Talvisota- The Winter War ([Rare video] Friends of Finland)
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2008
- In 1939 American sympathy for Finland.
In spite of the great publicity, Finland received little effective military help. The Swedish unit with Norwegians thrown in was the only significant foreign unit to see action. The volunteer movement made greater impact on psychological front: the Finnish people felt that they had not been totally abandoned although the sympathy without action generated some sombre comments among Finns. The fact that little effective military help managed to reach Finland was in turn proof that the Western democracies could not give any guarantees for Finland's freedom. This was even more evident when soon after the Winter War Germany occupied Denmark and Norway thus effectively cutting any routes from Finland to the West. This in turn was one factor in forcing Finland to accept German help against the Soviet threat.
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The WAR between small Christian Finland and Godless Soviet Union!
''Suomi voi olla pieni maa, mutta rakastamme vapautta niin, ettemme ikinä hyväksy tappiota''
Iho meni kananlihalle tätä kuunnellessa :)
surullista miten vapaus on heitetty romukoppaan ja maata senkun tuhotaan ja maan päätäntävaltaa ulkoistetaan eu:lle ja muille ulkomaalaisille järjestöille
1940
The Finnish speeches during the continuation war were even more idealistic and stubborn, so much so that they still put they shivers down the spine. Despite the ideals however, the western world as well as fate itself had abandoned us by then unfortunately.
Samaten molemmat ISO isädt sotivat ryssiä vasten
✌️🇫🇴🇫🇴🇫🇴🇫🇴🇫🇴❤️🤫
One of the first victims of the bombing of Helsinki was 7-year-old girl named Armi Hillevi Metsäpelto.
And in the Swedish newspapers there were whole page ads that said (in Swedish, of course): " Now the world knows, what it is to be a Finn. You show, what it is to be a Swede."
In Finnish: " Nyt tietää maailma, mitä on olla suomalainen. Näytä sinä, mitä on olla ruotsalainen. "
And in Swedish: "Nu vet världen vad det är att vara finne. Visa DU vad det är att vara Svensk."
Neljä vuotta myöhemmin pohdin, että onko tuon lauseen sanoma ruotsalaisten kansankiihottamista ja sympatiaa suomalaisia kohtaan vai kaikkea muuta kuin positiivista?? Koska sota aikana ruotsalaisten suhtautumista ja apua voidaan kyseenalaistaa.
@@theunusualdispenser9474 No ei ruotsi tehny paljoo muuta ku trades Saksan kaa, mun tietääkseni ainakin.
@@theunusualdispenser9474 Aika heikolla pohjalla on historian tuntemuksesi.
Ruotsin hallitus (suurimmaksi osaksi) halusi pestä kätensä koko asiasta ja pysyä neutraalina.
Toisin kuin ruotsalaiset, eli kansa, halusi tukea Suomea.
Se mitä media kirjoittaa/kirjoitti, on yhdentekevää.
@@firstlast4379 "Mieli on teoissa, Mutta teot harvassa." Muistakaa tämä. Se palvelee teitä.
@@tikkurilaboi6893 tuli sieltä joku määrä vapaaehtosia sotimaan meiän kaa
There is some bastards below, those who defence Russia's actions and insult Finland.
1. Someone said that we had concentration camps, which isn't true. We had PRISON camps for prisoners of war, and we treated them well.
2. Someone also said that we were barbarians, monsters, but they should buy a huge mirror and see which one was evil, that dirty Soviet Union or our peaceful country where they attacked.
If you look at Russia's actions nowadays, you can see Russia hasn't changed. Unfortunately, when i watched criterions of a democratic country and dictatorship, Russia filled all marks of dictatorship.
SNIPER Hits nice Iraq, Yugoslavia, Iran, Libya, Syria, Panama, Grenada, support of neo-nazi juntas in America. Who did that? Peaceful US i think. But, of course, RUSSIAN IVAN MUST BE DESTROYED :-)
BelarusKing Why're you implying like we're in the same boat as the USA?
Finland =/= USA.
