Everyone did, it’s just that he’s white so a lot of players didn’t wanna express a sentiment like that publicly but deep down they knew. I would have loved to seen MJ’s Bulls in 1992 or 1996 play Bird’s Celtics In 1984 or 1986
Larry Bird may be forgotten by your average NBA fan but educated NBA fans know the true rank of the best players of all time and that Larry Bird is a top ten player. History will show that Lebron isn’t in the top ten list.
I disagree about Bird being forgotten. I'm fairly young, and Bird was still one of those players I heard about growing up, even more so than Magic Johnson surprisingly. The player I would say is most forgotten would probably be, Moses Malone. I consider him probably top 15, and he played in the 80s so it's not even like he played with Wilt and Russell, yet no one ever talks about Moses. Isiah Thomas as well, though he's on tv so not so much. I also disagree about Lebron not being top ten, but that's your opinion. A lot of older cats don't seem to like Lebron James.
You got one thing so wrong and one thing so right. Lebron is lucky to be top 10 for sure. But Bird is not top 10. He’s top 2 without a doubt. Probably 1 since Jordan never beat him. And got swept twice.
Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer of all time because of his mind and that’s the difference between Lebron and Bird in my opinion. I think bird is better and I’d take him over Lebron any day.
Well the only one that compares to MJ are Bill Russel and Kareem, and MJ has a better case stats, highlights/moments and has in his favor be the only guard to do It without a big 3 or more times.
The one thing about Bird was he invented "clutch"! LeBron could never....ever fix his mouth to say he was more clutch. Bird, pulled wins out of his ass many times. The one time I saw Bird live he hit a last second 3 pointer from deep to beat the Hawks after he got viscously dunked on by Dominique Wilkens. He was like you win rhe round, but I win the FIGHT! Bird was awesome and my favorite All Time player.
Great video, great analysis, it is really hard to project but imagine if Len Bias played for the Celtics. 2-4 more championships 2 more MVP's are definite possibilities.
@@jessieurena7583Lebron's 3rd ring is legit. Draymond got his own dumbass suspended. Lebron has 3 rings and Bird had 3. Lebron has 3 Finals MVP to Bird's 2. Using rings isn't going to work in this argument.
@@madmax3998 Bird drank beers to alleviate the excruciating pain he played through. He played games with concussions, a torn elbow muscle, a broken orbital bone and multiple slipped discs in his back. He threw his body all over the court like a rag doll every pre-season game, every regular season game, every playoff game throughout his ENTIRE career (preceding his back and ankle surgeries). LeBron James started using PED's the minute he got off the plane in Miami...he's been using them ever since. The second he noticed that his game REALLY started to diminish 4-5 years ago....his slow, doughy elderly ass flew to Germany to receive an oxygenated PED blood shot (Kobe did the same thing). Motherfucker came back slim and trim two weeks later flying around the court like Superman. The difference was astonishingly obvious. It's cringe-worthy enough when Lestuperfans try to debate that he's a better player than Bird was attempting to use stats. But when longevity gets thrown into the mix? All of you should avoid using this like the plague. Don't go down that road...for your own good. It's an immediate dead end. Because...LeBron James is a cheater and Larry Bird wasn't a cheater. LeBron James continues to cheat the game because he's obsessed with his legacy. Larry Bird LOVED to play the game so much he never thought about his legacy. So attempting to use longevity? Obviously... will get thrown right back in your face. Stick to Lebron's "pre PED use" athleticism and one on one defense (not so much lately though), Those are the only 2 arguments you can honestly use.
CoJ Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson shared First Team All NBA in the years that Isiah made First Team (1984-86). Michael Jordan made 2nd team in his rookie year even though he scored 28 points per game on almost 52% shooting and missed both teams in his 2nd year when he broke his foot before making 1st team in 1987 alongside Magic.
For me, Larry is the best player all time!!!! Not the stronger man, or dominant force, but yes the best guy ever played this sport!!! HIGH IQ!!!!!! No doudt about it. LEGEND!!!!
I sometimes wonder if fans forgetting about other great athletes have something to do with their corporate sponsors as well. If Bird was a Nike athlete, would Nike make sure he is always mentioned in shows etc.? I like MJ and I know he made Nike famous. For as long as the brand survives, he won't be forgotten by the masses.
6:39 and I think the 1991 finals helped Magic's case even more. Because he didn't have Pat Riley as coach and he had Vlade Divac at center instead of Kareem Abdul Jabbar
People don't understand that even in the mid to late 70's when Kareem was entering his prime... Bill Walton was kicking his behind. Walton just had too many injuries, but he was on his way to a two peat before he got hurt. Walton didnt have much trouble with Kareem. And when Moses saw him, he was better than him as well.
Bird had 5 2nd place MVP votes. I'll never agree with you about Magic being better than Bird...respectfully. Saying that Magic was a better passer than Bird is far too subjective of a debate. And saying that it's not even close isn't at all accurate. IMHO....they were both equally great...and there's simply not enough evidence out there to claim that Magic was that much better of a passer than Bird was. That's your Laker fandom talking! Magic won more championships...he's got Bird there. But as far as everything else goes? Being as unbiased as an educated NBA fan can be who obsessively watched both of their careers from their rookie years to retirement? Bird was a better shooter, a better rebounder, a better free throw shooter, a better post up player, a better team defender. Talking intangibles....Bird had a higher BB IQ, and was a far better clutch performer, and much more fundamentally sound and well rounded of a basketball player than Magic was. Magic is absolutely in the Top 5. But claiming he was a better player than Larry Bird was? Taking every single facet of each players talents, intangibles and entire careers into consideration? It just doesn't add up...respectfully.
In previous vids he's had magic over the Bird. It was because he was more successful than him in terms of winning championships but, he has said that Bird was the better player and the best small forward ever. He was talking about magic for the pg position.
Yeah there’s almost no 2 players as close as bird and earvin And btw chronicles actually does think that Larry bird was better in his prime than magic but he has magic ahead for his winning
@@jaredbowen3527 OK. I have NO problem with an educated NBA fan adding more weight to championships than other aspects of a HOF player's game. And I think Chronicles absolutely puts more weight on championships than anything else. With that said? Why doesn't he rate Kobe higher? He doesn't even have Kobe in his TOP 10. Kobe won 5 championships...and for some reason his chips don't carry the same weight that Jordan's, Kareem's, Russell's, or Magic's do. I put a players fundamentals and intangibles above championships (Although My TOP 5? All of them have to have more than 2 chips absolutely). So I agree with him about Kobe....I don't think he's in the TOP 10. I've asked him to explain his "Kobe hypocrisy" for a couple of years now, But he's never replied...probably because he knows by now that I'm a chubby middle aged white man that shouldn't be commenting in his threads. LOL. But alas, I just cannot keep away! Every single sports fan in America, regardless of race, should be subscribing to this guys channel.
