You want to get the stretch at bottom as that is the stretch that will greatly affect you muscle growth. It's also ok to arch at the top to get the peak contraction so that you don't skimp out on your upper back; you're already there so might as well just go all the way up to work those muscle groups.
In my 3x week FBW I've been doing barbell rows for the back and this week was at 65.0 8x3 + some reps and had a lot of space for more but didn't feel the back muscles at all for like two weeks straight, repaced rowing with T bar and now I can do max 45.0 8x3 with not a single extra :D back burns like hell, it truly is a good one.
To me the extra stretch does help out and I've seen a better gains. But to your point it's not fun to do it all the time as it does put strain on your elbow. Thanks for the video I will try it this way next time.
I agree. And the scaps should move apart and wrap forward (protract) and together and back (retract) during the RoM to fully work the upper back muscles.
Try experimenting with how high you lie on the pad. Unfortunately most of these machines don't have a height adjustment but the whole point of using a back supported machine is to take the strain off the back.
@@jrippon lately I figured that this exercice is just not for me even after fixing that it seems like i have a hard time breathing its the only exercice where I stop not bc of muscle failure but bc I lost my breath
I'm also 6'5 and I do the exact same. I find that I need to place more of the weight in my hips/pelvis when doing this, otherwise I tend to have too much pressure on my chest.
@@matthewcronshaw9331 same here. It’s difficult to breathe if I don’t focus on planting my feet and kind of relying heavily on my legs as support. Do you think that it’s counterproductive?
@@sirsmalls4565 I don't see how to avoid it. The foot pad at my gym is clearly designed for someone way shorter aha. I also have to sit on the floor when doing lat pulldowns, so I don't think it's crazy to use alternative techniques due to height.
Well absolutely, we always go down for maximum stretch then ring that bell as you bang the bar off of the pad rack. So to your point, you have to lift your chest a bit off the pad. I always want to squeeze my shoulder blades together and take a breath.
It won't be the end of the world but ask yourself honestly why you do it. It can only be that you're having to assist lifting the weight with your lower back, which is not what you're doing the exercise for. Aka ego lifting. Just use less weight so you can concentrate on using the upper back and rear delts.
T bar row is one of the most under rated back movements in the gym. A lot of gyms have gotten rid of it, but now people realize how good they are.
My gym just got the machine for this and I could not have been more excited to do back days
You want to get the stretch at bottom as that is the stretch that will greatly affect you muscle growth. It's also ok to arch at the top to get the peak contraction so that you don't skimp out on your upper back; you're already there so might as well just go all the way up to work those muscle groups.
In my 3x week FBW I've been doing barbell rows for the back and this week was at 65.0 8x3 + some reps and had a lot of space for more but didn't feel the back muscles at all for like two weeks straight, repaced rowing with T bar and now I can do max 45.0 8x3 with not a single extra :D back burns like hell, it truly is a good one.
To me the extra stretch does help out and I've seen a better gains. But to your point it's not fun to do it all the time as it does put strain on your elbow. Thanks for the video I will try it this way next time.
I agree. And the scaps should move apart and wrap forward (protract) and together and back (retract) during the RoM to fully work the upper back muscles.
I can't breathe while doing this 🥲🤕
You should nt
Pause after 2 reps and get some fresh air and continue.
Same 😅
u need to engage ur core so that the chest support doesnt sink into abdominal muscles.
Don’t bother 😂😂..should only be 30-45 seconds
I dont agree extend all the way and get that stretch. Leaving gains on the table bud
Exactly what I looking for. thanks sir
solid advice
short and concise 👏🏽 thanks!
Love their videos! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽💯
Fantastic, thanks 👍
stretch at the bottom are all the gains
Thank you boss
lookin good Kyle, good to see you still making content again!
Thank you for this!!
Lower lats effetive or not ?
this exercice puts a lot of strain on my lower back its as if the bar is trying to pull me backwards when I try to pull it up.. any advice ?
Try experimenting with how high you lie on the pad. Unfortunately most of these machines don't have a height adjustment but the whole point of using a back supported machine is to take the strain off the back.
@@jrippon lately I figured that this exercice is just not for me even after fixing that it seems like i have a hard time breathing its the only exercice where I stop not bc of muscle failure but bc I lost my breath
Cool but how do you do it and not have it crush your lungs? I need oxygen in the gym 😅
Damn it hurts my chest I've seen a different version of this machine the pads not too high up
Yes dude actually im feeling like the bones are pressurised
Frfr looks like my chest gonna explode when I put too much weight on it lol
I feel like rolling over while I do this
I hate this machine can I do it with just dumbbells? Any answer
Yes you can do chested supported dumbbell rows instead
I’m 6’5 and if i put my feet on the supports I’m well above the mat. I’ve modified it by just placing my feet on the floor do you think that is okay?
I'm also 6'5 and I do the exact same. I find that I need to place more of the weight in my hips/pelvis when doing this, otherwise I tend to have too much pressure on my chest.
@@matthewcronshaw9331 same here. It’s difficult to breathe if I don’t focus on planting my feet and kind of relying heavily on my legs as support. Do you think that it’s counterproductive?
@@sirsmalls4565 I don't see how to avoid it. The foot pad at my gym is clearly designed for someone way shorter aha.
I also have to sit on the floor when doing lat pulldowns, so I don't think it's crazy to use alternative techniques due to height.
It's lazy design that most of these machines don't have a height adjustment.
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Me getting lower back pain
Think you could lift up the back of the machine to make it less inclined?
Think about it from a mechanical view.... it will most likely tip over if you use a high weight unless its bolted down ofcourse
Is lifting off the pad really that bad?
Is it okay to lift your chest a bit off the pad though? My ego man 😂
Well absolutely, we always go down for maximum stretch then ring that bell as you bang the bar off of the pad rack. So to your point, you have to lift your chest a bit off the pad. I always want to squeeze my shoulder blades together and take a breath.
Shit I always lift my chest off the pad sometimes a little more than I’d like but I definitely feel it on my back
@@TrapKingz. same but i do lift my chest off the pad a tad bit less now and feel it a lot more
It won't be the end of the world but ask yourself honestly why you do it. It can only be that you're having to assist lifting the weight with your lower back, which is not what you're doing the exercise for. Aka ego lifting. Just use less weight so you can concentrate on using the upper back and rear delts.
@@jrippon dont worry. I now use proper form
Not a good formed
U shd invest in a good mic first
Yeah tx for nothing