Storm Ruler Kazunagi yes and no? It could be one of those things where she was going to name him owain for a different reason time travel just changed the reason not the outcome.
Its probably the same shenanigans with Inigo if he is Chrom's son. "My Brand is in my eye" Like thats a think? And pretty clever way to fill in for details that could come back to bite you if you put them in wrong.
Francis Harkins Inigo is proven not to be Chrom’s son. If you give him the awakening shield accessory, an Easter egg message will pop up saying how he can’t perform the awakening ritual.
@@Shrinefeldt All siblings of Lucina believe that they can't perform the Awakening ritual. They never get to see that, in fact, they can do it, just like in their A sibling support with Lucina
owain is born. Lissa names him owain. owain changes his name to Odin. Odin meets Lissa. Lissa decides to name his son something similar to Odin. she chooses owain.
But fates was the distant past so Odin was there first meaning that in the initial iteration of the timeline he inspired his own name. Since he appeared in the past from a not yet written future
So Lissa has a kid. She gives him a unique and "cool" name. That kid grows up. Beats a fell dragon. Travels through time and space to Nohr. Due to the outside world availing a free DLC, that Nohrian soldier goes back to his homeland BEFORE Lissa has her kid. He talks to Lissa. Lissa is fascinated with his name. Then, Lissa has a kid.
+PokéCenter thank you, those were my thoughts exactly with the paradox thing. Also considering how Lissa's personality is sounds legit. Also have a thumbs up for voicing my thoughts lol
It kinda makes me wish An Ophelia-child Kana could have a convo with Lissa and accidentally spouts it out. "Hi, grann- Uh i mean-" "Granny?" "Papa told me you were Greatpapa's mother so i wanted to talk with you! But Papa said it would make a paradox... what isa paradox?" "I-i have a granddaughter... and she has a daughter... BEFORE AGE???? AAAAAAAGH" "Whoops.... now i got why Papa said that, am i in trouble???"
Joel Sasmad they already meet, the diferente is we have two owains, and two ophelias. Ophelias nohr never know about his granma but ophelias coexist , that means ophelias know and didnt know lissa
It's implied that Odin/Owain goes back home with his wife (assuming he's married) after the events of Fates unless he marries Corrin in Revelations so it's possible that Ophelia's able to meet Lissa.
If Robin was the father of Owain, Owain/Odin married Elise, and Ophelia hooked up with Corrin. Kana has 4 different dragon blood in her veins. Sounds powerful!
Married Cordelia on my third run when I was bored. Loved her ever since and now, Severa, Subaki, and Caeldori are next in Fates. For obvious reasons. (I can't see Severa as anyone else but Robin's daughter, so I left her out in Awakening. Plus she seems like the best sister to Morgan since they're polar opposites personality-wise)
Not only will Kana have 3-4 Dragon blood in her, but she will also have Exalted blood running through those veins. Just imagine. Marth's blood, Fell dragon blood, dusk dragon blood, and Anankos' blood. Even better, what if Tiki was the father of Morgan, Morgan marries Owain/Odin, and Ophelia gets with Corrin? Kana would be full dragon while also having both DIVINE dragon blood and fell dragon blood in there. holy shit
2:50 Yes, talk about your mark, Ophelia - it's not like Lissa will wonder how you ended up with the Brand of the Exalt, something only Ylissean royalty can possess. Thus bringing your identity and ancestry into question, which would then bring Odin's false identity crumbling down - and Lissa ending up a grandmother before she had even _thought_ of dating. That's not screwy at all - and then there's the effects that would have on "Marth". Her disguise would be practically useless, as there'd already be a time-travelling, dimension-hopping child present - oops.
@@asafesseidonsapphireTo avoid any kind of temporal paradox. But then her identity is revealed to Chrom and there's a time paradox, which saves the world.
I wanna see Asugi and Gaius talk just to see their first reactions to each other... I had the headcanon they were the same person and if Gaius met Asugi he would be liek "oH CRAP MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS"
I just sent Xander and Ryoma right in the middle of enemy territory so that they aggro/bait every single enemy within range and destroy them while counter- attacking, so that Chrom (who keeps attacking Master Ninja's that he has less than 40% chance to hit) doesn't rush into his own death. Honestly Frederick is the only one who pulls his weight.
*+Gameboy34* Yeah. There is actually the theory that Robin always had two children (Morgan and the other Morgan from Future Past DLC), but only Grima from this universe and one Morgan end up in the Universe it takes place in. The male Morgan (or Mark) ends up in Blazing Sword ... yup. MatPat would love this.
+Der Slendy Wow, if all of that is indeed true, then this series will have a more confusing timeline than the Zelda series, and that involves Link dying in a game for part of it to be true!