@@gogetter5137 he doesn't give those chips the same weight because he didn't lead his team/Wasnt the best player In a majority of them.He also thinks that pau gasol deserved finals MVP in at least one of those years they won championships He also says that without a dominate center ie shaq and gasol,He couldn't win the big one.And without Phil Jackson or a dominate center he couldn't even make the playoffs,even in his prime. And you know other picky stuff like low FG %.One time he said Micheal Jordan lowest FG% season is The same as Kobes highest FG% season But hey,hes saying this stuff. not me
@@jaredbowen3527 Well THANK YOU Jared! Finally I have closure on the Kobe thing. SERIOUSLY! I must have TOTALLY missed the video he posted explaining why Kobe's chips don't weigh up as much as the chips won by his TOP 5! Again....I agree wholeheartedly about his views on Kobe....I don't have him in my TOP 10 either! I just wanted some clarification... because it just seemed so out of whack with how he rated his TOP 5. Totally makes sense now. Now I can sleep better at night.,,, LOL. AGAIN....THANK YOU!
Can't wait to see your future video on the Lakers getting AD! Lot of people are crowning the Lakers but I think it's a little bit premature to crown them champions! My top 6 is Jordan, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Bill Russell, and Kareem!
just an observation you have mentioned Kd having a need to go to his own team and win championships there as the leader as a knock against him. Lebron wasnt the leader in the miami years but no one in the media discredits those championships. also, Ray Allen and Kyrie both hit the shot that won/preserved hope for the title and Lebron gets all the credit for those titles also
I also agree that bird is the greatest small forward of all time over Lebron. My top 10 1.Jordan 2. Magic 3.Kareem 4. Shaq 5. Bird 6.Olajuwon 7. Russell 8. Kobe 9.Duncan 10. Wilt
Man I hated seeing that sky hook as a kid. It just seemed so ugly. This skinny old dude with goggles throwing up the hook time after time. Super annoying as a little kid.
Love your videos and how you stop and put things into the proper perspective right as they are being said = perfect timing. FYI Kareem actually won the FMVP in 1980 after Magic's great game 6, but because Kareem was not present, the voters were asked to change their votes so Magic would win the award. This award belongs in Kareem's trophy case. What actually happened is covered in the book titled "Kareem" on pages 140-141. So Kareem as a Laker won the FMVP in 80 and 85. Magic won the FMVP in 82 and 87. Worthy won the FMVP in 88. Love your videos = keep up the excellent work!
I still don't understand why everyone still runs with the notion that Larry Bird couldn't play today. Even in the 80s they would say the exact same thing when the pace of the game was high and they said he couldn't run or jump. Like seriously Bird's skill and IQ was so high that he would be dominant today
9:53 that is exactly the reason why I have Kareem below Magic Johnson. Like Kareem won an MVP in the 70s and his team didn't even make the playoffs. He didn't win much when he was the lone star on a team.
21:12 yes will have to agree on that one as well and it was probably because of the 1984 finals as well. Magic Johnson didn't become the best player in the league until around the 1986-87 season and after that Bird stayed relatively healthy for one more season and he finished second in voting in the 1987/88 season and then it just fell off due to injury
giannis is baby kareem impact wise, but KD is more comparable to kareem legacy wise in my opinion..if KD 3peats or 4peats with GSW & wins a ring elsewhere as well as win another MVP he will end his career as best SF to ever play
And unlike every player on that list Larry was injured from day one. Putting the whole embellished media embraced white black narrative aside he had to overcome injuries along with his lack of speed and athleticism. Although to be fair in his younger years he showed that he could get up and down the court pretty well. Still this man is the GOAT of toughness can anyone would be hard-pressed to find competition that is close that department.
Larry Bird 24ppg 10 rebs 6assist...LeBron James 27ppg 7rebs 7 assist both 3 rings LeBron James got that huge meltdown in the 2011 finals I don't know if Larry has a huge meltdown in the finals.
No sir, he did not. He only won 2 Finals MVPS and Cedric Maxwell won one, averaging (17.7ppg /9.5rpg/2.8apg) in the other Finals that Bird won but Bird did not lose it because he didn't play well. He averaged 15.3ppg, 15.3rpg, 7apg, 2.3spg in that series against Houston. Maxwell had a few big games 3 through 5 and it appears to be the reason for him to win it.
The one thing also people seem to never point out is if you have only one player to shoot the last shot who hand do you want to ball land at the end of the game. I can only think of two people Larry Bird first and second Michael Jordan. LeBron probably is not even in the top 20
An still I'll take Bird before LeBron. The mind of Larry Bird outweighs all you wrote, Bird wasn't the guy to try an stat pad an he actually let his PG be a PG, Larry Bird is clearly better than LeBron. That's the argument, LeBron after his 5th finals L was out of the I'm better than Mike topic. 6 rings vs 6 Ls ain't that boutta bitch.
Scouts Honor - so what. Lebron played countless more years. That's why he has more awards. And scoring is SO MUCH EASIER today. And LBJ played in a system where he's allowed to control the ball almost every possession. Of course his stats are higher. Prime Bird was a much better overall player. And as far as getting the job done under pressure, he makes LBJ look like a little boy. Bird defined clutch while LBJ is the opposite. He falls apart under the biggest moments. Bird was a much better player. Anybody who watched both will say that.
Boogie Loo Anybody who watched basketball won’t say that so stop lying. Actually most people say Lebron is greatest SF of all time. Just accept that bird isn’t better than Lebron.
@@boogieloo1831You can't discount physical dominance, durability and longevity. For those reasons alone I would take Lebron over Bird. But in terms of pure skill and b-ball IQ I definitely take Bird.
KD is the closest to Bird I’ve seen in regards to a consistent shot. But Larry had it in any situation, any amount of pressure, guys draped all over him, Larry getting off a good shot, he was so controlled n skilled. For me, Larry all day over Lebron.
1 major reason why Magic wasn't a better player in the earlier stages of his career in the 80's is b/c he was still deferring to Kareem. Riley later told Magic it was his team and to take over when Kareem was aging and on his way out! Btw, the white media was overhyping Larry Bird b/c he was white and they were biased...
