Inside The Black Market of RuneScape Services
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Today I Interviewed RuneScape black market service providers. This video covers everything they told me. They offer their services on OSRS and RS3 alike. We talked about how much they are making from their RuneScape services, how they got into OSRS services, what types of things they do for players within RuneScape and how much they are making from these RuneScape activities.
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Has Jagex contacted you yet?
Nope, though sometimes I wonder what they would think about these videos
I just hope that they wouldn''t take you down :(
Me too that's one real fear I have. I suppose silentcore made a lot of similar videos and his are all still up though
I added you on discord :) Dalek Sek #2251
Lol Tina from the gold farming site offering better live customer service chat than Jagex.
this is true.
where can one find this... tina person..
@@speedy3015 if you need to buy gold I can help you
This is kinda common practice. Let me try to explain the best I can. If you a company like Dell you have a well know pretty trusted name. So people already have so type of faith in you allowing your customer service to be shit but still make sales. When you are a rune scape gold selling site or any third-party site that does business that violates a games ToS those business are normally labeled as less trustworthy (I'm sure we have all heard the I was scammed horror stories by now). So when you do have a question they want to to seem as professional as possible to make you feel more at ease with the purchase of a service from them.
@@kyle3077 you are the smartest person I've had the honour of not meeting.
this is kinda like an ad for them. might increase their sales
Which is their incentive to wanna tell their story.
I'm sold
100%
Need more publicity in the OSRS community for decent farmers/xp grinders
Why he should be banned.
Advertising real world trading.
But jagex makes an exception for content creatoes, unless youre "a FRIEND"
You should have interviewed Torvesta for this, he does it on a daily basis.
Ravlar RS what does torvesta do ?
Lmaoo got em!
I think he did mage arena 2 on one of the accounts he used. Apart from that, nothing. Probably just a joke about him using a bunch of different accounts.
You do realize he borrows the accounts and doesn't buy them lmao?
The joke is he gets youtube money from all the different accounts, not that he's rwt, but account sharing is still reportable lol
Latvia and Lithuania are 2 different things. :D
I'm Lithuanian myself, and yes... people work for 340 euros a month.. luckily I have a decent job and I do earn 700, but it's nothing special compared to other countries.
I moved from Estonia to France and the minumum wage here is around 1300. Basic welfare 550+300 for rent, so yeah... Don't really have to work if you don't want to here :D
Lmao I work for 350 euros a month in Croatia, mininum wage
2500€ at construction site at Finland.
Tai Lung you earn 400-500 euros if you are uneducated and work a shit minimum wage job
Sending the ID is not too risky. It's used for protection from the worker in case they want to scam so they are less likely to scam. Gold selling websites do this as well.
Thank you for allowing me to be part of your project Crumb, I hope you the best of luck with your future ones too!
Thank you for answering my questions. (: I wouldn't have been able to make a video around this subject without you and Jr. Cheers man!
Dbuffed Gaming what is the forums name?
Dbuffed is a pussy destroyer ~Nino
how much would it be for you to do like half of the quests just wondering cus i hate questing i wont have the gp for it tho xd
Hi there, it would vary on what quests are required.
the guy needing his employees IDs makes total sense. Any other employer would ask for a copy of your ID. Its so they can verify that they are who they say they are, this is really important if any legal issues come up. If he didnt have their ID, they could be a child and that would violate child labor laws and probably many other rules from the apps that the money would be transferred over. I would be more surprised if he didnt require it to be honest. they have to enter a contract and a contract made with anyone under the age of 18 is void, so its necessary info.
We also handle many types of payments, this being that my workers sometimes take them and also have me accept them on their behalf or send payments to me and so on too. Anything from what you said all the way to money issues such as charge backs/fraud.
Fuck yeah bro! I’m glad these interviews are blowing up bro!!
Thanks man
Really interesting, thank you - it’s nice to see the outer/inner workings of what’s going on in the game
Sending a photo of your ID to a random guy on the internet isn't nearly as bad as having 100 times more information open to anybody at all on your Facebook profile
As someone who has done business with dbuffed i can confirm he is a great guy and services arent the only things he does
Text: "Latvia"
Crumb: "This guy from Lithuania"
Me, a Lithuanian: "REEEEEEEE"
You should interview a developer from a private server. You don't have to mention names of the server or anything so no one gets a free advertisement but it would definitely be interesting to see what they have to say.
