Stormtroopers vs Clone Troopers - STAR WARS JEDI FALLEN ORDER NPC Wars
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- We are spectating the NPC Wars between Stormtroopers and Clone Troopers in Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order.
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Stormtroopers vs Clone Troopers - STAR WARS JEDI FALLEN ORDER NPC Wars
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Stormtrooper winning the first few.
Impossible, must be imperial propaganda
🤔maybe
The entire thing is imperial Propaganda... most of the fights the Stormies wins
Imperials losing nah rebel propaganda
@@jervisjavier Ayo so it’s realistic?
@@Chosen_Ash nah, storm troopers suck compared to clones in reality, but ay, they cost less and work better in numbers.
Stortrooper: wins
Everyone: they aim now?
They aim now.
They aim now! (well kinda they still miss half their shots, and tend to fire at nothing from time to time.)
@@billclark5055 its a joke man
i call hacks
What you mean they aim now? Did you even watch Episode 4?
Had a thought recently. Clone commandos trained stormtroopers, which leads one to expect that the commandos passed on how they were trained: flash learning, simulations, live fire exercises, and so on.
Clones had their whole lives to train, yes, but growing at double the rate of a normal man, that's 10 years. The youngest recruitment age for stormtroopers was apparently 13, so if they spent their teens training and graduated at 20, that's 7 years of training.
But clones wouldn't just start doing live fire training, marching, drills, and combat exercises as babies and toddlers. Their bodies would need to develop a bit first. Some military cultures forced children to begin training at as young as 7; and I think clones at 3 would equal a normal 6-year-old physically. I like how this seems to even out. Stormtroopers are supposed to be the best soldiers in the Galaxy, according to Ben Kenobi.
I think the problem was the helmets. I mean the clones had visors and they have two eyeholes. Which gives off the bigger range of view? The visor right? Most likely the real reason their aim sucks is because you can barely see In the helmet
@@neoterumi4772 Stormtroopers in the Original Trilogy are only bad shots when they're trying to be. A New Hope is filled with Stormtrooper casualties - the rebels at the start of the movie, Leia when she is stunned, the Jawas that sold R2 and Threepio, and Owen and Beru.
In every other engagement they're in for the rest of the trilogy, they're either just putting on a show and making it look like they're trying to stop Leia from being rescued so that she can be tracked to Yavin, baiting Luke to the carbon freezing chamber so Vader can freeze him and deliver him to the Emperor, letting the crew make it back to the Falcon so that they can rescue Luke after his duel with Vader - simply so Vader can board the Falcon and capture everyone together, or are simply tactically unable to win or hit anyone.
There are 3 lines in A New Hope that confirm this, and Vader simply couldn't complete his plan to freeze Luke if his soldiers killed him first, plus after the duel Vader and Piett have dialogue where we learn that Stormtroopers disabled the Falcon's hyperdrive - even after it was fixed, Piett explaining that he would capture the Falcon in a tractor beam, and Vader ordering him to send a boarding party into the Falcon with their guns set to stun.
The evidence that Stormtroopers are elite soldiers is all in the original movies.
Also, clone helmets have visors that are just as small. Look closely. They're bridged and have a T-shape, but that makes little difference. Either way, both clone and stormtrooper helmets are filled with all kinds visual software. I believe the EU established that a stormtrooper's helmet is calibrated for the wearer each time they put it on, and is disabled when it is removed - hence why anyone wearing a stormtrooper helmet as a disguise can never see out of it.
I think the stormtrooper’s guns actually shoot faster than the clone troopers
One of the few things the Empire improved on from Clones to Storms. Their rifles.
@@JRGProjects reduced their training and helmet eye holes tho XD
Acctually they if you look trough it its like a sunglass if u dont know the helmet code each helmet has code which cann access all the hud aiming etc thats why ahen characters use them they cant see cuz they dont know the code and plus of you ever tried a hat that has bunch of hole if put your eye real close you can see pretty much what you would see without an hat
@@Dashdorj12 your vision is much worse when you have that over your face wdym
"Officially, there never was a 'Clone rebellion' on Kamino. Unofficially, approximately twenty years after we were created, a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire."