And russian bombed its own village just to make a war even finnish cannons cud not bom it
Sorry for my bad english
SNIPER Hits nice Actually we had concentration camps, mainly for Jehova's witnesses and for conscientious objectors. Don't deny the bad things that happened in our soil.
Respect to Finland and the heroes of the Winter War!!!! (from Romania)
God Bless Finland
God Bless the United States
@@Zeppec *no
@@Zeppec no
@@andreasmeyer-landrut1463 한국은 항상 이긴다
@@Zeppec Didn't ask kid
Love Finland. My wife's great uncle fell in the Continuation War, a few days before the cease-fire. I'm going to see to it that our son is aware of his Finnish ancestry. Proud, brave country.
An admirable people, the Finns... My grandfather's brother was with the Swedish volunteer forces fighting with the Finnish army in the Winter War. He didn't say much about his experiences but a couple of times he shared some horrific memories from the actual fighting. Hearing this from a relative who had actually BEEN THERE made a powerful impact...
@@JanJohanssonmusic going to fight for a foreign country voluntarily takes some serious balls
props to him
*National Spirit: Sisu*
Division Recovery Rate: +25%
Division Attrition: -10%
Division Attack on core territory: +20%
Division Defense on core territory: +20
Sisu is the uniquely Finnish expression for the resilience of the nation's people. Finland has faced harsh odds and will do so again.
Thank you grandparents and a thank you to all the men and women who helped us to protect our land, help gain our independence and freedom. Never forgotten. Kiitos!!!
Oh, the Americans soon changed their tune when Finland tried to get its lost territory back...............
You mean the British. The USA did not declare war on Finland. ...and from wikipedia: "U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull congratulated the Finnish envoy on 3 October 1941 for the liberation of Karelia but warned Finland not to enter Soviet territory; furthermore, the United States did not declare war on Finland when it went to war alongside the Axis countries and, together with the UK, approached Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin at the Tehran Conference about acknowledging Finnish independence."
Thanks. A great shame Finland has lost Karelia and other ceded territories for good.
the americans kept dumping the soviets shit-tons of weapons that the finnish soldiers kept destroying
I suppose we should thank the US for feeding our troops too. Well they gave the food to the ruskies, but some of it was captured. Still kind of a cringy video considering the fact that they were actively helping our enemies while filming this.
Indeed there are pictures to prove that. In 1942 When Finland had occupied Petrozavodks. There we're axis and american officers together (which is strange) in presence , but not a single brit attended. www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/681kga/finnish_german_italian_french_american_and/
I love Finland!♥
yes
Rakas suomi :,)
I'm a Finnish-American...there aren't very many of us, but then again, there aren't too many Finns even in Suomi. My family has always been very proud of our Finnish heritage, as my grandparents came to the USA during the 1920's. We love our coffee and NISUA ;) Finland was the only country to repay it's war debt after the 2nd world war...part of our Finnish character is being self-reliant and not owing anything to anybody.
SISU, my dear brethren. Peace, from the USA.
Sisu is strongest character in the world
All the more reason to be thankful to those ten thousand Swedish volunteers who came to our aid, some of whom never came back home.
1939: hippity hoppity get of property
1941: hippity hoppity gimme back my property
1943: hippity hoppity get of my property (again)
1944 Finland * turns around to look at germany*
Get off my property
by chance I searched and found this link to a war that so much reminds me of the war today that is being fought by the Ukraine people.
Is anyone here surprised at the fact that this whole film is scrupulously careful not to mention the name of the attacker?
More than ever brings to mind the Hobbit and lord of the rings stories. After all Tolkien was greatly inspired by Kalevala. In the same way Finns were humble and mostly modest about achievements and the underdog. We got assistance of our brothers! Who recall after this war that even though they were voluntary they realised that it was their duty! Even though we had an undefeatable enemy we won. In form of our independence. No joke! A true story for the whole humen kind to know who rocks who. Who am i to know? I'm a decent of kareli half and completely swedish speaking for fathers in Finland. Horosity was great on both sides. Brave men fought against each other. Because of soviet union, these men paid their lives!