Jd0gIsMe one Developer made 100k a month i forgot what server it wa s i think ikov or alora not quite sure. But you gotta make a prviate server because you love to code and be a good creator u cant have a mind set that you're gonna make thousands cause chances are you wont if you dont care about the server.
they make bank, I won a 800$ pc from a private server lol
@@superbgaming8063 nah. Those servers are still around today... If the guy made 100k a month jagex would've sued him and his future generations... 100k is a fuck ton of money... Don't know where you heard that bs lol
@@shak9558 it is entirely possible that he made 100k, it becomes illegal when the money gained is used for yourself. They have an agreement, much like a lot of game with private server, no money can be profited off of for personal use, only funding for ads and uptime.
@@shak9558 however, there are very few servers that would be able to make that much. Less than 10
"Legitly" train ur acc. Lol keep in mind nothing stops the random guy on the internet from using a bot when he gets lazy. Doubt theres a moneyback guarantee if u get banned 😂
Some service providers actually do ensure that.
No one is botting your accounts though, at least not under my services, although there have been a lot of people who do bot and such. Just because there are bots able to be used (the websites provide them etc) it doesn't mean we actually do use them.
Because then your credibility gets lost and now no one will trust you. You won't get any new jobs.
Dbuffed Gaming hmmm what’s your website
Dbuffed Gaming yeah the trust system makes sense.
Eyyy my boy dbuffed. Just a heads up though, he's extremely small scale compared to what most of us do.
Dbuff use to run a Facebook page that he did this stuff on. Glad to see him doing good for himself.
He’s perm banned now
Still do :)
These guys has better "HR" than majority of my jobs that I had.
Been a member/worker of the black market for a long time. Botted back when nexus and rsbuddy were things and started gold farming when OSRS came out. I can verify that most of the things in this video are true. I've even personally worked with Dbuffed even though it went awry. Just a tip from a veteran though: I recommend never botting on any website or commissioning anyone to do anything on your account no matter how trusted they are. I've seen the most "trusted" of people scam quit for thousands of dollars, similar to what A Friend did: once they're done with runescape they'll cash out.
Agreed man. I don't think anyone should use these services regardless, it breaks Runescape tos
This is the quality of content I've been needing. Thank you, Crumb; subscribed.
Glad to here thanks a lot man (:
why do you make it sound like a vice episode in the title
9:13 It's A Friend
I say that just stop playing the game if you don't like it enough to play it yourselfs
I really love this series! It's coming along very nicely!
Thanks man
Runescape is a crazy place
Mind blowing. Thanks for this content, this actually useful in social, economy and game theory research. You should add this tags to your video.
We're glad you enjoyed.
"Latvia"
*LITHUANIA*
I used to do this in 2007 but not on regular basis.
I have actually done this quite a bit in the past. I made about 2m per hour doing the stuff (with my prices cheaper than Dbuffed) and made about 20m per week with maybe 10% of the customers that Dbuffed got. Also, in my experience people temporarily remove authenticators when they pay for services.
If you're curious the most I ever made for a single order was 50m when I took a brand new account, did tutorial island, then did all the skills and quests required for Zulrah and power leveled to 75 range and mage.
20m per week lmfao, you were not even close to 10% bro.
wtf only 50m for zulrah ready account?
It says latvia and u say Lithuania :D
they are 2 difrent countries :p
Rip misread that in my defense they are right next to each other
It's grind my gears as lithuanian to hear you think we not getting payed enough. Because it's damn true LMAO
ye im from Estonia :P i feel ya
märkasin ka :D
Even if it's against the rules i don't really think it's a problem as long as it's not for copmetetive purposes like highscore.
I'd never not do something myself but i can see why some people would.
This isn't actually RWT, is it? Account sharing is no longer bannable and he's being paid in gp, not real money. There's no trading of real-world items or currency, so there's no RWT.
People do it cause they suck at the game 😂
Man, I feel you.
I have so many friends who want to play, but working 40+ hours a week limits their XP grind so much they can't justify playing, because its so tedious.
We all wanted to do Raids together, but they've all but quit at this point. Feels bad, man.
Good video, really interesting even though I dont play this game no more.
I kinda respect debuffed his service he is really honest
Glad you think so, we try to keep it as easy and honest as possible.
THATS LATVIA NOT LITHUANIA
That guy was from Latvia like me but you said Lithuania that really upsets me.
Latvia and Lithuania are not the same
No they are the same
Pleb country
you noobs
sjw
Holy shit this is wild, I remember back in the day when Dbuff was on a Facebook page and I actually talked to em pretty often. Crazy to hear that he’s still around. Much less he’s in a UA-cam video and doing fucking good. If you see this bro. Keep it up 😂😂
Hi Brandon yes I'm still here xd even now!
