SHOCKING - Raavan was Rapist? | Ramayana & Raavan | Ami Ganatra | TJD Podcast 25
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Ami Ganatra joins Sanjay Dixit again as the duo dove into the unknown facets of the Ramayana, breaking the misconceptions that have seeped in the common narratives in another TJD Podcast 25.
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00:00 - 2:01 Tadka Vadh
7:55 Ahalya Ki Katha
16:15 Swayamvar
21:16 Kaikeyi and Manthra
28:35 Shree Ram Vanvas
31:40 Shree Ram Bharat Episode
34:25 Lakshman’s Protectiveness and Destiny
39:55 Bharat Milaap
42:25 Shree Ram Jabali Samwad
48:10 Shree Ram Sita Samwad
52:00 Reality of Surpanakha’s Episode
57:58 Sita Haran
1:02:10 Lakshman Rekha
1:04:14 Meeting Hanuman ji
1:10:09 Vanar Janjati
1:11:58 Sugreev’s Atlas
1:15:26 Bali Vadh
1:21:05 Yuddh Kand
She is saying exactly what's written in the book. Just because this is a time where people are empathising with evil people, it doesn't change facts.
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@User-nx7sj 99😊😊😊9
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@vr860 so true 👍 ✨
The most important quote i found in ramayan is
" he who pursues sensory pleasures neglecting his discipline will soon fall to distress "
What pleasure in supporting Israel
The Supreme Personality of Godhead said, It is lust only, Arjuna, which is born of contact with the material mode of passion and later transformed into wrath, and which is the all devouring sinful enemy of this World - Bhagavad Gita 3:37.
@@AmarnathSwami-ki2jbit is a war between Dharm and Adharm so we are supporting them no matter who is. Unlike you terrorists we support humanity
@@trira1171 when you read gita from mbcse(madrasa board of chut*** secondary education)
Yes I have read from Geeta press there is nothing written there ( vegetarianism is mahapaap)
We live in a yuga where Rāvan & Karn are admired even tho most people have not bothered to know what's in our itihaas.
While reading ramayan...find..Many people (men, women... Etc) curse him on his upcoming destruction.. For evil acts...
Karn villain toh thik hai par evil kabse ban gaya? Samajhaye.
@@ParaBrahmana kripya tv serials narratives propaganda se bahar aye
@@ParaBrahmana Karn was actually a very bad character. Kunti ka beta tha jaroor par uska parvarish kunti ke haton nahi hua tha. Usko dharm ka gyan nahin tha.
@@hiiyou4058 not only that we think british come for our development which is not actually they came to loot us this is the reason why we indians lost to foreign invader .
Ami Ganatra is challenging the West Indic-ideology-music's west-conferred-maestro Devdutt Patnaik. Ami Ji must do such talks more often to set the interpretations of Devdutt about books of this Dharma Land, Bharat.
Agreed
@@trira1171 shut up. Valmiki and Vyas Dalit kb ho gye? Kaha padh liye ho Valmiki ko Dalit dijhaaye huye?
Tum log ka khela khub samjh rhe hain.
Devdatt patnaik tho ek no. ka motiya hai !
@@trira1171 This 'Dalit' word is not in Ramayan/Mahabharat or Maharshi Valmiki has not identified himself as 'Dalit'. There was 'Varna' according to work. Blacksmith, Goldsmith, Carpenter titles are common as per their vocation in Britain even now, but not considered backward. This word was coined for political unity of socio-economic backward group after Mughal & British suppression & gained ground after 1947.
@@trira1171Valmiki is a position rather than a person. It's not a cast.
Thanks a ton Sanjay Sir, Ami Ji and Jaipur Dialogues Team. Jai Shree Ram, Bharat Mata ki Jai.
Sabhi mitra life mai अष्टांग योग ka bhi palan kare 🙂
A podcast that clears many misconceptions related to Rāmāyana👍🙏
Ravan is a perfect example of what happens when an undeserving person gets knowledge, wealth and power. Very comparable to present day politicians, celebrities and top businessmen.
True
usne bohot saal tap kya tha bohut hard work kya tha dont compare him with politicians and celebrities. Aisa koi dikha dey jo apna sar kaat kar hawan kare. Haa uska ego hi usay khatam kiya hai. Ye lady Ami Gantara kuch dino pehle Karn ko galat bol rahi thay. Unse ye puche ki Ravan uske past life me kya tha sare jawab mil jayega. Har cause kay piche ek reason hota hai. Ravan shiv gana tha use narad ne shraap diya tha jiske karan usay aisa bhugatna para.
