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What is the purpose and benefit of gathering for corporate worship?
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Why is it so important for the church to gather together for corporate worship? From our 2022 National Conference, Harry Reeder explains Scripture’s teaching about gathered worship as both an obligation and a delightful privilege.
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Harry Reeder is absolutely right that meeting together in person is very important. Those who just want to do church gatherings online are missing something big and important.
Humans need real company to stay mentally healthy. Seems like a no brainer
@@ELishaJesus1980 That's true, but I think there is something deeper in play when Christians meet together. There is a kind of spiritual union of a sort that isn't possible when Christians 'meet' online.
@@ELishaJesus1980 😂
I miss Harry Reeder!
Oh praise God for the gift of salvation!
The purpose: So we can fulfill the Word that admonishes us to gather together and “ do not forsake the gathering “
The benefit: For the building up of the body of Christ. We have been given different gifts of the Holy Spirit. When we gather together we get an opportunity to exercise the gifts so that the body of Christ is edified and kept strong in the Spirit
Thank you for this!
@@chantellemontgomery1491 u r welcome little bunny 🐰
I think when John says in Rev 1:10 that he was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, this was something more profound than simply what Christians typically experience when they meet together.
Thanks for sharing.
“And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.”
Glory to God we can meet together and encourage and pray for each other for healing
This is great 😊
That was a great answer!
No it wasn't. It was essentially a non-answer.
@@annep.1905This is what I heard ... We are to focus on the worship of God and draw the people's attention to the sweetness of the Lord Jesus Christ and not on the people, the building, or the person conducting the service.
@@billreal76 😝 The purpose of the assembly is to edify the church and spur one another on to love and good works (and other things that take place within the time of what is supposed to be fellowship). Our worship is our daily presentation of our bodies to God as a living sacrifice, ready and waiting to do his will. We ought to take a long, hard look at N.T. assemblies, and learn how to properly assemble. I'm pretty sure that the apostles would be sad, angry, or disturbed if they walked into most 'churches' nowadays.
Hawayu Ligonier Ministries *& I Say Thanks 🙏 2 Pst. Harry Reeder 4 Answering This Powerful, Blessful, Deep Question on "What Is The Purpose & Benefit 4 Gathering of Corporate Worship ?"4 What Pst. Harry Reeder Is Saying Is Veryyyyyy, Veryyyyyy Ryt One 💯% Where The Purpose & Benefit of Gathering 4 Corporate Worship Is:- 1. Gathering Together, 2. Worshipping Together & 3. Assembling & Meeting Together 4 Where Two or Three are Gathered, God Is There In Our Midsts & Behold, How Great & How Pleasant When Brethren Dwell In Unity & Not Forsaking The Assembling of Ourselves Together As The Manner of Some Is; But Exhorting One Another: & So Much The More As Ye See The Day Approaching Written In Matthew 18:20, Psalm 133:1 & Hebrews 10:24 4 The Purpose & Benefit of Gathering 4 Corporate Worship Is Worshipping Our Great Almighty God 4 They That Worship Him Must Worship Him In Spirit & In Truth Written In John 4:24* & God Bless Yu Pst. Harry Reeder & Ligonier Ministries So Veryyyyy, Veryyyyyy Much.🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️
Do not forsake the fellowship of the brethren; its in reference to the first Jewish believers in Christ; not to forsake the other Jewish old covenant people who were still in the old covenant; the idea of the word fellowship was so they will also follow God in Christ.
There is biblical warrant for Christians meeting on the first day of the week, e.g., Acts 20:7.
But meeting on this day isn't compulsory. As Paul says in Rom 14:5-6:
'One person judges one day to be more important than another day. Someone else judges every day to be the same. Let each one be fully convinced in his own mind. Whoever observes the day, observes it for the honor of the Lord.'
For example, it is common today for Jewish Christians to treat the Jewish Sabbath as a special day, and this should not be discouraged.
Paul is here refering to the ceremonial holy days of the old covenant, once appointed by God but canceled in Christ (Gal. 4:10; Col. 2:16-17). While this could include some ceremonial elements of the Mosaic Sabbath observance, the Sabbath itself is a creation ordiance and therefore has abiding moral force (Gen. 2:1-3; Ex. 20:11; Rev. 1:10). Paul’s words here cannot mean that Christians are under no obligation to observe any sacred days, for then his words about food (vv. 14-23) would imply that Christians are under no obligation to observe a sacred use of food, as in the Lord’s Supper.
Well with all the false teaching and social values in the church it’s in trouble. Take a look at your church and is it filled with the Holy Spirit and are you? Holy Spirit is grieved in the Christian church!