Sir Aicos Yeah, I don't know how many people know about this, because I started that theory. I just read a few comments and noticed that stuff. But don't get too exited. There are a lot of holes in this theory ... same with MatPat's theories tho ... But seriously ... Robin or Male Morgan need to be Mark ... or all my fanfictions don't make sense! I mean ... I actually didn't write fanfictions yet ... but maybe I will in the future ... AND THEY WON'T MAKE SENSE!
I love how Ophelia looks like Lissa, in particular with her blond hair. They did a good job with their design! (I just wish they could have done this with the Hoshido royal family too, because they don't look like siblings at all)
@@diamondseraph9369 Actually all Hoshido siblings share the same mother! the previous Queen of Hoshido and Sumeragi first wife before Mikoto! (Corrin's mother was their "stepmother" as she was their father's concubine till the previous Queen Ikona, their blood mother and Sumeragi first wife's death! Corrin was officially adopted by Sumeragi to avoid any issues. This was kept under wraps by all but Ryoma who knew since he was with their father when they first met Mikoto and an already born Corrin, Hinoka likely assumed Corrin was born during that period hence why she didn't know till the letter thing at the Romance Support point with her .......Like Nana Love, I really wish they didn't go down this route, it's one thing to have the Incest vibes with the Nohr royal family despite being "forcefully adopted" by Garon for Corrin, doesn't change he was raised in their family structure as a sibling and worse if it's with Xander or Camilla seeing how Corrin, Leo and Elise view them more like replacement Father/Mother figures then their elder siblings) It's the Nohr siblings who are half-siblings to each other (each of them have different mother's, Looking at Xander, Leo, and Elise. It's safe to say they inherited their father's hair color, Garon's original hair color is blond as Camilla most likely inherited her mother's hair color. I mean IS had some pictures of the Parents in their youth, with both Garon and Sumeragi looking similar to their eldest sons when they were younger. But they have enough differences to know it's younger versions of them! The crown Xander wears must be the crown worn by the Crown Prince if that is Garon when his father was still King seeing how he wore the same). But yeah it's hard to see how any of the siblings look alike to each other! I can let Hinoka and Sakura pass from the fact I did get to see a picture of what "Queen " looked like (though it still doesn't get a pass because it was annoying how far they took trying to hide this little tidbit to BS Corrin being a member of their family, Seriously, couldn't Mikoto have been ananko's daughter or descendant and Corrin won the Genetic lottery in being born Manakate, but would have been Sumeragi child!, Would have still been good to make Sakura and Takumi Corrin's half siblings through his/her mother. Looking at Takumi, I feel like that was the original intent....but they realized the age thing would come to mind.....which still would have been solved by Mikoto's "inhuman heritage" and wouldn't have affected anything overall)
I imagine if Owain goes back to Ylisse world someday with Ophelia :"Hello mother ! Long time no see ! By the way, here's your grand daughter. - I'm glad to see you too, Ow... MY WHAAAAAAT ?!?!"
What if Ophelia showed her mark? Everyone loses their mind Odin : OH MY GOD OPHELIA NO Lissa : Wait how did you get th- OH I KNEW IT IM NOT THE REAL PRINCESS SHE IS Chrom : HOW IN THE- EXPLAIN THIS LADY Frederick : JUST WHO IS THIS YOUNG LADY and so on
+Justice Oden Its quite odd how similar they look when you see them together but how different they look when viewed apart. Besides Ophelia can have many different hair colors so it wouldn't make sense for Lissa to recognize her right away. Now if Ophelia had described her Brand...that would've been interesting. All the grandchildren look similar to their grandmother besides Soliel who I think doesn't look like Olivia much at all.
Ophelia confirming she has a mark (fell or exalt, depending on whom married who to Lissa) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy as Lissa was so worried about her
Ophelia confirming she has a mark (fell or exalt, depending on whom married who to Lissa) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy as Lissa was so worried about her mark never appearing and bam, her child's child proves she was always a real descendant.
it just occurred to me that I had owain marry cynthia and had odin marry peri....I really hope there isn't a DLC with cynthia.....that would be uncomfortable
Fire emblem fates Corrin- Robin 2.0 Ophelia- Lissa 2.0 Rhajat- Tharja 2.0 Caledori-Cordelia 2.0 Gurei- Gaius 2.0 Aqua- Olivia 2.0 with water Jakob-Frederick 0.9 Hayato- Asian ricken 2.0 Xander/Ryoma-2 halves of a full Chrom Pieri- Female Henry 2.0 Velouria-Werewolf Nah 1.5
Keith Jordan L although nowi is FAR older... mentally at least. selkie's personality isn't that deep after all. although it is funny to see that selkie looks like nowi and veloria looks like nah...
Now I get what she meant when you do her Paralouge when she mentions something about being marked, that means that Odin has the Mark that Lissa and Chrom have! OMGG
(Awakening Spoilers although the game came out in like 2012) Lissa actually never got the mark. It always made her question whenever she was loyalty or not. So when Owain was born and had his exalted brand (which was removed in Hidden Truths I believe) Lissa was ecstatic cause that meant she was royalty after all.