Hey overall every since Lebron won 2016 we had the best small foawrd it’s faxs you agree we all agree we all love Lebron and respect Lebron king 🤴 James Danny green 3s!
I seen them ALL PLAY OK most of them' Larry Bird has theBall in his hands and Every Other player that has Ever been considered a SHOOTER is WAITING on You to pick a PLAYER to make that last SHOT to Save his life. if Your life is on theLIne its Your pick ?
MJ, Kobe and Bird-overall and skill. Like LeBron and Magic, but not enough consistent shooting for Me especially during Crunch time, although Magic had his moments. Kareem, Duncan and Olajuwan- best skilled Big Men. Shaq most physically Dominant. KD my favorite player now. Kawhi has been really Impressive lately-maybe the best overall now. see what LeBron does next year, KD recovering from injury-if he goes to the Knicks with no support -he may not last physically for too long. Golden State prob the best fit. Greek Freak still needs a consistent shot. We shall see.my Take. peace Out !!
OK, OK, I'll drop my top 20 for ya'll. Just keep in mind I often switch between 1 and 2 as well as 5 and 6 spots. Also, I have Lebron ranked higher than Kobe, but would rather have Kobe on my team: 1. Jordan 2. Kareem 3. Magic 4. Duncan 5. Bird 6. Russell 7. Oscar 8. Wilt 9. Lebron 10. Shaq 11. Baylor 12. West 13. Olajuwon 14. Kobe 15. Mosses Malone 16. Isiah 17. David Robinson 18. Willis Reed 19. Barkley 20. KD
No Havlicek, nor Bob Pettit. Top 20? If you have Bill Russell an Wilt ranked Bob Pettit have to be too, you have David Robinson too high an Pettit is easily 2nd greatest pf ever.
jessie urena he retired after 88. He was old and his body wasn’t the same. He still a 6 time champ and a 6 mvp. Number 1 all time leading scorer. Stop hating bro.
@@motrellmorrid543 I'm not hating I'm pointing out the facts lol how is that hating? And Kareem retired in 89 not 88 finals MVPs should hold more weight Kareem won 6 MVPS in a decade of WEAK MVP competition he didn't deal with another top 10 NBA player in there prime in the 70s
3:30mark....Doc(an i DAM sureaint referencing Glen Rivers)doesn't get the proper respect considering he carried 2 leagues and was dominant. Not the greatest but better than top 20...
Magic was 20 when he came in to.the league while Bird was 23. So, of course Bird reached his prime earlier than Magic. Bird hit his stride 3 years.before Magic.
Well, maybe alot of them had Larry Bird in their Top 10, but who actually says that he is the goat? The other guys are mentioned because of their fame and their fan base. Larry doesn't have it like AI or Kobe, Lebron or MJ. Look at the size of the fanbases and when who they grew up watching. Kareem is mentioned cause he's known for his longevity and accumulative stats, also his almost unguardable hook shot. Again mentioning Larry as the GOAT makes no sense, just like Hakeem. Great Top 10 Players but not GOAT material. Although I have Hakeem over Larry. Greatest Center of all Time. You can never forget, you play on both ends.
To be honest, Kareem gets TOO much credit in my opinion and I think a lot of it has to do with the New York bias that Max and Stephen A. Smith demonstrate on a consistent basis. Kareem is top 10, no doubt, but I don’t see how he rates above Wilt. Wilt was a superior athlete, defender, rebounder, passer and offensive weapon. He was also more efficient than Kareem (Wilt’s PER was 26.13 vs Kareem’s 24.58). Wilt also shifted his focus away from scoring after his 7th year, otherwise, he would have easily ended his career with 40K points. While I’ll admit Wilt underachieved during his career, Kareem won nothing without the help of arguably the two best point guards of all time in Magic and Oscar. Kareem gets props for longevity and he was a better winner than Wilt (going back to Power Memorial, UCLA) but, on the whole, I don’t get the Kareem > Wilt argument on a basketball skills/ability level.
No sir. Kareem was superior offensively and defensively. He was a better player than Wilt overall. Wilt was more talented. Wilt could do it all. But couldnt do it consistently enough.
Stars please? Kareem defensively wasn’t close to Wilt and advanced defensive metrics show that. I get your feelings on this one, but I just ask that you back it up with stats.
@@donaldsnead215 um, I'd say wilt is certainly underrated defensively. But so is Kareem. Bc you dont think of Kareem as being rugged or tough. People think of him as being more finesse but in the 70s Kareem was a nice mix of power and skill. He would yam in your face just as much as he would sky hook you. And if you are at the center of all the winning and putting up major numbers then yeah you are a main reason for the winning lol. Wilt always underperformed in the playoffs. Kareem never did..I bet the numbers would back me up on that too......
@@charcoalcowboy I'm not saying KAJ wasn't great, he was. He's just not better than Wilt. Wilt definitely underperformed in the playoffs at times, but not always. With KAJ, there were seasons in which he missed the playoffs altogether in the 70s in his prime. Wilt in the playoffs put up 23 ppg and 25 rpg...KAJ put up 24ppg and 10rpg. Both shot over 50 percent in the playoffs as well, so I wouldn't say that Wilt stunk it up in the playoffs, but I can give KAJ the edge there because his teams usually won. That said, KAJ played on legendary UCLA teams and, as I said before, he played with the two best PGs in NBA history. KAJ was a key part of all of those winning squads, but you can't ignore the talent around him. I don't mind people taking KAJ over Wilt, it's a fair position to have. I just don't agree with it and the individual stats tend to back me up on that. But to be fair to KAJ, his team success and longevity is why, I believe, so many people rate him so highly. But if you could honestly pick between a prime Wilt and a prime KAJ for your starting 5, would you honestly pick KAJ?
@Rap Lawyer Google Dominique Wilkins postarize Larry Bird....and after you watch it, if you listen really close, you can hear me in the background going...ohooooo!
How is Lebron not the second best player ever? He's a dynasty all by himself making it to 8 straight Finals with 2 different teams & was the best player on those teams. Regardless of if he won, he ruled the NBA landscape for 8 straight years.
If he had done this just with the Cavs, I believe he would be more respected and higher om the all time list. Unfortunately, Lebron is a team hopping drama queen with a losing record in the Finals! No way he can be elevated to the 2nd best of all time!