I don't understan ween people says such a thing as, Russian have all right to invade Finland. those pepole are going on russian propaganda, just bullshit. Finland was just a peaceful country but the russia want more land. Do you realy think thats okey to invade another country because you want more land. fucking bullshit Russia
Russians a country full of cowards xD Tänne vaan iso mies putin
And I dont understand when people say that Finland which broke away from Russia in 1917 should not have been returned back but at the same time they claim that Crimea which broke away from Ukraine under pretty much similar circumstances must be returned back to Ukraine. Would you explain this to me?
Finland was it's own country for such a long time before that. Before being under Russian rule, it was under Swedish rule, but the country always existed on it's own. Finland also didn't "break away" from Russia, but Russia gave Finland it's independence after long political discussions and absolutely no aggression. Coming back after less than 30 years and trying to take it back by force just because of a pact that they made with Germany gives them zero right to do so.
Finalnd declared independence in December 1917, a month after illegal communist coup. Therefore no long political discussion could have possibly taken place between them. Crimea was an autonomy inside Ukraine the same way as Finland was an autonomy inside Russia. Both wanted to secede and both did after an illegal seizure of power in respective countries. Yet the cause of Finland percepted as rightful and the cause of Crimea as not. Talking of history Crimea too appeared to be a part of Ukraine by a strange historical accident, and their secession from Ukraine was predictable and was only a matter of time.
Here is the difference that Crimea did not become independent but Russia took it for itself! Think what it would be like if Sweden had taken over Finland during the Russian Civil War. Would it have been more harmed?
I just started playing Talvisota: Winter War on Rising Storm 2 and can't believe this conflict went under my radar. I'm always researching war history. I have my work cut out for me.
Woah can I play it with you too!
I downloaded it first time almost 6months ago, sadly the game is dead by now :( cant never experience it
Allies had a chance but axis supported Finland
Welcome to NATO, Finland!
The Soviets got their asses kicked in Finland, too bad the Finns couldn't take out a few million.
inb4 soviets win winter war and take karelia
nikita hrutzev told finnish president that over million russians died fighting finland.
@@centralizedthinking they lost if they would have won finland would have become like baltics puppet for soviet union that was stalins plan take finland instal puppet coverment and anex.
Finland lost but win by keeping finland free from soviets.
And if this winter war would have fought in egual footing same man power and armor finland would have won.
@@centralizedthinking Ivan your cuntry is simply put balalaika and the smeII of shit.
@@sammydavis4218 Yes, he said so. But that number is probably a bit too high. In winter war they lost some 150.000 .....200.000 (and Finland lost 9.000). Later the war continued and there Russia lost over 500.000 (and Finland around 90.000). So Khrutsev may mean their all losses together.
Interesting film, very obscure. Thank you for posting this piece of history.
Thank You very much - I love seeing pieces of history like this.
r u in the war
Kyllä oon niin ylpeä suomalaisuudestani. Suomalaiset ei ryssiä kumarra eikä ruottalaisia myöskään ja toivon nyt tänä vuonna Suomen jääkiekkomaajoukkueen osoittavan talvisodan luonnetta ja kovuutta että toinen kultamitali voitais tuoda ihanaan Suomeen! Suomi forever =)!
Lämmin kiitos videosta. Olen suomalainen. Suomi Finland.
Hieno ja tärkeä video!
Thank You, This was Greatest Untold videos! Praise The Lord!
Thst was beautiful i love my country and i will du anything for finland and people of finland i also support our best friends and neighbours long live mighty finland🇫🇮♥️🇩🇪♥️🇪🇪♥️🇧🇻♥️🇩🇰♥️🇸🇪♥️🇳🇱♥️🇮🇸
SUOMI!! SUOMI!!
Btw. You are giving me and many others marvellous laughs so please keep entertaining us.
Kiitos!
