Ehh depending on what walkers you have in your deck. Alot of them just stop people killing you or you just win the game on the spot. For example, in my atraxa deck, i have quite literally drawn my deck using tamiyos ult
The lore behind tefiri's name is that on innistrad the nights have been getting longer days shorter, some witches are trying to help the humans by preforming an ancient ritual and they use the celestial and tolovar is trying to stop them basically
Mark Rosewater has said that Emblems are something that there will never be an effect that removes them (which was supposed to be true for poison but leeches)
Man, I like how this Card looks. It’s gonna be hard slotting it into Kenrith though since seedborn muse already exists and this requires you to have to ult teferi
@@saqvobase4301 Which means the only way for the effect to be stopped is making the player with the emblem get knocked out. I'd much rather lose my Muse to removal when other players get scared of it and not outright be made to lose, than effectively say "the only way you can get rid of my Seedborn effect ASAP is by making me lose ASAP".
I play a lot of things like arbor elf and utopia sprawl in my kenrith deck already. The +1 of this teferi is insane enough for this kind of mana ramp and the ult makes it even better
I don't think there's any Teferi planeswalker that I'd be happy to see across the table from me, but THIS one in particular... I think I'd be the least upset about it.
Just letting you know, tapping the creature down, does nothing in this case. It gets to untap on their turn. Taping a creature down is meant to be used offensively. When the control player is ready to attack, tap the enemy blocker to guarantee you hit.
Oops I missed that. Oh well, 2 out of 3 isn't so bad. I guess there's always a turn 1 creature that could be left there to block, and we can get a free swing off if we really wanted to utilize the creature tap/untap. t5feri +1 to hold up lightning helix/counterspell to protect himself was a decent tempo play. He doesn't offer himself creature protection if he does that route and yet it's still a nice play, so maybe it might work for new teferi too?
Tefi in general is extremely weak to edict effects,activated and triggered abilities and generally plays out as having little to nothing to do and or useless effects vs those types of decks
Awesome episode! I've been excited for this card. I run Sisay for commander and thought to mention Vorenclex, Monstrous Raider as an excellent doubler also. The best part in Sisay is that she can search for Vorenclex as a legendary and guarantee a way to insta-alt planeswalkers.
To be fair Teferi does ramp a lot. Untapping a land and rock in the same turn you play it can allow you to keep up action to kinda protect it or interact. Imagine T1 Land Sol Ring. T2 Teferi and can play a 3 drop the same turn. Then T 3 8 mana?
use oath of teferi as well you get to use him twice in a turn, and when it enters the battle feild you can bonce something you control. i feel like that is one of the best things to combo with that new card
Have you checked out the Forgotten Archangel yet her affect is pretty cool it locks your opponent out of their graveyard by preventing them from having one while also giving all of your creatures that go to the graveyard the ability to come back to your hand
On the bright side, this card seems outright awful and overcosted for its mediocre non-ultimate abilities. For people that like Teferi and like this art, it'll be a cheap pickup!
I know this is a commander channel but since it’s coming in a standard set and actually looks really strong for blue/white strategies in a newly rotated standard. So I actually expect it to probably be one of the chase cards for the set and be fairly expensive as a result.
@@absolutionis why not run both? And yes the goal is to ult every walker...thats why Vorinclex and Carth and Doubling Season and Chain Veil and Oath of Teferi...
How is it overcosted if it can basically generate mana the turn it comes in ? If you have say just a mana rock and an elf, it basically cost you 1 mana to put him on the board and heal 2 life. And it's not really hard to come up with a deck where you could get even more value then 1 mana for untapping an artefact. In the right deck it can go easily out of hand.
I never judge a plainwalker by its "ultimate". It's rare they ever get to do it, like in the realm of perfect Christmas land scenarios. I mean it has 4 loyalty. You cast it and plus it by 1 to 5. You need an additional 3 turns to activate it. It's not going to happen.