@@dweez4703 Jerry West was made the NBA logo to counteract the sentiment that the NBA was a black man's league. The NBA logo is supposed to be Bill Russell or Kareem. You sound silly dude. This is not a fan channel. Thanks for viewing the video.
Lebron won a chip so now he got 4 correct me if I’m wrong u said if Bron get one more chip u put him over bird . Also I wanna get your reaction how lebron been playin avg 29 at 37 with dis trash roster
Best case for LeBron he ends up at the 6th spot. I worst case, he ends up 9th maybe 10th for some ppl. I have Kobe at 7th and could otherwise see him be 12-13th, while LeBron, like Kobe, used to have a shot at being in the top 5 I would argue he could be placed anywhere from 10th-6th/7th. I have LeBron at 9th as of now only because I’m awaiting his career to end so I can properly rank him but expecting to move him past Kobe and Tim Duncan yet fall short of Larry at 5 by winning his 4th adding to his lore and of course those illustrious career stats. I have archetype, all time rank in your position, intangibles, skill, how well you fit in an championship team, stats, peak, longevity, defense and lore as my deciding factors. But I don’t care for Wilt and I think Kareem is overrated and even Magic to lesser degree while Hakeem is underrated...White ppl make up shit about Wilt 🤷🏽♂️, son couldn’t jump 60 inches and kill a bull with his bare hands. Those 100 points are not impressive, c’mon now. He’s a great legend though, a basketball folklore. He would be like JaVale McGee at best in the modern era, which is good that’s an All Star caliber player, tire 1 All Star like Kyle Lowery.
Kareem Abdul-Jabar completely dominated at every level from High School to the NBA and you mention the lack of excitement of his highlight reel. Smh I shut the damn video off as soon as I heard you say that. That's almost as bad as a young dude at the gym telling me Draymond Green wasn't an effective player because his 2k rating was in the eighties. You should do a video on how a lot of young brothers need to do more research and stop being prisoners of the moment. Because you grew up in "the Lebron James era" is no excuse to not know the numbers and accomplishments of the great players before him. Men lie, Women lie, but numbers don't. Put some respect on Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr. / Kareem Abdul-Jabar's name, when you're talking basketball.
Sh!t.. who turned your trigger meter to 120? I would know why he stated lack of excitement but you couldn't grab it in context? He is great and has mention it plenty of times in other videos but through all of his videos this one lit a fire under your clit. We some nitrogen with a chaser for BCB1..
I'm not a Kobe fan but he is ranked higher than LeBron in my opinion. Basketball is a skilled sport and Kobe's skills are elite in more categories than LeBron. LeBron athleticism is the only thing elite about his game. He is highly over rated. I don't have either one in my top 5. I got Bird 6 behind 1MJ, 2The Dream, 3Magic, 4 Isaia, 5Kareem, then Bird. It's disrespectful to rank LeBron higher than 8
Larry bird is not a better passer than lebron maybe more flashy but lebrons passes are crisp and clean and hit you right in the hands, way more precision and tbh faster at seeing a play before it happens.
Bird was the first 50/40/90 shooter. And he was arguably the most clutch player ever. He was brilliant.
The bird is the word.
Larry Bird is the GREATEST SF of All-Time.
Rodman couldn't do nothing with Bird neither could Pippen
No one could lol
Wilt blocked the hell outta the sky hook twice in a row lol
Dennis Rodman once blocked Kareem's skyhook too, during the 88-89 Finals
@Oasis. Thanks
Bird was a monster. Everybody he played with and against respected the hell out of him(for the most part)
Everyone did, it’s just that he’s white so a lot of players didn’t wanna express a sentiment like that publicly but deep down they knew. I would have loved to seen MJ’s Bulls in 1992 or 1996 play Bird’s Celtics In 1984 or 1986
Larry Legend is not forgotten.. He is absolutely in the TOP 10
Furious Styles Top 5
Top 5 clown
Bird is never talked about.. Thank u sir
20:03 man, this brother does not miss with his takes. That’s exactly what happened vs Boston this year
And the Bucks! Lol. Chronicles knows his basketball.
Lmaoo REAL TALK
Larry Bird may be forgotten by your average NBA fan but educated NBA fans know the true rank of the best players of all time and that Larry Bird is a top ten player. History will show that Lebron isn’t in the top ten list.
What history is it that will show Lebron isn’t top 10? Please enlighten us so I can have a good laugh.
I disagree about Bird being forgotten. I'm fairly young, and Bird was still one of those players I heard about growing up, even more so than Magic Johnson surprisingly. The player I would say is most forgotten would probably be, Moses Malone. I consider him probably top 15, and he played in the 80s so it's not even like he played with Wilt and Russell, yet no one ever talks about Moses. Isiah Thomas as well, though he's on tv so not so much.
I also disagree about Lebron not being top ten, but that's your opinion. A lot of older cats don't seem to like Lebron James.
Isaac Royal they leave him out of their top 10 due to hating reasons, not basketball reasons and I find it hilarious lol.
You got one thing so wrong and one thing so right. Lebron is lucky to be top 10 for sure. But Bird is not top 10. He’s top 2 without a doubt. Probably 1 since Jordan never beat him. And got swept twice.
Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer of all time because of his mind and that’s the difference between Lebron and Bird in my opinion. I think bird is better and I’d take him over Lebron any day.
Larry was a beast. His back hindered and shortened his career
“All I know is people tend to forget how great the older great players were. It’ll happen that way with me, too.” - Larry Bird
Excellent video Chronicles!!! I couldn’t have said it any better. Chronicles you are doing more than analyzing...your educating. Thank you!!!
Nah the mainstream media continues to press that MJ is the greatest and they forget anyone before 1983.
Well the only one that compares to MJ are Bill Russel and Kareem, and MJ has a better case stats, highlights/moments and has in his favor be the only guard to do It without a big 3 or more times.
The one thing about Bird was he invented "clutch"! LeBron could never....ever fix his mouth to say he was more clutch. Bird, pulled wins out of his ass many times. The one time I saw Bird live he hit a last second 3 pointer from deep to beat the Hawks after he got viscously dunked on by Dominique Wilkens. He was like you win rhe round, but I win the FIGHT! Bird was awesome and my favorite All Time player.
Bird was special......and im only 27 and i know this. Dude was better than lebron
Shaq was so good he had 28k points 3FMVPs 8 All NBA 1st teams 15 all star appearances and a league MVP but we still say he underachieved
He did underachieve
Great video, great analysis, it is really hard to project but imagine if Len Bias played for the Celtics. 2-4 more championships 2 more MVP's are definite possibilities.
