The review that I think would help most people decide if the Paper Pro is for them or not, would be a review of workflows and software functionality. Perhaps a comparison with say Goodnotes and notability, for use cases like research (ie annotation of books and papers, and collection of ideas) or sketching (ie for designers, creatives, etc) or reading (vs say Kindle or other einks). It might be of interest to your viewers considering what blend of devices and workflow make sense for their needs, but I realise it's not a strict tech-review type of video.
Excellent video format and editing. So much information packed into that 24 minutes with no fluff. Just discovered your channel, but I would love to see you cover eink devices more going forward.
Why is nobody talking about the battery life… of the stylus?! One of the things I love about the rM2 stylus is the fact that, being passive, I can play with it as a fidget toy even while doing other things than writing down my notes and even if I then just leave it lying on the desk rather than attached to the device, the only problem is the risk that I might lose it (never happened). What I don’t have to worry about is whether it will work when I do pick it up again to take some notes. This is one reason the Apple Pencil was a complete fail (for me). So, how long does the stylus last from full charge? And, if it is dead, what are the charging characteristics? (i.e. time to 20%, 50%, 80% full?) (I have a Paper Pro with Marker+ on order so may just have to find out for myself in a few days)
Exactly. You won't notice the pen running out of juice until you do. EMR markers don't have this problem. I could leave my LAMY on the desk and it will always work.
I use an ipad with apple pencil. I've never seen one go dry, but I haven't written nearly as much as I do on my RM2. Having it charge whenever it is attached always renders my apple pencil at 98%.. and if I leave it off the magnetic mount, I haven't seen it go down significantly. Hopefully the RMPP stylus has similar power saving when it is not being used.
One thing I’d love to know because I can’t find information on it ANYWHERE. How do annotations on epubs and PDFs work? Is it just simply being able to write handwritten notes on the page itself or can you also make handwritten comments on selected text? Does it have anything similar to the digest feature on the Supernote? I often have to read long books and it’s just a better way to organise my commentaries on it. I can’t live without this feature and it seems only Supernote does it.
You can write anywhere You want on epubs and PDFs. I'm not sure what happens when You change the font size in epubs, but I'd expect it would get misaligned, because I'm pretty sure there is no real connection between the original content and handwritten notes. You can also add note pages to files (additional, fully white pages). As for the digest feature, there isn't such thing on the Remarkable.
A further thought on the Paper Pro... the reMarkable 2 bogs down with larger documents with lots of annotation, and the "go to" function can be quite laggy in such a situation making it tedious to use. The Paper Pro has a faster processor, more RAM, and faster screen refresh - all of which will make a document annotation workflow much more user friendly. But indexing will be the main friction still.
Forgot to mention tags: I use tags extensively to find my notes and thoughts on themes and topics. You can tag a whole document, or just a page within a document. Tags appear below icons in the thumbnail scrolling mode, and tags can be searched for. Creative use of tags is possible for your use case, eg month tags, place tags, and other memory-joggers.
I wrote a reply but it has disappeared... in summary, Goodnotes on iPad has the functionality to create "outlines" by adding any page to an outline that helps find and organise annotated notes. reMarkable software has no such thing. I have hundreds of research papers and books on my reMarkable 2, and annotate extensively. Finding annotations requires a manual index work-around, but creating an index page and writing or typing in page numbers. It works if you create the index as page 1 (or within the first few pages, if you want to preserve a book cover say as the thumbnail image), and then use the "go to" page number function to return to those indexed notes. Annotations can be made in two ways: on the page of a pdf or epub, or by adding a blank page and making notes there. The pdf annotations can't be converted to text with OCR handwriting recognition, but the handwriting on added pages can. You can also type annotations if you have the type folio, as I do. I don't tend to do this, as I prefer to hand write as I read. But I often will pause reading, flip open the keyboard, and jot down some thoughts on an added page, or perhaps make a mind map. You can also export your annotations in various formats. On the Paper Pro versus reMarkable 2: large pdfs or books with lots of annotation will bog down on the reMarkable 2. The new Paper Pro has faster processor, more RAM, bigger memory (which will become a problem on the rM2 if you have hundreds of research papers and books with annotations) and faster refresh rate - all of which will reduce friction for your use case.
