thank you for this message ❤️
That still won't get him the love of a nice woman
No I will absolutely give him the love of a woman, if you know what I mean
This has been an awesome video. I love your channel Leeja Miller.
Socialism sucks 🔥
Mashallah brother
Always good to see a comrade.
Thank you! I'm an ex-incel and this is an excellent depiction of what I went through.
How did you transition away from being an incel? Was there a specific inciting incident?
Good luck Gael.
@@parissinclair6513 I think that’s kinda self explanatory 🙃
@@parissinclair6513 a serie of events. I ended up watching a video of a Cristian supremacist that I completely disagreed with and around the same time so a few antisemitic comments in some communities. Both events made me start questioning right wing ideology I felt into.
Later I ended up on a site where you put a photo of you and people rate it, after trying a few I received a comment on one "10/10 would date". This was a wake up call, I needed to go out and talk to people, I went out, talked to a girl, it we had a good time, this was more than 4 years ago, she is sitting next to me right now 😊
I'm sorry. Finding yourself in that world is a hard, hard thing. That's a horrible thing to endure, and I'm glad you're on the other side.
Most of these guys tend to be really insecure deep inside, It's pretty bizarre
It makes sense though. A lot of insecure people lash out at others to make themselves feel better. It's easier than developing an actual skill or personality.
Nailed it !
@ev.h.3455The irony was lost on this one
How much is Madison Ave. to blame. Incels anyone ?
@ev.h.3455you can always work to become virtuous.. instead of getting angry at other people who have actual morals and empathy you can learn empathy and develop a moral compass.. you don’t have to be like this. Getting pissy at people who are better then you is a terrible way to handle your insecurities. Deep down you know you are jealous you have no virtue, lashing out in comment sections is just you signaling your insecurities.
All I'm saying fellas, is there is nothing more manly, than checking up on yourself and your friends, showing you care, and going to therapy, Don't let toxic masculinity make you feel inferior. You are enough.
Not one word of this is true. And nobody who hasn't been raised on a steady diet of soy can even say it with a straight face.
I went to therapy and I beat depression by embracing toxic masculinity (Stoic philosophy)
I don't get why the left are eternal free adverts for therapy though.
@@christiantaylor1495 Stoicism has zero things to do with toxic masculinity lmao. wtf you smoking dude. Bill Murray is probably the most famous example of a stoic person. And zero feminists would describe him as a "toxic male" lmao. Stoicism has its roots in buddism. The Buddha was literally the opposite of a "toxic male". You have it so backwards that i dont know whether to laugh or cry dude.
@@leobigelow7021 And what was your diet growing up? Because you sound like a boy who is dead scared of his own feelings right now. Like petrified.
What is and isn't "manly" is totally subjective anyway.
@@bigoltits1880stoicism is greek and was transplanted to India via the Persian Empire who conquered parts of Greece and to break the population exiled them to their eastern provinces (northern India). Not that Buddhism isn't original, but we all stand on the shoulders of giants. Stoics are famously good warriors, Charles Martel was famous for it, though he was more chivalric than purely stoic like Markus Aurelius. But, stoics also don't seek conflict, they do protect, serve and support their community. Stoicism is about how much you can breathe through tough situations and keep your peace (not denial of emotions, proper control that only exists from a place of deep emotional understanding) and being generous in BIG ways, giving your portion of the profit to a reputable charity, anonymously. Return the shopping cart, defend your family. It's solid philosophy and is in line with socialism for the most part, Christian is also into CP, he's got a CP 🤡 as his PFP holding a child. Not kosher.
Holy Shit! "Sexual birthright??" Let's say it together, fam, "Women don't OWE you anything. Nothing."
Of course, in situations where the tables are turned, and men decide they don't owe you anything, women absolutely freak out. Try, for instance, suggesting that when a woman feels "uncomfortable" she should deal with it herself, and see how that goes.