@@Draco9909 that's not getting rid of the emblem though. That's countering the ability that makes it. Same end result of no emblem, but not what the discussion is about
@@SovereignwindVODs I've always seen counters as a way to remove stuff. It's just doing so before it hits the board instead of after it's already on said board. 🤷♂️
@@SovereignwindVODs to be fair if someone lets a emblem hit that means 1. Nobody had removal. 2. Nobody was paying attention in the slightest. 3. They managed to hold everyone else off long enough to get it and deserve a emblem for the effort. Or 4. They had doubling season and no one had a counterspell saved like they SHOULD have until the season was destroyed.
721.1. One card (Karn Liberated) restarts the game. A game that is restarted immediately ends. No players in that game win, lose, or draw that game. All players in that game when it ended then start a new game following the procedures set forth in rule 103, “Starting the Game,” with the following exception: 721.1a The starting player in the new game is the player who controlled the spell or ability that restarted the game. This would end all emblems
It looks like it does, any land that taps for two plus a creature that taps for two will do it If you want to do it in White Blue you can: Apprentice Wizard (pay u tap: add 3 mana)+ Azorius Chancery (tap: add wu) + The Chain Veil Or a Fatesticher (tap: tap or untap target permanent) effect + Guideless Commons (tap: add 2 mana)
I don't think emblems disappears even of that player is dead. Alltho an emblem to a dead player is not worth much, but say if you got an emblem from chandra awakened inferno. You still take damage even if the player that play that plainswalker is dead.
Wouldn't a card that says "destroy target permant." Or "destroy target nonland permanent," Destroy a emblem? There is tokens for emblems, which would make them permanents... Or am I just wrong?
Can someone clarify that to use the first ability to untap something, do you need to target something to tap? For example, if you want to untap your artifact with Teferi's first ability, but the opponent doesn't have an artifact to tap, does it still resolve?
It says "Choose up to one", so you can choose none for any/all of the three choices, and it will still resolve. Don't want to target anything? Just throw a +1 on him, move towards that ult
It’s defence isn’t great. Anticipate is nice but not what I’d want my minus to be. I think I’d have to be playing doubling season for me to be interested
There is one and only one card that removes emblems. That card is Karn Liberated. His ultimate will restart the game which gets rid of the emblems. Not an easy task tho.
Holy Maccaroni, Wizards really. Why do you have to Jayce Teferi in Gideon Stile? I know hes a planeswalker etc. but the mere amount of Teferis we get in every other set it just getting plain annoying.
I hate planeswalkers. they are drastically unbalanced and never fun to play against. they, at worst, just make you have to target another thing with attacks and not just the player, and the fact that their + abilities are free and beneficial is extremely dumb. + abilities should be a negative to use so you can build up to the positive ones. this is just "tap or untap 3 creatures, gain 4 life" for free, every turn. and that alone is broken.
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When ever you ultimate a Planeswalker and you get an emblem, you usually become the archenemy.
In fairness, being the archenemy doesn't sound too bad when you have the same number of untap and draw steps as the opposition
@@soorian6493 Agree 100% . It's the only way to beat someone with an powerful emblem.
Ehh depending on what walkers you have in your deck. Alot of them just stop people killing you or you just win the game on the spot. For example, in my atraxa deck, i have quite literally drawn my deck using tamiyos ult
Truly, but if you get perma-seedborne muse, you can take on 3 people
Unless you give ob nixilis’ emblem to the current archenemy
The lore behind tefiri's name is that on innistrad the nights have been getting longer days shorter, some witches are trying to help the humans by preforming an ancient ritual and they use the celestial and tolovar is trying to stop them basically
Nice
If they wanted to name Teferi in a way that is more fitting of the theme in Innistrad, he could have been "Teferi, who delays the night"
@@UltimaAzN yeah that does sound better
Mark Rosewater has said that Emblems are something that there will never be an effect that removes them (which was supposed to be true for poison but leeches)
mark also said that WoTC has nothing to do with the secondary card market. The very existence of the reserve list proves otherwise.
Duff Man says a lot of things!
That would be a sick card... mass wipe for emblems... a man can dream
There is one currently legal card that removes emblems- Karen liberated. Restarting the game does that.
@@dbptwg yeah Wizards isn't my favorite company right now
Man, I like how this Card looks. It’s gonna be hard slotting it into Kenrith though since seedborn muse already exists and this requires you to have to ult teferi
But with this teferi, the untap ultimate effect can't be removed
@@saqvobase4301 Which means the only way for the effect to be stopped is making the player with the emblem get knocked out. I'd much rather lose my Muse to removal when other players get scared of it and not outright be made to lose, than effectively say "the only way you can get rid of my Seedborn effect ASAP is by making me lose ASAP".