@@DbuffedGaming
Keep up the wonderful work, actually watching you got me to start playing again =)
Thanks man I'm glad to hear! (:
Wtf are those fire cape prices?! You can buy them for $17 USD on a pure with low range. 😭😭😭
because there is a script for it
@4:14 rip maxed account
Amaatje thats the guys forum name not ign name
not sketchy at all, I sold millions worth of gold over 2015-2016 getting ID for certain payment methods was a MUST
80/20 split is great, dont see anything wrong with it
"He took some cautions with his workers"... PRECAUTIONS
I found my new job....
Edit: finished the video.....$780 a month. Nah. Lol
That would be a minimum on a average week/month, you can make much more but it varies on speed/efficiency.
Jeff Parker shoulda done name sniping before they fixed it. Was making more than these slave tier services simply botting on a pc. Although you had to pay attention every now and then. Good times I miss sythe and the ez money
People outside of this black market are willing to pay more.
that is 3 times the minimum salary in my country, literally working 40 hours a week would get you around 250 dollars working the whole month here (converted) so yeah, i understand these people, while my country is bad it's not nearly as broke as Venezuela for instance, so a runescape worker in there must be living the dream
*TLDR: I know the ins and outs of Chinse gold farming pretty well. Not bad money for China.* The money is not that bad, considering the people who do it. I used to know a Chinese WoW gold farmer quite well. My Dad, who is wealthy, used to play WoW with me back in WotLK. Whether you play WoW or not, that is 08-2012ish. Because he had the money but not the time to play, he would buy in-game gold, he estimates he probably has bought about $25,000 USD of WoW gold. (Yes, he spent $25K, of REAL money.) The gold farmer he used became a personal friend of him, added him on Facebook, she went by the name of Angel. She was actually quite nice, added me as a friend in-game as well, would give us tons of free shit in addition to paid services. Because my dad spent bought so much shit, Angel asked for my dad to go through her directly. Later on Angel became her own company, and actually became a CEO of a popular of a gold farming and gaming boosting company. When we became close she disclosed that the gold farming profession in China mainly is like working in a call-center in the US. It is not an uncommon profession because it is needed and it is nothing more than sitting at a PC and grinding. It can be done by lowly skilled laborers and by people who don't have higher-ed degrees so people go into it.
I find it interesting that there first off all are people who get paid to play a game, and second that there are people that pay to not play a game.
man i remember when i played runescape in 2007 and stopped at 2009 still like watching these type of videos tho
Gald to hear you like them man!
Honestly I hate quests so much I’d do this.
Mate, Latvia and Lithuania aren't as poor and poverty stricken as you think.
People in Lithuania complain how poor they are and have like 2 cars and own a house.
shurdi3 prolly, but average wage is 733€/month? Even less in lithuania.
733 euro a month is not a bad wage considering the price of living in lithuania
That explains there are loads of Latvian people working over here in Belgium.
Actually a really interesting video dude. Keep doing more of these types. Maybe interview someone who does infernos or something
thanks one of the best rs videos i have seen.. subbed
How much were you paid to make this video promotion?
I wasn't lol, hence why the websites are all censored. People are so quick to jump. Not a Mr Bug scandal
ahh ok, and I was talking about the fact that you focused so much on one particular account lvling service and even went into detail of why he is legit mentioning his name multiple times.
Just look at most of his r ecent vids, they mainly revolve around scandalous acts on runescape. People enjoy these a lot, cool to see this kind of stuff
I interview who comes to me. Only had two people contact me who do RuneScape services. I would gladly do more, but you work with what you got. Just giving the facts, I wouldn't recommend any of these services. I think there's a high chance of getting hacked, or having your account botted on. Plus it violates ToS, resulting in account banned. I'm just following the trend of videos that is doing well on my channel. I'm sorry it came across that way.
@oakdice Your site legit scamms people so dont even talk about him gettin paid or whatever. I have proofs that your workers are stealing from you or its just a trick to bring more customers. :)
You know that 5% you promise that Ill get when a friend swaps? I didnt even get close to 2%. When I mentioned that the converstation is recorded, one worker called me again and told me to go and get some more money.
I run a bounty hunter service in which we have members of our forums and discord submit rsn and price and we have undercover players friend the player in question and try to lure them. Then we have a clan attack them all at once. Often times people will also put up streamers they do not like and they get streamed sniped.
I cant quite put my finger on it, but the line "love, peace and chicken grease" is sooo familiar, like znncz3 familiar XD
Love the vids man!
I fucking love your channel. Best creator ever since Alkan started nolifing RS3.