Thank you for the update. Would love to see more. I have received the RPP and love it for I need colors while I teach from it. It helps me keep my thoughts in order using different highlights. One thing I am curious about is the syncing between the RM2 which I have and the RPP. I would like to keep both but eventually will run into the RM2 running out of space with only 8gb storage compared to the 64gb of the RPP. Again, thanks for the updated review.
I am waiting for a full review. i havent decided yet… 😂 i have the RM2.. the added color and pen for highlighting of the RMpro is a bigg plus for me because that really helps in my recall. 😊.
Good review as I have a much better feel for the Paper Pro as I await to receive mine. I do wonder what you thought of the front light, a feature that most interests me for writing notes in less than ideal lighted rooms. I have read that it is a bit dim. Is that how you feel or does it provide enough light to be able to take notes in all ambient light situations?
It was a really high quality Q&A! I loved the way you answered the questions and your map of the comments with your notes (btw, what application/website did you use?) So yeah, I would love to see a full review of it. I already know everything about this device and already own a Note Air 3C, but I love this technology and seeing the B-roll shots of the tablet showing color content. A fun thing to see would be a closeup of the e-ink particles, and its dithering system it uses to render shades of color. Up close it's so much different than a Kaleido device. Thank you again for this this quality video!
Thanks for the kind and thoughtful comment. The Note Air 3C is awesome, I never tested it but a friend has it and loves it, and It makes my Tab Ultra C look like a chonk! Noted, will endeavour to get a review recorded. Also, the software is Mindnode for Mac. Have a great day! Basil
@@tech_edit my main gripe with my 3C is that it burns through the battery in one day of work, and that kinda worries me about the state of the battery in a year or two. That's why I'm already eyeing alternatives haha. As I said, I love seeing B-roll shots of the display of the Paper Pro because I love the tech, but it's not strictly necessary for me. I think I already know everything about this device because I'm slightly obsessed about it. But if you were already planning on doing it, I would love to watch it!
Thanks this helped me to realize that the bigger Tab X is more ideal for music sheet, reading pdfs, and Epub files... Anyone know if Boox are planning on releasing a colour version soon ?
Thanks for the Q&A! Is the contrast for black and white content (e.g. a monochrome PDF, a note in black and white only) worse in the Paper Pro than in the rM2?
Though personally, I'm finding a lot of PDFs are actually easier to read on the Paper Pro if you switch the contrast filter to text (and of course navigating through a larger PDF is considerably quicker!).
What are the accessibility features like? As historically they’re pretty non existent on e-ink devices compared to regular tablets, even simple things like UI text scaling is typically limited to 'small' and 'smaller'.
From the press release, ReMarkable seems to be switching to a different software rollout model for the Paper Pro. Specifically, they're allowing you to root the device much more easily. I bet there'll be a decent hacking scene very soon.
Thank you for the video, how long does it take for the device to sync with the cloud? for example if i wanna transfer a pdf from my macbook to the remarkable
I don't have this device, but I have seen it demoed and it took only a few seconds. It depend of course of the file size and internet connection speed. It is one of the reason I want to buy this device, that is hardly mentioned. It seems to sync seamlessly, other tablet solutions don't offer (more steps). Let's say you received a form you need to fill in, that you're received on your email. You drag the file to the Remarkable app on your phone/iPad or PC/Mac and it is instantly there on the Remarkable to be used.
I have one more question: In my opinion, the primary (and perhaps only) advantage of devices like the Remarkable over actual paper is their searchability. I currently use the Boox Note Air, but I find searching through handwritten notes to be excruciatingly slow, especially when there are a lot of notes. It seems the device doesn’t create a searchable index in the background, nor does it save the index generated after a previous search. How quick is the search functionality on the Remarkable Pro?