Until LeBron wins another ring, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson will always be better than him.
Agreed lebrons 3rd ring is b.s. , imagine in 87 if McHale was healthy and the NBA suspended worthy in game 5
Yeah well in this generation of basketball politics they make sure he get a chance he vice president and got Adam weirdo under his thumbs
@@jessieurena7583Lebron's 3rd ring is legit. Draymond got his own dumbass suspended.
Lebron has 3 rings and Bird had 3. Lebron has 3 Finals MVP to Bird's 2. Using rings isn't going to work in this argument.
Xavier Vega Bird played 12 seasons. Lebron is going into his 17th.
@@madmax3998 Bird drank beers to alleviate the excruciating pain he played through. He played games with concussions, a torn elbow muscle, a broken orbital bone and multiple slipped discs in his back. He threw his body all over the court like a rag doll every pre-season game, every regular season game, every playoff game throughout his ENTIRE career (preceding his back and ankle surgeries).
LeBron James started using PED's the minute he got off the plane in Miami...he's been using them ever since. The second he noticed that his game REALLY started to diminish 4-5 years ago....his slow, doughy elderly ass flew to Germany to receive an oxygenated PED blood shot (Kobe did the same thing). Motherfucker came back slim and trim two weeks later flying around the court like Superman. The difference was astonishingly obvious.
It's cringe-worthy enough when Lestuperfans try to debate that he's a better player than Bird was attempting to use stats. But when longevity gets thrown into the mix? All of you should avoid using this like the plague. Don't go down that road...for your own good. It's an immediate dead end.
Because...LeBron James is a cheater and Larry Bird wasn't a cheater. LeBron James continues to cheat the game because he's obsessed with his legacy. Larry Bird LOVED to play the game so much he never thought about his legacy.
So attempting to use longevity? Obviously... will get thrown right back in your face. Stick to Lebron's "pre PED use" athleticism and one on one defense (not so much lately though), Those are the only 2 arguments you can honestly use.
CoJ Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson shared First Team All NBA in the years that Isiah made First Team (1984-86). Michael Jordan made 2nd team in his rookie year even though he scored 28 points per game on almost 52% shooting and missed both teams in his 2nd year when he broke his foot before making 1st team in 1987 alongside Magic.
For me, Larry is the best player all time!!!! Not the stronger man, or dominant force, but yes the best guy ever played this sport!!! HIGH IQ!!!!!! No doudt about it. LEGEND!!!!
Hell no
Top 3 all time. Jordan, Bird and Johnson. No PED and no excuses.
Those are definitely three faces that are on the NBA's mount Rushmore
I sometimes wonder if fans forgetting about other great athletes have something to do with their corporate sponsors as well. If Bird was a Nike athlete, would Nike make sure he is always mentioned in shows etc.? I like MJ and I know he made Nike famous. For as long as the brand survives, he won't be forgotten by the masses.
I think another player that is never mentioned among the top 10 players is Hakeem Olajuwon. I have him at No. 7 but no one really mentions about him
Nice Clip, CoJ. "It is what it is." Peace.
Larry Bird is my all time #1 favorite player.
I have been saying this about Larry Bird- dunked on Jordan plenty of times!
6:39 and I think the 1991 finals helped Magic's case even more. Because he didn't have Pat Riley as coach and he had Vlade Divac at center instead of Kareem Abdul Jabbar
People don't understand that even in the mid to late 70's when Kareem was entering his prime... Bill Walton was kicking his behind. Walton just had too many injuries, but he was on his way to a two peat before he got hurt. Walton didnt have much trouble with Kareem. And when Moses saw him, he was better than him as well.
Bird had 5 2nd place MVP votes. I'll never agree with you about Magic being better than Bird...respectfully. Saying that Magic was a better passer than Bird is far too subjective of a debate. And saying that it's not even close isn't at all accurate. IMHO....they were both equally great...and there's simply not enough evidence out there to claim that Magic was that much better of a passer than Bird was. That's your Laker fandom talking! Magic won more championships...he's got Bird there.
But as far as everything else goes? Being as unbiased as an educated NBA fan can be who obsessively watched both of their careers from their rookie years to retirement? Bird was a better shooter, a better rebounder, a better free throw shooter, a better post up player, a better team defender. Talking intangibles....Bird had a higher BB IQ, and was a far better clutch performer, and much more fundamentally sound and well rounded of a basketball player than Magic was. Magic is absolutely in the Top 5.
But claiming he was a better player than Larry Bird was? Taking every single facet of each players talents, intangibles and entire careers into consideration? It just doesn't add up...respectfully.
In previous vids he's had magic over the Bird. It was because he was more successful than him in terms of winning championships but, he has said that Bird was the better player and the best small forward ever. He was talking about magic for the pg position.
Yeah there’s almost no 2 players as close as bird and earvin
And btw chronicles actually does think that Larry bird was better in his prime than magic but he has magic ahead for his winning
@@jaredbowen3527 OK. I have NO problem with an educated NBA fan adding more weight to championships than other aspects of a HOF player's game. And I think Chronicles absolutely puts more weight on championships than anything else.
With that said?
Why doesn't he rate Kobe higher? He doesn't even have Kobe in his TOP 10. Kobe won 5 championships...and for some reason his chips don't carry the same weight that Jordan's, Kareem's, Russell's, or Magic's do.
I put a players fundamentals and intangibles above championships (Although My TOP 5? All of them have to have more than 2 chips absolutely).
So I agree with him about Kobe....I don't think he's in the TOP 10.
I've asked him to explain his "Kobe hypocrisy" for a couple of years now, But he's never replied...probably because he knows by now that I'm a chubby middle aged white man that shouldn't be commenting in his threads.
LOL. But alas, I just cannot keep away!
Every single sports fan in America, regardless of race, should be subscribing to this guys channel.
@@gogetter5137 he doesn't give those chips the same weight because he didn't lead his team/Wasnt the best player In a majority of them.He also thinks that pau gasol deserved finals MVP in at least one of those years they won championships
He also says that without a dominate center ie shaq and gasol,He couldn't win the big one.And without Phil Jackson or a dominate center he couldn't even make the playoffs,even in his prime.
And you know other picky stuff like low FG %.One time he said Micheal Jordan lowest FG% season is The same as Kobes highest FG% season
But hey,hes saying this stuff.
not me
@@jaredbowen3527
Well THANK YOU Jared! Finally I have closure on the Kobe thing. SERIOUSLY!