Lovely, 5-minute snow job that does not answer the question, and never intended to look deep into the Scriptures for the answer. 😝
*@**0:36** That is a blatantly false statement. The Christian Church is no longer under law and therefore, we are no longer under ANY commands. Harry Reeder should know better. The apostle Paul's words (Hebrews 10:25) are not a command in any form. All commands were abolished when Christ came as the High Priest to offer up himself once and for all. God said he would write the commands in our heart. God said we, our bodies, would be his temple for him to inhabit so we could worship in spirit in truth. Why is this man spreading false interpretations is beyond me. Context is important in scripture and clearly he seems to ignore the entire chapter to suit his purpose. God is not to be mocked.*
*Burnt offerings and sacrifices would no longer be of any use in presenting them to God in the temple because each saint would be a walking talking temple of God. Otherwise, any spiritual sacrifice and offering would invalidate the sacrifice of Jesus. That's why people flock to churches because they believe that is the only place where God can hear us, see us, and for him to receive proper worship. The apostle Paul asks that the brethren continue to gather together in order to encourage each other as the final day approaches. The apostle Paul even acknowledges that some brethren had made it a habit to no longer gather. Paul asked that this not become a habit because we needed to encourage one another.*
*I had to edit this comment when I heard another whopper by this man @**1:41** when he said "worshipped in the fullness." I didn't know that when I worshipped God, I was partially worshipping him until I was able to make it to church where God would finally accept my "worship in the fullness." How comical is that? Is this man even a Christian? What is going on here? Wow, I really thought Ligonier would screen their representatives better because this man's comments are a disgrace to the Church. To the Saints. But more importantly, to God himself! To him be the glory forever and ever.*
*Church attendance is comforting and encouraging as this world continues its spiral downward however, the church was made for us, not the other way around. Compulsory attendance is incompatible with our freedom in Christ. If you can attend and are comforted by attending more power to you however, church attendance WON'T SAVE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. I agree we must encourage one another however, the way this man presents it is incompatible with scripture. It's so sad to see people like Reeder promote a false teaching. He will have to answer for it. God's will be done always. Amen.*
We are, in fact, under commands. What we are not under is the O.T. law. There is a difference,and a big one.
This man's snow job, however, does not answer the question asked, which shows that he has no real idea, which is very sad. The purpose of the church, in meeting together, is for edification, building each other up, fellowship, and spurring each other on to love and good works. We also worship together, but Scripture says that we are to present our bodies as a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is our reasonable act of worship.
@@annep.1905 *Thank you for your comment. We are neither under command nor under any law. If we were under command like you wrote, this would mean our salvation would depend on obeying specific commands. (Think of 10 commandments) And this is not the case. We are **_given_** a few commands (for example to make disciples) to follow however, our salvation is not dependent on carrying them out. This is the contrast I was making between the law, commands, and the congregating to worship God in a formal compulsory way.*
*The last part of your comment is correct but you have to understand that congregating is neither a command nor a law, of which neither will save us. Even if it was a command, again, our salvation would not be dependent on it because of God's grace. (Rewards would be something that we would receive less of depending on the level of obedience to commands but that's another topic altogether)*
*We are saved first and foremost, the laws that Jesus fulfilled would henceforth be written in our hearts including any commands. Which is why John wrote what he wrote about our body being the temple for God to inhabit and we would worship Him in spirit and truth. Note the following scripture:*
*"No longer present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and present your members to God as instruments of righteousness. 14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace."~ Romans 6:13, 14*
*To be under grace is all-inclusive and is not subject to attaining salvation by following specific commands. It would be illogical for God to save us first then implement different commands and rely on the accomplishing of these commands for our salvation. Any commands we obey we obey from the heart with the help of the spirit and it is done as God wills it.*
@@EXJehovahsWitnessesTestimonies You're confusing command with salvation. If we break commands, we are still saved, but that does not make them any less commands. I point you to the apostle Paul's word when he wrote: command the older women to be reverent... Also, you are ignoring the words of the Lord Jesus Christ himself, when he said "my command is this: Love one another as I have loved you." We are unquestionably commanded to do certain things.
We are further commanded to meet together, but here again you are confusing two different things. The Scripture does *not* say "meet together to worship God." The Scripture says that the church met together for "fellowship and the breaking of bread" (Acts, 4 or 5, I think), and Scripture goes into a lot of detail about what assembling together looked like (not much like today's assemblies). It does further say that everything ought to be done decently and in order. It does not say how often we should meet together, but it does say not to forsake assembling together.
And again, none of these things are salvific, but they are nevertheless commands.
@@annep.1905 *My wonderful sister in Christ, I think we are saying the same thing except from a different perspective. I agree with everything you wrote. I may have mistook your initial words to be bound with our salvation which you rightfully say they are not and I agree. I believe so many churches have abused the words of Paul in Hebrews 10:25 and this leads to much confusion. Paul did say we should not "abandon" the gathering with other saints in order to encourage one another. However, these gatherings bear no semblance to what we see today and that leads to other issues within the churches. You are right that assemblies **_then_** do not look like those of today. I appreciate the dialogue my good sister. May God bless you and yours.*
@@EXJehovahsWitnessesTestimonies I think you're correct. God bless you and yours! I wish the assemblies of today looked like the assemblies then. I think we would have longer meetings with better teaching, fellowship, prayer, and Scripture reading. An occasional song, here and there, sharing of burdens, and so much more! We are trying to encourage our church to fellowship more. It is a hard battle, but they are, albeit at a snail's pace, slowly increasing their fellowship times. Still not only is there a long way to go in fellowship, but in the general spiritual well-being of the church. Lift us up in prayer once, anyway, please, if you would!