@@leobigelow7021 Ok, Troll. I’m not sure exactly what you’re talking about. If I feel uncomfortable (about what? Am I sitting in a puddle? Are you in my personal space?) what would, I as a woman, expect from you? To supply me with a towel? Nah, I’ll get my own. To move away from me? Well, that depends, did I sit next to you or did you encroach? I’m all for personal responsibility and I stand by my original point. Sex isn’t owed to you, just for existing.
@@aslrunner That's not what you said. You said "Women don't owe you anything." Seriously, good luck with that. Consider, if you can, a world in which nobody cares if you're "uncomfortable".
@@leobigelow7021 I didn't say no one should care about anyone else. Just that they don't OWE you anything. There's a difference.
@@aslrunnerneither do men owe women anything
Who is raising these young men? I have a 30-year-old son. Most people would classify him as "masculine" I guess, but he's also, newly married, artistic, communicative, empathetic, hilariously funny, handsome, athletic, a feminist, a big animal lover, a great dancers, a hard worker, a goal setter and has a group of four other men, and a lesbian (Casey was in my son's wedding party this spring) who have literally been friends since first grade. When I say they're close, these young people are like siblings.
How are these young men being raised that they come out of it like this?
It's hard to say really. I'm a little older than your son and have some close friends but it gets harder with age, college, relationships, moving to different cities, starting families, etc. I can understand how some people can fall into this crap but we need to do a better job of teaching young people, both make and female, how to behave and interact with each other. How to be more supportive and inclusive with each other. Instead of saying one person is a feminist and the other person is a violent male. We are biologically different and have differences but at are all human, bleed the same, have similar emotions, want to be loved and cared for. I hope we start being more friendly to each other and stop with all this one side or the other stuff.
Kids are moulded equally much by their peers around them, if not more.
@rudysal1429 True. I've seen several articles lately that young people are lonely and covid didn't help. 😒 I don't feel like I did anything extraordinary. I talked to my kids, I have a daughter too, who I might have praised a little too much because she's FULL of self-confidence 🤣 I was raised by parents who's love was conditional. So, I just loved and supported mine in whatever their interests were. My son auditioned in high school to go to an arts camp. He went in acting. My parents thought it was "stupid" for him to skip a summer of baseball for acting camp if that tells you anything 🙄 I let them be themselves and made sure they knew there wasn't anything they could do that would make me love them any less. I might not love all their choices, but I love them. And I talked with them, as people, not someone to be controlled.
I think when you described him as masculine is why he doesn't resort to any of the craziness, he never had to deal with constant ridicule, people constantly making fun of him etc. I'm not defending anyone who's violent or racist or wants to make anyone subservient, but I have a younger cousin who would be considered a "nerd", thick glasses, thin, very book smart etc. He wouldn't hurt a fly, but I feel so bad for him and other guys like him, he's been cursed out, called names, given terrible looks just for saying hello, picked on and ridiculed for no fault of his, just for existing and its all by women. He tried committing suicide twice that I know of, he can't help that he's not what is set up as ideal from the opposite sex, but he's truly a good kid. While I agree with the video on the subject of violent men or those who dehumanize others, a lot of those guys are not like that, wouldn't hurt anyone, they just happen to be unattractive, no one wants them around and it can be a very brutal life for someone like that. You have to try to put yourself in others shoes to understand them sometimes. Although I'm happily married and have been blessed to actually be chosen by the opposite sex for relationships, I have the ability to emphasize for others who will never experience getting married, having children and raising the next generation, it's sad.
I mean do you have money? Lol because for people who don't America is a real fucked up place to grow up lol
I once saw a meme on social media. It showed a pickup truck parked in a parking lot but it was parked across 4 parking spots. The back window was covered in Trump stickers, and the "f*ck your feelings" type stuff. The meme said "Why is it that the biggest assholes I knew in highschool turned out to be the biggest Trump supporters?" It hit the nail on the head. At the end when you said that most of the people who were arrested for what they did January 6th had domestic assault charges, it just made so much sense.
You can get an assault charge for telling someone to F off. You mistaking assault for battery (I know the terminology is misleading).