I don't have this dlc BUT ARE YOU SERIOUS I DIDN'T KNOW ODIN IS RELATED TO CHROM SINCE HE CLAIMED THAT'S HIS UNCLE AND LISSA IS HIS MOTHER SO MIND BLOWING 😱😱😱😱😱
Theres actually many different Owains because alternate dimensions and timelines and shit. This Owain is either the one who traveled in time to any of our awakening save files, helped beat Grima, then went with Anankos, or he was from the future past timeline, beat the fuck outta grima, and then he went with anankos
I just wish they gave these conversations to the amiibos. Also, the amiibos should get support conversations with each other and the Awakening units in Fates.
You're not the only one. Before I got my Ike and Robin amiibo, I thought to myself if I could have them do support conversations with the other characters. I thought that would be awesome. Until I found out it didn't work like that.. Still good characters to use though
Waaaaiiit... I think I understand what Ophelia means when she refers to a mark now! Because Lissa and Chrom related (at least, as far as I know), that would mean that Lissa also bears the brand somewhere on her body. meaning that Odin and Ophelia ALSO bear a brand. So, when Ophelia refers to a mark, she's actually referring to the brand she has!
Supapretzel Jenkins actually Lissa never inherited the brand of the exalt unlike her siblings Chrom and Emmeryn, her potential nephew Inigo/Laslow, niece Lucina, son Owain/Odin and granddaughter Ophelia as shown in several of her support conversations.
Just bringing this up involving that DLC the West never got (thanks, Treehouse), the Children's Festival DLC. If Ophelia is Kana's mom, Kana will mention that she thinks that she might be sick because a peculiar mark suddenly appeared on her. Ophelia said that she has that mark and she was told by Odin that it's a special mark that only a select few possess. So for Ophelia, she thinks that it's proof that she and Kana are indeed Chosen Ones.
oh damn, I didn't think about who Ophelia was, I thought it was another child character from awakening disguised, and it took till I read the description that I figured out it was Owain/Odin's daughter
+Mr. Freezeman The realm we call the Fates Realm is real in the Multiverse, however assumed as a myth in the Awakening Realm, both realms are real in fact, just separate. It's like how fairy tales are originated from some truth or fact. Also, someone/something transported Odin/Owain, Selena/Serena, and Laslow/Inigo to this different realm. It's in another DLC that explains how they entered the Fates Realm.
Wait i just thought, if Odin and Ophelia arr in the start of the timelin, could it be possible they somehow survived the great flood, moved to Archaea and became the royal family of Marth's blood line.
I'm confused as to the chronology of these events. I think this DLC happened before Awakening. But considering Owain's name is already different here, this implies post-Awakening. I'll guess that this happened before Fates and they traveled to pre-Awakening to pursue some Vallites.
This is some real Doctor Who level stuff! I mean........There talking about lands that don’t really exist when it first came out (in our minds at least)
To be fair, Owain shows up before he's born anyways so Lissa probably just named him Owain, but maybe commented to a young owain that she was considering Odin Dark for a time.
Ophelia: ("I've this strange feeling I shouldn't mention more about my mark.)" Odin (from afar): *Makes hand motions and mouths "NO"
lol
I accept this as fact
TheNumber1Bacon This is literally the ONLY way I can accept her sudden impulse that nagged at her to not explain about the mark.
Brilliant.
I pictured Odin doing that for christ sake XDD
i completely forgot she was branded
So wait... Odin inspired his own name?
Looks like we have a time paradox on our hands.
its more like going to another dimension years earlier in time,
no paradox there, but sorta true
+themagicwave No it is a time paradox, the dlc literally takes place right before chrom and lissa meets Robin.
+HTakara82 stfu
+Curgly Croog DUN DUN DUN
+Curgly Croog
Snake, you can’t do that! You’ve changed history. You’ve created a Time Paradox!
_So Lissa named her son after her son_
_Makes sense to me_
I know right
Legit
Storm Ruler Kazunagi yes and no? It could be one of those things where she was going to name him owain for a different reason time travel just changed the reason not the outcome.
Yes, And Owain in Warriors insisted Leo on teaching him magic
This reminds me of Back to the Future lmao
Ophelia: This is like when I realized my mark proved I was chosen!
Odin: (nonononononONONONO)
Dammit I'm on a phone
That moment when you meet your grandmother from the past and neither of you know you're related to each other.