I must have TOTALLY missed the video he posted explaining why Kobe's chips don't weigh up as much as the chips won by his TOP 5!
Again....I agree wholeheartedly about his views on Kobe....I don't have him in my TOP 10 either!
I just wanted some clarification... because it just seemed so out of whack with how he rated his TOP 5.
Totally makes sense now.
Now I can sleep better at night.,,, LOL.
AGAIN....THANK YOU!
Bird > LeBron
Hakeem and Larry bird in my opinion
Can't wait to see your future video on the Lakers getting AD! Lot of people are crowning the Lakers but I think it's a little bit premature to crown them champions! My top 6 is Jordan, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Bill Russell, and Kareem!
just an observation you have mentioned Kd having a need to go to his own team and win championships there as the leader as a knock against him. Lebron wasnt the leader in the miami years but no one in the media discredits those championships. also, Ray Allen and Kyrie both hit the shot that won/preserved hope for the title and Lebron gets all the credit for those titles also
Who cares about a shot? Did they play better than him in the series? Hell no.
I also agree that bird is the greatest small forward of all time over Lebron.
My top 10
1.Jordan
2. Magic
3.Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Bird
6.Olajuwon
7. Russell
8. Kobe
9.Duncan
10. Wilt
Mine:
Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Duncan
Lebron
Bird
Shaq
Hakeem
Russell
Wilt
Man I hated seeing that sky hook as a kid. It just seemed so ugly. This skinny old dude with goggles throwing up the hook time after time. Super annoying as a little kid.
James Calandrella he still the number 1 all time leading scorer. Stop hating bro. 6 time champ , 6 time mvp.
@@motrellmorrid543 "as a little kid"
Love your videos and how you stop and put things into the proper perspective right as they are being said = perfect timing. FYI Kareem actually won the FMVP in 1980 after Magic's great game 6, but because Kareem was not present, the voters were asked to change their votes so Magic would win the award. This award belongs in Kareem's trophy case. What actually happened is covered in the book titled "Kareem" on pages 140-141. So Kareem as a Laker won the FMVP in 80 and 85. Magic won the FMVP in 82 and 87. Worthy won the FMVP in 88. Love your videos = keep up the excellent work!
What about Kawhi Leonard scoring percentage
It's hard to rank him due to how his career started.
Kareem was 7 foot 2
I still don't understand why everyone still runs with the notion that Larry Bird couldn't play today. Even in the 80s they would say the exact same thing when the pace of the game was high and they said he couldn't run or jump. Like seriously Bird's skill and IQ was so high that he would be dominant today
Judah...what do you think of James Worthy?..& where does he rank to you amongst small forwards?
9:53 that is exactly the reason why I have Kareem below Magic Johnson. Like Kareem won an MVP in the 70s and his team didn't even make the playoffs. He didn't win much when he was the lone star on a team.
I think you are right about Larry Bird, like these pundits just overlook Bird like LeBron is far better than him and Magic Johnson
Legend
Lebron most over rated, Zeke most under rated
Less teams makes it harder to win not easier when it comes to Bill RUSSEL.
Right its like playoffs year round at that point.
21:12 yes will have to agree on that one as well and it was probably because of the 1984 finals as well. Magic Johnson didn't become the best player in the league until around the 1986-87 season and after that Bird stayed relatively healthy for one more season and he finished second in voting in the 1987/88 season and then it just fell off due to injury
giannis is baby kareem impact wise, but KD is more comparable to kareem legacy wise in my opinion..if KD 3peats or 4peats with GSW & wins a ring elsewhere as well as win another MVP he will end his career as best SF to ever play
"Giannis is baby Kareem"...Can you name 1 accomplishment that Giannis has to warrant this statement?
@@yunggpacino MVP & DPOY 2019. ONLY PLAYER SINCE HAKEEM & MJ TO WIN BOTH IN SAME SEASON !
Bird averaged 15 rpg in the 81 finals. Vs a prime Moses Malone!
Bird > Magic
They funny thing is you forgot to mention lebron greatest rival paul pierce
And unlike every player on that list Larry was injured from day one. Putting the whole embellished media embraced white black narrative aside he had to overcome injuries along with his lack of speed and athleticism. Although to be fair in his younger years he showed that he could get up and down the court pretty well. Still this man is the GOAT of toughness can anyone would be hard-pressed to find competition that is close that department.
Larry Bird 24ppg 10 rebs 6assist...LeBron James 27ppg 7rebs 7 assist both 3 rings LeBron James got that huge meltdown in the 2011 finals I don't know if Larry has a huge meltdown in the finals.
No sir, he did not.
He only won 2 Finals MVPS and Cedric Maxwell won one, averaging
(17.7ppg /9.5rpg/2.8apg) in the other Finals that Bird won but Bird did not lose it because he didn't play well. He averaged 15.3ppg, 15.3rpg, 7apg, 2.3spg in that series against Houston. Maxwell had a few big games 3 through 5 and it appears to be the reason for him to win it.
The one thing also people seem to never point out is if you have only one player to shoot the last shot who hand do you want to ball land at the end of the game. I can only think of two people Larry Bird first and second Michael Jordan. LeBron probably is not even in the top 20
George Ice too in the 80's
NBA Championships
Lebron - 3
Bird - 3
All Star Games
Lebron - 15
Bird - 12
Regular Season MVP
Lebron - 4
Bird - 3
All NBA Team Selections
Lebron - 15
Bird - 10
All Defensive Teams
Lebron - 6
Bird - 3
Scoring Titles
Lebron - 1
Bird - 0
Career Averages
Lebron - 27.2 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 7.2 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg
Bird - 24.3 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 6.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg
An still I'll take Bird before LeBron. The mind of Larry Bird outweighs all you wrote, Bird wasn't the guy to try an stat pad an he actually let his PG be a PG, Larry Bird is clearly better than LeBron. That's the argument, LeBron after his 5th finals L was out of the I'm better than Mike topic. 6 rings vs 6 Ls ain't that boutta bitch.
Zaccai Israel Bird will never be better than Lebron ever.
Scouts Honor - so what. Lebron played countless more years. That's why he has more awards. And scoring is SO MUCH EASIER today. And LBJ played in a system where he's allowed to control the ball almost every possession. Of course his stats are higher.
Prime Bird was a much better overall player. And as far as getting the job done under pressure, he makes LBJ look like a little boy. Bird defined clutch while LBJ is the opposite. He falls apart under the biggest moments. Bird was a much better player. Anybody who watched both will say that.