It naturally makes sense people that are willing to assault someone. are more likely to take action be it for any reason. But you do realize that no different than masked people going around campuses smacking people with bike locks over opinions. The one two differences are one is assaulting (basically talking shit aggressively) and one’s battering (what you think assault means, actually hitting people). And one does it honestly and openly while the other hides behind a mask.
I don’t vote. Dgaf about trump, Biden, Obama, bush, Clinton, or the other bs (might as well list all the rulers since my birth). It’s just yea assault is not battery, you just don’t know basic definitions. But your fine with either depending on the situation. It’s not a toxic masculinity issue. It’s a humans are violent when they have to be issue, or just perceive they can be and it’s chill. It’s an important part of life to be willing to be violent.
I gulped, even though that epiphany was staring us in the face this whole time! Glad someone commented on the importance of this. Thanks for sharing the meme, too! 'Night.
@@humpteedumptee8629 I'm sorry, but you're actually incorrect. Assault is a broader term than battery. Section 265(1) of the Canadian Criminal Code defines assault. This definition includes the use of intentional force either directly or indirectly. I.e., using the term "domestic assault" can indeed include actual physical harm. Yes, I know this is Canadian law, but battery in the US is considered "completed assault"... so again, "assault" as a term is broader and encompasses battery (think also aggravated assault, assault with a deadly weapon, etc). Anyway, I have never in my life threatened someone with violence without it being in self defence... Even the men who are 'merely threatening' their partners with violence are a special kind of garbage.
@@93runninggiraffes you didnt say anything at all to change the distinction. literally your entire post was worthless information. if you cant see a see a large distinction between physical violence and words... there not at all comparable.
would you rather someone threaten you or beat you? if you were in a confrontation would your threaten or beat someone first? its hugee difference. also its its far easier to get a assault charge. almost every state (canada dont matter might as well be china. its just not at all the same. we make up 75% of the global prison pop for a reason.) has automatic arrest laws. this means as it sounds if cops are called at all their is an automatic arrest made. when you compound this with plea bargains and mandatory minimum sentences. it leads to a 90% plus conviction rate. what happens is your automatically arrested (90% of the time the person that calls the cops is assumed the victim). than your automatically charged (regardless of if the assumed victim presses charges). than a bout a month later you are given a plea deal to accept 2 years probation. if you refuse you are facing min of 5 years in prison, with a 90% chance of conviction at trail. this is regardless of any evidence whatsoever purely on accusation. this is rather its in your house, in public, whatever. any heated argument at all reported to police.
yea with laws like this your going to have an incredibly high rate of assault convictions. most people dont have 10k to give lawyer to have it dropped or fought.
now the important distinction. what would it be easier for me to give you? an assault charge or a battery charge? like if my sole goal in life rather im a petty ex, or just someone that dont like you. would it be hard to get you convicted? all i have to do is goat you into an argument and call the cops and say "he threatened me". and the rest of the process in the US is automated and streamlined. it probably harder to ger you to beat my ass than to threaten me. it would probably take me at most a month to make you a felon.
@@humpteedumptee8629wow, just wow. You're so wrong. Your opinion is just so....
...weird.
Christopher Hitchens said it best when he said "An idea that claims to explain everything actually explains nothing.”
You claim that everything bad is the fault of some mystical patriarchy but provide no evidence for that other than "bad thing exists therefore patriarchy." Its the height of intellectual laziness that you can just assert it as some catch all term for everything bad in the world.
"some mystical patriarchy": Dude, it's systemic. The system we live in is patriarchal càpìtálísm. It's literally surrounding us all. The evidence is everywhere: Racism, s€xism, inequalities, bigotry, and so much more is evidence for this.
I feel like a surgery done on male babies has been normalized and destroys some of them, and when I say anything about it, I get censured.
My first boyfriend had deformities from a botched infant circumcision.. there was something deeply wrong with this boy despite having loving parents-pyromaniac, night terrors, idealized Nazis, sexualized everyone who was the last bit caring towards him including his mother and best (male) friend.. no real compassion for anyone, and big into fantasy violence games. I think if it weren’t for me becoming a type of messed up therapist for him at ages 14-17, he’d have become like the Columbine boys if you know what I mean.