+DittoMaster6 XD
Only in Fire Emblem
grandmother from the future* (fates is set before awakening, chronolgically awakening is the last game i think)
+Nolasco Matus These events occur in different realms...
oh, thought fates was just before awakening
it makes me so happy that lissa has two people that prove her lineage, since she was so worried about her brand never showing
Me too =)
Its probably the same shenanigans with Inigo if he is Chrom's son. "My Brand is in my eye" Like thats a think? And pretty clever way to fill in for details that could come back to bite you if you put them in wrong.
Francis Harkins Inigo is proven not to be Chrom’s son. If you give him the awakening shield accessory, an Easter egg message will pop up saying how he can’t perform the awakening ritual.
@@Shrinefeldt All siblings of Lucina believe that they can't perform the Awakening ritual. They never get to see that, in fact, they can do it, just like in their A sibling support with Lucina
@@robincjr2480 inigo CAN be crom's son, its just that any version that becomes laslow can't.
owain is born. Lissa names him owain. owain changes his name to Odin. Odin meets Lissa. Lissa decides to name his son something similar to Odin. she chooses owain.
+AFK Cyndiquil
It all comes full circle.
Bruh
My head hurts
But fates was the distant past so Odin was there first meaning that in the initial iteration of the timeline he inspired his own name. Since he appeared in the past from a not yet written future
So Lissa has a kid. She gives him a unique and "cool" name. That kid grows up. Beats a fell dragon. Travels through time and space to Nohr. Due to the outside world availing a free DLC, that Nohrian soldier goes back to his homeland BEFORE Lissa has her kid. He talks to Lissa. Lissa is fascinated with his name.
Then, Lissa has a kid.
Seems like some weird paradox. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey. xD
+General omg! A Doctor Who reference! XD
Let me make all of this clear. This is canon.
+Ryan Rivera damn, I can't keep up anymore
+PokéCenter thank you, those were my thoughts exactly with the paradox thing. Also considering how Lissa's personality is sounds legit. Also have a thumbs up for voicing my thoughts lol
Owain's scream though
DAARGH!
GAAAAÀAAAAAAAHHH!!!!
GintaPPE1000 it sounds like he was doing a Chubby Bunny challenge and just started choking
0:32
It truly is the greatest “oh shit” gasp in existence 🤣
the Ophelia and Lissa conversation makes me so happy for some reason
+Duelist Mudkip It makes me sad they never meet in the fates timeline.
It kinda makes me wish An Ophelia-child Kana could have a convo with Lissa and accidentally spouts it out.
"Hi, grann- Uh i mean-"
"Granny?"
"Papa told me you were Greatpapa's mother so i wanted to talk with you! But Papa said it would make a paradox... what isa paradox?"
"I-i have a granddaughter... and she has a daughter... BEFORE AGE???? AAAAAAAGH"
"Whoops.... now i got why Papa said that, am i in trouble???"
Duelist Mudkip Like granddaughter like grandmother.
Joel Sasmad they already meet, the diferente is we have two owains, and two ophelias. Ophelias nohr never know about his granma but ophelias coexist , that means ophelias know and didnt know lissa
It's implied that Odin/Owain goes back home with his wife (assuming he's married) after the events of Fates unless he marries Corrin in Revelations so it's possible that Ophelia's able to meet Lissa.
besties with grandma.
TheGoldminor That sounds.... no just....just no
_-HeroPrinceCappa-_ You nasty
Its so weird that they're all canonically around tge same age
I honestly thought Ophelia would've shouted "Grandmother!" or something.
She does not know who she is
+Gmaniac01 I k
+Gmaniac01 know
+Malika Gaming Tthe entire time I was like "Don't show her the mark!!!"
+Gmaniac01 What mark?
hehehe
Now if Ophelia tied her hair the way lissa does... hmmmm IM SEEING DOUBLES!
+PikminXOXO(Ending) Holy shit I just realized that!
The only difference is the eye colour and clothing, really.
+EYELESS BUNNY no same eye color but Ophelia has a larger cup size so Lissa's clothes won't fit.
Dare I ask why you were looking at just the cup size between them.......-_-
Well I mean... Everyone looks at Camilla's pecs, sooo...
Plus, Ophelia seems to be nearly flat-chested, so it probably wouldn't matter.
2:51
"I'm not a strange feeling, I'm the script!"
If Robin was the father of Owain, Owain/Odin married Elise, and Ophelia hooked up with Corrin.
Kana has 4 different dragon blood in her veins. Sounds powerful!
Actually only 3. The Dusk Dragon is Anankos.
Christy Pearce No, Anankos is the Silent Dragon, Garon just worships Anankos instead of the Dusk Dragon.
AlexThat200 funny enough i did that lol ny first run of Awakening i married Lissa and on my first run of Fates i married Ophelia xD
Married Cordelia on my third run when I was bored.
Loved her ever since and now, Severa, Subaki, and Caeldori are next in Fates. For obvious reasons.