I play a lot of things like arbor elf and utopia sprawl in my kenrith deck already. The +1 of this teferi is insane enough for this kind of mana ramp and the ult makes it even better
Imagine Turn 1: yavimaya, cradle of growth + arbor elf
Turn 2: simic growth chamber + utopia sprawl
Turn 3: Teferi + 9 open mana
I could even see him in modern decks with arbor elf + utopia sprawl when i think about it
Oh no. Teferi planswalkers...
Bant ramp superfriends will take over I'm calling it
@@koruto721 vorinclex on the field means he can ult on set turn.
I don't think there's any Teferi planeswalker that I'd be happy to see across the table from me, but THIS one in particular... I think I'd be the least upset about it.
Play a mana rock turn 2, drop teferi on 3, tap a threatening creature, untap your rock and a land to hold up a counterspell/removal.
Delicious tempo!
Just letting you know, tapping the creature down, does nothing in this case. It gets to untap on their turn.
Taping a creature down is meant to be used offensively. When the control player is ready to attack, tap the enemy blocker to guarantee you hit.
Oops I missed that. Oh well, 2 out of 3 isn't so bad. I guess there's always a turn 1 creature that could be left there to block, and we can get a free swing off if we really wanted to utilize the creature tap/untap.
t5feri +1 to hold up lightning helix/counterspell to protect himself was a decent tempo play. He doesn't offer himself creature protection if he does that route and yet it's still a nice play, so maybe it might work for new teferi too?
Imagine Teferi turn 2 after playing Sol Ring, Azorius Signet on turn 1
Tefi in general is extremely weak to edict effects,activated and triggered abilities and generally plays out as having little to nothing to do and or useless effects vs those types of decks
Yea, i dont see this card in control deck, only for ramp
Awesome episode! I've been excited for this card. I run Sisay for commander and thought to mention Vorenclex, Monstrous Raider as an excellent doubler also. The best part in Sisay is that she can search for Vorenclex as a legendary and guarantee a way to insta-alt planeswalkers.
To be fair Teferi does ramp a lot. Untapping a land and rock in the same turn you play it can allow you to keep up action to kinda protect it or interact. Imagine T1 Land Sol Ring. T2 Teferi and can play a 3 drop the same turn. Then T 3 8 mana?
Yay now I can have a seedborn muse effect in my Jeskai commander deck
use oath of teferi as well you get to use him twice in a turn, and when it enters the battle feild you can bonce something you control. i feel like that is one of the best things to combo with that new card
What are you doing step-muse?
Wizards physically cannot stop themselves from having 1 Teferi per standard rotation
This…this is why I play vampire hexmage
Have you checked out the Forgotten Archangel yet her affect is pretty cool it locks your opponent out of their graveyard by preventing them from having one while also giving all of your creatures that go to the graveyard the ability to come back to your hand
Literally brainstorm and muse on a plainswalker Jesus !
A Teferi that is balanced is always nice to see after the last 3.
I choose to untap my Palladium Myr, Guildless Commons, and The Chain Veil.
I like the thumb nail as I said the same thing....its a seedborn muse, but not in green or mono blue so...much harder to work with for me.
The new Vorinclex also ultimates a lot of Planeswalkers
Never thought Vorinclex and Teferi would work so well together.
+1 is Mana Ramp :)
T1 Land
Mana Crypt
Mox Amber/Anything
Cast Unferi
Untap Land
Untap Mana Crypt
Love how they make all the Teferi planeswalkers busted
teferi really isn't allowed to leave standard huh
That first ability is actually both which is insane
New super friends staple
On the bright side, this card seems outright awful and overcosted for its mediocre non-ultimate abilities. For people that like Teferi and like this art, it'll be a cheap pickup!
I know this is a commander channel but since it’s coming in a standard set and actually looks really strong for blue/white strategies in a newly rotated standard. So I actually expect it to probably be one of the chase cards for the set and be fairly expensive as a result.