Empathy will take you far my friends, unite the sexes. Practice listening and treating people like you'd want to be treated.
Best comment all night! Peace.
Progressives need to take the first step to reconciliation.
@@montithered4741well they aren’t the violent ones, sooo…
@@montithered4741 Reconciliation of what? How did politics get involved?
@@montithered4741did you watch the video? Did you get to the point where she described how feminism *is* trying to reconcile men away from patriarchal toxicity?
Man, the ending part about reaching out to people really hit right in the feels
she wants to turn you gay
this video was pure trash
Lost my wife to of 41 years in 2022 to the covid "treatment". I am ok. She is in a much better place. I'm not looking for someone. I have a home in the country, a yard full of dogs, I play music, go to the shooting range, ride my motorcycle. I associate with very few people.
I live my life my way. Loved my wife dearly, but now I enjoy my solitude.
Leeja, yesterday a man who felt he was treated unfairly in family court shot and killed the judge. What's worse, virtually ALL the comments on the article were positive, supporting him, justifying his killing of this judge, saying basically "That's what happens when judge's decisions hurt husbands and fathers!". How to address this?
Well, for starters, recognize the very obvious point that it's a single extreme example of behavior that correlates to absolutely nothing in the society at large.
@@leobigelow7021 It absolute correlates to society. Incels are biggest demographic of domestic terrorists besides islam extremists by official goverment data. Incel extremism is dangerous and growing trend and growing extremist group. Not suprised you ignore that since you do incel apologia all over the comments. Also ignoring that all the comments of manosphere/red pill sexists your community grooms and indoctrinates into sexism where positive and they support domestic terrorism are you since you don't want to admit how extremist,sexist and misogynistic incels are.
Your example is why I am starting to think that social media is biggest evil of all with how much extremism,sexism,misogyny and outright support for authoritarian regimes are growing. A lot of people don't have basic critical thinking or logic and fall for any conspiracy theory or any far right propoganda. Social media made extremism and desinformation a norm. I ain't even that old still near 30's and I already miss the early 2000's before any social media was invented so much. 80',90' and 2000's was much more relaxed and better time Trump election and normalization of religious extremism and white supremacists movements was beginning into this world becoming dystopia and the pandemic,wars,escalating climate change just made this society into straight up apocalyptic depressing dystopia.
@@europeansocialdemocrat This is a classic leftist example of name-calling and smearing without any actual facts at all. Please point me to a study that proves that "incel extremism" is dangerous. Also, define it. Also, if you want to have an actual rational discussion, which I highly doubt, labeling someone who disagrees with you as an "incel apologist", whatever the hell that is, is just glaringly dumb. You don't have any idea what you're talking about, and you don't have an actual argument to make, so there's just a bunch of name-calling. By the way, just in case you want to try to slap that label on me, I have three kids.
@@europeansocialdemocrat Really? "A lot of people don't have basic critical thinking or logic?" There isn't a single logical component to this post. I mean, seriously, the "society is a straight-up apocalyptic, depressing dystopia"? Try playing fewer video games and reading a book once in a while.
Super okay dude here - I hug my boys and tell them I love them all the time, go to therapy, express my emotions/feelings openly and regularly, etc. so much of that is due to my family being so open and loving. I believe too many men had emotionally absent fathers who imprinted the wrong traits in their sons. There’s a delicate balance of feminine and masculine traits to make a well balanced man, yet so many guys think they have to encapsulate the most toxically masculine persona, not realizing it’s part of the reason they’re so miserable with their lives and bad at relationships.
Facts
I almost fell into the INCEL trap after getting my heart broken when I was younger. So glad I didn't and decided to focus on my career, fitness, and well being. I later met another guy who was fully engulfed in the manosphere, a delusional, absolutist, victim mentality to say the least.
It's all about finding purpose in life and improving yourself, no matter what life throws at you.
There's no need for any "pills" or ideologies.
