@@skyisblue4234 of course it's ok daily drive it! Be sure to maintain it as well as you can to maximize its life and your enjoyment. As for keeping it from getting stolen, you may want to consider an alarm system, secure storage, or rebadging it as a V6 Camaro
@@skyisblue4234 I'm sorry, I was just making a joke about rebadging it. If you did rebadge a 442, you wouldn't get in trouble with any authoritative bodies. You might upset a few 442 fans however..
The 1970 w-30 442 was the Pinnacle of the Oldsmobile Cutlass. The performance; both engine and handling, was above nearly every car in its class for that time period. Most notably is the unique exhaust rumble, akin to music 🎶
There is no doubt the W30 package produced over 400 horsepower. This car is a beast on the road and takes skill to drive properly. This car still flies under the radar of many classic muscle car wannabe owners. It rivals John Delorean’s baby, the ‘69 Pontiac Grand Prix SJ in both styling and performance.
Great video. ! Love Oldsmobiles, especially 442's. I had a 73 442, cranberry red met., white stripes, dk.red interior with wet look swivel buckets, air conditioning, 455 Hurst 4 speed, 3.42 limited slip dif.,crank windows. Loved it. , but sold it. Now I wish I had it back.! It was fast for it's size & year. NHRA rated it at 330 h.p . Sure had a nice rumble to it. !
Actually they were 250 hp by that time, the compression was way down, and the heads were not the best flowing, but they still made good torque. Been an Olds guy most of my life.
@@Musclecar1972 I heard that they were rated low h.p. for insurance reasons ( lower rates ) . They had to be higher h.power.... mine ran mid to high 15's in the quarter mile@ almost 90 ! Not bad for a 4200 lb car!
@@kevinsnyder4425 Kevin, torque is what moves you down the road, not HP, the Olds big block has always been a torque beast, so that’s what got you those numbers, they were not underrated hp wise, my W-30 in 1972 was rated at 300 hp. I have owned it since new, but the torque was close to 500 lb ft, that was with a different better flowing head than the 73, I’m not insulting your car, just stating what I know to be true, even with these disadvantages, I know your car felt powerful in the seat of the pants, torque will do that, HP numbers mean squat, without the torque to go with it, I’m very sure yours was a pleasure to drive. 👍👍👍👍👍 when you are ready, go looking for another, before they get outta hand price wise, the 73 and up are starting to come around, and finding a 4 speed big block won’t get easier as time goes on.
@@Musclecar1972 thanks Kurt ! I found out torque was high on those - I looked up the stats on my year, and it also said h.p. was 270 ! I think compression was maybe 8.5 to 1 ? I'm an Olds nut too, I've had 5 - not all 442's, mostly Cutlass Supreme cars. ! Thanks for replying. !
@@kevinsnyder4425 Yes, it was, be glad you didn’t have a 403, they were 7.8:1, lol but advertised as 8.1, the combustion chambers in the heads were huge, I owned a few of those as well, good motor with a head swap, and a few mods, even though it was a small block. Had a 1970 W-31 with the 350, was a nasty little motor, very quick, would actually beat a big block in the 1/8 th mile. I had a 1968 W-30, with a stroker, was 513 cu in. Motor was actually built by Joe Mondello, it was a real handful, and the list goes on, had quite a few more down through the years.
"Sale Proof" is probably the last description I would apply to these cars. My God, musclecar prices are through the roof. I think I paid about $2500 for my used 70 W-30 back in 1978. They are six fiqure cars now.
Love it. I have my first car i bought out of high school;1969 Cutlass 2 dr sedan. Very few survive . most people liked hard top. I love sedans. Each to their own. I enjoy meeting and sharing details and admiration at Oldsmobile club shows in Canada and the US. Thanks for a great show and review
All cutlasses had plastic fender wells, the red was W30 only, black was standard. This 1970 seems to have wrong seat pattern, looks to be a 71. I own a original 70 442 W30 convert since 1978 and love it. Only drove mine about 800 miles total since I purchased it 43 years ago, it mainly sits in garage gathering dust. Has 52k on it.
I have a 1972 W30 and I’ve got to say it’s such a pleasure to drive. I thought this was a well thought out and comprehensive video on the model. Good job mate, keep up the good work!