Today marks the 82nd anniversary of the outbreak of the Winter War. The Winter War was a war between Finland and the Soviet Union from November 30, 1939 to March 13, 1940. The Soviet Union began the Winter War by attacking without a declaration of war, and the war ended 105 days later with the Moscow Peace Treaty. The League of Nations condemned the attack and resigned from the Soviet Union on December 14, 1939.
i am so proud to be a finn my grand father died 1939 and i never got to know him but i am so proud of him
Ty! If I remember right, this is a dvd review from Talvisodan katsaukset. I have "a lot of" dvd material about finnish wars... but yes I' m not a war addict :)
really cool.
Thanks, I have watched others Winterwar videos and comments of thesa has been like "Finland sucks" or such kind. You are exception and thanks to you for that. I think that finns who had fought against Russian on battlefield and on UA-cam will preciate that.
Man, this is glorious stuff!
The Finns who fought the Talvisota and Continuation War showed the world what a free, honest, hardworking people can do. I'm sure the ghost of Leonidas was watching over them, too.
Holy shit, dude. Rocks, trees and lakes - this is what fought and will continue to fight most of Finnish wars. That terrain is still unpassable for most of world armies.
Even tho my brain is made 101% from patriotism, towards my home, Finland, this boosts it to 202
Kiitos sotaveteraanit!
Truly touching video. Makes me respect the veterans who defended our fatherland....
Thanks you! As a Finn, I agree wholeheartedly.
@Cyberspine I agree the Finns to move on. As for the reason the Russian language virtually dominate Karelia is that I've read almost the entire population emigrated to free Finland. One account I read a couple of years ago is a farmer returning to his farm, the Finn soldiers asked him why he was there and he responded that he had burned his barn down during the Tavilsota, just as his father had, and his father's father so to leave nothing for the Russians. He was there just 'making sure'
The winter was actually much colder and snowier than was expected it to be.
Finlandia in the back makes this video 100 times better.
Tears came into my eyes esp. with the first pictures of the finnish nature...
wow 13 years ago
damn
Regards for very brave finnish nation ! We wish you survive and best of lack !
@Teleoceras Thank! At least someone still give Finland the honor it rigthfully deserves!
kiitos kiitos teilegi
Kyllahan nyt meita veteraaneja haukutahan, muttta tarkeempi asia on etta Suomi sailytti itsenaysyytensa vallan. Hyvä Suomi!
A striking resemblance is seen in Ukraine today. Sad to see history repeat itself. I dearly hope Ukraine will prevail in this unjust war.
Touching piece of history.
thank you.
Makes me glad Finland is still a thing.
Tears came into my eyes when I see how much my (=MY!) ppl has suffered...(anyway thank´s to everybody who fought for finnish freedom..including my fathersfather and mothersfather..)(I don´t like wars--but I am grateful to my ppl who defended themselves...)
Same here. Every single time with those old images, films and bits of actual historical narrative.
Me ollaan kärsitty kautta aikojen ja paljon. Mutta silti ollaan täällä! Eläköön isänmaa Suomi ja suomalaiset!
Where did you find this? I am history student but i had never seen this before.. very interesting video, thank you for posting!!!
@hanhi Exactly, I am pleased to see finally somebody had the stomach to come out from Hitlers shadow and say we Finnish people it was matter of life and death! Continuation War was our own struggle to get payback from USSR! We lost Karelia and maybe it will never given back to Finland but we Finnish people are damn proud what we achived in the battlefield!!
As you know... Finland is not one of the Scandinavian countrys... just you to know...
it kinda is
nordfyr1 a small part of Finlands northen areas is
Finland is nordic, but not scandinavian. Because scandinavian implies similar roots to the swedes. And we are a completely distinct people group from swedes, norwegians and them. Different language, culture etc.
2:24 Niin Suomalaisen kuulloinen aksentti ku olla ja voi :D
@Nissdavid
Really? :O!
that's amazing! :D
@Mainilanlaukaisija It's a pleasure to meet you, thanks for your insights. Save for the web it's difficult here in Oregon to get research materials other than the most general sort.