(I can't see Severa as anyone else but Robin's daughter, so I left her out in Awakening. Plus she seems like the best sister to Morgan since they're polar opposites personality-wise)
Not only will Kana have 3-4 Dragon blood in her, but she will also have Exalted blood running through those veins. Just imagine. Marth's blood, Fell dragon blood, dusk dragon blood, and Anankos' blood.
Even better, what if Tiki was the father of Morgan, Morgan marries Owain/Odin, and Ophelia gets with Corrin?
Kana would be full dragon while also having both DIVINE dragon blood and fell dragon blood in there. holy shit
Headcanon: Lissa's mark is internal. Specifically, on her heart.
Headcanon #2: Ophelia actually CAN sense it.
LOL
Xion Memoria Blessed headcanon
It's great to know i'm not the only one who thinks Lissa's mark is on her heart
Y e s
I always it was in her v****a
Fates: Mot- eh, Lissa?
Awakening: MOM?
I guess he doesn't want her to find out yet.
Well...he has to keep his identity a secret...
Well he knows she doesn't know because he revealed it to her in his past in the future when he met her and was before he went back to fates
Made Lissa a great-grandma for fun
Lodeding... I found a picture depicting that, lol
Ahh, marrying Male Corrin to Ophelia, eh? Clever... 😉
Ultimate Failure Elbon The Lolinator
Best Fire Emblem meme on the Conquest side.
*a grandmother before coming of age*
I am so mad that I never thought about the Brand showing up on Ophelia before.
I wonder what Ophelia would say if she knew she just had a great conversation with her grandmother without knowing it.
+Stephen Filer
Destiny!
TIME DESTINY!!!
(The Docter is gonna be pissed)
2:50 Yes, talk about your mark, Ophelia - it's not like Lissa will wonder how you ended up with the Brand of the Exalt, something only Ylissean royalty can possess.
Thus bringing your identity and ancestry into question, which would then bring Odin's false identity crumbling down - and Lissa ending up a grandmother before she had even _thought_ of dating. That's not screwy at all - and then there's the effects that would have on "Marth". Her disguise would be practically useless, as there'd already be a time-travelling, dimension-hopping child present - oops.
But really, did lucina disguise served for something besides being Ragna Ferox champion?
@@asafesseidonsapphireTo avoid any kind of temporal paradox. But then her identity is revealed to Chrom and there's a time paradox, which saves the world.
I really wish Elise could interact with Lissa.
same
We need a part two dlc where it would have Olvia,Gauis,Cordelia and Cherche
Because I just wanna see a support between Cherche and Camilla
I wanna see Asugi and Gaius talk just to see their first reactions to each other... I had the headcanon they were the same person and if Gaius met Asugi he would be liek "oH CRAP MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS"
3 words: Fire Emblem Warriors
0:33 (Mission Failed)
Laslow: Odin? ODIN? ODIIIIIIIIN!
+Snowdude 635 Metal Gear Odin: Guns of the Nohrians.
"Uncle Chrom"
I BET CHROM FEELS OLD AS FUCK NOW
he probably already felt that when a young woman suddenly walks up to him and calls him "father"
Hi! I'm Lissa. In this DLC, I'm just like Lilith. I just throw myself at incoming enemies cause why not?!
LOLOL savage
To be honest, she's the perfect distraction for the ninja lunge train.
+Andrew James Unless you want dem Exalt's and Hero's brands
Nah. I'm fine wit dem pebbles. + 7 forged pebbles are fun to use.
I just sent Xander and Ryoma right in the middle of enemy territory so that they aggro/bait every single enemy within range and destroy them while counter- attacking, so that Chrom (who keeps attacking Master Ninja's that he has less than 40% chance to hit) doesn't rush into his own death. Honestly Frederick is the only one who pulls his weight.
When you meet your grandma for the first time and you're both the same age
It might be stupid, but the Awakening characters and their children are legitimately some of my favorite things about Fates.
This kind of shit would drive Doc Brown to suicide
LOL
"I should still avoid family."
His mom instantly apears
and there Ophelia come with M Corrin & their daughter Kana suddenly shouting : HELLO GREAT GRANDMOTHER !
Game Theory is going to be all up in this one day.
*+Gameboy34* Yeah.
There is actually the theory that Robin always had two children (Morgan and the other Morgan from Future Past DLC), but only Grima from this universe and one Morgan end up in the Universe it takes place in.
The male Morgan (or Mark) ends up in Blazing Sword ... yup.
MatPat would love this.
+Der Slendy Wow, if all of that is indeed true, then this series will have a more confusing timeline than the Zelda series, and that involves Link dying in a game for part of it to be true!
+Der Slendy I love this completly crazy theories that make sense XD
Sir Aicos Yeah, I don't know how many people know about this, because I started that theory.
I just read a few comments and noticed that stuff.
But don't get too exited.
There are a lot of holes in this theory ... same with MatPat's theories tho ...