@@sanjroksek baat bata konsi Mahabharat ya ramayan sabse accurate hogi , obviously ved vyas aur valmiki , jitna Gyan Ami ji ko hai , shyad he kisi me hai , aur karn kr bare me Ami ji ne sub sahi bola hai kabhi khud padh Lena ved vyas rachit Mahabharat , aur ravan ko defend mat kr , pehle Jaan le acche se
Three were from different dimensions.. past time n space..
They descended to create a Lila so we earthlings may remember the highest Consciousness within us..n transcend time via meditation.
Dhanush is the spine ..arrow of one minded attention dhayana leads to Samajh Samadhi
Beyond time n space.
As humans evolve a few will transcend time
They too become Shiva as space.. eternal energy.
The texts will be understood at different levels by different people.
@@unknown-xb3rm khud thoda padho research karo jo kisi ne bol diya usi ko sach mat manlo...maine bola na unko pucho ki ravan past life me kya tha ye bataye.
This is called a real satsang 😊
Sabhi mitra life mai अष्टांग योग ka bhi palan kare 🙂
यावत् स्थास्यन्ति गिरयस्सरितश्च महीतले ।
तावद्रामायणकथा लोकेषु प्रचरिष्यति ।।
As long as the mountains and rivers exist on this earth, the story of Rāmāyaṇa will prevail among the people.
Jai Sri Rāma 🏹🙏🙏🙏
I love to listen to Ami ji. Please have regular discussion with her. She gives positives vibes and energy.
This was so much needed .... in bengal there is a version of ramayana written by micheal madhusudan dutta ... glorifying ravan and meghnad to extremes .... i hope this podcast reaches every home in india ...
One of the most beautiful episodes of Jaipur Dialogues!! Jai Shri Ram!! Jai Sanatan Dharma!!
ऊं तत् सत्
अमर परमात्मा कबिर साहेबको जय❤
Absolutely!
@@trira1171create your own video of what is written in Valmiki Ramayan and put it on YT. Share the link here. I will watch
@@gauravbhatnagar6101 This Trira guy is an andh-hater fool. In this comment section only he interpreted Gita 3.13 saying Devas are asking us only to eat meat of sacrificed animals.
@@trira1171 show me where the answer is 'meat'
It's amazing how a search operation of such a scale was conducted in the world to find one human and the fact that she was eventually found and could be brought back.
I love how Sanjay ji lands punches on current affairs/people. An illuminating episode, thank you Ami Ji.
Jai Sri Ram🙏I got to learn a lot from this video about Sri Ramayana. The
most important point that Bhagwan Sri Rama revealed is that you can't judge a person by his/her education, money or even his family....an individual only can be judged by his acts or Karma. Happy Deepavali🎊
Sabhi mitra life mai अष्टांग योग ka bhi palan kare 🙂
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One can listen to Amiji for ever.
Thank you sanjayji for inviting this fabulous person. She has so much clarity.
I am very happy that young generation is re searching Ramayan & Sharing the facts based on Valmiki Ramayan. Sab Shri ram ki krupa our ichhaase ho raha hai. Ami beta great job. Jay shriram
Ami Ganatraji is blessed by Mata Saraswati. Her knowledge about Sanatan is unparalleled. May Ishwar bless her.
U can't be not high😅😅
If that's the case then Brahma ( saraswati), Vishnu ( vrinda) and Mahesh has also done same acts of rape per scriptures? Why do we consider them God and worship them? Any one ?
She is the embodiment of mata saraswati indeed 🎉🎉 what a magnificent n wise woman she is! 👩
@@alpeshmittal3779what is source of your knowledge, manipulated PURAN??
Ami is incredible wealth of knowledge. Please keep bringing her back!
Excellent episode. Always nice to hear Ami Ganatra's Ramayana and Mahabharata. Thank You.
अमी जी को सुनकर ज्ञान प्राप्त होता है। लोग जो कहते हैं कहें क्युकी वाल्मीक जी राम जी के समकालीन थे तो उन्होंने अधिक सत्य लिखा है।
Thank you very much. Yeh hamara Divya Granth jitni bhi bar sune itni bar aur sun ne ka maan karta hai....it's so important to learn Sanskrit to understand our history.
