The Curse Of Being The Maknae
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Hey guys hope you enjoyed it
✨About me ✨
Name:Anika
Pronouns ; she/her
ult bias : Hoshi(svt);Ryujin (itzy)
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stray kids , seventeen , itzy , got7, ateez, p1harmony, exo ,txt
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0:00 intro
0:14 What is the maknae
1:38 The Babying Of Maknae
5:27 Conclusion
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Yeah it's extremely weird to act like grown up maknaes are still children. OR to act like people who just turned 18/19 are now suddenly "full adults" as they are clearly not. Just make everything age appropriate, please! 😭
I personally think a great example of this is Jang Wonyoung,
Back during her Produce days she was babied by everyone including judges which is normal because she was the youngest and was only 13 and it carried on in IZ*ONE she was even named Giant baby/Maknae her bubbly,funny,wild and cute personality was what many fans loved about her,
But when she debuted in IVE and started maturing and became quieter than she used to be people started saying she changed and wasn’t the same Wonyoung but when she acted like when she was younger that once cute bubbly personality became cringe,fake and "Pick Me behaviour"
I love Wonyoung! I think it's funny that the people that try to "hate her" start making her viral instead.
So glad you mentioned the babying in depth. My ult bias for many years has been Jeongin from Stray Kids and it's constantly bugged me how much he's babied. Its absurd to me that even though he's 23 years old people are still constantly babying him and he's mentioned how he wants to seen for more than being the maknae. It's especially bad when people will go praise the other members for their skills and when it comes to him a majority of what I see even from within the fandom is within some relation to him being the maknae. Kpop stans really need to get a grip sometimes esp when it comes to the babying or sexualization of idols :/
i'm also a i.n stan and i totally agree with you! while i think he has a really adorable smile and personality, it sucks that that's all people see about him. i barely see anyone praise his singing skills which are really underrated! i think he's really cute but he's also a lot more than that and i wish people stopped viewing him like a one-dimensional character, say "oh, he's cute" and then forget about him. stray kids everywhere all around the world🤍
Ngl I think we should treat all idols same unless their teens like 15 - 16 but after that they don't need to be babied so much. Idols are people too and people grow up and after teen years everyone wants to try new stuff, just like that, idols wanna do that too. Unfortunately , fans who baby the idols so much don't let them grow and find new things fpr them. So-called fans act as if the idols belong to them.
i kind of hate the maknae position, like what's even the point? it's problematic. the best example of this is ni-ki, when he was still a minor people would sexualize the hell out of him, but now that he's 18 and he's no longer the chaotic, goofy maknae, some engenes are starting to complain about him not behaving like a kid anymore, and it's just so weird to me, it's almost as if his whole personality was being the youngest 😭
other than him being sexualised, i dont see any of the other things happening? almost everyone constantly calls him the best dancer of the group and if u ask a non engene what they think of niki, theyd mention him being a dancer before him being a maknae. the group doesnt baby him and neither do the fans
First of all,lovely new logo.
Being maknae is like being the baby of the family. But based on how the youngest members are treated and portrayed, some fans think it's cool for their idol to remain the same. Fans tend to forget that their idols are people,they grow and they change. The company also has to help the idol (as you said plus my opinion) switch the concept or show another side of the idols. But it's Kpop,it's different, it's lovely,it's also kind of weird. We'd never know why companies 'baby idols' and why the idols are managed as they are. I believe the best we can do is hope for the best.
thank you!💕💕 Yeah, I completely agree,That will never truly know why companies push these images of the youngest member to kind of wanting people to baby them. But well that’s just a theory ✨💕
I totally agree with the points you mentioned! Throughout my years as a kpop fans, I did view maknaes as this cutie, need-to-be-protected member (probably because I'm a big sister in the family, so I mostly adore those who are younger). I think I was woken up from this view when I saw Jungkook's gradual change; it's THAT drastic, in my opinion. All the maknaes of my fav groups are grown up rn, so I started to think, "ahhh the babies are growing up!" like doting parents lmao.
I think Dino from SVT is actually pretty lucky in this case. In SVT debut days, Pledis did promote him as the cute maknae with talent and questionable hairstyles. I think what helps his change is actually how SVT members treat him. They're DEFINITELY not babying him, and they tease him in daily basis; thus established Dino as a bullied maknae. It also helps that fans like to point out Dino's and S.coups' starkingly different situation: S.coups is the maknae of his family but the oldest in SVT, meanwhile Dino is the oldest sibling but the maknae in SVT. This also creates an image of maturity in him while at the same time, capable of having moments where he's unconsciously behaves like a maknae. SVT really has the most interesting idol image (if they still has any image left-as they keep destroying their own (company-assigned) image lmao).