Vorinclex just lets you ultimate all walkers immediately (except for Karn Liberated i think)...
@@ericvernon1182 If you're running green, then you run Seedborn Muse. If your goal is to instantly ult planeswalkers, there are more devastating ults.
@@absolutionis why not run both? And yes the goal is to ult every walker...thats why Vorinclex and Carth and Doubling Season and Chain Veil and Oath of Teferi...
How is it overcosted if it can basically generate mana the turn it comes in ? If you have say just a mana rock and an elf, it basically cost you 1 mana to put him on the board and heal 2 life. And it's not really hard to come up with a deck where you could get even more value then 1 mana for untapping an artefact. In the right deck it can go easily out of hand.
Teferis back!
was he ever gone?
A little bit
I never judge a plainwalker by its "ultimate". It's rare they ever get to do it, like in the realm of perfect Christmas land scenarios. I mean it has 4 loyalty. You cast it and plus it by 1 to 5. You need an additional 3 turns to activate it. It's not going to happen.
What about Gilder Bairn?
I am trying to build a deck around that with planeswalkers. Gilder Bairn is hard to find at stores.
I don't shop online.
Karn Liberated's ultimate ability that restarts the game is only way i know that gets rid of emblems.
Im surprised you didn't mention the enchantment oath of tefari. It's literally just chainveil but you don't have to pay 4 mana every turn
The only way to get ride of an ult right now is to restart the game with a karn ult
Or counter the ability while it's on the stack
@@Draco9909 that's not getting rid of the emblem though. That's countering the ability that makes it. Same end result of no emblem, but not what the discussion is about
@@SovereignwindVODs I've always seen counters as a way to remove stuff. It's just doing so before it hits the board instead of after it's already on said board. 🤷♂️
@@Draco9909 right, I get that, but the discussion was about removing an active emblem.
@@SovereignwindVODs to be fair if someone lets a emblem hit that means
1. Nobody had removal.
2. Nobody was paying attention in the slightest.
3. They managed to hold everyone else off long enough to get it and deserve a emblem for the effort.
Or 4. They had doubling season and no one had a counterspell saved like they SHOULD have until the season was destroyed.
i love cards who break parity with stasis ;)
Not gonna lie, I am kinda tired of all the formats with a busted Teferi, or as many people still prefer to call him, 3rd-feri.
721.1. One card (Karn Liberated) restarts the game. A game that is restarted immediately ends. No players in that game win, lose, or draw that game. All players in that game when it ended then start a new game following the procedures set forth in rule 103, “Starting the Game,” with the following exception:
721.1a The starting player in the new game is the player who controlled the spell or ability that restarted the game.
This would end all emblems
Wait...with the right setup, does this infinite with chain veil?
It looks like it does, any land that taps for two plus a creature that taps for two will do it
If you want to do it in White Blue you can:
Apprentice Wizard (pay u tap: add 3 mana)+ Azorius Chancery (tap: add wu) + The Chain Veil
Or a Fatesticher (tap: tap or untap target permanent) effect + Guideless Commons (tap: add 2 mana)
Always liked this type of effect but think it's too powerful when it isn't restrictive.
I need him for my Merieke Ri Berit deck.
I'd run that in my pinger deck. Derevi as the commander
This Teferi, like almost all Teferis, makes me want to finally fix up my superfriends deck
I don't think emblems disappears even of that player is dead.
Alltho an emblem to a dead player is not worth much, but say if you got an emblem from chandra awakened inferno. You still take damage even if the player that play that plainswalker is dead.
Teferí, weird way to spell "kill on sight" but ok
To remove emblems you have to use the kharn ultimate that resets the game
Wouldn't a card that says "destroy target permant." Or "destroy target nonland permanent," Destroy a emblem? There is tokens for emblems, which would make them permanents... Or am I just wrong?
Its going in my jodah fist of suns deck
YESSSSS! Moar Teferi!
Ummm yeah this card is really good and it's another sisay combo piece
Can someone clarify that to use the first ability to untap something, do you need to target something to tap? For example, if you want to untap your artifact with Teferi's first ability, but the opponent doesn't have an artifact to tap, does it still resolve?