Thank you for the video answering those questions. One thing that I am maybe missing in many videos about the Remarkable Paper Pro is the emphasis on encrypted data. The website mentions that the newer device has encrypted on-device data. However, the Remarkable 2 makes no such claims. What are your thoughts and are there any other eink devices that have on device encryption for the data storage so that they require a passcode to decrypt?
Yes, you tap the page icon in the bottom left, select New Note Page, and you've got a blank page to write on. Super-handy and I wish I'd mentioned it, thanks for the question! This works across ePUBs and PDFs. Basil
The real proof of the pudding is if you are using this device daily in a months time when the review dust has settled. I don’t think we need a full review but an update on usage would be interesting.
Some upgrades, some downgrades, but regardless insane price. rM2 was already too expensive, probably will never afford/justify it. Fingerprint scanner is overkill...
Aucune hésitation pour moi c'est boox remarkable est un systeme bien trop fermé Tout ce que je reproche à remarkable pro 1-il faut charger le stylet et mon autre stylet le stardler digital jumbo noris pas compatible 2-nativement les note ne sont pas dans google drive sinon c'est 3 euros par mois hors taxe pour le cloud remarkable 3-impossible d'avoir les applications de lecture kindle/kobo/vivlio/play livres donc pas de synchro ni d'achat possible 4- pas mes journaux en ligne application (cafeyn) 5-(a priori ) dans la prise de note je n'ai pas vu de mise en forme là sur la boox si je maintiens un rond un carré une ligne etc. ça fait une forme clean. 6-(a priori) on peut envoyer des mails et il faut un compte connect pour cela ....mais pas en recevoir !!! 7- pas de port sd 8-pas de lecteur d'empreinte
Quid de l'accès a onenote/task ?
-je n'ai pas su trouvé, si je branche à mon pc si c'est vu comme un disque externe et que je peux sauvegarder ou synchroniser les documents comme avec ma boox ? -je n'ai rien vu sur l'audio avec la boox je peux enregistrer/écouter des memo /écouter de la musique/des livres audio/ brancher un casque Bluetooth
Thanks for the shout out, Basil! Great video with lots of useful answers to common questions!
No worries Kit, appreciate all your efforts too. B
The review that I think would help most people decide if the Paper Pro is for them or not, would be a review of workflows and software functionality. Perhaps a comparison with say Goodnotes and notability, for use cases like research (ie annotation of books and papers, and collection of ideas) or sketching (ie for designers, creatives, etc) or reading (vs say Kindle or other einks). It might be of interest to your viewers considering what blend of devices and workflow make sense for their needs, but I realise it's not a strict tech-review type of video.
Excellent video format and editing. So much information packed into that 24 minutes with no fluff. Just discovered your channel, but I would love to see you cover eink devices more going forward.
Why is nobody talking about the battery life… of the stylus?! One of the things I love about the rM2 stylus is the fact that, being passive, I can play with it as a fidget toy even while doing other things than writing down my notes and even if I then just leave it lying on the desk rather than attached to the device, the only problem is the risk that I might lose it (never happened). What I don’t have to worry about is whether it will work when I do pick it up again to take some notes.
This is one reason the Apple Pencil was a complete fail (for me).
So, how long does the stylus last from full charge? And, if it is dead, what are the charging characteristics? (i.e. time to 20%, 50%, 80% full?)
(I have a Paper Pro with Marker+ on order so may just have to find out for myself in a few days)
Exactly. You won't notice the pen running out of juice until you do. EMR markers don't have this problem. I could leave my LAMY on the desk and it will always work.
idk exact details but I remember seeing somewhere that 5 mins charging will last an hour of use.
I use an ipad with apple pencil. I've never seen one go dry, but I haven't written nearly as much as I do on my RM2. Having it charge whenever it is attached always renders my apple pencil at 98%.. and if I leave it off the magnetic mount, I haven't seen it go down significantly. Hopefully the RMPP stylus has similar power saving when it is not being used.
