KZ x HBB PR2 Review
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- KZ is intent on taking over the world with budget IEMs and its latest weapon is the KZ x HBB PR2 planar magnetic.
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PSA. YOU GOT AN ORIGINAL RUN PAIR. KZ has since changed these, they removed the black sheet of tuning foam from the driver that you can see and they are completely and utterly ruined. Unlistenably hot, wildly unbalanced, not even a subject of taste, they're F tier now. I have both pairs and the originals were truly a segment killer in under $100. Now i wouldnt even pay $10 for them.
Do not buy the pr2, you can't get the good original version anymore. I don't have a clue why KZ did this, but the current PR2 on sale right now is objectively awful for even the most treble happy enjoyers (which I'm among) if you like treble and want a $45 planar, TRN rosefinch covers it. But we're back to no $50 segment planar all rounders
Yes, I wasn't aware of the change until after I published my review. I don't know why KZ continues to sabotage their own products like this.
@@PrimeAudioReviewsnot your fault at all mate! It's such a damn shame. The original version is so good. The revised version is such an unbalanced a dumpster fire of screaming undetailed treble and mids that might as well be played on a slide whistle.
same thing happened to QKZ VK4
@@colinmartin9797 Is it really that bad? Now i'm kinda sad. This was about to be my favorite IEM ever, I heard some audio samples of the (then) decent PR2 and they sounded amazing, almost as if it was a mini Grado. Too bad this happened. Already sent a message to the KZ official store, let's see how it turns out.
I feel scammed..
I have the PR2 without the black mesh and it's fantastic. They changed considerably after a few days of listening (for the better) and I don't get all the hate this version is getting.
Yeah, as long as you are getting a proper seal they should be fine.
x2, recibí los PR2 apenas hace un par de meses. No tienen la malla negra de PROTECCIÓN (dicen de afinación jajaj). También una vez correctamente amplificado me suena ESPECTACULAR, y no solo por su precio, sino en general. Los uso con un MT-602 (1.3w @32ohms), con los tubos Voshkod son muy brillantes para mi gusto. Con los GE JAN 5654w los medios se engrosan un poco, el sub bajo está ahí cuando se lo requiere y los agudos son muy detallados sin lastimar ni ser ásperos. Reconozco que cuanto menos amplificación le ponga, sonarán cada vez más confusos y/o "baratos". La separación es asombrosa y el escenario muy bueno por ser IEM. Pero esa es una cualidad planar en general. Saludos.
These are absolutely insane off a apple donge dac and tidal master.
There is no competition near to them in price. Perfect rendition of mids and so balanced and true. You cant go wrong. I received like 5 pairs of chifi and these are the first i tried out of the package and Its been 1 hour and i cant take them off.
Good grip on the bass. Cant wait to try them with my headphone amp.
People that won't have enough power to drive them will end up turning up the volume to compensate and that's what you don't want to do as they will sound bad. Volume does not = Voltage.
Take a look at Jcally AP90 with dual AK4493SEQ.
Will my LG V60 with its own DAC have enough power ? Thanks
im new to the IEM world, what do you mean?
Hmmm…. volume does = voltage
@@sharpi31.1w @50 steps of volume is not same as 5W @50 steps of volume.
The revision 2 for all it's faults with the treble it's still at least an a+ or s- tier iem whiel the og pr2 is s++, though mixing music I prefer using the revision 2 because I have the chu 2 if I needtruly neutral and use the pr2 to detect faults in my mix, I also bring my samson sr850's because of that same reasln but I use that as my daily driver too
God how many typos did I make, not willing to edit so that I wouldn't lose the heart tho
It's crazy to see how far Chifi has gone in just a few years. Gone are the days we have be content with subpar tuning and technicalities under $100 as the likes of the PR2 further push the boundary of how good sound can get for cheap.
And most of the stock cables are heaps better too
Absolutely! You need to try the new BLON Z300. I saw the cable on that insanely good for the price
"Cheap" is very wrong term. Inexpensive
@@karabasbarabas1596 That's true!
I bought the PR2 HBB after doing some research and I’m extremely impressed by them. My reference has always been the Letshouer S12 Pro but I’m within a millimeter (figurately) of calling the PR2 HBB my reference IEMs. Everything you said about them is true and they have only made me realize how (overly?) spacious the S12’s are. They certainly have better bass and are very airy but it barely makes them less resolute than the PR2 HBB, which are more detailed and balanced - and that’s works for me more than the “air” in the soundstage.