Mind blowing conversation. Learnt so much in juat an hour. Koti koti pranam... Ganatra ji 🙏🙏
Yes.Ravan Raped Apsara Punjikasthala, it's mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana, Book VI : Yuddha Kanda - Book Of War | Chapter [Sarga] 13 | Sloka 12
Ravana Raped Apsara Rambha, it's mentioned in Ramayana, Uttar Kanda | Chapter [Sarga] 26 | Sloka 28
Yess , You are right bro
ravana 🤡 was a Rapist
Uttar kand isn't a part of valmiki ramayan.
Read correct book 😢
Read Geeta Press publication book which are only authentic book.
There is no uttar kand in ramayana.
Rambha was a low class girl . She should be grateful that an emperor touched her body
@@debaprasad9379abe dogle yahi soch se pata lag raha he rapist ko support krne wale log kese hote he bhagwan kre teri ma behan ke sath bhi aisa hi ho phir bolna ye apni ma behan ke liye
बहुत सुंदर, सटीक, और स्पष्ट वर्णन। धन्यवाद अमी जी एवं संजय जी 🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳
अत्यंत प्रेरणा दायक और प्रभावकारी चर्चा। आप दोनों महाविभूतियों को नमन्। ऐसे विषद विषयों को जन जन तक पहुंचाने का दायित्व हम सभी का है। तभी हम सनातन द्रोहियों के मुंह को बंद कर पाएंगे। सभी से निवेदन है कि इस संवाद को अधिक से अधिक लोगों तक पहुंचा कर धर्म रक्षा के अपने दायित्व को पूरा करें। जय श्री राम 🙏
Ami has beautifully explained Valmiki Ramayan. Thank you
Ami Ji ne bhi jitna bola sab true hai 😍Maine ye padha sab exact baatya hai ami ji ne ❤
बहुत देर से..पर एक अत्याधिक महत्वपूर्ण podcast..ये मात्र प्रारम्भ होना चाहिए... भारतियों के लिए एक आवश्यक पहल.
Brilliant presentation. Thank you Sanjay Ji for organising this interview. The current dispensation in Tamilnadu epitomises kamaasakthi and ahankaar . Hence the kind of statement about sanathan dharm eminates from there. विनाश काले विपरीत बुद्धि । तमिलनाडु का हिन्दू समुदाय अन्य राज्यों की तुलना में गहरी नींद में है। अबकी बार भी केन्द्र में हम सनाथनीयों की सरकार। जय श्री राम।
Jai Shree Raam🙏🏻🙏🏻 Whatttt a personality. We Bharatiyas are soooo blessed to have these histories, dhanyosmi dhanyosmi 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Superb we want to hear more discussion like this again and again on our sanatan
One of the best discussions on Ramayana 🙏🙏
🙏🙏🙏 Gem of discussion and analysis between two profound scholars of Hinduism. Very enlightening !!!
I like how she explains❤❤❤
This podcast is great gift to us.. With valuable eye opening analytics knowledge
Fantastic podcast and immense knowledge of Shree Ramayan!
Please do more such podcasts on other Hindu scriptures, Puranas and Ved🙏🙏🙏
Extremely interesting. I was glued to the conversation. Point is even without these explanations, my mind tells me that our epics have hidden pearls on human dynamics. Thanks Ami ji for diving deep. And Sanjay ji you are right about krantijeevi. Jai Sri Ram
Grateful for Ami Ganatra jis Prasang katha. ईतना रस इनके स्वर शब्दों में हम कृतज्ञ हो गए 🙏🏼🌹🙏🏼
Beautiful. This narration brought tears to my eyes.
What a mesmerizing podcast! 🙏🏽 I will definitely listen to this again because so much has been clarified. Aap dharam ke liye bahut acha kaam kar rahe hain, I would pray you keep doing this as beautifully as this.
Always a pleasure listening to Ami Ganatra. She is filling up the gaps which remained in the knowledge of my lifetime thus far.
Salute you Ami Ganatra ji , for really enlightening us. Intend to read your books as soon as it is possible... I always thought that Ahilya was a stone ( thanks to Amar Chitra Kathaa) .. 🙏
I don't know why but for me it is impossible to listen to Ramayan without crying, everytime. Such high moral values people can have, I just cannot believe a human has written this.
Same here
@@trira1171 Please provide proof. Did Valmiki himself say that he was a dalit? Since when did Dalits have a Ashram with students?
Dalit itself is a madeup word of modern day. Outcast people were not a unified community. They just lost caste privileges because of bad deed.
@@trira1171 Whoever wrote ramayana was the most brilliant man ever born, but I will only believe anything if there is evidence.