Boogie Loo Anybody who watched basketball won’t say that so stop lying. Actually most people say Lebron is greatest SF of all time. Just accept that bird isn’t better than Lebron.
@@boogieloo1831You can't discount physical dominance, durability and longevity. For those reasons alone I would take Lebron over Bird. But in terms of pure skill and b-ball IQ I definitely take Bird.
Out of those 5 Lakers Championships, Magic was the Finals MVP 3 times, Kareem once, and Worthy once.
I agree Bird was 6’10 because in pictures with him and Magic he looks taller then magic and magic is 6’9.
Magic was closer to 6'7
@@seanhat4784 Bird is 6-9 . look at photo's
KD is the closest to Bird I’ve seen in regards to a consistent shot. But Larry had it in any situation, any amount of pressure, guys draped all over him, Larry getting off a good shot, he was so controlled n skilled. For me, Larry all day over Lebron.
Question how come when it comes to kd they talk about him going to gsw but lebron did they same but they rank him number 2 🤔
1 major reason why Magic wasn't a better player in the earlier stages of his career in the 80's is b/c he was still deferring to Kareem. Riley later told Magic it was his team and to take over when Kareem was aging and on his way out! Btw, the white media was overhyping Larry Bird b/c he was white and they were biased...
What do Larry Bird, Barry Sanders, and Aaron Rodgers have in common? Short careers for the stats but greatest video evidence of their superior play.
Hey overall every since Lebron won 2016 we had the best small foawrd it’s faxs you agree we all agree we all love Lebron and respect Lebron king 🤴 James Danny green 3s!
Kobe is probably like “I’m upset “ 3rd on this list “Disrespect ! Drake voice ! Jordan is the greatest!
Top 5 all time
1.Jordan
2.kareem
3.wilt
4.bill
5.magic
One of my Uncle's has Magic as Number 1
I seen them ALL PLAY OK most of them' Larry Bird has theBall in his hands and Every Other player that has Ever been considered a SHOOTER is WAITING on You to pick a PLAYER to make that last SHOT to Save his life. if Your life is on theLIne its Your pick ?
MJ, Kobe and Bird-overall and skill. Like LeBron and Magic, but not enough consistent shooting for Me especially during Crunch time, although Magic had his moments. Kareem, Duncan and Olajuwan- best skilled Big Men. Shaq most physically Dominant. KD my favorite player now. Kawhi has been really Impressive lately-maybe the best overall now. see what LeBron does next year, KD recovering from injury-if he goes to the Knicks with no support -he may not last physically for too long. Golden State prob the best fit. Greek Freak still needs a consistent shot. We shall see.my Take. peace Out !!
You're being too nice lol LeBron is at best #9 on all time...
OK, OK, I'll drop my top 20 for ya'll. Just keep in mind I often switch between 1 and 2 as well as 5 and 6 spots. Also, I have Lebron ranked higher than Kobe, but would rather have Kobe on my team:
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Duncan
5. Bird
6. Russell
7. Oscar
8. Wilt
9. Lebron
10. Shaq
11. Baylor
12. West
13. Olajuwon
14. Kobe
15. Mosses Malone
16. Isiah
17. David Robinson
18. Willis Reed
19. Barkley
20. KD
No Havlicek, nor Bob Pettit. Top 20? If you have Bill Russell an Wilt ranked Bob Pettit have to be too, you have David Robinson too high an Pettit is easily 2nd greatest pf ever.
Bill Russell=🐐
Lol at Kareem at no. 4 behind Kobe and Lebron
11:50 (ish) semantics is not a solid base for an argument. Just saying.
What happen to your channel I wanna get your take on what’s goin on now
Kareem won only 2 of the finals MVPs in his 6 chips, and in 87 and 88 he was basically a role player
jessie urena he retired after 88. He was old and his body wasn’t the same. He still a 6 time champ and a 6 mvp. Number 1 all time leading scorer. Stop hating bro.
@@motrellmorrid543 I'm not hating I'm pointing out the facts lol how is that hating? And Kareem retired in 89 not 88 finals MVPs should hold more weight Kareem won 6 MVPS in a decade of WEAK MVP competition he didn't deal with another top 10 NBA player in there prime in the 70s
Kareem is in my top 5 but I'm pointing out why he isn't number one. Magic was the man on the showtime Lakers
Chronicles, Stop the brakes. Bird wasn’t roasting Dominique, they were roasting each other, also Dr.J was on the decline.
Max kellerman not an nba expert. None of these guys are exerts. They are just journaists
Kd or lebron will never catch bird. Bird top 5
3:30mark....Doc(an i DAM sureaint referencing Glen Rivers)doesn't get the proper respect considering he carried 2 leagues and was dominant. Not the greatest but better than top 20...
He is between 11-15
Breaking News: Kobe is coming out of retirement to play with Lebron and A.D.
Kobe went up against the best wings
Magic was 20 when he came in to.the league while Bird was 23. So, of course Bird reached his prime earlier than Magic. Bird hit his stride 3 years.before Magic.
How old yall think coj is?
He was probably born between 1969 and 1978. Gen-X
I believe he was born in the early-80's. He's hinted at it his age when referring to eras of basketball.
In a video he said him and Tracy McGrady around the same age if not the same
T-mac is listed as a SG not a SF bro.
Is listed is not what he played though. T Mac would play 3 positions.
And would lose in the first round regardless of what position
Well, maybe alot of them had Larry Bird in their Top 10, but who actually says that he is the goat? The other guys are mentioned because of their fame and their fan base. Larry doesn't have it like AI or Kobe, Lebron or MJ. Look at the size of the fanbases and when who they grew up watching. Kareem is mentioned cause he's known for his longevity and accumulative stats, also his almost unguardable hook shot. Again mentioning Larry as the GOAT makes no sense, just like Hakeem. Great Top 10 Players but not GOAT material. Although I have Hakeem over Larry. Greatest Center of all Time. You can never forget, you play on both ends.
To be honest, Kareem gets TOO much credit in my opinion and I think a lot of it has to do with the New York bias that Max and Stephen A. Smith demonstrate on a consistent basis. Kareem is top 10, no doubt, but I don’t see how he rates above Wilt. Wilt was a superior athlete, defender, rebounder, passer and offensive weapon. He was also more efficient than Kareem (Wilt’s PER was 26.13 vs Kareem’s 24.58). Wilt also shifted his focus away from scoring after his 7th year, otherwise, he would have easily ended his career with 40K points. While I’ll admit Wilt underachieved during his career, Kareem won nothing without the help of arguably the two best point guards of all time in Magic and Oscar. Kareem gets props for longevity and he was a better winner than Wilt (going back to Power Memorial, UCLA) but, on the whole, I don’t get the Kareem > Wilt argument on a basketball skills/ability level.