Clone trooper: Ha! You really need that at-walker to beat us.
Storm trooper: Your just mad it almost killed all your clone brothers.
Guess the Empire was on to something, those Stormtroopers wiped the floor with the clones lmao
But the stormtroopers lose to some teddy bears
@@Lazshadow plot armor
@@Tony-sx3nf still lost to teddy bears and ran away from Han solo when there was a group of them
@@Lazshadow still plot armor
@@Tony-sx3nf and that's why they still suck
Impossible, stormtroopers usually miss their shots
Only in shitty Filoni shows
@@nikersramnikers7081 exactly
You didn’t pay attention to the movies whatsoever and it shows
@@angelic_disappointment7889 Any Star Wars fan would know stormtroopers miss their shots.
@@angelic_disappointment7889 you mean the movies where the miss the main cast again....and again....and again?
At some point I think an on-screen demonstration of the actual competence of the imperial Stormtroopers is definitely something needed. It's kind of bad that they're just being these they can't aim sorts of things. We saw in the mandalorian that they are actually competent in their movements and room clearing and all of that but just against a hero character
Huh...turns out in Jedi Fallen Order stormtroopers are more accurate at shooting
Stormtroopers: *Wins*
Me: *In my X-Wing* Simulator Finished
Merrin is just chilling 🤣🤣
Stormtroopers:*winning*
Everyone:
" *impossible* "
Anyone else notice they shoot in the same spot 15 times before they switch targets
here we can see exactly how game design from different genres influence the AI behaviour, so, because the clone troopers are the first enemies the protagonist cal encounters it only makes sense because of power progression, that the enemies encountered early on would be weaker in some way, in this example, the clones have less accuracy, missing their first shots, also as you can see in the fight against the walker, when more than one soldier (in either side) is focused on the same target, only one soldiers will shoot at any given time, which makes sense in a single player game, also all troopers fire their full volley at a single target no matter what, even if the target is dead, all these mechanics wouldn't be present on a strategy, or fps game, maybe not any other genre even.
Seems the reaction times on the Stormtroopers is faster, meaning they change targets faster when their target is defeated
One of Palpatines biggest mistakes besides thinking vader wouldn't turn was getting rid of the clones id bet my life the empire wouldn't have lost
Jumpscare Belike: 3:56
Clonetrooper: AYO
Officially there never was a Clone Rebellion on Kamino...
If there was a meme for this video it would be the one where it goes
WHAT ARE YOU AIMING AT
Ah yes, the old Clone Trooper stretegy of standing in groups and collectong holes.
"Funny strategy Cotton, Lets see how ot plays out!"😂
The trooper who one has the best accurate shots out of the whold empire
This makes no sense clone had way superior training and accuracy as well as being genetically modified so in a real situation the clones would have a much greater advantage
Unrealistic. A clone wouldve never missed that many shots in a row. 9:20
How come the clone suck in Jedi Fallen Order
because they are equal and fire one at a time
They were only for the prologue of the game while the stormtroopers were meant to be the enemy for the whole game
how slow you wanna fly
blasterbolds in fallen order: yes
Not gonna lie, if this was an in-universe fight the 13th battalion Clones would kick the Stormtroopers asses.
8:56 The Battle of Kamino
What the hell logic game and best training and weapons to win this.
So it's just who begins the animation first wins.
Also why do they shoot the same spot 5 times before retargeting?
Damn clones really do be getting merked
4:06 When you don’t care like at all
My god this is so satisfying to watch.
Wish there were AT-AT drivers, TIE pilots, AT-ST drivers, Imperial officers, Imperial Navy troopers, Royal Guards, Shadow Troopers, Darktroopers, death troopers, Shock troopers, and Terror troopers in this to fight
Go play SWFR
I disagree. Look at all the evidence in the source material. Prequel era clones almost never missed their target. Storm troopers couldn't hit the broad side of a barn using a nuke, unless Luke's aunt and uncle were in it.