Incidentally, the apple pencil GenII works with the RMPP. It would be interesting to know if it will charge when attached..?
Why would you have so much against attaching the marker to the device when not using it rather than leaving it on the desk? Sounds like a you problem
Can’t wait for Supernote to get color like this, I don’t f with a subscription just to be able to properly use an already expensive e-ink tablet.
Not sure why people disliked the previous video, I thought it was great. Thanks for the insights and well-balanced review, really enjoyed the series.
I've loved the idea of these tablets for a while, so thanks for the comparisons especially!
One thing I’d love to know because I can’t find information on it ANYWHERE.
How do annotations on epubs and PDFs work? Is it just simply being able to write handwritten notes on the page itself or can you also make handwritten comments on selected text? Does it have anything similar to the digest feature on the Supernote?
I often have to read long books and it’s just a better way to organise my commentaries on it. I can’t live without this feature and it seems only Supernote does it.
You can write anywhere You want on epubs and PDFs. I'm not sure what happens when You change the font size in epubs, but I'd expect it would get misaligned, because I'm pretty sure there is no real connection between the original content and handwritten notes. You can also add note pages to files (additional, fully white pages). As for the digest feature, there isn't such thing on the Remarkable.
A further thought on the Paper Pro... the reMarkable 2 bogs down with larger documents with lots of annotation, and the "go to" function can be quite laggy in such a situation making it tedious to use. The Paper Pro has a faster processor, more RAM, and faster screen refresh - all of which will make a document annotation workflow much more user friendly. But indexing will be the main friction still.
Forgot to mention tags: I use tags extensively to find my notes and thoughts on themes and topics. You can tag a whole document, or just a page within a document. Tags appear below icons in the thumbnail scrolling mode, and tags can be searched for. Creative use of tags is possible for your use case, eg month tags, place tags, and other memory-joggers.
I wrote a reply but it has disappeared... in summary, Goodnotes on iPad has the functionality to create "outlines" by adding any page to an outline that helps find and organise annotated notes. reMarkable software has no such thing. I have hundreds of research papers and books on my reMarkable 2, and annotate extensively. Finding annotations requires a manual index work-around, but creating an index page and writing or typing in page numbers. It works if you create the index as page 1 (or within the first few pages, if you want to preserve a book cover say as the thumbnail image), and then use the "go to" page number function to return to those indexed notes.
Annotations can be made in two ways: on the page of a pdf or epub, or by adding a blank page and making notes there. The pdf annotations can't be converted to text with OCR handwriting recognition, but the handwriting on added pages can.
You can also type annotations if you have the type folio, as I do. I don't tend to do this, as I prefer to hand write as I read. But I often will pause reading, flip open the keyboard, and jot down some thoughts on an added page, or perhaps make a mind map.
You can also export your annotations in various formats.
On the Paper Pro versus reMarkable 2: large pdfs or books with lots of annotation will bog down on the reMarkable 2. The new Paper Pro has faster processor, more RAM, bigger memory (which will become a problem on the rM2 if you have hundreds of research papers and books with annotations) and faster refresh rate - all of which will reduce friction for your use case.
Thanks for the information guys. It’s confirmed definitively that this is not a product suitable for my specific needs.
Thank you for the update. Would love to see more. I have received the RPP and love it for I need colors while I teach from it. It helps me keep my thoughts in order using different highlights. One thing I am curious about is the syncing between the RM2 which I have and the RPP. I would like to keep both but eventually will run into the RM2 running out of space with only 8gb storage compared to the 64gb of the RPP. Again, thanks for the updated review.
I am waiting for a full review. i havent decided yet… 😂 i have the RM2.. the added color and pen for highlighting of the RMpro is a bigg plus for me because that really helps in my recall. 😊.
Good review as I have a much better feel for the Paper Pro as I await to receive mine. I do wonder what you thought of the front light, a feature that most interests me for writing notes in less than ideal lighted rooms. I have read that it is a bit dim. Is that how you feel or does it provide enough light to be able to take notes in all ambient light situations?
