That didn't stop the Hammerklavier sonata, Gaspard de la Nuit, the Paganini Variations, or several of the late and barely tonal Scriabin sonatas from becoming standard repertoire and all these works are substantially more difficult. Chopin's 3rd piano sonata is also harder yet also one of his most widely recorded and performed works.
This piece is said to be revived by the "Spanish Chopin", aka Enrique Granados. In fact Granados Op 46 is also Allegro de Concierto, thus dedicated to Chopin.
This was thought to be the first movement of a concerto that he ultimately decided not to go through with. It's also low-key one of the most, if not the most difficult Chopin piece.
Arrau's earlier transversal is hands down the greatest recording of this, though I also like the Ashkenazy for different reasons, his sensibilities are more classical.
Its an amazing piece. The theme that starts around the 4 min mark is one of Chopins most beautiful moments. Crazy how little appreciated Allegro De Concert is.
Thanks you. This and Op. 52 are my favorites pieces of all time. This pieces is almost jazz. I love this one. Is like an orchestra. I love to play the Op. 46 :D It deserves everything. I actually think this is the hardest pieces by Chopin. Those bars with rapid descending thirds and stuff are insane and pulling out the melody line over a second voice, like the Op. 10 No. 3, having that distance between notes is crazy. Btw, listen Arrau playing this. Is soooooo - 6:18 is literally one of my favorite moments in music history.
One of my favourite Chopin works, and one which I've played myself many years ago. It's not due to its difficulty level that this is largely ignored as the 2nd and 3rd piano sonatas are both more difficult. This is probably somewhere around the level of Ballade no.4 or the Polonaise-Fantaisie (the latter of which I've also learned) and they're some of his most widely performed works. It's very cheerful in nature but never gets frivolous and contains some very impressive displays of virtuoso firework. Far harder pieces on the standard repertoire are recorded umpteen times. Take Schumann's Symphonic Etudes, Brahms' Paganini Variations, the Hammerklavier Sonata and the Diabelli Variations by Beethoven, Schubert's Wanderer-Fantasie etc. Or probably the most scary standard repertoire work of them all, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. Even plenty of second rate pianists have done CD recordings of these works.
Come on, man you seem like a real person who are interested in this music (some content you upload is actually interesting), but the AI-generated voice that talks in your videos in conjunction with the SEO/Viral optimized titles of your videos makes me wonder about your intentions...
This piece is wonderful. The problem is as a solo work you have to play a second piano part for 4/11 minutes which is not convincing for the pianist or the audience. I've actually devoted a large portion of my life to this work - wrote my dissertation in 2017 on it and orchestrated it for orchestra and piano. If anyone is interested, please see: ua-cam.com/video/USoINjJGjp0/v-deo.htmlsi=OKsTS2-tqAL9QTVd
Glad someone discusses this great piece...but please, so many mispronounced words! "de concert" is in French, "concerto" has a ch sound and not an s, Polish and polish are not the same, and even Ashkenazy was not pronounced correctly, among others.
@@StevenOtto but talking about the structure of the ballade 3, it introduce 3 themes and combine it at last. It's one of the most innovative structures ever used by Chopin's, plus it's in major, the coda is sounds so passionate.
I wouldn't say that... At Chopin time Op 2 was the piece that really started Chopin career. After hearing it Robert Schumann said the famous words "Hats off gentlemen, a genius!"
I can appreciate this piece for what it is but its just....too much for me? At least in the concertos you can recognize themes this feels so all over the place. I tried giving it a chance
Anyway, I find that conserto is alright, it's just the english pronunciation... I am Italian, and a looot of other italian therms are mispronounced by even great pianists and important figures, and I don't think that's annoying... Not everyone speaks Italian.
Beautiful video! It's really a shame we don't hear about this work much often, truly a hidden gem. Keep up the good work, bro!
I remember reading that this was one of the pieces he was really proud of, which wasn't common for him.