Its not Lithuania its Latvia! And the average pay here is something like 800euro so in no way does runescape make more a month... Looking at the fact that he can ''work'' for 16h a day it means its a student, not a normal worker.
"legitely... ITS LEGITIMATELY
Excellent videos! Love to hear about this stuff
Good content, was hoping to see u testing the services.
He is more than welcome to if he wishes.
Did anyone else know that Crumb performs Ram Ranch? Same exact accent
LOOOL I just looked that up, what the heck
Crumb - Its a legendary song
The days are long gone when you can legit say you have earned a 99 skill... This saddens me!
Dont be a virgin and grow up.
@@Exotic-P whats wrong being virgin?
It has always been this way, same with botting.
Dduffed it's your pal Will ;)
Hello William.
Just discovered your account and I love the content, subbed
9:11 BOI, BOI... I'M FROM LITHUANIA AND THAT CLEARLY SAYS LATVIA...
We both are in pain from that shit since I am Latvian myself
I remember when someone tricked me out of my account lmfaaaao good times he took all my gead
Probably was me back in the day. Sorry, giving 1m away for good karma,
Can't believe that Debuff have send him clips of working on that account ''crumb''. Insane..
Lmfao
Lol, that guy was from Latvia, not Lithuania, it's written RIGHT THERE: "LATVIA". And you can get 780$ in Latvia, working normal job, that's about the average. (oh, and i'm from LATVIA, so i know. :D )
Find a ddosser!! :D
We all do this for real tho who doesn't
uhh I don't.
Where u at I’m north jersey
I'm in long island, pull-up fuckboy
@@LuccianoNova I'm in between Suffolk and Nassau what's good boys let's beef
My boy crumb probily looks at his YT checks from the mail and be like “Ahh Feels good, not to have to do that I’m in 1st world country” 😂😂
The fact that Jr. keeps the gold to level up his accounts made me kinda sad
Are they doing as full time job?
No, I just ask that they do things in the time they can appropriately put in. i do not wish for someone to over-do themselves as I understand real life should always come first.
Dbuffed Gaming well im from lithuania i was making around 1k $ /month rs was my job for around year. Sadly mils price went down. And jagex removed some very profitable methods :(
Sorry to hear that, I don't expect the people who work with me on the service related stuff to treat this as full time, but if they want to I wont stop them.
10:14 I've lived in Michigan for two years now comfortably on 150 USD/ Month.
Git Gud Homie
How? I spend at least that per week on food and at least 300 a month on gas. Hell your living on my phone bill
@@professionalschizo because I prefer prime meats and fresh produce over the cheap stuff I'm wasteful? All scraps and leftovers go to the animals or compost nothing wasted I don't see a problem with enjoying good food. I have plenty of disposable income and aside from good food and lots of cars I'm still able to invest in rental properties and already own my home. If I'm wasteful so be it. I'm happy
@@professionalschizo not to mention cooking out for my friends and family (one of my favorite pass times) is very expensive. I grew up poor living on food stamps in income based housing. Getting to go to BBQs at our more well off friends houses and use their jet skis and dirt bikes and what not was the best. Now I'm that friend and we all have a great time. What's the point of making money if not to spend it?
@@professionalschizo yeah definitely far from humble I can be a dick sometimes. Sorry. I took your genuine curiosity as a put down on my spending habits and went off there my bad. Yeah I definitely know food can be cheap and my grocery bill varies. If my week consists of beans and rice and tortilla soup certainly I don't come near 150. But if I'm in the mood for seafood or steaks it can add up real fast. I can see budgeting and managing to ear a whole month on 150 but I really don't understand how that guy lives on 150 unless he doesn't have electricity water or a phone but he clearly has internet access so... Again sorry I need a muzzle sometimes.
Oh my word, I'd have minigamed your account all day....especially Conquest, I was one of the very top Conquest players for a long time.
Awesome video, it would be nice if you could make a video of some people who play runescape for a living (from poorer countries) and if it's better payed than working irl.
DBUFFED BELONGS IN VENEZUELA
Venezuelans play tibia!
Blac youngsta on a Runescape video, what is life
Awesome video. Keep it Up! (:👍👍
Thanks Bruce nice to see you around again!
this was acutally fascinating af, keep it up
Thanks man
"...and make the amount of money that they are actually making." 🤔
This vid started out ok but you rambling 5 min about how 'trustworthy' these ppl are, making me suspicious. If its not meant as an advertisement its a bad video otherwise, cause it feels like an ad. Like the idea tho
You are sort of right, as there are many scammers out there. Then again, Crumb also pointed out there are scammers, as well as spots you can report such people on, some of us have our names listed as trustworthy for these specific reasons as we aren't there to harm people.