I'm sorry to rant in your comment section 😂 I like to hear your opinion, so keep it going! Good luck 😊
yeah i agreed with the dino situation i feel like unknowing bullying dino helped him not have the intense babying fandom as we kinda seem him as a person and adult rather then just a baby tbh and hence explore more artistically
and i hope everyone could just think of the maknaes just growing up then being too over invested and thinking that they changed cause they just wanna try more things
thanks for watching glad you liked it means a lot 💗✨
there are a lot of maknaes who aren't babied and its when they are actually skilled or atleast try to improve with time. niki from enha being super young and he was never babied even once since iland because he is an amazing dancer and people cant ignore it. jungkook being a good singer also makes people talk abt his skill more than him just being a maknae. huening kai from txt is a bad example where he is a really stable and good singer but because hes a maknae and is very vocal about how much he likes plushies and cute things, it became his brand. its all about setting ur image and even though the company does have a role in it, its also upto the idols to mention their hobbies and skills and cement a good image of themselves early on because once u stop talking about how much u like performing or singing and mention being cute or liking cute things more, it sticks to u for years. i think in most new groups, there are many talented members but the maknaes arent very skilled and dont even talk about wanting to improve their skills which makes them the designated maknae automatically cuz theres no other personality trait. eunchae, for example, was given a really good opportunity to host star diary and that couldve single handedly changed her image from just a maknae to someone who is witty or funny or honest. i get that shes an introvert but its been months and she is still shy around guests and asks them the same old questions. i personally love watching it because its cute to see my bias interacting with a cute younger sister which, again, just enforces her maknae image more. non moas thought of soobin as a cute leader but once he became an mc, he'd go viral every week for his blunt humor. i personally think that if maknaes or idols in general have a trait or two that stands out, it will show. if they're stuck with a certain image its because there's nothing else to go by
I do agree that this position seems to be given to the person when they don’t shine in a particular skill, but with Niki and Jungkook, as you said tho they weren’t as babied as let’s say eunchae but these people were highly sexualized from their teenage
so they did not get the curse of being highly babied but the people did still look at them in a particular way of
when will they grow up and not be the youngest member
so that is also a bad thing
At the same time i Also feel honestly that being the youngest member doesn’t have anything to do with skill I mentioned Dino from seventeen He is such a talented main dancer and he is the youngest member tho svt doesn’t really baby him so there are exceptions,
but yeah most people do end up babying the youngest member a lot, and that breaks the way that they can grow as the artist
even Jungkook suffered through this while he was exploring with different concepts
I agree. Another recent example would be IVE Rei. I haven't finished the video yet, maybe you've mentioned her. But seeing her on so many variety shows alone this comeback surprised me. She has this cute maknae image but that doesn't hinder her from being all out savage on many shows. I really loved that image development that had come to her. I think the idols can play a big role in their image setting for sure, at least a some tome into their career.
I think the title maknae started become an actual position during 3rd gen. When I started stanning kpop, around 2nd gen, it just mean that they're the youngest. Like back then the maknaes are like Minzy, Seohyun, Kyuhyun, Taemin etc. You can tell they're the youngest by their dynamic, but that's that. On stage or while working they're seen as an actual idol on duty. They don't have 'maknae' stamp on their forehead.
Funnily enough, I think it stunted Tzuyu's growth. She's very shy and reserved, so has not broken out of the mould of being Maknae, despite being closer to 30 years old than 20. I love Tzuyu, but I's also love to see her be more mature, just like every other Twice member has, including Chaeyoung, whose personality wouldn't let her be shoehorned into a childlike role
Honestly the maknae of my favorite group was seen smoking in a pic he posted on Instagram and his fans freaked out.
I mean, yeah, it sucks he’s smoking, but he’s a grown ass man. He was born in 1996. Sheesh.
and the fact that sk has a smoking prob like most of these idols prob smoke people need to get out of their bubbles
@@HoshiningI kinda get why they smoke, stress relief and all, and it genuinely sucks since it’s literally bad for you, but I literally can’t do anything to make these kids drop the habit. I’m not their parents.
Good video. As a fan of kpop, I think the idea of maknaes are fun, but you're totally right that it gets to a point sometimes where people can't see past the "concept" of being a maknae.
I'm also glad you mentioned Ni-Ki a few times. You could have honestly made an entire video on him. IMO, he experienced the FULL "Jungkook Maknae treatment" by fans. He was SO young, SO talented, and SOOO over-sexualized WAY too fast. Ni-KI got tall FAST, so he looked far older than he actually is, making it REALLY easy for people to sexualize him.
i agree belift sucks at his management and even when people were asking him questions way beyond his age he as a teen had to tell them he was minor so he can’t marry them like 💀
Oh lord. Marriage questions. If anything, the only relief was that his band members were pretty good about intervening and reminding fans he's still underage, so that they should check themselves.🙄@@Hoshining