But seriously ... Robin or Male Morgan need to be Mark ... or all my fanfictions don't make sense!
I mean ... I actually didn't write fanfictions yet ... but maybe I will in the future ... AND THEY WON'T MAKE SENSE!
Gameboy34 No.
Nothing can beat Zelda.
I love how Ophelia looks like Lissa, in particular with her blond hair. They did a good job with their design!
(I just wish they could have done this with the Hoshido royal family too, because they don't look like siblings at all)
At least Hinoka, Takumi, and Sakura have a bit of an excuse since they're only half siblings.
@@diamondseraph9369 Actually all Hoshido siblings share the same mother! the previous Queen of Hoshido and Sumeragi first wife before Mikoto! (Corrin's mother was their "stepmother" as she was their father's concubine till the previous Queen Ikona, their blood mother and Sumeragi first wife's death! Corrin was officially adopted by Sumeragi to avoid any issues. This was kept under wraps by all but Ryoma who knew since he was with their father when they first met Mikoto and an already born Corrin, Hinoka likely assumed Corrin was born during that period hence why she didn't know till the letter thing at the Romance Support point with her .......Like Nana Love, I really wish they didn't go down this route, it's one thing to have the Incest vibes with the Nohr royal family despite being "forcefully adopted" by Garon for Corrin, doesn't change he was raised in their family structure as a sibling and worse if it's with Xander or Camilla seeing how Corrin, Leo and Elise view them more like replacement Father/Mother figures then their elder siblings)
It's the Nohr siblings who are half-siblings to each other (each of them have different mother's, Looking at Xander, Leo, and Elise. It's safe to say they inherited their father's hair color, Garon's original hair color is blond as Camilla most likely inherited her mother's hair color. I mean IS had some pictures of the Parents in their youth, with both Garon and Sumeragi looking similar to their eldest sons when they were younger. But they have enough differences to know it's younger versions of them! The crown Xander wears must be the crown worn by the Crown Prince if that is Garon when his father was still King seeing how he wore the same).
But yeah it's hard to see how any of the siblings look alike to each other! I can let Hinoka and Sakura pass from the fact I did get to see a picture of what "Queen " looked like (though it still doesn't get a pass because it was annoying how far they took trying to hide this little tidbit to BS Corrin being a member of their family, Seriously, couldn't Mikoto have been ananko's daughter or descendant and Corrin won the Genetic lottery in being born Manakate, but would have been Sumeragi child!, Would have still been good to make Sakura and Takumi Corrin's half siblings through his/her mother. Looking at Takumi, I feel like that was the original intent....but they realized the age thing would come to mind.....which still would have been solved by Mikoto's "inhuman heritage" and wouldn't have affected anything overall)
I imagine if Owain goes back to Ylisse world someday with Ophelia :"Hello mother ! Long time no see ! By the way, here's your grand daughter. - I'm glad to see you too, Ow... MY WHAAAAAAT ?!?!"
What if Ophelia showed her mark?
Everyone loses their mind
Odin : OH MY GOD OPHELIA NO
Lissa : Wait how did you get th- OH I KNEW IT IM NOT THE REAL PRINCESS SHE IS
Chrom : HOW IN THE- EXPLAIN THIS LADY
Frederick : JUST WHO IS THIS YOUNG LADY
and so on
Fredrick: I say this is a load of Pegasus dung.
+Bisalwayswright "Even I am not so devoted to milord that I would tattoo the mark of Naga onto myself so brazenly...!"
And Corrin's Like "What the heck is going on"
And then Corrin says: Can we just get back to the battle?
God, I need a DLC of this now!
So, wait...Owain has told his daughter NOTHING about her family? Not even her grandmother's NAME? Even SEVERA did that much! SEVERA!!!
I can imagine Odin/Owain signaling Ophelia to shut up while behind Lissa.
These conversations are even better to look back on if Owain was your son in Awakening!
So Owain influenced his own name? If this were MGS3 we'd be seeing a game over for creating a time paradox.
"If I ever have a son, I'll have to give him a name like that, too!"
i expected lissa to freak out about how Ophelia looked just like her. Frankly I was disappointed v.v
+Justice Oden Its quite odd how similar they look when you see them together but how different they look when viewed apart. Besides Ophelia can have many different hair colors so it wouldn't make sense for Lissa to recognize her right away. Now if Ophelia had described her Brand...that would've been interesting. All the grandchildren look similar to their grandmother besides Soliel who I think doesn't look like Olivia much at all.
+Kyle Pessell It only applies to Selena when she marries Tsubaki
Odin’s scream though.
Ophelia confirming she has a mark (fell or exalt, depending on whom married who to Lissa) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy as Lissa was so worried about her
Technically, Owain got his name from the name 'Odin' which he then received from a certain someone from the Hidden Truths Xenologue.