@@trira1171 Then Valmiki may be a tribal. But Dalits are not tribals, they are just as civilised as rest of society. Even if they were treated badly they still live around villages and cities only.
@@trira1171Valmiki never mentions it in Ramayana.
Give me the reference and shloka from Valmiki Ramayana.
It's so amazing. Now I want to read valmiki ramayan myself. Such a great podcast❤❤❤❤❤ loved it
Ravana had high 'worldly knowledge' but low character !!
Intelligence = knowledge + character
He was unable to subdue the shadripu (six enemies): kama krodha lobha madd moha matsarya.
This is why many who are brilliant students may not have good characters, ethics, morality and values...
You have misconception with the reality of Ravan
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 if you didn't read ramayan go watch old ramayana when he try to reach mata sita in Ashok vatika
The voice from heaven reminds him of the curse which a Rishi whose wife is raped by him gave to him
That his all head is breaken into pieces
If don't know how to read please listen when watching
💪💪💪Brilliant and thought provoking. Thank you.
🏹🇮🇳🏹🕉️🏹 Jai Sri Ram. Jai Hind. India First.
Ami ji, you need to get this across to everyone
Your explanation is so beautiful and simple
Please do share this with the rest 🙏
The destiny part ... I felt this was meant to be for me today
Thank you 🙏
Excellent analysis jai Sri Ram
Who was Ravana?
Ravana’s birth-name was Dashanana. His father was Vishravas s/o brahmin sage Pulastya, who is believed to hail from village Bisrakh in Haryana. His mother was Kaikesi, daughter of the Rakshasa King - Sumali. Ravana married Mandodari, the daughter of the divine architect Maya.
Thus, contrary to what the leftists tell their confused followers, Ravana was neither Dravidian nor a sudra nor oppressed. He was a North Indian brahmin, very well connected and belonged to the royalty.
What did Ravana do?
Ravana did tapas and got a boon from Brahma that none but humans could kill him. Empowered by this boon, he took away Lanka and Pushpaka Vimana from his cousin Kubera, conquered many regions with the help of his family and even subjugated the devas.
Marching north he reached Kailasa and threatened Nandi that he would throw Kailasa away with Siva. To carry out this threat he put his hands under the mountain, but Siva put his toe down, trapping Ravana’s hands under the Kailasa. His fingers painfully caught, Dashanana then sang songs praising Siva so loudly, that Siva gave him the name Ravana (which means crying or roaring) and the sword Chandrahasa.
Puffed up by his success, powers and boons, Ravana turned into a bully, serial rapist and eve- teaser, misbehaving even with gods and rishis, earning eighteen curses in the process. It is because of these curses, that some of his atrocities are still known and remembered.
The many rapes by Ravana
When Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man.
Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse
“You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces.”
It is this curse that later kept Sitadevi and many other chaste women safe from Ravana’s depredations, although they still were victim to molestation and insults by him. After this curse, Ravana resorted molestations, humiliation and abductions to cater to his lust, but never committed a rape again.
Rape, Rakshasas and Human Civilization
Rape is a part of Rakshasa culture, and ‘marriage by rape’ is known as ‘rakshasa vivaha’ to the Hindus. Ramayana, which is a story of the destruction of Ravana, is an eternal reminder that rape can have no place in human culture, and that the culture of rapists is bound to be destroyed by divine forces.
Molestations of women by Ravana
Ravana tried to humiliate Punjikadevi, the daughter of Brahma, who reiterated the curse of Nalakubara that he would die with all his ten heads broken if he touched unwilling women. By way of revenge, Ravana took to molesting and misbehaving with women in the presence of their helpless relatives. He humiliated Svahadevi, in the presence of Agni, earning Agni’s curse. When he molested Dvaipayana’s sister in the presence of Dvaipayana, the latter cursed him with humiliation by monkeys. Similar curses were pronounced when he molested Atri’s wife in his presence, and he misbehaved with and humiliated brahmin girls who were bathing in the sea, in the very presence of their mothers.
Once Ravana tried to catch Sulekhadevi, the daughter of Brihaspati after conquering Devaloka. Then Brhaspati cursed that Ravana would die hit by the arrows of Rama.
Some other atrocities of Ravana
Ravana committed innumerable atrocities, some of which are remembered only because of the curses that they fetched him.
He kicked Astavakra, the sage with eight hunches, saying ‘Oh ! handsome fellow ! I shall cure your eight hunches”. This earned him the curse of the sage: “For kicking me, a poor innocent sage, you will be kicked from head to foot and foot to head by vanaras.”