But how can you even think that way about the car? Don't you know what that sounds like? You even knew what it was before you said it? What a disgrace to the brand name of such an iconic car? But thanks for the video
If that cover on the differential is a real W 27 it's an unobtainable option and no mention of it? Personally, I don't know why anyone would order a 442 with an automatic but that's just me.
@Sale Proof Car Reviews How expensive is gas on average for this car? Also are parts for this car in abundance at the moment or should I go for a different classic?
I couldn't tell you exactly how expensive gas would be as I haven't owned this car. Parts I would presume are relatively abundant, there are still many 442s on the road and the car has a sizable following
This car is a tribute clone it is not a w30. The drivers fender and hood is off another car . The trumpet exhaust tips are from pypes . The interior is from 2 separate cars .
In my opinion the rear trunk spoiler wasn’t a good looking option, it didn’t fit the lines of the car, the only car of that era that actually had a good looking spoiler in my opinion was the 1969 GTO Judge, it followed the lines of the car.
Far too many cars have had the rear spoilers added on later, especially 69-70 Mustang fastbacks. Generally, we prefer the look of the cars without the extra clutter.
@@hiitsstillme Absolutely, my point exactly.👍 I have a 1972 W-30 442 in my shop, ordered it brand new in 1972 didn’t like the trunk spoiler then, still don’t. Just finishing a frame off restoration on it, the body man tried to talk me into one, we had a slight disagreement! LOL 😂 I prevailed! 👍👍👍😉
So I own a 68 which came with the 455 In it you said about 1400 were made in 1968 So my question is how would you be able to research if mine was one of those 1400.
It's difficult to tell just by VIN alone if yours is indeed a Hurst/Olds from 1968, here are some other signs you can look for: You would have to see if your car came with the 455 cubic inch engine (there were a couple smaller engines available that year as well). Your car would have to be silver on black (that was the Hurst/Olds color for 1968). Your car would have to have the Hurst/Olds badges. Your car would have walnut wood inlays. Your car would have the Hurst branded shifter.
In 1968, only the Hurst equipped Olds models had the 455. There was a corporate restriction across GM limiting midsize vehicles to 400 cubic inch Max. Oldsmobile got around it by allowing Hurst to upfit it with a separate performance package which included the 455. It should be noted in the 68 model year the Hurst equip 455 was underrated at 390 horsepower. There are Dyno tests here on UA-cam that show rebuilt stock Hurst 455 motors from that year 68' attaining well north of 400 horsepower and 525 foot pounds of torque.
@metcalf22 64 was the only year it actually stood for something. Auto transmission was available in 65 on a 442 so it meant pretty much whatever you car had then. 400ci , 4barrel + 2doors
@@Powell_OBonez 64’ was the first year and the only year that ever represented “four-speed”, like the man explains. It’s on the second page of the 65’ owners manual too.
This car is a clone,not a real w-30. regular 442's had plastic wheelwells,as well. the W-25 hood is actually heavier than a regular 442 hood. you could also get the w-25 hood on a regular Cutlass or 442 from 70 to 72 any Cutlass/442 could be orderred with bucket seats,not a big deal. '70 W30's have historically sold for more money than any 68 or 69 Hurst Olds. a 100 point 70 w30 would sell for around 80-100k down to 20k for resto projects.
A concourse correct 70 W30 4 speed in the right color combo sells for much more than $100 grand these days not to mention more if equipped with a W-27.
@@brentnagy5913 agreed if you go to auctions.there was a 100 point 71 w30 for sale for 70k,didnt sell so the owner took it to mecum and got 110k for it LOL__ua-cam.com/video/n1WQ2gdPrq8/v-deo.html
Ok, I've read enough... sounds like you guys are the people to ask because so far I haven't found what I'm looking for. Am I making stuff up in my head? Was there ever a "W-41" option for any of these runs of Oldsmobile 442's? No I'm not talking about the Cutlass Calais 442 in the early 90's and I'm not confusing it with the spray lubricant trademarked as WD-40. I'm talking about a w 41 option in the late 60's or 70's. Was that a convertible option or something like that? Or, was it extra go fast goodies from the Hurst outfit? I remember Motor Trend writing about the "lost connection to the heritage of the w41 option in the (then recent) 1990-91 model olds 442"... I could me making it allup because now all I can find is a w 30 option being available in the 70's... Maybe there was a w 41 option in the mid 80's?