Oh, I was in the first minute of the video when I commented this, looks like you covered it.
@@dunkleosteus430I did ahahaha
That piece is crazy, maybe it's not recognized by it's high difficult level
That didn't stop the Hammerklavier sonata, Gaspard de la Nuit, the Paganini Variations, or several of the late and barely tonal Scriabin sonatas from becoming standard repertoire and all these works are substantially more difficult. Chopin's 3rd piano sonata is also harder yet also one of his most widely recorded and performed works.
This piece is said to be revived by the "Spanish Chopin", aka Enrique Granados. In fact Granados Op 46 is also Allegro de Concierto, thus dedicated to Chopin.
I like Granados, and both "op 46"s
I've been a Chopin listener for over a decade and I thought I know all of his pieces... until now. Thank you for sharing!
Yes, thought I knew all his pieces...
You should check version played by Michael Ponti with orchestration. Amazing.
@@MaslAlek It took me a minute to remember the name of the orchestrator: Kazimierz Wilkomirski . Yes, that recording by Ponti is masterful.
This was thought to be the first movement of a concerto that he ultimately decided not to go through with. It's also low-key one of the most, if not the most difficult Chopin piece.
hey there :D
@@annulrsolformrkelse4023 Hey!
I find it easier to sightread than his 1st concerto, but I can see how there’s more room for slip ups
Arrau's earlier transversal is hands down the greatest recording of this, though I also like the Ashkenazy for different reasons, his sensibilities are more classical.
It’s one hell of a piece. Definitely one of the hardest solo pieces along with Op.2
A channel about chopin? Amazing. My favourite artist from all times. Suscribed and I wish this channel grows
This one feels like a 'I am making sure you have played my whole set of études' piece.
Its an amazing piece. The theme that starts around the 4 min mark is one of Chopins most beautiful moments. Crazy how little appreciated Allegro De Concert is.
Thanks you. This and Op. 52 are my favorites pieces of all time. This pieces is almost jazz. I love this one. Is like an orchestra. I love to play the Op. 46 :D It deserves everything. I actually think this is the hardest pieces by Chopin. Those bars with rapid descending thirds and stuff are insane and pulling out the melody line over a second voice, like the Op. 10 No. 3, having that distance between notes is crazy.
Btw, listen Arrau playing this. Is soooooo -
6:18 is literally one of my favorite moments in music history.
Great video! I look forward to watching other videos like this one.
Great video! There is also a Neuhaus recording that I like a lot.
@@Martill3 thanks! I'll check it out
Well, Chopin's quote that he was going to perform it in "free Warsow" only testifies to the heroic character of its March-like theme.
One of my favourite Chopin works, and one which I've played myself many years ago. It's not due to its difficulty level that this is largely ignored as the 2nd and 3rd piano sonatas are both more difficult. This is probably somewhere around the level of Ballade no.4 or the Polonaise-Fantaisie (the latter of which I've also learned) and they're some of his most widely performed works. It's very cheerful in nature but never gets frivolous and contains some very impressive displays of virtuoso firework.
Far harder pieces on the standard repertoire are recorded umpteen times. Take Schumann's Symphonic Etudes, Brahms' Paganini Variations, the Hammerklavier Sonata and the Diabelli Variations by Beethoven, Schubert's Wanderer-Fantasie etc. Or probably the most scary standard repertoire work of them all, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. Even plenty of second rate pianists have done CD recordings of these works.
Chopin was musically superior than any other of his time. He didn’t need any other instrument as he mastered the piano as an instrument
please do a video on his cello sonata, his late period masterpiece that is seldom talked about on YT.
It’s not a bad piece, I have thought about playing it but just like his piano sonatas, they’re are so musically complicated
Actually I think every work by Chopin is sublime
Maybe not as great as his most greatest works
But they deserve to be read and play
YES THE ALLEGRO DE CONCERT WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Brian Ganz’s performance is also lovely!
He plays with such passion
Very good video!