Honestly it's mostly a matter of coordination rather than anything
Слава Империи!!!
For the Republic!!!
Yeah
Clones faced drones. Stormtroopers faced humans
This video made me question all of Star Wars
I thought it was canon that clone troopers were better than stormtroopers
We need a Star Wars battle sim so bad
Nothing like a game of Laser Tag.
The only time storm troopers have good aim lol
All of them seem to forget that cover exists.
I think you need to modify the clones AI to stop shooting when the target runs out of hit points, lore wise clones are far too well trained to waste amo like that.
SPOILER: I think the reason why the storm troopers won is because of how they shot alot faster than the clone troopers.
6:57 a bit over kill, but ok. Guess you got to check if he's extra dead, if he wasn't extra checked he would've gone god mode. He would've 360 no-skope head shotted them, in a dorito and mountain dew sponsored counter strike kill montage format.
This must be dark sith force powers that powers swap the clone aim of the duck aim for the stormtropers in the first few rounds
Okay i understand, Clone troopers needs more E-11.
Chad GAR Clone Troopers > Virgin GE Stormtroopers > Megavirgin FO Stormtroopers
Let's be fully honest.
Storm troopers would have fired 6 times while the clones would fire 3 and re adjust there aim
NOO!
This is not true, that’s impossible!
The reason why the clones are lossing is because the stormtroopers never run to attack. They always hold position
Officially... there never *was* a clone rebellion on Kamino. Or aboard a rogue Venator. Or on Zeffo. Or on Kashyyyk.
Unofficially...
Can you guys see rocket blast move and when you see enemy shots move.
Question when did stormtroopers learn to aim
Finally a game that understands the threat level of imperial stormtroopers instead of joking around making them miss every shot the only reason why that joke became a thing is because in the first Star Wars movie none of the storm troopers were nowhere near hitting the protagonists but that’s because they’re the hero and you can’t kill the hero’s in the movies but storm troopers are really dangerous and good since they are supposed to be the future form and replacement of the clone troopers and are supposed to be a good shot. They show this a lot in the madolorian but yea no one dies even if they don’t have good armor like bruh kill someone in the show if they can hit the mandilorian they can hit other mando’s too which honestly disappoints me.
hey mate can you try and do a far cry 6 npc battle?
clones just like ahhh im good
Well stormtroopers have a very good and deadly aim but only when shooting to someone who hasn't plot armor. Btw there is scene in original trilogy where couple rebel soldiers defending choke point in the Leia's ship got completely annihilated by stormtroopers. They are superior to most of the enemies they are fighting with. Also most people tend to not realise that stormtroopers are not a regular infantry, they are more like shocktroops.
Must be Sparti clones
The only game they have good aim
Me when I see stormtroopers aim WHAT THE and Me when I see clones die WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
This look very nice
Wow nice and epic I can’t wait to see next video I love itttttttttttttttttt
why the clones are charging always???? the imperials had to charge in some maps and they didn't
Are we sure these are real stormtroopers? They hit their target.
What's your favorite Stormtroopers or clones
How do you do npc wars like this in jedi fallen order?
With AI Spawner mod, link is in the description
Ok thanks!
They were shooting at the same spot like 5 times then die
Stormtroopers would not win in reality tbh Clones are the best army in star wars history
Npc universe you’re maniac the clones
Should have used the atat from shadows of the Empire....that thing didnt play.
What are the chances of getting to see some turok 2. Port guard humans vs the dinozoid army ive always wanted to see how that would play out
AI skin VS AI skin, that's all I see. No actual stat difference.
And clone fans whine about the storm troopers winning, even when they pretty much share the same AI with clones
We need clones (without mods)
These are actually clones from campaign without mods but yeah there should be more clones in the game
@@NPCUniverse you mean the deathtroopers?