I'm glad you're doing better now
I’m glad you were able to push past it. I honestly feel bad for people stuck in the manosphere. They just want a true friend. And people on the “twitter left” tell them it’s their fault anyways and they deserve it, literally making them feel justified in becoming radicalized.
In a way he is the victim, just of the modern toxicity of the patriarchy and not women (of course there are plenty of women who are assholes, but I’m sure the stats are roughly equal between genders).
OP, this doesn't decrease your chance of being rinsed in a divorce.
@@i10i60 You can literally do all of what you're describing and still have a very healthy skepticism of what damage toxic leftism has wrought upon society.
Men shouldn't be blindly accepting whatever life throws at them, men especially men who are adept should be using their ability to appraise social conventions to avoid being a casualty of postmodern politics.
@@ptrkmr " literally making them feel justified in becoming radicalized. "
You're admitting that the left retains a toxic and unjustified bias against men, thank you for doing so.
Men do a great disservice to themselves in ignoring this fact, but you've let the cat out of the bag.
Thank you so much for this video! As a man who grew up in a highly misogynistic culture, but now considers myself a feminist, I needed to find your channel 😍
Keep it coming guys, you're almost there 😂😂😂
You’re a feminist? Right 😒
@@crazyzombie9720 Claiming to be a feminist is a well-known strategy employed by unattractive males to artificially raise their social status in gynocentric societies.
Rarely works to get them laid though 😂
@@crazyzombie9720 you 2 in the replies are okay?
you have no respect for yourself
No, none of the dudes I know are alright. But also, none of them have gone manosphere thankfully
If they went manosphere, then they'd be alright. That's why the ones you know aren't alright
Weird, almost makes it sound like the manosphere is down stream of whatever this 'crisis in young men', huh?
liberals just call everything thats not progressive -- alt-right.
@@christiantaylor1495 "If they went manosphere, then they'd be alright.": If they did that, they'd be worse off. Women would stay away from them entirely and they would drown in their misery just to lash out one more time before they end their own lives.
@@07Flash11MRChonestly it’s a coin flip but to say that women “stay away” from this type of man is a disingenuous response coming from you being offended. If they are attractive and have decent income it doesn’t really matter how “misogynistic” they are the women will come.
The other half will end themselves but that still leaves women with “male feminist” and “allies” which are usually the most dangerous and misogynistic of all as they are predators who prey on women’s vulnerability and need to feel vindication.
Just compare the police records of redpill dipshits to those of men who build platforms pandering to women all day, SA, Grape and DV galore among you types.
I fell for the alt right pipeline thanks to youtube sending me a million ben shapiro videos, I was so alone and I didn't get to make friends in college. I'm still alone and I've had to re educate myself on pretty much every topic imaginable as I was so wrong in everything, and I found out I am bi during this. It doesn't help that I literally live on a mountain in the middle of nowhere and I have to drive 30 minutes to get to the nearest city, it feels like there is no hope in job opportunities let alone friendships. I am seeing therapy finally after I tried ending recently so I'm hoping medication and therapy will help me do something with my life.
A mountain in the middle of nowhere sounds like paradise, except for the isolation. Beware, that medication is not as helpful as what YOU put into your life! Be well & good luck!
Hang in there!
Although I have no personal experience, I've heard online friendships can (slowly) become fulfilling. But it's hard. Wishing you well.
Props bro for getting out of it and more prompts for admitting your mistakes! It’s not an easy thing to do 💪
You got this dude. From my experience, going out and making some new friends changed my world for the better, after I drifted away from my high school friends. There were a few years that f*cking sucked, but if you put yourself out there it gets better.
I don’t know if you’ll read this, but the fact that you always have action items at the end of your videos fills me with so much hope. The thought of someone getting up and doing those little things that might make society better just… amazing.
Thank you for your amazing work and journalism.
Great video on a difficult topic. These groups are so weird. I dislike how a "real man" needs to do this, that and the other thing in order to be masculine or only certain jobs, vehicles and fashions are manly. Some of these "men" tell me I have a "girls' job" because I am a teacher.
They almost got me when I was in my early 20s
I 46m tell my son 11, "How you feel is never wrong; it's what you do about it that can be a problem."