It's better that way, kept in the shadows. Good music can only be recognized by few ears, and even less well understood by the more blessed ones
Come on, man you seem like a real person who are interested in this music (some content you upload is actually interesting), but the AI-generated voice that talks in your videos in conjunction with the SEO/Viral optimized titles of your videos makes me wonder about your intentions...
I always thought why this piece is so underrated, but it's so difficult tho.
This piece is wonderful. The problem is as a solo work you have to play a second piano part for 4/11 minutes which is not convincing for the pianist or the audience. I've actually devoted a large portion of my life to this work - wrote my dissertation in 2017 on it and orchestrated it for orchestra and piano. If anyone is interested, please see: ua-cam.com/video/USoINjJGjp0/v-deo.htmlsi=OKsTS2-tqAL9QTVd
Thumbs down for clearly AI generated pronunciations.
What is the painting at 03:00?
Bernardo Bellotto - View of Warsaw from the Royal Castle
very cool
Glad someone discusses this great piece...but please, so many mispronounced words! "de concert" is in French, "concerto" has a ch sound and not an s, Polish and polish are not the same, and even Ashkenazy was not pronounced correctly, among others.
Ballade 3 is so underrated also
Horowitz's interpretation is absolutely amazing. Rarely can you make Chopin sound "thunderous" appropriately, and he absolutely did
It's really not. It's the Ballade 2 that gets the least recognition and fewest performances in that category of Chopin's works.
@@StevenOtto but talking about the structure of the ballade 3, it introduce 3 themes and combine it at last. It's one of the most innovative structures ever used by Chopin's, plus it's in major, the coda is sounds so passionate.
In my opinion, op. 2 is his most underrated piece, although this one is a close second.
I wouldn't say that... At Chopin time Op 2 was the piece that really started Chopin career.
After hearing it Robert Schumann said the famous words "Hats off gentlemen, a genius!"
@@Alessandro.h Yes, that was then, but nowadays nobody really knows it and it is rarely played.
Wow, I really hear there a background orchestra sometimes in my head. Maybe I'll make a real orchestration, but i'm a bit bad at this stuff I think
Check out the one by Kazimierz Wilkomirski The soloist is Michael Ponti, and it was released on Volume 1 of a Vox Box set of Romantic Piano Concertos.
I can appreciate this piece for what it is but its just....too much for me? At least in the concertos you can recognize themes this feels so all over the place. I tried giving it a chance
Out of mastery...
Conserto? What is this? Ballade pronounced as ballad?
Yeah the pronunciation is off-putting. It doesn't make any sense except in French
Ah. It's likely an automated voice read. It's also a "polish composer" instead of "Polish composer" at 2:14
voice is ai generated
@@seheytAhaha I didn't even notice that one about Polish composer
Anyway yes, the AI voice has some really strange pronunciation sometimes
Anyway, I find that conserto is alright, it's just the english pronunciation...
I am Italian, and a looot of other italian therms are mispronounced by even great pianists and important figures, and I don't think that's annoying... Not everyone speaks Italian.
The narration must be AI generated.
It is not, the voice is AI but the narration is 100% human
@@Alessandro.hwhat do you mean the voice is AI but the narration is human, they’d mean the same here. Do you mean the text is written by a human?
@@mbashirov1 yep, I mean the text is written by human
Sounds like Beethoven.
Neew suuub
I refuse to see anything about Chopin when his name is pronounced Tsopain
@@zerm120 AHAHAHHA not my fault, sorry
The pronunciation of the voiceover sucks. Couldn’t get through this video as a result. DO BETTER
Conserto? BALLad? Polish pronounced Pawlish? What is the matter with this narrator. Robot?
Great information -- terrible AI voice/pronunciation.
Ce n'est pas un grand chef-d'œuvre, tout simplement.
Its Chopins most boring unmemorable peice
Then explain why it is memorable to me😂
You're entitled to your opinion, but I think it's both philistine and baseless to an absurd degree.