It says "Choose up to one", so you can choose none for any/all of the three choices, and it will still resolve. Don't want to target anything? Just throw a +1 on him, move towards that ult
@@anthonyhurlbut346 Thanks, so I can choose an artifact I have to untap and don't have to tap anything on the opponent's side?
@@joelombardi4907 Correct, which is awesome, because it means you can untap your own stuff to give you pseudo-ramp
I believe using Karn, Liberated's ultimate is the only way to get rid of emblems.
It’s defence isn’t great. Anticipate is nice but not what I’d want my minus to be. I think I’d have to be playing doubling season for me to be interested
What a badass name
Can't wait to play Teferi Tribal in modern
There is one and only one card that removes emblems. That card is Karn Liberated. His ultimate will restart the game which gets rid of the emblems. Not an easy task tho.
Nice...7 Terferi's for my Atraxa superfriends...I'm sure everything will be fine...for me of course, not my opponents...
You forgot vorinclex along side doubling season
This card is good just a bummer that the untap effect is the ultimate, really hard to get there in commander.
You didn't tell about Vorinclex from Kaldheim.
Imagine that in Aminatou
What in the absolute fudge is this Walker?!?!?! Can we all say: broken! If not maybe: busted!
Oh wait never mind read that wrong would be insane
God damn it his ultimate goes off immediately with doubling season I already know who in my playgroup is abusing that
Just throw in a ley line of anticipation and your golden
I need this more than water
Well you could reset the game that gets rid of emblem's (Karn, librated)
-2 pseudo scry 3 + draw, seems decent
Lol, stasis will love this xD
Tefear me for this isn't even my final form
WHY IS THERE A TEFERI IN EVERY OTHER SET
Sissay+Jegantha could probably use this
Karn Liberated ultimate can remove emblems.
Estrid and chainveil
Karn Liberated restarting the game is the only way to remove emblems currently in the game
Why do I think I feel like the immortal sun will have a price spike?
karn can remove emblems when he resets the game just a heads up, but its basically not something that happens
dont think so. emblems arent permanents he would exile
i was wrong
This gonna go Good in my estrid friends deck.
I just bought my first copy of Seedborn Must 4 days ago :(
That will work faster and nicer in most situations, worry not!
It's ridiculous that it ults with doubling season right away
You can use karn liberated to restart the game
Holy Maccaroni, Wizards really. Why do you have to Jayce Teferi in Gideon Stile? I know hes a planeswalker etc. but the mere amount of Teferis we get in every other set it just getting plain annoying.
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You can remove emblems by restarting the game with Karn Liberated. That's about it haha
dont think so. karn removes all permanents and emblems arent permanents to be exiled.
nvm i was wrong. doesnt target
@@jaredjames3933 Nope, look up the rulings. "Players won't have any counters or emblems they had in the original game"
Atraxa time
This card is busted. They seriously had to add the gain 2 life part!? Like is this not strong enough
Umm vorinclex is still gonna be legal this will be fun lmao
Ah sh*t here we go again
Just Ult Karn Liberated, restarting the game removes all emblems
Karn liberated can ult to reset the game that should remove emblems
More quality less quantity..this Channel is no longer budget edh deckbuilds
"the really exciting thing about this walker is his ulti"...bro his +1 wins the game on the spot....
Mitch can you please shorten the intro, I don’t want to wait 2 full minutes for the point of the video
That tapping/untapping on a plus is disgusting, ugh. How is that only a 4 mana walker?
how exactly does he "slow the sunset"? flavor wise, this cards is poop. doesn't even stop day from changing a little bit
God Im so sick of teferi... Can we go more than two sets without one please? It feels more often but I know it isn't
Stop printing Teferi's. I'm so sick of every one of them
Ok but why though...
I hate planeswalkers. they are drastically unbalanced and never fun to play against. they, at worst, just make you have to target another thing with attacks and not just the player, and the fact that their + abilities are free and beneficial is extremely dumb. + abilities should be a negative to use so you can build up to the positive ones. this is just "tap or untap 3 creatures, gain 4 life" for free, every turn. and that alone is broken.
Karn can get rid of emblems
This teferi is anything but amazing compared to his dominaria and wots printings. He is worse than Jace, architect of thought the way he is.