Many of us (whatever gender) have been doing the absolute worst thing about what we feel.
They see actions of their fathers. Words really have no impact when you are doing opposite
As a trans woman i grew up with all my classmates being honestly douchebags and treating girls in class like nothing more than a patch you can stick to your backpack. i always saw it as just unacceptable behavior (though a few of the girls had it coming because they were horrible to everyone for no reason)
when i finally had it figured out that i was trans i legit felt a deep pain in my stomach because of how i nearly fell into all that same hopelessly macho shit. every single time i look at my past I'm wounded because of how much horrible shit happened around me and i did nothing to stop it...
imagine my pain seeing that shit infecting my only safe haven that is the digital world. For every sneako and tate i hope there's a million more fighting to end all this utter shit that seeks to drag not only america but canada and mexico maybe even the world at large back into the fucking dark ages
Well said, and I'm really happy for you! I still don't think those girls in your class deserved it though. No one deserves to be objectified or seen as less than just because they're jerks. That might be some more stuff to unpack. All the best to you and your journey, fellow queer friend!
Where did you go to high school? Haha
@@beanpasteposts Thank you for adding this. "She deserved it" (what: to be objectified? hurt? humiliated?) because you didn't like her is very problematic thinking. That's already the default mindset we have in society. When women get harassed, assaulted, pushed out of their jobs, mocked, vilified - "she deserved it".
We have to stop denying the emotional differences between women and men. Therapy does not work on men the same way. I have male friends in therapy and they have told me it is often unproductive. Men's emotional needs are different and we have stop denying that. Expecting men to feel and think like women is what fuels the manosphere. The patriarchy is largely supported by women also. Generally, the most attractive women go for the most toxic men or the richest men. Let's acknowledge that there is fault to go around for this situation. I say this as a non-white man who doesn't have issues with women. For those who don't know.. one of the easiest ways to make a man hate you is to tell him to change something about himself. This is another way the psychology of men is different (generally). Men go where they are celebrated, they don't change for the good of the group like women do (again.. generally).
Exactly, and unlike the propaganda spouted in this video, there's data to prove it. The top 5% of men on dating apps get something like 50% of the matches. In other words, what works when trying to build a relationship with women is not equality, kindness, intelligence or any of the crap that this video goes on about. It's status and looks and money. Women's behavior created the manosphere and now, of course, they blame men for it. Classic.
i really hope all the commenters in this video are doing ok. rooting for y'all
I'm Ashkenazi Jew. I'm only alive because my great-grandparents managed to escape a Nazi death camp in northern Poland.
I showed my mother a video of those fucking psychos shouting "Jews will not replace us". The look of horror that fell over her face was immeasurable. She nearly collapsed and started sobbing, and started telling my brother and I about all the stories her grandmother told her as a child, the signs of change across society, and she saw it all right there in that video clip.
While I realize it was important that she knew of what was happening I regret having shown her that clip - her already-present anxiety increased dramatically to the point that she rarely even leaves the house now, and spends most of her time in front of the TV or online reading the news.
As a proud Marine I love my country. But I fucking *HATE* the people that are controlling it now.
How did they escape the death camp?
Controlling it now? You hate Biden?
Yeah, it might have been an idea to have spared her that.
You are a Marine, but yet against Trump?? How can this be? You didn't learn anything from being around those real men in the Marines?
I'm starting to think all of us have to be crazy enthusiastic lovers of Jewish people to counteract these issues, is that problematic/cringe? I feel so bad about these things and I hate nazis so much and Jewish people have contributed so much historically/culturally 😭
As a man undergoing therapy, mostly for the horrificly toxic way my parents brought me up, I can say that therapy is the best solution by far. It helped me realize my true potential, out things in order for myself (including me), and severely mitigated my feelings of inadequacy and desperation. It was truly a blessing and I recommend it to everyone, especially other men. I had a friend complain to me recently how he feels isolated and lonely, with no one taking genuine interest in him, and I decided to start communicating and hanging out with him more. That seems like a healthier way to overcome issues than sifting through online boards filled with disconnected views.