No I mean these clone troopers, they are from order 66 campaign mission
@@NPCUniverse I know,but you cant Fight Them in the Training mode
Oh okay you are right
“Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise.” - Obi-wan Kenobi
He said precise, not accurate, there is a difference
@@sawgeraylo3167 it's a synonym for accurate my dude
@@goofierstatue1886 no, precision is getting the same result time and time again, accuracy is getting close to the right result time and time again
@@sawgeraylo3167 Precise: the quality, condition, or fact of being exact and accurate.
That's the definition from Google.
@Michael only when they are blasting a not named character team
That stormtrooper who won the first fight must have been Gary XD
Ah a man of culture!
It was probably take your daughter to work day so he wanted to impress.
Wheres his kid!! =p
I'll remember this !
What's your ID number ?
He's still upset about that ewok
I feel like the Clone NPC’s had a less trigger happy and aggressive programming compared to the Stormtroopers
That's because the Clone Troopers are from the first mission while Stormtroopers van be seen throughoutbthe whole game
A mí me parece que son los mismos solo diferente armadura
Cope harder
@@Commander23c Name a single Storm trooper who beat a Jedi to death with his fists, let alone 20 Jedi to death like the man each clone was made from.
@@Commander23c Clones are far superior. Hell they took out the storm troopers and the walker without explosives or anything.
Stormtrooper: (glares) "We don't need no Clone Trooper!"
Clone Trooper: (scoff) "Tell that to the Rebels."
Tell that to the plot armour*
The plot armor is strong 😞
Well, the bad batch kind of showed they aren't so good as the stormtroopers.
@@ghostrecon1171 because the Bad Batch are basically mutated Clone Commandos
@@ghostrecon1171 You're talking about *Super* clones who take out average clones but Clone commandos would destroy the Bad Batch.
If you're going to compare Bad Batch to Stormtrooper, that would make clones look like better soldiers.
“After the Kamino uprising, the Emperor decided an army of genetically identical soldiers was too susceptible to corruption. Future troopers would be cloned from a variety of templates. Though the 501st itself remained pure, the rest of the Imperial Army gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys.”
Ah yes og bf2 05
The assault was led by Boba Fett himself as well
Bf 2005 was based
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2005)
I love this videos. But definitely this game needs a lot of physics improvements.
Yeah, it's so weird that they shoot blindly to the same spot even when the enemy moved or is already dead
@@bignoobmikey9034 bad comment
@@ShadowFP9 lol
Bc there’s not really any reason to have the gun combat be that good. Since in the story there’s no gun to gun combat, it wouldn’t matter for the developers to make all of this perfect
@@philmybutup4759 is bad even for gun to saber combat
Officially there was no clone rebellion.
Good I will inform the emperor of our success
"Unofficially, approximately twenty years after we were created, a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino, with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire."
"Our mission commander, an expert on the inner workings of Kamino, was a young bounty hunter named Boba Fett."
Did anyone notice that the clones would break there legs when they died
Unofficially.. we blew them up, blew up the Kaminoans, blew up the factory, damn near blew up the planet.
3:10 has my dying! Like, all the clones just look on dumbfounded as this tank, armed to the teeth with laser cannons and launchers, waltzes over only to drop a single hand grenade like it's a WW1 biplane. The dramatic slowmo only enhances the ridiculousness of the moment.
It's a scout walker, not a battle tank.
Oh man that reaction got me with the clone troopers
@@Rufio_Cristiforus_Tucarus a vehicle with a thick armour plating, slow moving and big cannon.
NOPE, NOT A TANK.
@@sirbachelorboredmen1314 AT-STs are not all that heavily armored and can often be utilized in reconnaissance roles, so the vehicle wouldn't really be considered a main battle tank or any such equivalent, anyway.
It was a funny moment 😂
storm troopers:"Why are we so bad if you trained us you old man"
Veteran clone trooper:"Because you can't aim"
Storm troopers: "And who taught us to aim bad?"
haha lol
Because we have plot armour and you don’t*
that doesnt make any sense the clones are supposed to teach them how lmao
@@w1ndgeneral226 Clone: Our crazy brother Gregor.