Is there a fan fic about Ophelia getting caught up in Awakening's story? It seems like a great opportunity.
I wrote one about 7 months ago, and just saw this comment now! Warning: it is pretty bad... m.fanfiction.net/s/12436281/1/Ophelia-s-brand
In game
No ITS official DLC
You not plays?
Ophelia confirming she has a mark (fell or exalt, depending on whom married who to Lissa) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy as Lissa was so worried about her mark never appearing and bam, her child's child proves she was always a real descendant.
owain proved it too.
When lissa says she’ll name her son after her son: yeah makes sense
You probably already know this, but make sure to show the ChromxCaeldori dialogue as well.
They have one?
It's short, but yes.
Chrome and Selena have dialogue as well.
@@auseraccount.1876 "Chrome and Selena have dialogue as well."
Does she have dialogue with Firefox, Edge or Internet Explorer too?
MRDZ Entertainment
No, as far as I know, Kaden doesn’t have dialogue with her, neither does Niles or Nina.
I think Yandex does though.
This time paradox is more confusing than the origins of The Song of Storms
so this whole time Odin/Owain was just a big bootstrap paradox...huh....neat
Young ones, strive for a relationship with your grandma the way Ophelia has with Lissa.
Ophelia: When my Mark
Me: Wait... OPHELIA SAY NOTHING MORE
bff with grandma this is amazing
"GRANDMAMA I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU SO LIVELY"
it just occurred to me that I had owain marry cynthia and had odin marry peri....I really hope there isn't a DLC with cynthia.....that would be uncomfortable
AND SO WE COME FULL CIRCLE
Odin: THIS IS YOUR GRANDMOMMY!! THIS IS YOUR GRANDMOMMY!! THIS IS YOUR GRANDMOMMY!, GRANDMOMMY!, GRANDMOMMY!
Odin's scream was perfect
So Odin’s name is a paradox
Lissa met Odin named her son Owain awakening happened and now this happens all over again.
Ah fair finger of fate delcares, I Ophpeila Dusk not show this mark
(brand) on my hand for plot covience.
_I SERIOUSLY WANT TO KNOW WHERE OPHELIA'S BRAND OF THE EXALT IS NOW-_
This breaks my heart for some reason??
Fire emblem fates
Corrin- Robin 2.0
Ophelia- Lissa 2.0
Rhajat- Tharja 2.0
Caledori-Cordelia 2.0
Gurei- Gaius 2.0
Aqua- Olivia 2.0 with water
Jakob-Frederick 0.9
Hayato- Asian ricken 2.0
Xander/Ryoma-2 halves of a full Chrom
Pieri- Female Henry 2.0
Velouria-Werewolf Nah 1.5
All so true.
+Number13teen actually... if you look at her death quote...tharja=rahjart2.0
+Keith Jordan L And Selkie remiends me of Nowi, i dont know abut you ( i mean in personallity)
KrlosHM123 she does her playful demeanor and age reminds me of a puppy version of Nowi
Keith Jordan L although nowi is FAR older... mentally at least. selkie's personality isn't that deep after all.
although it is funny to see that selkie looks like nowi and veloria looks like nah...
Wow Lissa could be a potential great grandmother if Kana is involved
i love lissa's smile
how i miss it
I want a new version of Owain/Odin in every new fe
or a decendant of odin/owain. so Ophelia's child
@0:33 lol that scream
This kinda makes me really sad...
0:32, that fucking scream!
Seen Jakob and Fredrick's conversation yet?
Love that one. XD
Now I get what she meant when you do her Paralouge when she mentions something about being marked, that means that Odin has the Mark that Lissa and Chrom have! OMGG
(Awakening Spoilers although the game came out in like 2012)
Lissa actually never got the mark. It always made her question whenever she was loyalty or not. So when Owain was born and had his exalted brand (which was removed in Hidden Truths I believe) Lissa was ecstatic cause that meant she was royalty after all.
@@skeletonorchestra1504 in one of the koma pages Robin suggests that it could be in a hard to see spot, like on the back of here head
Caeldori is an anagram for Cordelia. She is almost the exact same character, voice actress and all.
+Craig DelliCarpini i thought caeldori was an anagram for ricelord
+Kevin the Potato RiceLOAD. Geddit right.
I don't have this dlc BUT ARE YOU SERIOUS I DIDN'T KNOW ODIN IS RELATED TO CHROM SINCE HE CLAIMED THAT'S HIS UNCLE AND LISSA IS HIS MOTHER SO MIND BLOWING 😱😱😱😱😱
yuki nagato ... You didn't play Awakening, did you? Or, if you did, Lissa never got married in your run.
uh... Chrom is Lisa's pet brother... so...
And just like that owain/Odin gives himself his own name
So let me guess this straight....there are now apparently two Odins/Owains?