How much doesn't your therapy cost
I'm a transgender man who came out at 14, and has been out for a decade, so I have insight into both sides of the coin.
Women have much closer relationships with each other than men do, bc men are taught that hugging other men, being vulnerable at all, ect, is gay and feminine, and also that both of those things are bad to be as a man. While I came out as transgender at 14, it took me another 7 years to be comfortable as a gay man, bc even trans men get this bullshit pushed on their shoulders.
So no, men are not okay, and I dread to think how not okay straight cisgender men are, bc they're taught that bullshit from an early age, and don't always get the chance to rethink what they've been taught.
A lot of cishet men have it violently drilled into them as children, it's built into a lot of our PTSD
As a man, I have to agree with other men here. We weren't taught feelings. We were taught men don't cry. Men are stoic. Men provide. Men never, ever, ever talk about anything that might bring a tear to our eyes. It's ridiculous, but it's how society has taught us. I haven't done that with my own son. I encourage him to be vulnerable, to never ignore his feelings, and to value empathy. When, he is finally an adult, he will be a better man than I could ever hope to be.
I have always felt that world war 2 ruined a generation of men. They came back home traumatized, numb, and battle hardened, and passed that on to our parents etc. Of course, that ultra "hardass" attitude is not something that is particularly healthy or even normal for that matter, we just got used to it.
No self respecting man would teach his off spring to be vulnerable. You're setting him up for failure, good going you fool
Yes but dud you also teach discipline, the importance of being strong, how to take care of himself, how to form bonds and so on
@@deannamarie3746 I think that's a ridiculous generalization, with no evidence at all to support it.
@@leobigelow7021 Nah, you're just mad the shoe fit in your case. Get some therapy.
I was recently shown a 45 minute presentation against Misogyny and it seems that one reason that the main cause is men trying to assume womens opinions in general as a general rule without even speaking to women, it was mostly about incels and you would see it thinking: how do people not realise that one way to identify what a woman, or anyone for that matter, thinks is to speak to them. Shocking right?
Lol we have the real housewives and the Kardashians, I think we hear enough.
@@nicholaselder2546You think those represent a majority of working class women?
@@nicholaselder2546I'm a woman and wouldn't watch such shit
Women made them billionaires, so I guess so. @@grmpEqweer
A lot of these young men are terrified of talking to women. At their core they're just scared, lonely school kids who want to ask someone out but are afraid of being laughed at or called gross or creepy. So they turn into a social porcupine and decide to start shaming the others first before the others shame them. "Just talk to women" seems like an obvious and easy answer but for a lot of those young men, whether incels or just normal lonely kids, it might as well be "just stop being anxious" for how impossible it feels for them.
I am a man, and I am doing okay. Thank you. Despite unemployment, financial struggles, and communication issues with my spouse, I still have a supportive family and friends network. Believe me, it helps...a lot!
i'm sorry about the financial struggles and unemployment, I hope things turn around for you and your family
You don't have a loneliness problem my friend you have a financial problem
Send 10 Job Applications per day or start your own business if you live in the middle of nowhere. Use your hobby to do business.
As a lawyer can you explain why Domestic violence against men, sexual assault against men, rape or made to penetrate rape against men is not treated the same way by US law as it does to women victims? Btw why doesn't women date down or marry down like men?
11:42 - Ok, now that's just off the mark. Sex was not nearly as available back in the 1950s. You can have sex with just about any woman today. There was nothing like that in the 50s. Pre birth control. Lots of marriages because someone was pregnant. Before abortion rights. You just need to edit that assertion out!
I was 22 years old and just went through a shitty break up. My dad's best friend says "Women are like buses...as soon as you get off one, another one pulls up"
It was in that moment that I realized what kind of man I did NOT want to be.
Edit: Yes, Leeja. I am a 38 year old straight, white male, who works in construction and lives in a pretty "red" area. And I am a dedicated viewer. What I see from many men around me is ridiculous. It's like they never matured past 14. This is why they are such lonely, angry people.