Knowing his perverse proclivities, Vasistha turned down his invitation to teach him Vedas. Owing to this, Vasishsta was imprisoned until the solar King Kuvalayasva rescued him. Vasishta then predicted that Ravana and his family would be destroyed by those born in the solar dynasty.
When Narada refused to explain the meaning of ‘Om’ to him, he threatened to cut off Sri Narada’s tongue, earning the curse, that all his ten heads would be cut off by a man.
Maharsi Maudgalya was once doing the svastika asana, resting his neck on the yogadanda. Seeing him thus, Ravana cut the yogadanda into two with chandrahasa sword. The rishi fell and broke his backbone. This earned Ravana the curse that the chandrahasa (given to him by Siva) would become ineffective.
Once Ravana invited a Vedic brahmin to install the idol of Tripurasundari given to him by Siva. For being late, the brahmin was imprisoned for seven days. This earned him the curse that he would be imprisoned for seven months by a man.
King Anaranya of the solar dynasty sought shelter with him. In our culture, one who takes refuge with us is protected, but Ravana killed Anaranya with a blow on the chest. The dying king cursed him that he would die from the arrows of a prince of the solar dynasty.
Sage Dattatreya had collected water which he consecrated with mantras, in order to bathe the head of his Guru. When Ravana saw this water, he poured it on his own head. Dattatreya cursed him that his head would be polluted by the feet of vanaras.
Conclusion
It can be seen from the above that Ravana was not an admirable character, in spite of his boons, lineage, royal power and worldly success. He was a serial rapist and tormentor of the weak.
Vālmiki says mighty Ravan like other rakshasas he defined himself by his power to subjugate. He ruled through fear, if he wanted something he just grabbed it not bothering whether it was the right thing to do and so he took his stepbrother Kubera's kingdom including the fabulous capital city of Lanka. Ravan captured any woman that took his fancy, however for all the big talk about being strong and powerful he did not have it in him to take Rāma head-on.
He would disrupt sacrifices at their climax, then murder the brahmans. He was savage and wicked, cruel and ruthless, delighting in the misfortune of others. He was Ravana, "he who makes all creatures wail," the terror of all the worlds.
Great sir
Thank you for sharing this story of Ravana. Didn't know he hurt so many others. How could he be such a shivbhakt still be so evil.
Ravan was Avatar of JAY or VIJAY....dwarpal of Vishnu ,, devotee of Vishnu.
Jaya ShreeRaama🙏🙏
Gurudev pranam, you have given very good information which is not known to common people,who love Ramayan. Koti koti dhanyawad.
Jai Shree Ram 🚩🕉️🙏🏼🙂
Happy Diwali to everyone 🙏🏼🙂⭐
It's great to listen Amiji. Thank you Sir for this dialogue with Amiji Ganatra.🙏🚩
According to Wokes and Urduwood, Raavan was a Legend.
Many believers hindus too admire Ravan
Most of us are like Ravan, controlled by our senses and twisted intellect, make decisions based on senses and twisted intellect , this all is part if illusion in which we live• in this illusion senses help to maintain illusion , they tell us that what senses feel or see is reality•
Ravan was just like that but biggest form•••
Best is reading Ashtawakra Geeta to get beyond senses, conditioning of mind•
Otherwise in one way or other we all are miniature Ravans•
According to bhimtas...
Sabhi mitra life mai अष्टांग योग ka bhi palan kare 🙂
Muslims and their supporters can justify ravan just like they justify rapes and crimes of their prophet muhammad and Islamic invaders.
What a wonderful podcast, packed with revelations. Loved it.
👌👌 Hats off for this particular discussion that clears the cobwebs in our minds formed through the narrative peddlers. Salute to Amiji. 🙏🙏
Ami ji changed my pov about many characters of Ramayan as well as Mahabharata. Thank you so much Ami ji an TJD, will always be greatful of you .
@@trira1171 I can only laugh on you calling Maharshi Valmiki and Vyas ji as 'dalit'.
@@trira1171Visit a good doctor
@@trira1171Adharma detected.
May Bhagwan Sri Rama help you out🙏Jai Sri Ram🙏Jai Jai Sri Ram🙏🚩🕉️🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹
@@trira1171 Hahahahhaha your bhimta frustration is not going to change anything.
@@trira1171 The bifurcation of varna was by karma not by birth. Go, read some books for clarification.