No sir. Kareem was superior offensively and defensively. He was a better player than Wilt overall. Wilt was more talented. Wilt could do it all. But couldnt do it consistently enough.
Stars please? Kareem defensively wasn’t close to Wilt and advanced defensive metrics show that. I get your feelings on this one, but I just ask that you back it up with stats.
@@donaldsnead215 um, I'd say wilt is certainly underrated defensively. But so is Kareem. Bc you dont think of Kareem as being rugged or tough. People think of him as being more finesse but in the 70s Kareem was a nice mix of power and skill. He would yam in your face just as much as he would sky hook you. And if you are at the center of all the winning and putting up major numbers then yeah you are a main reason for the winning lol. Wilt always underperformed in the playoffs. Kareem never did..I bet the numbers would back me up on that too......
@@charcoalcowboy I'm not saying KAJ wasn't great, he was. He's just not better than Wilt. Wilt definitely underperformed in the playoffs at times, but not always. With KAJ, there were seasons in which he missed the playoffs altogether in the 70s in his prime. Wilt in the playoffs put up 23 ppg and 25 rpg...KAJ put up 24ppg and 10rpg. Both shot over 50 percent in the playoffs as well, so I wouldn't say that Wilt stunk it up in the playoffs, but I can give KAJ the edge there because his teams usually won.
That said, KAJ played on legendary UCLA teams and, as I said before, he played with the two best PGs in NBA history. KAJ was a key part of all of those winning squads, but you can't ignore the talent around him.
I don't mind people taking KAJ over Wilt, it's a fair position to have. I just don't agree with it and the individual stats tend to back me up on that. But to be fair to KAJ, his team success and longevity is why, I believe, so many people rate him so highly. But if you could honestly pick between a prime Wilt and a prime KAJ for your starting 5, would you honestly pick KAJ?
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NO! Bird DID NOT burn Wilkins, it was the other way around. This is the first time I have to disagree with you Chronicles.
@Rap Lawyer Google Dominique Wilkins postarize Larry Bird....and after you watch it, if you listen really close, you can hear me in the background going...ohooooo!
How is Lebron not the second best player ever? He's a dynasty all by himself making it to 8 straight Finals with 2 different teams & was the best player on those teams. Regardless of if he won, he ruled the NBA landscape for 8 straight years.
How many rings do you get for making it to the Finals lol? Thanks for viewing the video.
If he had done this just with the Cavs, I believe he would be more respected and higher om the all time list. Unfortunately, Lebron is a team hopping drama queen with a losing record in the Finals! No way he can be elevated to the 2nd best of all time!
Jerry West went 1-8 in the Finals & he’s the logo. You just don’t like LeBron, but u can’t take away the fact that he’s a dynasty all by himself
@@dweez4703 Jerry West was made the NBA logo to counteract the sentiment that the NBA was a black man's league. The NBA logo is supposed to be Bill Russell or Kareem. You sound silly dude. This is not a fan channel. Thanks for viewing the video.
Lebron won a chip so now he got 4 correct me if I’m wrong u said if Bron get one more chip u put him over bird . Also I wanna get your reaction how lebron been playin avg 29 at 37 with dis trash roster
Best case for LeBron he ends up at the 6th spot. I worst case, he ends up 9th maybe 10th for some ppl. I have Kobe at 7th and could otherwise see him be 12-13th, while LeBron, like Kobe, used to have a shot at being in the top 5 I would argue he could be placed anywhere from 10th-6th/7th. I have LeBron at 9th as of now only because I’m awaiting his career to end so I can properly rank him but expecting to move him past Kobe and Tim Duncan yet fall short of Larry at 5 by winning his 4th adding to his lore and of course those illustrious career stats.
I have archetype, all time rank in your position, intangibles, skill, how well you fit in an championship team, stats, peak, longevity, defense and lore as my deciding factors. But I don’t care for Wilt and I think Kareem is overrated and even Magic to lesser degree while Hakeem is underrated...White ppl make up shit about Wilt 🤷🏽♂️, son couldn’t jump 60 inches and kill a bull with his bare hands. Those 100 points are not impressive, c’mon now. He’s a great legend though, a basketball folklore. He would be like JaVale McGee at best in the modern era, which is good that’s an All Star caliber player, tire 1 All Star like Kyle Lowery.
Nba expert? That’s laughable
Kareem not a leader but Robertson nor Magic ever won without him.
17:37 now I know you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Stick to your social commentaries...
Kareem Abdul-Jabar completely dominated at every level from High School to the NBA and you mention the lack of excitement of his highlight reel. Smh I shut the damn video off as soon as I heard you say that. That's almost as bad as a young dude at the gym telling me Draymond Green wasn't an effective player because his 2k rating was in the eighties. You should do a video on how a lot of young brothers need to do more research and stop being prisoners of the moment. Because you grew up in "the Lebron James era" is no excuse to not know the numbers and accomplishments of the great players before him. Men lie, Women lie, but numbers don't. Put some respect on Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr. / Kareem Abdul-Jabar's name, when you're talking basketball.
Sh!t.. who turned your trigger meter to 120? I would know why he stated lack of excitement but you couldn't grab it in context? He is great and has mention it plenty of times in other videos but through all of his videos this one lit a fire under your clit. We some nitrogen with a chaser for BCB1..
I'm not a Kobe fan but he is ranked higher than LeBron in my opinion. Basketball is a skilled sport and Kobe's skills are elite in more categories than LeBron. LeBron athleticism is the only thing elite about his game. He is highly over rated. I don't have either one in my top 5. I got Bird 6 behind 1MJ, 2The Dream, 3Magic, 4 Isaia, 5Kareem, then Bird. It's disrespectful to rank LeBron higher than 8
Larry bird is not a better passer than lebron maybe more flashy but lebrons passes are crisp and clean and hit you right in the hands, way more precision and tbh faster at seeing a play before it happens.
How many games of Bird's did you see lol? Thanks for viewing the video.
Dude what do you have against Kobe?
Nothing
Lew Alcinder>Mike, Bron, Kob, Bill, and Larry. Knock it off.
Another analitical nerd, don't talk about basketball