I'm sure the ladies are lining up for you!
“Never matured past 14” is so accurate.
What advice did you want to hear, at 22 years old.. 'lament on this for the rest of your life kid'?
@@sacksis I completely agree she does a lot of generalizing and then proceeded to say men are bad and need help, but she fails to realize that not all men are like this I do agree with Tate on certain topics like both men and women should be less sexually promiscuous, and that men find a feeling of belongings when working out to going to they're job it gives us a sense of purpose same to be the provider, a man without a family can feel without purpose and it leads to self harm and in some cases harm to others. So as much as people hate Tate I rather people look up to him on views of responsibility, self improvement, and overall just being a better you
@@russell-gt1dy I would tell em suck it up it'll happen again until you find the right one
I'm not from the USA but I think these problems do exists where I live. Men are taught about their gender role by the society, and has to act certain ways in order to be recognised as "manly". Some acts like being vulnerable, sharing feelings, being in touch with your emotions, etc are considered feminine and not manly, therefore it's really difficult to start these kinds of conversations. Most of them would just deflect such questions when they feel like they have to be vulnerable, and so it's exhausting, even felt hollow when talking to them. It's a whole different story when talking to women, most are more open to these conversations, and are more empathetic. Men are trapped and lonely because of this patriarchal society. Unfortunately this patriarchal society is being uphold by both men and women, at least where I am living.
Keep your foreign poison to yourself.
In my experience it's the opposite, men are ore vulnerable and women are more closed off
I don't hide my emotions because I think it's manly, I hide it because I'm a very negative person and I know people don't like that
Us men are not ok but like you said I have a therapist and we work on stuff together. A lot of it to me seems to be unlearning toxic traits we have all been taught exemplify masculinity and finding space for love and compassion rather than just anger into the void
Using the word "toxic" is a bad omen.
@@rustyshackleford1465 ok toxic schizo.
The world is going to hell in a basket!
My male friends and I frequently check in on each other and ask how we're doing or feeling. After we hang out we'll dap each other up and tell each other that we love and care about them. Last year I went through a divorce and ended a separate emotional relationship. I realized there were many things I needed to work on because I was not doing okay. While I've been in therapy for most of my life, events from last year (and even this year) turbo-charged my progress, and while I know there's still a lot to work on, I'm so proud of the positive changes I've made along the way. I really feel for guys out there who don't have many close friends or feel as though they can't open up and be vulnerable.
Emotional cheating, tsk tsk.
@@sarahrobertson634 Sorry, what do you mean by that?
@@bluenitriletouch2842 You mentioned a separate emotional relationship, which I would presume is code for having an emotional affair simultaneous to the marriage.
@@sarahrobertson634 Ahhh I didn't explain this well during my initial comment. I meant "emotional" more so as an adjective to describe the relationship I had later on (and tbh I could have picked a better word/way to describe it). But I did not have an emotional affair.
@@bluenitriletouch2842 Well that's good.
A little something to note. As someone who struggles with dating in general, I get bouts of loneliness and isolation too.
But alt-wrong politics only works to further bring you further away from having genuine and long lasting friendships. The more you take, the less you have.
The thing is, your message might reach a lot of people and they might change for the better for it. But that won't change the outliers. And that's the real problem that this video ultimately gets to. There are probably many thousands of men in this situation. Out of those many of thousands, only a few will become the extremists that actually go out on a shooting spree of women or whatever. Those few will never be reached by a video like this, or comments like yours, or whatever. Ultimately a video like this and anything else like it, won't stop this stuff.
@@websurvivor it wont. Extremists are not going to accept concepts as nuanced as exploring themselves and becoming better people. They won't do it because they are fueled by their emotions in the heat of it. They are just going to do what they do no matter how radical or illegal it is. Thats why they wont get what they desire unless they take it for themselves.
@websurvivor you do realize that is not the point of this video right? She isn't trying to "stop this from happening." she is just commenting on it
@Xenocore got to be honest, my sympathy for these guys can only go so far
@@mr.dirtydan3338 not sure I understood the first part?
No.