this is very extensive and easy to understand. I wish the crop tool had a couple additional features, such as keyboard shortcuts to switch between landscape and portrait in the crop tool and an auto align/level the horizon.
I agree with you on the shortcut. I think that the auto align feature is unlikely because that would require some significant understanding of what's in the image. PM is a fast image viewer, not an editor, so it is unlikely to ever get that capability. What I'd prefer is the image rotate rather than the frame, similar to Lightroom.
Hi, and first of all thanks for all the time you put in making these videos! I would like to ask, and hopefully you could find the time answering me... I use Capture One (also dpp4, and Lightroom) to develop my pictures, but I prefer doing the crop within PM6. Do you know how to make these programs recognize PM's crop? I see you say its supposed to simply work, but it doesn't for me... PM's crop is totally ignored.. Anything in the settings that I missed? Thanks ahead, and have a wonderful day!
Hi Moshe, I am glad that you find the videos of value. I am a Lightroom user so not an expert with C1. But PM creates an XMP file containing the crop settings that the external editors should be able to read. You might look at Preferences > ITPC/XMP and where is shows When writing ITPC/XMP for JPEG, TIFF, PSD, DNG photos: check Add embedded. Mine is not checked but I am shooting raw. That may help.
@@jeffvoganphotography Thanks and sorry for my late reply. Had so much stuff going on, hadn’t the time to get on with this… Anyhow, in the meantime I stopped using C1 (the Canon colors are better with Lr than C1, but still not close to the excellent but unusable DPP4) tried what you said but it doesn’t work yet. I shoot RAW+JPG. Also would be nice to be able to see the edits made in Lightroom show up in PM. In the meantime I wish you a great day and succes with your channel!
Thank you Jeff! Another great video. I like how you are focusing on one topic at a time for your videos. Your teaching style is clear, concise and easy to understand. Topic suggestion: Will you be teaching about how to use each field in the Metadata (IPTC) Template?
I'm new to PM but understand Lightroom. Once cropped, how do you get the cropped image into Lightroom or another editor? Do I have to export the image to use the cropped version? Does the "full" icon show the inage as cropped? Thanks.
Sorry I missed this question. When you crop in PM, it carries the crop settings over to LR/PS/C1. Just simply edit with the editor of choice and the crop settings should be carried into your editor. It is a non-destructive crop from PM, so you are not getting rid of any pixels. You can change the crop later in LR/PS/C1 if you choose.
Hi Bob, did it work out for you? Because I didn't succeed in making it work out.. Tried all kinds of settings, but once in an external editor (tried Capture One, dpp4, and Lightroom) PM's crop doesn't show up.. Hope you find some time to answer me. Thanks ahead and have a wonderful day!
Hi ans thanks for your video. It seems that foe the crop to take place in actuallity, we need to let PM regenerate a new JPG export, right? Also, for some reason the quality of that export seems to me to be of a lesser quality than other JPG generators (I use DXO). Am I missing something?
I am not sure what you are trying to do regarding exports. PM is a file browser, not an editor. If you crop a raw file, for example, PM creates an XML file that describes the crop. It is non-destructive so no pixels are lost. When you import the image into an external editor such as Lightroom or Photoshop, the editor reads the raw file and XML file. I have never compared the quality of jpgs generated by PM against those created by external editors. I have never noticed any reduction in quality when PM generates the jpg files.
@@jeffvoganphotography thanks for your swift answer!! Apparently it's because I use DXO, which doesn't recognize PM's crop... And yeah when Pixel-Peeping (...), DXO's JPG looks better at the same %... Anyhows, do you have by chance (or know) a good video that explains what I can do and how to use the cataloging features of 6 PLUS? Thanks again, have a great day (night)!
@@jeffvoganphotography what I was trying to do is cropping in PM, and then upload these images to my site from within PM. For that I need PM to generate new JPGs, otherwise it doesn't apply the crop
When you take the image into LR/PS, the crop info (maintained in the XMP file) is retained. When you “save as” make sure the Apply Crop box is checked.
I would set a constrained crop in PM to 100 x 73.8667 to get the correct perspective. Then when I export from Lightroom, I'd set the correct crop size. But you may have cropped too small, so I have smart galleries in LR that will show me the images that are too small. I record them larger and they should disappear from that smart gallery.
Yes when you crop in PM then bring the image into C1, the non-destructive crop is maintained. No pixels are lost and you can change the crop later in C1 if you wish.
@@jeffvoganphotography i found that is actually possible, by entering the sizs variable in info panel. Is not real time, it refresh after the mouse is let go, but it works just fine
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Thanks, Jeff. I am brand new to Photo Mechanic and, as a retired teacher, really appreciate your videos. I also really like your sports photo work.
Glad that the videos are helpful. Thanks for the kind words about my photography work.
Best cropping tool....I love how I can Copy the crop size and apply it to multiple selected images.
And it is so much faster than cropping in Lightroom.
this is very extensive and easy to understand. I wish the crop tool had a couple additional features, such as keyboard shortcuts to switch between landscape and portrait in the crop tool and an auto align/level the horizon.
I agree with you on the shortcut. I think that the auto align feature is unlikely because that would require some significant understanding of what's in the image. PM is a fast image viewer, not an editor, so it is unlikely to ever get that capability. What I'd prefer is the image rotate rather than the frame, similar to Lightroom.
Many thanks!
Hope it’s helpful.
Awesome extensive tutorial on a single tool Makes you appreciate all the fine details involved in a simple action. Great tutorial.