They completely work for me.
i do not know anything about oginal sound of KZ HBB PR2 I tuned them with wavelet i used a profile of Koss Porta Pro and...they sound amazing
I've had the newer version non-mesh version for about two months now, listening to them daily for about three hours per day while I work and I have you say I really love them. Initially they were a bit treble mental, but over the first month they settled down to something closer to whats been described in this review. There are still some tracks which I think are maybe recorded with very breathy/hissy treble like Meiko Reasons to Love You, which are still quite difficult to listen to, so the treble capabilities of the pr2 do seem to make that kind of sound profile/production way more noticeable and powdery than any other iem I've got/have listened to, but for 99% of everything else I listen to they've really impressed me. I think it's worth taking the risk especially at the asking price, they need quote a run-in and the balance appears to be quite dependant on source. I've been running them via a 1000mw dac amp and a 70mw Hiby FC1 with good results. Bass is more solid with more power but certainly not lacking with the Hiby either
Great video idol,.. you are one of the reviewers I tend to see when looking for recommendations and etc... Good job!
All the way from Philippines 😍🥰🎉
I appreciate that!
i love how you always compare iem that i am stuck in between
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I just got these without realizing all the drama. Before stumbling onto this video's comments, first impressions were not good either, so cannot say that I was swayed towards a negative reaction in any way but this sort of confirms that I'm not making things up in my my head. What I'm hearing through these is thinness and hissiness. Not in terms of actual noise but the overall feel of the sound.
I have tried 7hz Timeless and loved them but unfortunately the earpiece itself created hot spots in my ear so uncomfortable I could wear them for more than 30 minutes, had to return them. I also have HiFiman Sundara as my daily driver, so I have an idea of what a good planar sound should be. I have KZ S10 Pro as my daily drivers for laptop so not a KZ hater. I'm also not a bass head nor do I oppose to a brighter set of headphones, so I can enjoy a sparkly treble but these have again a metallic, tinny feel to them.
Not enjoying these at all. Will give them a day or two to see if they stabilize but not good sound so far.
It's nuts how they changed the original version.
con qué los amplificas? también los tengo y parecen totalmente 2 audífonos diferentes cuando reciben bastante poder. Con un MT-602 (1.3w 32ohms), los bulbos adecuados y los eartips adecuados, me tienen asombrado por lo que rinden. Aunque no sea un Sundara, tengo un he400se v2 y andan demasiado cerca en muchos aspectos.
KZ has been still innovating. 😀
Or plotting 😆
And i still waiting mine to shipped lmao
@@OgSwisszyedMe too WFT. One weak waiting it. I paid 30 bucks, but I'm about to cancel the order.
@@PrimeAudioReviews how does this compare against the kz d-fi (switch edition) and the kz zvx?
I bought a KZ x HBB PR2 recently like 2 weeks ago but suddenly the left side IEM stops working after some stuttering and screeching noise and after 2 minutes it starts working again.
I tried to check with Multimeter both continuity as well as Ohm's the reading shows normal
Iam using desktop dac/amp EPOS (Sennheiser) GSX 300.
But the problem only arises when listening to music, but when i play pink noise @70-80% volume the left side does not stutter or stops working it only happens when playing Music
Any solution guys 😅
Lovely review - I just got a set of ZX10 Pro X's after my 5 year old ZST's finally fell into multiple parts. I'm tempted to get PR2's for mixing - I'm using the Pro X's at a volume of 1-3 out of 16 bars on a MacBook Pro. I presume that means there's plenty power to drive these..?
Also, are there any other sub $100 IEM's you'd recommend for mixing?
I don't have a MacBook so I can't test it for power output. I'd rec the Truthear HEXA for mixing.
One of the things that makes me interested in the KZ headphones is the compatibility with KZ bluetooth accessories. I don't know if my old AZ09 will be able to push this little copper sieve.
I'm using Fiio UTWS3 with my PR2 and i have to almost max it out (both UTWS3 volume and smartphone volume) to get a good experience. I have had the AZ09 Pro in the past and felt like it was less powerful than UTWS3 .... so AZ09 might not be up to the task if my experience is anything to go by.
i got bot adapters they are not cutting it tbh maxed and still not loud enough for me :(
It's a bit grainy in the treble but it's overall an ok iem, I don't get nearly the same enjoyment as I have with cheap planar cans, but then I never really liked iems in the first place, more an open cans and earbuds person. Anyway, for the price, it's risk-less to try how planar iem sounds, was curious.