Can you print directly from the reMarkable Pro like you can with an iPad?
It was a really high quality Q&A! I loved the way you answered the questions and your map of the comments with your notes (btw, what application/website did you use?)
So yeah, I would love to see a full review of it. I already know everything about this device and already own a Note Air 3C, but I love this technology and seeing the B-roll shots of the tablet showing color content.
A fun thing to see would be a closeup of the e-ink particles, and its dithering system it uses to render shades of color. Up close it's so much different than a Kaleido device.
Thank you again for this this quality video!
Thanks for the kind and thoughtful comment. The Note Air 3C is awesome, I never tested it but a friend has it and loves it, and It makes my Tab Ultra C look like a chonk! Noted, will endeavour to get a review recorded. Also, the software is Mindnode for Mac. Have a great day! Basil
@@tech_edit my main gripe with my 3C is that it burns through the battery in one day of work, and that kinda worries me about the state of the battery in a year or two. That's why I'm already eyeing alternatives haha.
As I said, I love seeing B-roll shots of the display of the Paper Pro because I love the tech, but it's not strictly necessary for me. I think I already know everything about this device because I'm slightly obsessed about it.
But if you were already planning on doing it, I would love to watch it!
Thanks this helped me to realize that the bigger Tab X is more ideal for music sheet, reading pdfs, and Epub files... Anyone know if Boox are planning on releasing a colour version soon ?
Hi I'm curious to know if it has a dictionary like a kindle?
Thanks for the Q&A! Is the contrast for black and white content (e.g. a monochrome PDF, a note in black and white only) worse in the Paper Pro than in the rM2?
Yes, the R2 wins out for B&W.
Though personally, I'm finding a lot of PDFs are actually easier to read on the Paper Pro if you switch the contrast filter to text (and of course navigating through a larger PDF is considerably quicker!).
Through the offline USB Web Interface is there a way to export in SVG?
Thank you for a wide ranging mini review.
I wonder if the flickering is something they can improve with software over time, or a fundamental limitation
This is the best video ive found on this device and ive been desperately searching for a good one for soo long. Thank you sooo much.
@@Arnoldismouldy thank you for the kind words 🙏
MaaaaaGnificent Breakdown!
Please consider something like this for the DC-1 (daylight computer)
What are the accessibility features like? As historically they’re pretty non existent on e-ink devices compared to regular tablets, even simple things like UI text scaling is typically limited to 'small' and 'smaller'.
From the press release, ReMarkable seems to be switching to a different software rollout model for the Paper Pro. Specifically, they're allowing you to root the device much more easily. I bet there'll be a decent hacking scene very soon.
Thank you for the video, how long does it take for the device to sync with the cloud? for example if i wanna transfer a pdf from my macbook to the remarkable
I don't have this device, but I have seen it demoed and it took only a few seconds. It depend of course of the file size and internet connection speed. It is one of the reason I want to buy this device, that is hardly mentioned. It seems to sync seamlessly, other tablet solutions don't offer (more steps). Let's say you received a form you need to fill in, that you're received on your email. You drag the file to the Remarkable app on your phone/iPad or PC/Mac and it is instantly there on the Remarkable to be used.
Yep, mere moments. Syncing is super quick.
Almost instant
Question: which tool you have showcased on the video, when reading the comments ? (Looks nice)
Thanks for the question, that's mindnode, an app for MacOS, iOS and iPadOS.
I have one more question: In my opinion, the primary (and perhaps only) advantage of devices like the Remarkable over actual paper is their searchability. I currently use the Boox Note Air, but I find searching through handwritten notes to be excruciatingly slow, especially when there are a lot of notes. It seems the device doesn’t create a searchable index in the background, nor does it save the index generated after a previous search.
How quick is the search functionality on the Remarkable Pro?