Ami Ganatraji's enthusiasm is contagious. Joy on Expressions Sanjayji and Amiji - Eeshwar Banaye Rakhe. Dhanywaad to Both...Ram Ram
रामायण का इतना विस्तृत विवरण व विश्लेषण तो व्यासपीठ पर बैठकर धन कमा रहे साधु संत भी व्याख्या नही कर पाते हैं बहुत ही सराहनीय तार्किकता निर्भीकता सकारात्मकता साहसिकता संवेदनशीलता विषय पर परिचर्चा का आनंद मिला है धन्य हूं आज मैं
Ami is so talented, please Ami write a book on Arthshastra, whats stopping you?
He is already giving class in her channel on that topic.. Search & get knowledge
Ami ji seems to be not only well read but also a practitioner of Dharma. Her knowledge and realisations are very enlightening. 👃
@@trira1171 she is better than those who just trying to create complications...her conclusions based on valmiki ramayan is remarkable....many shops are going to close..
@@trira1171 point out wrongs in her conversation...u will be schooled...if u can't den ..ask ur seniors to point out.
@@trira1171 he was biggest rapist ever existed in this world..before arrival of Mughal and turk invaders in India...this rakshasha...even molested his daughter in law...he even went for mata parvati...wife of bhagwan shiv...whome he started worshiping after getting punishment..and crying for many years..his name was dashagrivh....but because he was crying in pain nd making other afraid of his cry(rava)...he was called ravan by Mahadev..
@@trira1171 There is no "Dalit Vyasa" or even "Dalit Valmiki". Ami Ganatra is absolutely correct in whatever she said exactly from Valmiki Ramayan and even her Mahabharat Podcast. Just because your mind doesn't want to believe the truth, won't make her amateur.
@@trira1171 Idiocy redefined but what else is expected from bhimtas anyway?
Have you even read Ramayan? And just to keep you in the game, knowing well that you'd try to take refuge behind "version", you can literally take up any version of Ramayan.
Ravan used to abduct virgin girls of sages and devas to rape them. He raped celestial nymph Punjikasthala who was enroute to meet Pitamah Brahma and for that, Lord Brahma cursed Ravan that his head would burst if he tried to enforce himself on any woman. That's why he could not rape Maa Sita.
And even Maa Sita would've burned her merely by the merit of her austerities. But Shri Ram was born and tasked to kill Ravan, which is why she didn't.
And just fyi, neither Vyasa nor Valmiki was a dalit. 😂😂😂😂
She is just spitting facts from the Book
Thise who have read the Valmiki Ramayana know this 🧡🙏
Pl use polite words. She is doing g what she is asked of.
@shailagnostic6259 Getting envious of Ami?
@@mohandhi3389 mannnnn
I praised her tht she is spitting facts.
I'm her old fan
What is wrong with u guys
@@shailagnostic6259 spitting is a wrong usage
I understand ravana as an example that says that you could be extremely talented, skilled, brave person yet you could be evil. purity and innocence are a greater than any skill. sadly ravan didn't understand this. Blinded by arrogance.
After reading your statement, I still stand with my conclusion. Thanks.
@@trira1171 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@trira1171 so true but I think iske liye context thoda alag hona chahiye. In lines ne mujhe tab sabse jyada hit Kiya tha. Jab Geeta me shree krishna ne Arjun kayar bola tha Or samjhaya tha.
@@trira1171 Being a principled person does not mean you are weak. Knowing when to speak up and qhen to keep silent is a sign of a knowledgeable person. Get yourself educated about the scriptures and then come and type comments in the comment section. Yudhisthira was a noble man. He never spoke lies (barring the time when he said Aswathama has died to Drona during the war in Kurukshetra). Yudhisthira was the only Pandava who reached Vaikuntha (the ultimate heaven). The rest of his brothers who were valiant and strong fell into hell. Only Yudhisthira reached Vaikuntha because he had acheived the only victory that matters in the world- victory over himself (victory over his shortcomings). He had achieved Jaya rather than running after Vijaya (victory over others).
विपरीत बुद्धि विनाश काले 😅
Deepavali ke shubh avsar par Ramayan ka sahi gyan dene ke liye bahut bahut aabhar. Jai Shri Ram🚩
Deepavali ki shubhkamnaye jai shree Ram 🕉🙏
जय श्री राम 🚩🚩🚩
दिपावली की हार्दिक शुभकामनाये🪔
As a Hindu I feel ashamed....
for not knowing the real Ramayan & believed in Leftist narratives of Ramayan. I have many friends who still don't know the truth. Thank you Ami ji 🚩👍
I am in love with her...purest form of love...I love u Ami..ur voice is so karnpriya
Thank you so much
So wonderfully explained
I hope this goes across to the rest of our Bharat vasis
So wow
Thank you
it's a subtle effect of kaliyug that the majority of people supporting & getting attracted by evil personas even though the truth is clear in front of them
It's kalki he will bring back ravana it's written in Vedas so let's see
@@Anu23975 where can you tell me particular point to read that?