That's because they ripped everyone off that did not pre-order and you got the trash version non hbb. Look inside the housing and you will notice the missing mesh dampener that covers the magnet array
Great review..a good point on it being being a bit of a power hog 😎..I find that all my planar IEM’s need ⚡️⚡️
Yeah, this one especially!
Are these the best planar iems under 100? I listen to music and game a lot, I like the harmon curve, but don't mind if bass is boosted a bit. Thanks in advance! BTW great review!
It depends if you get the early run model (this one) or the newer one with the missing foam inserts. It's a safer bet to get something else like Simgot ew200, moondrop aria etc or spending a bit more for s12 Pro etc
Enjoyed the review. Going to pass on this one. I’m planar poor with heyday, hook, timeless, and s12pro.
In that case, you really don’t need this one haha.
Nice collection there, have you not the P1 Max as well?
Wonder how it compares to Timeless
What's your favorite of the 4? I have the Timeless. Thinking of getting either the Heyday or the S12/Pro.
@@7ArchEnemy7 Heyday if you are in to a more neutral tuned iem. S12 Pro if you want a more V shaped tune with more bass.
Great review as always, it's really though to keep up with the IEM market man 😅.
At that price point, how would you compare the PR2 with the Kiwi's Cadenza?
I own a 7hz Zero and I really love the clarity of it, at the moment I'm trying to find something "fun" that doesn't sound as neutral and dry as the Zeros.
If you're looking for something fun and not neutral, the Cadenza is a good choice. Cadenza has more bass and warmer midrange than PR2.
If only the power is not a problem here. I will pull the trigger and grab those.
I dare you to pull the trigger!
Pull it! It doesn't need that much power though.
Investing in a good DAC opens up an entire new world to good IEM's
What about the Pandamon in compare?
Planar as well, bought them for around 27$/Fr., on the market for quite some time started for about 50 and it is much lighter and more conftable then my KZ CCA C12
i would appreciate their effort lately if it weren't for the delayed shipping of my order over a week and a half now :)
Sold out I guess
Mine hasn't had any more updates and I preordered
Me too but i ordered mine on the 1st of May. I've seen people saying it everywhere. You'd think they would be able to make these in large quantities very quickly.
My shipper haven't updated the status for about a week now, we've been talking though it's the longest I've waited.
Demand is high- they might be waiting for new inventory.
Im so jealous that i live in a country where these are over 50$ and also I can't really find many budget IEMs besides KZ.
To make it worse, i pulled the trigger and bought the ZS10 Pro X sealed from a guy(no warranty), but the right unit has a slight defect, at certain ranges it makes a weird sound, noticeable in scenarios where there is no bass. I think I'm just cursed to never listen to good IEMs
I purchased the moondrop dawn pro ans still feel these more juice, no lower end with these. Last resort will be balanced cable.
How does it behave on the Moondrop Dawn Pro's balanced output?
How's the detail retrieval on these compared to the othwr planars on the market?
Pretty comparable for details - IEMs with leaner notes and sufficient treble tend to do details well.
I know this is a bit of an unfair comparison but I have a good reason for bringing it up but...
Compared to S12 which do you prefer and why?
first time watching love the personality
Will you ever check out the PR1 Pro to compare to the PR2?
Unlikely.
This one compare with Kz zs10 pro X with one better, tks
Compared both in the video - cmon mate, do some of the thinking yourself...
What would say if wanna to use them for PS5 gaming?
What's the best budget dongle I can find for the PR2?
Check out the jcally jm dongles.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thank you for you time and guidance! 🤘🏻
what version of PR2 is this?
Hey man, stupid question but do you think UGREEN's 5.0 bluetooth amp/dac will be enough to drive the Pr2's? (UGREEN is basically a knockoff Fiio Btr3) just wondering, cheers mate.
I can't find any mention of its output power so I can't say. If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably not going to be optimal.
It's been a while since I owned any KZ iem. The main reason thats holding me back from this as well as CCA is their 2-pin connectors which I found too exposed for my liking. The last two sets that I owned were barely 1 year old when their connectors broke. Any opinions on this?