3:57 Clonetrooper got scared of what he saw
Clonetrooper: Ugh, a non-clone gross.
I’m just laughing at the night sister just not giving a damn about the situation.
@@dwaynesetiawan6529 tell that to the jedi
The Walker gave birth
Looks legit.
Man, watching this really makes me want a modern Star Wars RTS
Until then we have modded Empire at War.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn and ya know what? It’s actually good. That’s what astonishes me,most of the time,mods are lacklustre in some things,but holy moly empire at war’s mods feel as if someone put their soul into it.
@@IdioticCanadian I mean, the only reason that game has been alive since 2006 was because of modders. My favorites have to be Thrawn's Revenge and Awakening of the Rebellion for adding new mechanics that were once impossible.
Still waiting on Empire at War Remake to fully incorporate ground battles.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn and men of war assault squad 2 Galaxy at War mod!!!
This would actually be a cool scenario in another star wars universe, where palpatine just made poeple belive jedis were bad. Then started recruting people to fight against the jedis and the clones (who then didn't get inhibitor chip in their brains), the republic turning on the jedis. I would LOVE to see a movie, series, anything with this concept.
IMHO the next logical step for the Star Wars franchise is to introduce a multiverse.
@@ArachKing Yeah that would be pretty cool
@@ArachKing please god no, not everything has to be a marvel shitshow
O yea how cool would that be but wait our government been doing that to us since world war 1 sooooo
@@ArachKing that makes me think of star wars visions tbh
I want jango fett to voice the clones
Hell yeah
I want the Polynesian spa
Dee Bradley Baker is the better option for a lot of reasons, but Temuera Morrison is best as Jango and Boba respectively.
Why they keep firing at the same spot after their target is already dead
Hard to see out of the helmets?
I guess the original idea was for the stormtrooper/clone and pretty much every other enemy to fight Cal your main protaganist and usually you just reflect or block the incoming shots with your lightsaber So the A.I fires multiples rounds in succession so the player can "feel cool" essentially refecting or redirecting blaster bolts....obviously wasn't intended for fighting one another.
@@PeterAnthonyIHay very good point
Faulty Ai, most likely.
cause no one had a dc15 a
8:55 my boy went flying. Kinda reminds me of that shoretrooper that got killed in Rogue One
2:48 that clone has balls of fury. Squaring off with an ATST 😂
Me when storm troopers beat clones:
Impossible the archives must be incomplete
interesting AI design form devs. Against single entity opponents, only 1 unit will fire simultaneously max. Probably so the player never gets overwhelmed by incoming fire while playing the actual story.
That's incorrect though, because actually playing the game you can be fired on by multiple opponents at the same time.
Pretty much none of this was AI desighn, it's the AI shitting itself because it wasn't desighned to fight anything except 1 melee trooper
Are sure you spawned the same amount of each kind? Seems like stormtroopers have an advantage in numbers
It's because the stormtroopers were killing the clones so fast it looked like there were less clones to begin with
Stormtroopers fire is more frequent, if not for that than it would have been complete rng
@@Blarrior um...clones would be superior as they are genetically engineered soldiers
@@Blarrior clones have massive amounts of training including survival training and were based on one of the most successful bounty Hunter in the galaxy
@@Blarrior they were replaced because 1. They represented the republic and the empire wanted to move away from that. And 2. They were expensive and storm troopers were cheaper
As much as a love the clones, i do think that the stormtrooper's were given a lot harder of a enemy than clone's were, mostly because Droids didnt really get updates too their programing that often if at all so once you know their pattern's you have a pretty good chance against them, while the Rebel's were constantly evolving their strategy and was also not fighting on definitive battle lines. And yes i understand that " Le droid horde is hard because it is many number lmfao." but the CIS was also supposed too loose too. Not too mention a good chunk of the stromtrooper corp was regular people that decided too join VS Trained from birth.