Glad it was helpful! Lots more where this came from.
beautifully explained. Loved it. Thanks!
I’m glad that you found it helpful. I will be doing several more shortly.
Another wonderful tutorial
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback!
@@jeffvoganphotography more than welcome
Hi, and first of all thanks for all the time you put in making these videos! I would like to ask, and hopefully you could find the time answering me... I use Capture One (also dpp4, and Lightroom) to develop my pictures, but I prefer doing the crop within PM6. Do you know how to make these programs recognize PM's crop? I see you say its supposed to simply work, but it doesn't for me... PM's crop is totally ignored.. Anything in the settings that I missed? Thanks ahead, and have a wonderful day!
Hi Moshe, I am glad that you find the videos of value. I am a Lightroom user so not an expert with C1. But PM creates an XMP file containing the crop settings that the external editors should be able to read. You might look at Preferences > ITPC/XMP and where is shows When writing ITPC/XMP for JPEG, TIFF, PSD, DNG photos: check Add embedded. Mine is not checked but I am shooting raw. That may help.
@@jeffvoganphotography Thanks and sorry for my late reply. Had so much stuff going on, hadn’t the time to get on with this… Anyhow, in the meantime I stopped using C1 (the Canon colors are better with Lr than C1, but still not close to the excellent but unusable DPP4) tried what you said but it doesn’t work yet. I shoot RAW+JPG. Also would be nice to be able to see the edits made in Lightroom show up in PM.
In the meantime I wish you a great day and succes with your channel!
Thank you Jeff! Another great video. I like how you are focusing on one topic at a time for your videos.
Your teaching style is clear, concise and easy to understand.
Topic suggestion: Will you be teaching about how to use each field in the Metadata (IPTC) Template?
Yes, that’s on the list for upcoming videos. Thanks for the suggestion.
Very helpful. I'm curious about the stack of colored bands (belts??) sitting on your shoulder.
Those are all the lanyards for the credentials from the events I’ve covered.
I'm new to PM but understand Lightroom. Once cropped, how do you get the cropped image into Lightroom or another editor? Do I have to export the image to use the cropped version? Does the "full" icon show the inage as cropped? Thanks.
Sorry I missed this question. When you crop in PM, it carries the crop settings over to LR/PS/C1. Just simply edit with the editor of choice and the crop settings should be carried into your editor. It is a non-destructive crop from PM, so you are not getting rid of any pixels. You can change the crop later in LR/PS/C1 if you choose.
@@jeffvoganphotography is it possible to export the cropped photo from PM & save the crop without having to import it to Lightroom ?
Hi Bob, did it work out for you? Because I didn't succeed in making it work out.. Tried all kinds of settings, but once in an external editor (tried Capture One, dpp4, and Lightroom) PM's crop doesn't show up.. Hope you find some time to answer me. Thanks ahead and have a wonderful day!
Hi ans thanks for your video. It seems that foe the crop to take place in actuallity, we need to let PM regenerate a new JPG export, right?
Also, for some reason the quality of that export seems to me to be of a lesser quality than other JPG generators (I use DXO). Am I missing something?
I am not sure what you are trying to do regarding exports. PM is a file browser, not an editor. If you crop a raw file, for example, PM creates an XML file that describes the crop. It is non-destructive so no pixels are lost. When you import the image into an external editor such as Lightroom or Photoshop, the editor reads the raw file and XML file. I have never compared the quality of jpgs generated by PM against those created by external editors. I have never noticed any reduction in quality when PM generates the jpg files.
@@jeffvoganphotography thanks for your swift answer!! Apparently it's because I use DXO, which doesn't recognize PM's crop... And yeah when Pixel-Peeping (...), DXO's JPG looks better at the same %...
Anyhows, do you have by chance (or know) a good video that explains what I can do and how to use the cataloging features of 6 PLUS?
Thanks again, have a great day (night)!
@@jeffvoganphotography what I was trying to do is cropping in PM, and then upload these images to my site from within PM. For that I need PM to generate new JPGs, otherwise it doesn't apply the crop
I really like your video's. My question is how do you save the crop using PM? Thanks
When you take the image into LR/PS, the crop info (maintained in the XMP file) is retained. When you “save as” make sure the Apply Crop box is checked.
OK, Thanks@@jeffvoganphotography
Question. For MaxPreps they want
The crop to be exactly 3000x2216 pixels . Can you crop inside PM to those specific recommendations ?
I would set a constrained crop in PM to 100 x 73.8667 to get the correct perspective. Then when I export from Lightroom, I'd set the correct crop size. But you may have cropped too small, so I have smart galleries in LR that will show me the images that are too small. I record them larger and they should disappear from that smart gallery.
Can I export the cropped JPG to Capture One?
Yes when you crop in PM then bring the image into C1, the non-destructive crop is maintained. No pixels are lost and you can change the crop later in C1 if you wish.
@@jeffvoganphotography Thanks for the prompt reply. I like your videos, they help me a lot.
@@edmundorzsik1842 glad the videos are helpful to you
Is the cropped image also brought into Lightroom, or must I export/save it first?
Cropped image also brought into LR. It's a non-destructive crop meaning that no pixels are harmed in the process.
is there a way see the actual crop size (in pixels)?
Not that I am aware of. I would typically look to Lightroom to provide that data. I have never thought to look at that information in PM.
@@jeffvoganphotography i found that is actually possible, by entering the sizs variable in info panel. Is not real time, it refresh after the mouse is let go, but it works just fine