I feel like their durability has improved. These connectors are much more common now which tends to raise the mean level to some degree
Agree, the plastiky connectors are fragile despite the careful usage. Mine KBEAR's KB06 crumbled. Pity
I've weirdly had more instances of a standard 2 pin coming loose in the housing and causing issues than the QDC, lol. After only a week, my simgot em6l's started wiggling on their qdc and caused a short that made one cut out (linsoul replaced and the new pair has been going fine for a couple months... boring looking but absolutely insane sound) and the 2 pin of my moondrop ch 2's began wiggling. I had to open them up and add a dot of super glue to the 2 pin plug (just used a heat gun on the shell very very carefully to soften the shell adhesive)
Great review Sir !
I was wondering if anyone could hepl me - I did a lot of reading tryin to choose my next IEM but still feele green. Currently I gave KZ Zs10 pro and quite enjoy them but I would like to try something better as the IEM is changing rapidly for better. I mostly listen to EDM/electronic music and like bass. I thought that this KZ x HBB PR2 would be a good change for the better but as stated in the review during comparition to KZ ZS10 Pro X (assuming of course that they are similar to my current rig) this seems like not a correct direction of change. I thought of QKZ x HBB Khan, QKZ x HBB (seems too warm), KZ ZVX (from your review it seems mor suitable for EDM music compared to Salnotes Zero), TANGZU Wan’er, Kiwi Ears Cadenza, TRUTHEAR x Crinacle ZERO. The budget is arround 50 USD. Maybe someone have a suggestion what could I swich to next? Maybe someone had proviously KZ ZS10 Pro, liked the sound but found something better in 50USD price range? I would be very gratefull for any feedback.
Thank you for the hard work!
I think zvx would be good for you. But if you get one go for silver color coz the black paint chips.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thank you Sir!
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That's awesome. Thank you!
Would a Sony NW-A306 be able to drive these reasonably well? Not quite got to grips with how to work out power requirements and output power 🫠
Yes, absolutely, especially if you invest in a balanced cable.
I have abgail dac.. can those power them?
Hi ! I'm new to your channel, can you recommend this for DJing ?
No. These have poor passive noise isolation and require a lot of power to perform optimally.
This PR2 vs the TRN VX Pro? Which is more detailed w/ better imaging & separation?
I haven't listened to the vx Pro for ages but from memory, I'd say pr2 is more detailed and has better separation.
Would these be good for open world gaming? If not care to recommend some
Yes, they're good for gaming so long as you have enough driving power.
Hello and thank you for the review, it makes you want to try it.
Did you compare it with more expensive planars, like the S12 ?
To be honest, I still prefer the S12 Pro. It has more fullness in the midrange. But for $40 the PR2 comes bloody close!
@@PrimeAudioReviewsWould EQd PR2 sound the same as S12?
@@PrimeAudioReviews It's still good value for the price though.
@@araakinPr2 is a better planar than S12
I've both and Pr2 sounds more natural without harshness as compared to S12 and Pr2 has no sibilance and has more details compared to S12.
So you're basically making Pr2 a little worst than Eqing it to S12
@@migracing8232Cool, thanks. But what about the differences in stage, separation, imaging between them?
PR2 or EA500 or Hexa? Which has the best Sound quality? I prefer neutral sound. What would you recommend?
EA500. HEXA has attenuated treble and a dark presentation (definitely not neutral). PR2 is also closer to neutral but you'll need some power to make it sing.
@@PrimeAudioReviews so a PR2 paired with a jcally jm30(2vrms) will be superior than the ea500?
Mine still haven't shipped 😭
Could you rank that based your preference?
-Kz Pr2
-Shuoer S12
-Raptgo Hook
Hmmm tough choice between the S12 and Hook X. PR2 is definitely in 3rd place.
The S12 has a fairly quiet mid-range and the vocals are a bit pulled up to that peak at 8K. On many tracks, engagement disappears precisely because of an overly calm middle (even cheaper C2 Warrior are more involved there).
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks! So a better overall iem than S12/Raptgo?
@Robh22R S12 Pro is awesome. Moondrop Blessing 3 is also nice depends on what kind of tuning you're looking for.