अब तक का सबसे ज्ञान वर्धक एपिसोड । बाबाओं और पंडो बूलीवुडियो ने इतना मिक्सिंग कर दी है कि जो असली काम की बात है जो मार्ग दर्सन कर सकती है वो छूट गई पीछे। वालमिकी रामायण में अतिसंयोक्ति नहीँ है इसलिए वर्तमान और दैनिक जीवन मे धारण करना आसान है।
बहोत बहोत धन्यवान मैं संस्कृत सीखूंगा ताकि किसी तीसरे की जरूरत न पड़े। कास ये पॉडकास्ट 20 साल पहले मिला होता।
The more analysis of The Ramanaya the better. Ish tarah ki manthan chalna chahiye doost Rajniti hattane ke liye. Jay SriRam
Simply amazing. We want a full series on ramayan and Mahabharat with her.many Pranams to this vidushi lady
We want another podcast with her....!! ❤Bring her back.
बिल्कुल अद्भूत है आमि को सुनना इतना गहराई के साथ विश्लेषण अबतक कभी भी नही सुना ,धन्यवाद आमि जी और संजय जी को
संजयजी आप का लाख लाख धन्यवाद कि आपने इतनी अभ्यासपूर्ण और सच्ची बाते हमे बताई। अमी गणात्रा जी सचमुच विदुषी है। उन्हे शत शत नमन
nice podcast .we want such type of podcast.Jai Shree Ram😍
जब दो विद्वान साथ बैठते है तो ठिक ऐसा ही सुंदर और सुलभ ज्ञान का दर्शन होता है। बहुत ही ज्ञानवर्धक एपिसोड था और आगे ऐसी ही ज्ञान की अभिलाषा करता हुँ आपसे ... धन्यवाद🙏🙏🙏🙏
She's brilliant narrator and knowledgeable women, what a superb said real ramayan
Whatever she said is absolutely true. .
बहुत सुन्दर प्रस्तुति दी गई है और इस तरह की विदुषी महिलाओं या अतिथियों से जयपुर डायलॉग खुद में गर्वित महसूस करता होगा।
Ami ji ko baar baar sunne ka man karta hai, her diction is so good 👍
Just mesmerising... 🙏🏹जय श्री राम🏹🙏
After years of confusion finally I got real story of ahilya❤
After listening to her I feel like what we learnt about Ramayan is like learning abcd of the English language. The depth and essence of Valmiki Ramayan is destroyed in subsequent versions and current movies are taken to opposite direction of the motto of the ethihas. Like Ravan is a good man and Ram has bad qualities.
I have started reading the Valmiki Ramayana (Gita Press translation). It is so different from the popular versions, and so much deeper. Just too many variations that bastardize the original Ramayana.
संजयजी, बहुतही सुन्दर ज्ञानवर्धक चर्चा केलिये साधुवाद
57:34 this reminds us, of description of beauty of rani Padmini by an expelled Rajput?
1:03:21 artificial intelligence deep...
I just love Amiji 👏👏🥰🥰.. Beautiful😍 soul.. Pranaam Acharya🙏🙏.. Such an amazing👍👍🤩 Outstanding mind perforating narrative of REAL RAMYANAM.. JAI SHRI RAM🙏🙏 🌸🌸💐💐
Don’t want this podcast to end. Such a beautiful conversation. 🙏🏼
Ami ji ko SiyaRam ji ka ashirwaad sadaiv praapt rahe, ucch koti ka gyaan aur avlokan. Aur Bharat ke Devarshi Dixit jee ko sahastrapranaams 😊
Five more questions should have been asked as per Valmiki Ramayan
1. Hanuman ji did not increase or decrease in size. He increased his confidence to find Sita Ji. He decreased his ego by becoming humble and humility before Sita ji.
2. Hanuman ji swam the whole ocean of 100 miles to reach Lanka. Did not fly. He went into the mouth of a whirlpool and came out of its tail. He fought with sea animal like crocodile.