I see what you are saying but I must correct you, the CIS was intended to lose but this did not make it an easy fight for the clones. I will tell you why. The CIS had to seem like a serious threat so that the Chancellor could get and keep emergency powers, and so that each victory would be seen as more and more impressive which would boost Palpatine’s image in the senate.
The CIS was actually empowered at certain points so that Palpatine could convince the senate to ignore all the decisions he made which gave him more power, and he would hinder efforts from the Republic at certain points to allow the CIS to gain an advantage to scare the senate. So in fact, this made it more difficult for the clones, not easier. It was a mix of support from Sidious and sabotage from Sidious.
And also, not all of the CIS were droids. Remember Umbara. I would like to see Stormtroopers try to take that planet.
The CIS was a far more dangerous enemy than the Rebels. There were billions and billions of droids. Yes, individual rebels were more competent than an individual droid, but there were also commando droids etc, droidekas, super battle droids, jetpack super battle droids. These were no joke. You cannot just point a gun and shoot these droids, like you can with a rebel, you have to aim at the weak spot or be excellent in melee combat.
Would stormtroopers have gotten the same victory on Mon Cala as the clones secured, against native sentient shark people, in underwater combat? Think.
It is a coincidence that rebels were more difficult opponents, it is not the reason people say that clones are better, clones are still more competent than stormtroopers regardless. Put both against the rebels and see what would happen.
And furthermore, back to the original point, yes Palpatine was at points hindering (and empowering) the separatists. But individual separatist generals were fighting at 100% effectiveness and were intending to secure victory in the most effective way. Palpatine could only influence Dooku and by extension the separatist senate, he could not directly influence what was happening on the front line.
You do realize the stormtroopers are just cheaper versions of the clones right? One of the reasons they decided to stop using clones during the age of the Galactic Empire was because they were expensive to maintain. Stormtroopers on the other hand are just your everyday citizen turned conscript, but with less training. You said so yourself, Clones are better trained than Stormtroopers.
@@CeruleanSword Not to mention the fact that one of the reasons they changed from clones to stormtroopers was because they wanted a cheaper alternative. Why maintain $1000+ worth on a clone when you can have the same worth with 10 stormies.
Clones are fighting against NPCs while stormies are fighting against players.
Don’t forget Umbara, Ryloth, Felucia and the outer rim planets/sieges like those were so brutal, at least the 317th, 501st and 21st Marine Corp were as tuff as you could get
4:04 i like how the pilot got distracted by Merrin lol
yeah he got a little crush
Merrin is hot tho
thats why he got shot like that 😂
Its happening lezzzgooo!!
Clone trooper: AT-STs? Thats against the rules!
We need more battles.Like this, the clones must redeem themselves
Honestly pretty realistic, the helmets are hard to see out of so they keep shooting in one direction to make sure they hit their target lol
No, we often saw their view out of this helmet and you can see everything clearly and also stormtroopers have not that good aim
@@marvingorel1112 you don't get the joke...
@@scoutman66 ya its just that well ppl who dont know how to use the helmet cant use its tech making it as good as well a bucket
@@scoutman66 unless ya could hack it or in star wars wording slice it
Bro what are you talking about? They literally have targeting computers inside their helmets..
Super shocked how the clones got wiped each time... never saw that coming.
well, except for the round with the AT-ST..... but yeah, poor clones
It makes sense, seeing as how stormtroopers got trained by clone commandos (or some of them)
Well the clones definitely have less programming of what to actually do and the clones were kinda just stacked on top of eachother while the stormtroopers were placed spread out
@@cooperdesrocher6046you’re coping so hard, the stormtroopers were also packed together
@@angelic_disappointment7889 not even close to as packed as the clones the storm troopers were spread also coping from what? What a game has NPC do in a game? In lore clones are way better skilled
I know this game didn't put imperials against clone wars (in a battle context) so it doesn't matter, but I think the clones would've totally smoked the storm troopers had it been purposefully more accurate.
In the star wars clones better stormtroopers