@@PrimeAudioReviews for you s12 pro IS better than Hook x?
hey, what is the power output you recommend for this? will a jcally jm7 be enough?
I think it should be enough but I can't guarantee it.
Some say jcally jm6 pro would be better. It got more amp power. Just $11.
Jcally ap 10. It has big power enough to drive this iem. I think after you buy this. Maybe you must buy 4.4 balance cable. To make this iem shine. Because the sensivuty its very low 94db. You need more power to make it shine. Or if you have more budget. Go for dc 04 or 04 pro, Shio, hiby fc4. Don't use low tier dac. Its not very different like you plug into you 3.5 phone jack.
@@muhammadzakyzahran7260 i did use a very low tier dac. $3 . Huge different from 3.5mm jack output. Maybe your phone has nicer dac. I don't want to spend more than the iem price itself. Dc03 isn't bad at all. It's just doesn't support mic.
KZ x HBB PR2 or kz ZS 10 Pro x ? Which one to choose?
They're vastly different. ZS10 Pro X is warm and inviting with good detail. PR2 is lean but has exceptional resolution and detail. Keep in mind, the PR2 I have is the earlier mesh version - later version without mesh is said to have sharp treble.
Did you test the PR2 on the Hidizs AP80 balanced out or single ended? If you used the single ended out, was the gain set to high?
SE in both low and high. Low can do but high gain gives you a lot more headroom.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks a bunch. Waiting for mine to arrive.
Will these sound good with the Fiio BTR5 or the KZ AZ09 Pros?
Yes, absolutely.
How they stand against s12pro? I just got them but fit is kinda meh for me. I would get this if it provides 85-90% of s12pro 🧐🙂. Bl03 is still enjoyable indeed, they r not going anywhere 😂
See the comments below…
S12 Pro is better.
@@PrimeAudioReviews ahh thanks prime 😊
@@PrimeAudioReviewsBetter how? You may prefer the tuning of the s12 but if PR2 was auto eq'd via squiglink to s12 pro FR what would be better then? Would it match the s12 for resolution\speed etc? If the PR2's technicalities are on par with s12 and you use parametric EQ you would not need to spend more on the other sets, or maybe it lacks in technicalities idk.
If you have to choose
Kiwi cadenza, tihifi c2 and this one, which will you choose? I'm using just a simple smartphone and listen to all type of stuff so I'm finding the best all rounder
I would choose Cadenza if you're just using a smartphone.
@@PrimeAudioReviews oh thanks, but the tinhifi c2 have the same problem like the pr2?
And i want to add another contender which is the kz dfi, what do you think about it?
D-Fi sounds great but for me the fit is not good unless I change the cable. C2 is also good and KZ ZVX.
@@PrimeAudioReviews there's so many choices nowadays and finding a jack of all trade to fit my music taste that just change whenever is so hard
Watched some of your videos...really liked them🤍
Luv the humour😆
Subscribed :)
Welcome aboard!
I'm looking for a similar sounding iem that's more comfortable on the ears that sounds like the tin t2s. Would this be a good pick?
Yes it should be a good match assuming your source has enough power to drive it
@@PrimeAudioReviews what accessory do I need for power? Since I wanna be using it on my phone
A dongle DAC like a HiBy FC3 or FiiO KA2 etc
These or qkz hbb or 7hz zero for gaming? Mainly competetive. Maybe another pair under 70 is better?
These, if you have the power to drive them.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Do you think astro mixamp gen 1 will drive it?
If your a fan of FPS games and music (Hires songs) this one or the zs10 pro x?
Both good for games and music. Pr2 is more detailed but might be hot in treble if you get the one without damping mesh inside.
My kz as16 just broke yesterday and im planning to buy this, can you give me your review between the two? Like the vibrations of the bass and like which one is louder and clearer at full volume? Also im buying a dac just for this.
Pr2 has a stronger bass response, better resolution,instrument separation and detail retrieval
Are the voices in pr2 clearer too?
Yes they are
The dac i bought is the ibasso dc03 pro is it enough to power this?
Hi! Just got these from a sale. Would the KZ AZ15 be able/enough to power these?
I don't have so can't test it. I think it might but you'd be pushing close to full volume in power mode
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks for the response! Appreciate it!
Are these all sealed or kinda semi-opened? 🤔
Trash these have too much treble
Sealed
As16 pro BA ou pr2 planar??