Hurrah for the Brave Finns !
We didnt get that help
Ruotsalaisilla oli merkittävä rooli talvisodassa. Talvisota on näistä kahdesta kunniallisempi sota, koska se oli puolustussota. Lisäksi talvisodassa suomalaiset olivat täysin yksin Venäjää vastaan. Siinä nähtiin, ketkä oikeasti ovat suomalaisten ystäviä.
Thanks to ALL who contributed so that Finland won the wars against USSR, both the winter war and contiuation war (WW2) - won in the sense that we kept our independence, earned in the WW1 war of 1917, and struggled for ever since. Als thanks to all who helped us out in any way.
Thomas / Swedish speakin Finn.
Finlan won!
Finland surrendered, we lost
this is one great film~!
long live finland~!
... only until bigger neighbor decides otherwise.
@@yurikozhokin8348 Russia is third world country, and will never be superpower again. By end of the century, it will be Muslim country.
@@molotovribbentrop2839 I see you pretty good at predicting future. In that case, can you tell the density of you next poop? Yeah, I did not think so.
@@yurikozhokin8348 It's known math. Russia is almost 15% Muslim already, and they have more children than Slavs.
@@molotovribbentrop2839 and so is the rest of the Europe. Duh.
''The true warrior does not care if he is called a beast or a dog, the main thing is winning''
@Mainilanlaukaisija Thank you, despite my studies thus far I was unclear if we lost Petsamo following the Winter War or the Continuation War. On another site, Free Karelia I think it's called, a couple of years ago I posted that Karelian effort could become expansive to include Petsamo despite they're not in the same region, but same effect to their theft
3:02
And now exactly the same thing in Ukraine. 😭
#StandWithUkraine
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:l
@artur2277 I love Estonia. :) I think of Estonia as Finland's greatest ally. :D
Happy independence day... from your neighbour... Onnea itsenäisyyspäivänä Suomi, terveisiä naapurista!
@Mainilanlaukaisija Is this the same Vilkuna of the Finnish Academy? These conversations enticed me to pick up J.H. Wuorinen's A History of Finland again from the library, in which he is mentioned.
Wartime propaganda is so silly.
Oh, but I have to actually be thankful to Soviet union of attacking Finland. If they hadn't attacked, my grandfather wouldn't have left Karelia and wouldn't have met my grandmother. So my dad wouldn't have been born and then of course I hadn't been born either... So thanks. But I still hate you for what you did, Stalin!
And if Finland hadn't had the opportunity to rough-up and humiliate the Red Army it s doubtful the Soviets would have been ready to take on Hitler.
erik reiman finland started the war? What?
@@Dni80 ruskies still think so? holy shiet
@@teuska351 holy shit i read the fucking comment wrong i tought that comment was from russian and i read that it says that i hate finland what they did imma gonna remove comments btw im from finland
@@teuska351 and im sorry it was 3 am at the time so i wouldnt think so muxh
@Janika6666 Are you from Hungary? That's very cool! :) Glad to hear from an Ugric neighbor!
@Mainilanlaukaisija thanks for naming the author, I'm going to see if any of his books have been translated. :)
Well we were underdog but we had few more tanks and planes than You claim. In the beginning of Winter War we had: 493 cannons, of which 73 were out-of-date guns but still usable. Coastline guns primarilly designed to be used against navy are not within these numbers. Planes:Fighters: 41 ready to get airborne, 15 under repairs. Bombers: 16 (!) ready to get airborne, 2 being repaired. Recoinnance-planes (usually out-of date fighters from 1920's) 57 ready-to-go and 14 under repairs.
Tanks: during the war we managed to get 13 Vickers to frontline. In addition we had 32 Renaults from 1919 and they were totally out-of date (even bullet of a rifle could penetrate its armour!) and were used as tractors...
So we had something but soviets had for example more than 2000 planes.
@Mainilanlaukaisija Ratz, it seems no english translation available. Although I'm familiar with the means Vilkuna did his research. When I began getting Ambetsbevis from Kokkola relating to my family I found it excellent that the extract included "cause of death" btw can anyone tell me the correct translation of "SLAG"?