You can add "tags/keywords" on certain pages. Then when you search those pages will show up. But you have to remember to add them.
any strange sound on rm pp when you switch the pages ?
definitely waiting for the iPad Mini 7 next month
Thank you for the video answering those questions. One thing that I am maybe missing in many videos about the Remarkable Paper Pro is the emphasis on encrypted data. The website mentions that the newer device has encrypted on-device data. However, the Remarkable 2 makes no such claims. What are your thoughts and are there any other eink devices that have on device encryption for the data storage so that they require a passcode to decrypt?
Excellent update to your Remarkable Paper Pro.
excellent! thank for info about typing mode battery life
Thanks to reMarkable for clarifying in so much detail (so nice to get something more than a marketing line from the PR team).
Can you add more space for notes embedded in a pdf? Like add another blank page or stickies wherever you need?
Yes, you tap the page icon in the bottom left, select New Note Page, and you've got a blank page to write on. Super-handy and I wish I'd mentioned it, thanks for the question! This works across ePUBs and PDFs. Basil
@@tech_edit That's awesome!
Does type folio also have a battery which gets charged when connected?
@@prakash.vishwakarma no, it is powered directly by the tablet.
Phenomenal balanced review
How thick does the Paper Pro feel compared to the RM2?
Just slightly thicker, it's bulkier because of the tablet's footprint rather than the thickness. Hope that helps! Basil
The real proof of the pudding is if you are using this device daily in a months time when the review dust has settled.
I don’t think we need a full review but an update on usage would be interesting.
Is there a way to turn off the feature of having the passcode? I’ve never owned a remarkable….
Yep, it's easy to turn off.
What software are you using for those mind maps ?
Mindnode for Mac and iPad
Great Video, thank you!
Excellent review. Very useful, thanks.
@2:40 why compare type folio to book folio? unfair no?
Neither fair nor unfair, surely... the guy just wants to know.
It's definitely a sharp e-ink tablet.
does it have a dark reader mode?
No
can i use twitter on the paper pro?
No you can't. It doesn't support this party apps.
Some upgrades, some downgrades, but regardless insane price. rM2 was already too expensive, probably will never afford/justify it.
Fingerprint scanner is overkill...
19:40 officially not. But it's still linux device!
The flickering with every change is crazy
Does it have split screen?
Nope
Only the Boox
If you by another remarkable 😂
The flickering hurts my eyes
Vow this is soooo slow. I mean that refresh rate is ridiculous for that amount of money.
Aucune hésitation pour moi c'est boox remarkable est un systeme bien trop fermé
Tout ce que je reproche à remarkable pro
1-il faut charger le stylet et mon autre stylet le stardler digital jumbo noris pas compatible
2-nativement les note ne sont pas dans google drive sinon c'est 3 euros par mois hors taxe pour le cloud remarkable
3-impossible d'avoir les applications de lecture kindle/kobo/vivlio/play livres donc pas de synchro ni d'achat possible
4- pas mes journaux en ligne application (cafeyn)
5-(a priori ) dans la prise de note je n'ai pas vu de mise en forme là sur la boox si je maintiens un rond un carré une ligne etc. ça fait une forme clean.
6-(a priori) on peut envoyer des mails et il faut un compte connect pour cela ....mais pas en recevoir !!!
7- pas de port sd
8-pas de lecteur d'empreinte
Quid de l'accès a onenote/task ?
-je n'ai pas su trouvé, si je branche à mon pc si c'est vu comme un disque externe et que je peux sauvegarder ou synchroniser les documents comme avec ma boox ?
-je n'ai rien vu sur l'audio avec la boox je peux enregistrer/écouter des memo /écouter de la musique/des livres audio/ brancher un casque Bluetooth
What a disappointment the new remarkable i guess ill have to wait another 5 years for 300dpi screen lol
whats with the bad review skills on youtube? People can't actually just show the darn products properly.
THE ADS ARE ATROCIOUS
i think i'm going to spend $50 a buy nice big sketch paper and top-notch color pencils and markers and just using a NERF scanner for importing
the rMPP pen is the the worst solution in the world.
Feel and responsiveness is great though 😆
Almost only advertising, what a pity...
The most amazing thing I learned is grown men are still reading comics... stunned!!