@@dennisgreiwe2078 You're probably meaning F-41, a performance suspension option.no 442 from that era had a w-41 option.There was a w-34 for Toronado GT engine.All 80's G bodies and B bodies had a 307 or a V-6.
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@Sale Proof Car Reviews I'm 18 I want to buy this type of car. Will it be ok to daily drive it and how do I keep it from being stolen?
@@skyisblue4234 of course it's ok daily drive it! Be sure to maintain it as well as you can to maximize its life and your enjoyment. As for keeping it from getting stolen, you may want to consider an alarm system, secure storage, or rebadging it as a V6 Camaro
@@SaleProofCarReviews I won't get in trouble with the DMV or anyone if I rebadge it right?
@@skyisblue4234 I'm sorry, I was just making a joke about rebadging it. If you did rebadge a 442, you wouldn't get in trouble with any authoritative bodies. You might upset a few 442 fans however..
Some one tries to buy my Cutlass every time I get it out.
The 1970 w-30 442 was the Pinnacle of the Oldsmobile Cutlass. The performance; both engine and handling, was above nearly every car in its class for that time period. Most notably is the unique exhaust rumble, akin to music 🎶
There is no doubt the W30 package produced over 400 horsepower. This car is a beast on the road and takes skill to drive properly. This car still flies under the radar of many classic muscle car wannabe owners. It rivals John Delorean’s baby, the ‘69 Pontiac Grand Prix SJ in both styling and performance.
I'm not even a huge muscle car kinda guy but this car just does it for me. The sound, the stripes...Exquisite!
This one was an absolute beaut!
I know you don't like muscle cars as much as others, but you ought to consider a C4 Corvette
a friend has a 70 w30. He bought it new and still owns it. Still looked new last time he uncovered it.
That's rare! A 50+ year owned original owner car
Spoiler or not? Genuinely curious.
@@lesliehorwinkle no spoiler. 2 door post. not a hardtop, no AC, Black interior, automatic.
I had a 74, 76 & 77. Wish these things would come back 😊 I only used the premium leaded gas in the 74.
Great video. ! Love Oldsmobiles, especially 442's. I had a 73 442, cranberry red met., white stripes, dk.red interior with wet look swivel buckets, air conditioning, 455 Hurst 4 speed, 3.42 limited slip dif.,crank windows. Loved it. , but sold it. Now I wish I had it back.! It was fast for it's size & year. NHRA rated it at 330 h.p . Sure had a nice rumble to it. !
Actually they were 250 hp by that time, the compression was way down, and the heads were not the best flowing, but they still made good torque. Been an Olds guy most of my life.
@@Musclecar1972 I heard that they were rated low h.p. for insurance reasons ( lower rates ) . They had to be higher h.power.... mine ran mid to high 15's in the quarter mile@ almost 90 ! Not bad for a 4200 lb car!
@@kevinsnyder4425 Kevin, torque is what moves you down the road, not HP, the Olds big block has always been a torque beast, so that’s what got you those numbers, they were not underrated hp wise, my W-30 in 1972 was rated at 300 hp. I have owned it since new, but the torque was close to 500 lb ft, that was with a different better flowing head than the 73, I’m not insulting your car, just stating what I know to be true, even with these disadvantages, I know your car felt powerful in the seat of the pants, torque will do that, HP numbers mean squat, without the torque to go with it, I’m very sure yours was a pleasure to drive. 👍👍👍👍👍 when you are ready, go looking for another, before they get outta hand price wise, the 73 and up are starting to come around, and finding a 4 speed big block won’t get easier as time goes on.
@@Musclecar1972 thanks Kurt ! I found out torque was high on those - I looked up the stats on my year, and it also said h.p. was 270 ! I think compression was maybe 8.5 to 1 ? I'm an Olds nut too, I've had 5 - not all 442's, mostly Cutlass Supreme cars. ! Thanks for replying. !
@@kevinsnyder4425 Yes, it was, be glad you didn’t have a 403, they were 7.8:1, lol but advertised as 8.1, the combustion chambers in the heads were huge, I owned a few of those as well, good motor with a head swap, and a few mods, even though it was a small block. Had a 1970 W-31 with the 350, was a nasty little motor, very quick, would actually beat a big block in the 1/8 th mile. I had a 1968 W-30, with a stroker, was 513 cu in. Motor was actually built by Joe Mondello, it was a real handful, and the list goes on, had quite a few more down through the years.