Don't buy PR2 unless you have the power to drive it.
How would you compare it to the Dioko?
It doesn't take much to beat the Dioko.
What are your Thought on buying these for Gaming?
Also if i do get them for gaming on PC, do i still need an AMP?
They're pretty good for gaming. You probably don't need an amp if using pc but the Audio output might not be great (pc has inherent electrical noise).
@@PrimeAudioReviews yea I remembered that now as well, I've never been able to use 3.5mm jack audio products, because I can always hear "something" and it is really annoying.
Any tips to fix that?
I know iFi sells some products to avoid that, do you recommend them?
A budget dongle dac will take care of that.
@@PrimeAudioReviews suggestions of one?😅
How does it compare to letshuoer s12 / s12 pro ?
It does pretty well but s12 Pro costs more for a reason.
Cheapest dongle dac that will work for this?
Hiby FC3, FiiO KA2 etc.
Shangling H7. And even that one will sound like shit honestly. I suggest carrying around a Matrix Element X2 with a car battery.
avani or jm04 pro
now since i know PR2 is probably the best budget IEM ever at this moment.
what would be the best dongle dac to get the planar performance? and please be cheap...
There's no such thing as best but it's currently one of the best. Hiby FC3, FiiO FA2 etc. can do.
@@PrimeAudioReviews some are more expensive than the IEM, well thanks for the information, it was helpful.
VE Abigail/Avani, Jcally jm6 pro (has a lot of power). Though I can't tell how good sound wise they are compared to higher end stuff but at this 15$ range these are the best picks imo.
Ibasso dc 04, shio, Hiby fc4 maybe good dongle for this iem. Maybe you must buy 4.4 balance cable. Because this iem slightly hard to drive because 94db sensitivity
@@muhammadzakyzahran7260 how about fiio q11?
Hi, I have KZ x HBB PR2. Does it make sense to purchase KZ PR1 Pro?
Yes it does, if you want a similar sound but with more warmth and body.
In my opinion, you listened to the wrong version of Pro ))) In the PR2, they just increased the return on the midrange and underestimated the high frequencies. I had all three versions of PR1.
What kind of amp you need to power these? Dac+amp like jcally sufficient?
Yes, jcally should be sufficient.
@@PrimeAudioReviews You mean those jcally dac+amp small dongles are sufficient?
@jampiserapah yes precisely.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks for the help man. I thought I'm gonna need those Fiio or Aiyima bricks
Hi guys, wich dac dongle for mobile device is your recomendation at $50 price range to run the pr2
If you can wait a few days, I can tell you about my experience with the Jcally JM6 Pro. I purchased it specifically for the PR2. Mine has just arrived in my country and should clear customs by Monday.
I should get mine soon. I have fiio ka1, ikko zerda itm02 and also a btr3k which im gonna use with a balanced 2.5, my pr2 should be here in a couple of days, i will update.
@@artatgray review?
Hello will it sound good on Kz az09 pro
I have no idea.
Fiio BTR7 can power the pr2 hbb
Sure, easy.
Hi sir 7hz timeless or hbb pr2 which one is best
No such thing as best. Timeless is still better IMO but not $150 better.
So which one you will suggest for 150 doller sir
do i need an amp even if i am listening from my pc?
Your pc might be loud enough but because you need to turn the volume up high, your pc audio signal will be noisy (internal electrical noise).
Does PR2 suffer from driver flex or its just my unit?
I get some on the left side but only when I touch it with my hand.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Yeah mine too, do I have to worry about it and return it? I didn't know planar iems also suffer from that
Can my quedelix power these?
It should be able to. If not you could buy a cheap balanced cable because the balanced output definitely has enough power.
Does TINHIFi C3 sounds better than these Pr2?
That depends what kind of sound signature you prefer.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Still if you can suggest that can c3 beat pr2 in overall sound quality and which has better tuning and timbre overall.
Can Fiio Ka 1 power it?
Probably not to be honest.
is this open or semi open back ?
Semi open
@@PrimeAudioReviews I read your comment about the changes made so I ordered the Dunu titan s
Pr2 or pr1 pro. Which to buy?
Cmon mate, I already compared them in the video and the written review.
@Prime Audio Reviews still confused. Just in one word recommend me one. I like good quality bass and crystal clear vocals. I appreciate your efforts. Thanks.