For U know... This is been taught to every Finnishs citizen to pay yuor debt in time. Our People have a sustained econimic situation in under control. It is an honor to pay your debt in time
@NoddyShoulder I read a quote years ago realative; "whom questions the morality of the one that pulls you from the quicksand." After what happend to Lavtvia, Lithuania, and Estonia.
@justiakas I agree, perhaps more approapriate would've been Holst's Mars, the bringer of war, not only for it's title but the dramatics of the music
@ImperialGuard9001 I know that British PM Chamberlain entered into an agreement to help Poland that they failed to back up, Whom in America made this agreement with Poland and the Baltic? I would like to know and understand your resources. Please list them.
Respect to all Finnish heroes. It was no easy of "Imperium of Evil" to force Finland to surrender.
as you can see... he didnt die in vain, he died a hero's death, the soldiers best way to die and we never forget the sacrifices what they did for freedom!
@enizbib
I can only imagine. I have friends from Finland who have told me that, but I would've done it anyway. No matter if I had to fight the invader with my bare hands, there's nothing more beautiful than freedom.
The feeling is mutual.
Does that message have a point, or was it just to show me some quote that has nothing to do with this conversation?
My grand fathers brother died winter wars last days 8.3.1940, when bunker gets direct hit by a bomb. 11 finnish soldier died... Only pocket watch saved unbroken in my his uniform. War end 13.3.1940.
Respect to Finns! .. re "little military help".. yes allies were slow to react but as of Jan 1940 strong Expeditionary Force consisting of British/French/Polish troops started to be formed .. soviets aware of that and perhaps it was one of the factors giving them incentive to reach settlement asap .. it's ironic how close Germans and soviets cooperated at that time, Germany intercepting Italian arms shipment (35modern fighters and 100000 rifles) and not allowing Hungarian volunteers to transit.
can you even imagine that the external trade per cent between the brits and Finland was about 60 before the wars, and the soviet barely 1 per cent...
Communists have been trying to strangle economically throughout history. That is why the USSR was not affected by the Great Depression.
It was one of the things they wanted to come, it was the frenchmen who really wanted to help finnish but the english men were after the mines mostly...
You have failed. I just checked your profile and found this:
Country: United States
by the way, 70 is spelled seitsemänkymmentä, not seitsemankymmenta (notice the "ä" letters)
@Teleoceras My Grandpa was in the Winter War,Lapland War and a Refugee from Russia when they took his home after from Finland.
@Mainilanlaukaisija, For those who doesnt know. Sweden was not neutral during winter war, Sweden declared itself non-belligerent. Sweden sent 1/3 of the arms in southern Sweden to Finland. The biggest volunteer help from one nation to another in the history, was the volunteers from Sweden (didnt see much action though), most money gathered in the history from one nation to another, and so on. The allies intent was never to assist Finland but merely secure Narvik and Kiruna.
To clear why I put this on my favorites: About America helping Finland (?)...to that I will not comment because my comment and thinking is question of feelings...(I only think of the lost of lives etc..who was friend with whom is not MY main interest..) (But OF COURSE thank´s to who ever helped my country= Suomi)
@Raisionpulsu That's very true. I live in America, and I'm a bit ashamed that we were so cowardly as not to help Finland after it proved to be an honorable ally.
My last name is Kautiainen. I'm Finnish. You can hear it in my youtube piano videos, where I say, "Hi, this is Sierra Kautiainen, and I'm going to play..."
I'm fourteen years old- of course I've never been to Finland. I'm planning on living there someday.
I'm currently teaching myself the language. Generalizations are dangerous...
Well done Suomi!
@Adinax86
Where did you get the number that there were 10 000 Estonians against Finland? This is huge question for me. Estonians were considered to be untrustworthy, and only saw battle at the end phase of war, where they were mostly against Estonian Waffen SS and Germans. It was huge embarassment when many Estonians ran over to German side.