I see what you're getting at but I disagree. Its more so giving background information about the business and what people like Dbuff and Jr are doing. Crumb has been very thorough about explaining things to the point where these videos feel like mini documentaries.
My bad man, I just though it was interesting how reputation works on these black markets. It's not a free for all like I first thought. I wasn't paid I promise you that, just following the recent trend of my videos. The next one I'll be more careful not to come across like that.
yeah i can only assume there's alot of shady stuff that goes happens in those forums like probably taking an account and the gold on it and just banning that person from the forums so they can't leave a negative review or something. i just wouldn't trust their word since so much rwt gold comes from hacked accounts.
Crumb ok, no problem! Its I am lightly familair with these sites and you telling me this stuff I know feels like an ad, but it is pretty correct yeah and I suppose for unknowingly players..
I've bought fire capes, totally worth it.
yep, if you cant do them why not :P
Very well made video. Pure quality
Thanks man
Can someone explain to me what showing your drivers license does to make it more secure ?
snefu 114 you can match a picture of the person to the license to verify they are who they say they are. My question is how can this be used maliciously like crumb said in the video?
Alexander G that still doesnt help, watch me photoshop up a few id's and be 50 different people, and it could be used to steal someones id..... How are you stuck on that one lol
so you can send bikies to their house to break their knees if they scam your customer
dox them
Alexander G nothing. You’d need a birth certificate and SSN to begin stealing someone’s identity.
i rather show him my id then show a cop
Real talk bro
I mean hey, i'm not going to give you a parking fine after all.
Great video, RS Documentary on an interesting topic!
Thanks man
the idea of multiple people working on a dope account makes more sense honestly .
Im so broke im bout to do this lmao
Hello there, it's a nice easy thing to get into ^_^
Latvias average income is a at 733€
RedOneMonster its almost 3x that here in the netherlands lol
average, why do you trust the average , the right term is median average. Well then don't apply to those shittier jobs then. Invest to education where the jobs at .
1. I don't even live in Latvia
2. I only commented for people to have a reference
3. Not everybody on this planet can afford education let alone not to work at those "shitty" jobs
somebodys gotta do it but in short term you would get out.
Well im not sure about that. To educate yourself you're gonna need money form somewhere, as you have to cover your living expenses and the educational costs and education isn't anything short term, its gonna take years until you reach your qualification. Im lucky enough not to be born in such a poor country.
Great stuff as usual keep it up crumb.
Thanks man! The positivity keeps me going
I love these videos. They are insanely interesting.
Lol, from Latvia xD Actualy it isnt so bad here. Propobly some teenager or dropout
Anderhils google says 733 euro/month average wage so lol. Not that good
Not that expensive to live there =). It's just more difficult to travel.
Tuition is very cheap too
''Actualy it isnt so bad here'' thats true.
so much sex traffic out there and estonia
I would never send my ID to that guy 😂 identity theft is something I definitely do not want happening to me
Starq I sold gold on these sketchy sites people send IDs like it’s nothing lmao
you would need to know your social insurance number lol
Love peace and chicken grease I say this too that’s amazing lmao! First video won’t be the last just for that statement alone mad respect there’s someone else out there 😂😂😂
Welfare gear. Damn that brings me back...
@ 2:47 leaks the account name of some random guy with 50bil bank gg
smaakmakend that's just a clip I found on UA-cam
lol thats wilson. he logged his merching progress on twitter/youtube for everyone to see
facepalm
whats his twitter/youtube?
@wilsonmanga
disliked bcz you sead Lithuania instead of Latvia. 9:10
Haha, 'from countries that typically don't make a lot of money'
And of course the worker is from Latvia
Perfectly describes the situation here ;D
pk10006 feelsbadman
indeed. People are complaining about how the situation is bad over here, yet instead of doing something about it they emigrate to richer countries (which 90% of the times they regret), or, in this case, make money for a foreigner, probably without paying any taxes. Whining and being part of the problem isn't going to solve anything. We're not as poor as you think, stop being greedy.
People like this are the real MVP cause some people make great money irl and can't spend the time to get all this shit like they could back in the day. Plus anyone who can do infernal cape is making bank right now and anyone who can do firecape without overhead prayers makes bank.
Great contect, I appreciate the time and effort you put into it.
Thanks a lot man
Crumb
Content*
Sorry :)
"From Lithuania" - A friend confirmed worker
EDIT it said Latvia.... but still I think A Friend has his address in Latvia anyways so???
I actually work for dbuffed
Then you're one of the cool few.