Jus bought me a 68” 442 today I’m 27 already have a 81 el Co I can’t wait too start on my 442
Enjoy! And way to start early!
The best and first year of the second generation!
"Sale Proof" is probably the last description I would apply to these cars. My God, musclecar prices are through the roof. I think I paid about $2500 for my used 70 W-30 back in 1978. They are six fiqure cars now.
I paid $1,800 for my 76 442 in 1982. Those collector prices are crazy!
I paid $1500 for my 70 442 in 1987. Still have it.
Love it. I have my first car i bought out of high school;1969 Cutlass 2 dr sedan. Very few survive . most people liked hard top. I love sedans. Each to their own. I enjoy meeting and sharing details and admiration at Oldsmobile club shows in Canada and the US. Thanks for a great show and review
All cutlasses had plastic fender wells, the red was W30 only, black was standard.
This 1970 seems to have wrong seat pattern, looks to be a 71.
I own a original 70 442 W30 convert since 1978 and love it.
Only drove mine about 800 miles total since I purchased it 43 years ago, it mainly sits in garage gathering dust.
Has 52k on it.
One of the cars of my childhood
You had a great childhood!
I have a 1972 W30 and I’ve got to say it’s such a pleasure to drive. I thought this was a well thought out and comprehensive video on the model. Good job mate, keep up the good work!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
I also have one, have owned it since new, just finishing a 5 year frame off. Flame Orange, white stripes and interior.👍👍
Don't ever call it a four- forty-two. It's 4-4-2. 🙄
I owned a 70 442 W-30 and I kick myself for selling it in 92. All original. Everything documented.
Never ever called a four forty two
Nope! Except once accidentally in the video..
But how can you even think that way about the car? Don't you know what that sounds like? You even knew what it was before you said it? What a disgrace to the brand name of such an iconic car? But thanks for the video
That thing is fucking badass
Yes it is!
What a wonderful car 🚘
It's very nice
I have the same car and exact color that is a convertible. It will on the front cover of OPGI part's catalog for 2022...😁
Amazing! Congratulations
@@SaleProofCarReviews Thank you
Your videos are informative. I hope you'll come back in 2024!
I have a 1972 442 W30 restored made cover of muscle car review is thinking of selling it 400 trans
All 442s have plastic fender wells my 1970 non W30 has black plastic ones.
It's the 69 442 coupe for me best lines equally if not better looking than its chevelle cousin .
Love this car
WHEW! when that engine turned off and got comfortable!
Where are all the 65’ Coupes? Never see them in auctions!
Someone in my neighborhood is selling this car but theirs is a convertible with with cover and blue body
Give it a few years
The 442 will be hard to get
Take it from me
I have one and it wasn't cheap
If that cover on the differential is a real W 27 it's an unobtainable option and no mention of it? Personally, I don't know why anyone would order a 442 with an automatic but that's just me.
Uhhhhhhh. I've wanted one of these since I was a kid but dam are they hard to find without breaking the bank
You just need a bigger bank.
@Sale Proof Car Reviews How expensive is gas on average for this car? Also are parts for this car in abundance at the moment or should I go for a different classic?
I couldn't tell you exactly how expensive gas would be as I haven't owned this car. Parts I would presume are relatively abundant, there are still many 442s on the road and the car has a sizable following
Gas for this car is exactly the same as for any other car. The price of gas is the price of gas. The price of gas doesn't vary from car to car.
If I remember correctly, my 70 442, 455, 4-spd and 3.42 gears got about 4mpg. Do with that what you will.
@@SaleProofCarReviews My 71 442 got 10mpg in 1981 340hp 455 tbh400 3.90 diff
This car is a tribute clone it is not a w30. The drivers fender and hood is off another car . The trumpet exhaust tips are from pypes . The interior is from 2 separate cars .
the VIN would determine that
In my opinion the rear trunk spoiler wasn’t a good looking option, it didn’t fit the lines of the car, the only car of that era that actually had a good looking spoiler in my opinion was the 1969 GTO Judge, it followed the lines of the car.
Far too many cars have had the rear spoilers added on later, especially 69-70 Mustang fastbacks. Generally, we prefer the look of the cars without the extra clutter.