This or olina?
Considering all the talk about stealth revisions, I'd say Olina is a safer option.
I'm sick of having to buy tips to get a goof fit. They've cost me more than the IEMs in the past. This alone is keeping m3caeay from IEMs now
It's annoying considering how cheap you can get them online. They should include more sizes in the box.
This vs crins project red?
Don't know yet. Red review coming soon.
@@PrimeAudioReviews looking forward to it!
"Its not sibilant" thats so objective.. put some spinfit cp100 m's on this and I bet its immediately sibilant
I don't understand, you are one of the best channels, i see ifi uno there but no review...
I haven't had time to do it yet but it's coming!
I've received my pr2, but i really think It needs an amp, but i don't have any Idea of How much output level i would need to push It, any recomendation?
380mV at 120db
Just buy any entry-level dongle or desktop DAC. iFi UNO or Hiby FC3 etc.
You kinda sound like, Dankpods.... but like a tamed one
more like KZ dropping shit, wait for the reviewers to praise it and then cut cost. Just got mine today and they are sibilant with the treble, not at lower volume but once i try and turn them up you get the ice pic in the ear, im running this on an ifi zen v2 and sound stage sounds congested, like there is missing depth , to be fair the only planar i have ever hear was the Maxwell from Audeze, i know this is apples and oranges but i know what a planar can do and sounds like. I dont think you deceived us, i think KZ did and ran with the money! Never the less i think you are a great reviewer and i hope whatever KZ releases next people skip them so they learn, greedy greedy. im returning mine!
Yes, it's very frustrating when KZ does stealth releases. I didn't know anything about the revised edition until well after my review was published.
Stop trying to hide it, we know you're Dankpods putting on a voice.
Haha, you caught me! My secret identity as DankPods has been exposed. Now I have to go back to reviewing headphones in an Aussie accent while drumming on battery packs. Cheers, mate!
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Will this be recommended for a church band?
No. It requires too much power and the noise isolation is poor.
@PrimeAudioReviews Could you recommend which in-ears are suitable please?
classic kz cables tho and I'm not into that lol
seems the PR2 has extremely bad variations in the treble. just looking at squig link half have good fr and half have horrendous treble.
Theres a good chance reviewers got cherry picked units.
Pretty much all the the squiggers are reviewers lol so how does that claim make sense?
Readings beyond 10kHz are unreliable. I wouldn't concern myself with it much.
@@PrimeAudioReviews aftersound and sharur both measured crazy stupid treble witch was much higher than the margin of error of a coupler, not even being resonant peaks. EPLV also got some interesting treble but looks more like coupler resonance, witch is usually pretty consistent - not like how it looks.
some of that treble could actually be damaging to your hearing
sharurshowed a graph almost similar to pr1 original. I think they need to verify their setups
I have a newer version of the PR2 that doesn't have that black blanket over the driver. It has too much treble. I tamed it with narrow bore tips and using a balanced cable with a high power amplifier. HiFri talked about these different versions in his review.
did you do these measurements? some people are measuring +17 db in the upper treble 🤮
Yes, I have been doing my own measurements for years.
$40 is crazy bruh 😭 just ordered mine overseas
Yeah, it’s better than Zeros Red tbh If you have the mesh version
@@PrimeAudioReviews Can't wait to try them out. This review video made me go for it, really appreciate the breakdown of this iem. Stay awesome 😎
@@PrimeAudioReviewsi didn't get the Mesh Version (man KZ has some issues with having a consistently good product) so any quick fix in terms of eq or anything?
Lol you’re right about kz dropping bombs because these things are treble grenades
Have you actually heard them? I have and they're not.
@@artatgray graph says otherwise, but OK. Keep coping
no graph does not show otherwise
@@elijahpalmer6323>doesn't own the iem
>can't read graphs
>doesn't even bother to look at a single review when every one of them says otherwise
That's a dangerous combination of stupidity and arrogance you got there
@@elijahpalmer6323 no, it doesn't. And quick glance at the graph without knowledge of the frequency spectrum of the vast majority of music is misleading. There really little that happens in music beyond 10kHz; it's harmonics up there at much lower volumes which give a sense of ambiance. They can't bomb you because they don't have enough energy to.
Another thing, IEM frequency response measurements beyond 10kHz are inaccurate. So, the graph can be very misleading in that regard.