Theres actually many different Owains because alternate dimensions and timelines and shit. This Owain is either the one who traveled in time to any of our awakening save files, helped beat Grima, then went with Anankos, or he was from the future past timeline, beat the fuck outta grima, and then he went with anankos
*How the hell did i never realize i could do this?!*
You know I realized. Owa...... Odin got his mark removed right? But it passed down onto his child....... did she not question why it was there?!?!
No she does in her and odin’s A support
I just wish they gave these conversations to the amiibos. Also, the amiibos should get support conversations with each other and the Awakening units in Fates.
You're not the only one. Before I got my Ike and Robin amiibo, I thought to myself if I could have them do support conversations with the other characters. I thought that would be awesome. Until I found out it didn't work like that.. Still good characters to use though
Rafael Lopez If it was real, I could live out my life-long dream of shipping the Fate Changers, Lucina and Corrin.
Also, if Lucina one shots almost every character in Lunatic mode, she deserves some support conversations, and a dialogue when she levels.
0:33 That Sound tho.
So many fandoms are surging through my mind and jokes XD
Waaaaiiit... I think I understand what Ophelia means when she refers to a mark now!
Because Lissa and Chrom related (at least, as far as I know), that would mean that Lissa also bears the brand somewhere on her body. meaning that Odin and Ophelia ALSO bear a brand. So, when Ophelia refers to a mark, she's actually referring to the brand she has!
Supapretzel Jenkins actually Lissa never inherited the brand of the exalt unlike her siblings Chrom and Emmeryn, her potential nephew Inigo/Laslow, niece Lucina, son Owain/Odin and granddaughter Ophelia as shown in several of her support conversations.
I see... Then again, I've yet to actually play Awakening (I know, blasphemy) so...
“Young lady, you listen to your granny and put on something _decent_ before you catch pneumonia!”
I just got this DLC and then found this
I would have loved it if Ophelia accidentally called Lissa grandma
So... Is the mark Ophelia talked about the brand of the exhault?
Yes.
...Psst... you misspelled 'Phoenix'.
That's how he likes to spell it
Just bringing this up involving that DLC the West never got (thanks, Treehouse), the Children's Festival DLC. If Ophelia is Kana's mom, Kana will mention that she thinks that she might be sick because a peculiar mark suddenly appeared on her. Ophelia said that she has that mark and she was told by Odin that it's a special mark that only a select few possess. So for Ophelia, she thinks that it's proof that she and Kana are indeed Chosen Ones.
oh damn, I didn't think about who Ophelia was, I thought it was another child character from awakening disguised, and it took till I read the description that I figured out it was Owain/Odin's daughter
I don't understand in this chapter dlc chrom says that hoshido and nohr are mythical but they have kids that end up living in a mythical place
+Mr. Freezeman Outrealm gate... Fire Emblem's Multiverse
outrealm shenanigans
+Mr. Freezeman The realm we call the Fates Realm is real in the Multiverse, however assumed as a myth in the Awakening Realm, both realms are real in fact, just separate. It's like how fairy tales are originated from some truth or fact. Also, someone/something transported Odin/Owain, Selena/Serena, and Laslow/Inigo to this different realm. It's in another DLC that explains how they entered the Fates Realm.
Wait i just thought, if Odin and Ophelia arr in the start of the timelin, could it be possible they somehow survived the great flood, moved to Archaea and became the royal family of Marth's blood line.
Have you done the Jakob vs. Frederick conversation yet? I literally just discovered it today.
Odin Dark reminds me of HOUOUIN KYOUMA!!
Ophelia is Lucario now, apparently
awww now I want soleil talking to Olivia!
I'm confused as to the chronology of these events. I think this DLC happened before Awakening. But considering Owain's name is already different here, this implies post-Awakening. I'll guess that this happened before Fates and they traveled to pre-Awakening to pursue some Vallites.
Oh snap. Ophelia has the Mark of Naga? shiet.
No, she has the Brand of the Exalt, because she's Lissa's grandchild.
+Your Everyday Gamer The Mark of Naga is another name for the Brand of the Exalt
MrPKRockinOmega Pretty sure I commented that to point out why she has it, but I can't remember. Ur probably right.
now imagine if Marth married Tiki. Divine Dragon blood and Mark of Naga? oh yes please
But Owain's Brand was gone when he turns into Odin
To think all these extra DLCs will disappear within a year if they aren't purchased.
Reminder that Lissa becomes a Great-Grandma if Corrin marries Ophelia.
1:38 Because you did
Lisa realises the truth soon after
This is some real Doctor Who level stuff! I mean........There talking about lands that don’t really exist when it first came out (in our minds at least)
How could he have inspired his own name if he was named Owain in Awakening and Odin in Fates?
To be fair, Owain shows up before he's born anyways so Lissa probably just named him Owain, but maybe commented to a young owain that she was considering Odin Dark for a time.