@@hiitsstillme Absolutely, my point exactly.👍 I have a 1972 W-30 442 in my shop, ordered it brand new in 1972 didn’t like the trunk spoiler then, still don’t. Just finishing a frame off restoration on it, the body man tried to talk me into one, we had a slight disagreement! LOL 😂 I prevailed! 👍👍👍😉
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😣Oldsmobile should have dropped Pontiac instead of Olds!...Oooops...they did drop Pontiac.😵🥴🤪
Hahaha!
Um... What?
So I own a 68 which came with the 455 In it you said about 1400 were made in 1968 So my question is how would you be able to research if mine was one of those 1400.
It's difficult to tell just by VIN alone if yours is indeed a Hurst/Olds from 1968, here are some other signs you can look for:
You would have to see if your car came with the 455 cubic inch engine (there were a couple smaller engines available that year as well).
Your car would have to be silver on black (that was the Hurst/Olds color for 1968).
Your car would have to have the Hurst/Olds badges.
Your car would have walnut wood inlays.
Your car would have the Hurst branded shifter.
In 1968, only the Hurst equipped Olds models had the 455. There was a corporate restriction across GM limiting midsize vehicles to 400 cubic inch Max. Oldsmobile got around it by allowing Hurst to upfit it with a separate performance package which included the 455. It should be noted in the 68 model year the Hurst equip 455 was underrated at 390 horsepower. There are Dyno tests here on UA-cam that show rebuilt stock Hurst 455 motors from that year 68' attaining well north of 400 horsepower and 525 foot pounds of torque.
No 442 came with a 455 in 1968, only the Hurst until 1970
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I always thought 442 ment.
4 bbl,4 speed, positaction
4 barrel 4 speed 2 dual exhaust
@@Powell_OBonez only in 64’
@metcalf22
64 was the only year it actually stood for something. Auto transmission was available in 65 on a 442 so it meant pretty much whatever you car had then. 400ci , 4barrel + 2doors
@@Powell_OBonez 64’ was the first year and the only year that ever represented “four-speed”, like the man explains. It’s on the second page of the 65’ owners manual too.
i WANT IT!
You could not afford on😢 working at MacDonald's! Keep dreaming 😂
@@GarthWinkleton Oh funny guy. Which fast food chain do you work for dude
The Olds models from that generation are good looking, but they're lead sleds. Too heavy.
Declasse sabre
Stripes are off. Emblems are off. Wheels shouldn't be body color. Many questionable things on this car. Some sucker probably bought it not knowing.
No test drive folks.
Light 'em up.. or I'm not impressed.
This car is a clone,not a real w-30.
regular 442's had plastic wheelwells,as well.
the W-25 hood is actually heavier than a regular 442 hood.
you could also get the w-25 hood on a regular Cutlass or 442 from 70 to 72
any Cutlass/442 could be orderred with bucket seats,not a big deal.
'70 W30's have historically sold for more money than any 68 or 69 Hurst Olds.
a 100 point 70 w30 would sell for around 80-100k down to 20k for resto projects.
A concourse correct 70 W30 4 speed in the right color combo sells for much more than $100 grand these days not to mention more if equipped with a W-27.
@@brentnagy5913 agreed if you go to auctions.there was a 100 point 71 w30 for sale for 70k,didnt sell so the owner took it to mecum and got 110k for it LOL__ua-cam.com/video/n1WQ2gdPrq8/v-deo.html
Ok, I've read enough... sounds like you guys are the people to ask because so far I haven't found what I'm looking for. Am I making stuff up in my head? Was there ever a "W-41" option for any of these runs of Oldsmobile 442's? No I'm not talking about the Cutlass Calais 442 in the early 90's and I'm not confusing it with the spray lubricant trademarked as WD-40. I'm talking about a w 41 option in the late 60's or 70's. Was that a convertible option or something like that? Or, was it extra go fast goodies from the Hurst outfit? I remember Motor Trend writing about the "lost connection to the heritage of the w41 option in the (then recent) 1990-91 model olds 442"... I could me making it allup because now all I can find is a w 30 option being available in the 70's... Maybe there was a w 41 option in the mid 80's?
@@dennisgreiwe2078 You're probably meaning F-41, a performance suspension option.no 442 from that era had a w-41 option.There was a w-34 for Toronado GT engine.All 80's G bodies and B bodies had a 307 or a V-6.
@@johndillinger8482 That is possible that f and w got mixed up in my head.
Stripes were not done right
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Sweet ride
timing is off!
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