3. Lakshman ji and Ram ji were badly injured twice. 1st time Garud like Eagle man helped in bringing aushud/ medicinal plants from nearby mountain. 2nd time Hanuman brought it again from nearby mountain and not flown to Himalaya and brought a mountain. The effort of bringing those medicinal plants was like lifting a mountain.
4. After defeating Ravan, Ram ji informed Vibishan to perform last rituald on Ravan. Vibishan rejected. Ram advised to do it else he will do it for Ravan on behalf of Vibhishan. Vibhishan realised his mistake and performed the rituals.
5. Last but not the least. Ram asked Vibhishan to bring Sita ji well dressed with ornaments in front of him. Vibhishan was startled but went to Sita ji. Sitaji also asked why she should be dressed in good before Ram ji instead she could neet Ramji immediatly. But Vibhishan informed that it was Ram order.
Sita ji was guven Rani dress with ornaments and brought in front of Ram ji. Vanars and Rakshasas who were alive were seeing this meeting and came forward to see what is happening. Vibhishan and Sugreev ordered to stay back.
Ram ji allowed everyone to see this meeting. Everyone were startled.
Then Sita ji came infornt of Ram but was shy and embarrased as she was in center of attraction now.
Ram then thundered these hurting words, that Sitaji now you are free and Ramji won this war to protect the name of his kingdom not for Sita. Now that she is free she can marry Lakshman, Sugreev or Vibhishan or anyone else.
Sita burst into sadness and anger and replied back thunderously that she loved only Ramji and no one else. If Ramji cannot accept her then it is better for her to die in fire and ordered Lakshman to bring the set up for fire for her sacrifice of life.
Lakshman became angry and gave an angry look at Ram to which Ram gave a different nod to brung in the fire setup.
By that time the whole people around Vibhishan, Sugreev, Vanars, Rakshasa and Devas came to Sita ji side and explained to Ramji about her plight and her helplessness and her good charactor who fought against Ravan and dod not succumb.
Ram ji initially did not accept and waited for more people to say the same thing. When everyone requested Ram ji that Sitaji is pure then Ram ji accepted their request and hugged Sita ji lovely.
So the point here was Ramji wanted Sita ji to wear nice dress so that people should not see her in a down manner as she was weary and tired in Ashok Vatika.
Also it was Sita ji who said she will die in fire.
Ramji set this situation for everyone to accept that Sita ji was pure as he knew Sita ji than anyone else, but wanted everyone to respect Sita ji for generations to come and no one say a thing bad of Sita ji.
Ramji was in this case also successful that even today no one dares to say bad of Sita ji charactor. But Ramji took the poison of bad mouthing for generations to come that even today Ramji is questioned of his rude behaviour against Sita ji.
Hope everyone is clarified in this. Adding these 5 question would have made Ramayan as a whole expplained and expoaed the leftist agenda.
Jo baaki that wo pura kar diya.
Jai Sri Ram Jai Sita Ma. Jai Hanuman.
she covers this questions in an another podcast by beer biceps n its not her fault that the podcaster didn't ask the questions
Mesmerizing podcast.. loved it
Wonderful podcast.. Got goosebumps
I learned so much from this. I’m so grateful god made me listen to this podcast. Can’t believe I get to be so fortunate.
I'm feeling like I'm enlightened ❤,thanks to our legends and their destiny ❤
Best debate on epic Ramayana...
please stop telling others before reading, read rishi valmiki ramayana, ravana was a serial offender, he did the rape activities not once , but multiple times, it's because of the apsara curse , he was scared of matha sita. no need to glorify ravana when lord rama is a born hero. dont give us unnecessary gyan reading woke scriptures and glorifying ravana . ravana might be a pandit but that doesnt make him a great. some people are perturbed just because ravana truth is coming out . great conversation need to be shared across hindus , people who think they are Hindus will be disturbed for sure. jai shri rama
just because ravana got a boon from lord shiva, he cannot be a offender. what kind of shrewd logic is this. getting a boon is a process , lot of rakshasas followed the process and got boons from lord shiva . however a boon doesnt protect a adharmic . lord vishnu is also there to take of these offenders. har har mahadev, jai shrikrishna.
Ami ji is amazing! A fountain of knowledge. Could listen to her talk on our epics for hours.
I really wish Valmiki Ramayan to be introduced from 1st standard till higher classes in schools part by part. Like this we can inculcate this gem of a knowledge into kid’s mind from a very early stage.
Amazing podcast. This was best way to learn the history of Ramayana.