they would do something about it... but they are all busy off sexually harassing employees. You might say they have their "hands full" so to speak! LOL
We laugh at this dude but he has infinite patience. I would already throw my keyboard out of window lol. P.S.: And by the way, big middle finger to Blizzard for abandoning greatest RTS alive.
If talking about patience, how about Serral vs the hacker that lags the game to super slow it down? Serral spent hours on that game because he didn't want to surrender
@@famulanrevengeance3044 yeah but seeing a youtuber get pissed is actually really funny. I wish same guy did this strategy some more and made him ragequit.
I feel so sorry for Artosis who plays the game he loves. This has been going on for quite some time unfortunatly :( Still, @ArtosisTV, Kudos for keeping your calm as much as you do!
BW uses peer-2-peer networking, so things like this and drophack are possible and probably very easy to do (edit: not necessarily true, see oldyoutubeaccount's comment). There's no central server saying "I control XYZ data and it can only be changed in these ways that I expect". I doubt Blizzard implemented much (if any) anticheat, either.
@@Genome320 I agree completely although I feel like "player has more minerals than are on the map" should be checked maybe every 1000 rates/frames or so. Idk lol
@@Genome320 i dont think they care about anything except fixing those powerpoint graphs to appear to look good during that annual meeting to their investors
@@Genome320 SC uses lockstep. Both clients need to agree to the actions that are happening & their outcomes or players will disconnect. You can't create minerals or gas out of thin air. From the replay, it looks like this overflows the action buffer and there's probably one specific action you can do during that overflow/at the limit that results in gaining minerals when it normally wouldn't. It looks like it is related to building/cancelling a building because the minerals only spike when the player starts to build in both replays. A lazy fix would be to give any player who hits the action limit a loss or at least a disconnect. It seems inhumanly high at 2500+ apm.
Something like this? Instantly adding tens of thousands of resources? You’d think so. It might be a little more complicated to do without using up too much computational power and because of where certain data actually is and how it’s shared over MP
@@torduc22 then I wait 5 seconds and then add the resources in with my hack circumventing your check. You need to be able to detect whenever resources are tampered with client side and I suspect it’s easier said than done:
I have the original SC+Broodwar, i have the remastered SC+BW, i have the Carbot skin. I haven`t played a multiplayer game in 15 years or so but sometimes fire up the campaign after watching these guys stream ASL which i`m catching up with in my free time (ASL S11 rn). But lets be clear: SC will die once these two guys stop playing/casting. It will remain a thing in Korea but the rest of the world will forget about it once Tastosis stops playing/streaming. So, time for us to start petitioning Blizzard to fix this crap on ladder.
Honestly Artosis lasted quite a while even if his enemy had literally infinite money in that first game. I would've probly been dead with the gateway if I was playing Terran.
shame. i remember another RTS called Ashes of the Singularity had the same issue. devs said they couldnt really do anything about it. pretty lame imho... SC1 completely ruined with that hack. yuck.
The older the game, the more ways we find to break things. Look at speedrunning in just about every game, only a very select few that are more than 2-3 years old don't have any game-breaking bugs. Of course it's still not acceptable.
0:26 - that's what the hackers live for. If you don't reward them they won't have a reason to play boring game which they can't loose. The only joy is to make the other player mad.
There is but it doesnt do anything as nobody at blizz is working on remastered actively. Remastered is a part of the "classic games" division or whatever and all they do is switch the ladder maps once or twice a year.
@@oskari7953you can bet your ass that the guys "working on classic games" are actually devs who have a shit-ton of tasks in other, newer games- and are given these tasks on top of their usual workload. That's the gamedev way 👍
dam i was laughing at first thinking it was a great strat... but whoah infinite money... is a thing. thats pathetic.. what happened to blizzard. thats disappointing.
Because it's a 24 year old game, that was EOL 20 years ago, it's not remotely feasible to invest more resources into this game. They will however try to sell it to you again and again as they did with remaster, but it's your own fault for buying it.
@@kurosumomo You make a good point. (for all viewers) Can I compare an old game with a large community, to a children playing ground in a city? If so, wouldn't it fall on the City to make sure the slide doesn't cut the kids a little?! I also think people get attached to certain games. so. let me revise the original question: "What can we do? such that our favorite games will only get more stable with time, and have less room for future cheats while keeping room for innovation" or are we to surrender to the reality that our favorite games will die before we do.
Why he's so mad? If hackers is the reason he's unable to climb then he should also hack. I mean he's playing ranked, there are no rules here, they all fight for the top.
I really doubt there's a bunch of kids watching an old, dying man play a 66-year-old game. Srsly though, I don't think these are kids. Why would they even know or care about SC? It's more likely older guys who just happen to have a poopy sense of humor. I mean, it's as hard to understand for me as people donating to Webcam models, or going to modern urban/RnB/pop concerts. It's unfathomable for me personally, but so many people do it apparently.
Can someone explain how chatting with the guy is happening I’m seeing like 2-3 different names I mainly play SC 2 so idk thanks in advance from my understanding isn’t it just you and the person your playing able to chat with each other
I've played against these hackers before and it's super annoying. Like why would you even do it? It's not even fun to cheat liek that. And if you're gonna cheat at least do something cool. He did the lamest shit ever...
good to know not only remastered looks bad, but has cheaters in it too. i think ill stick to og broodwar. sorry you had to play against those scrubs arty. gave ya a like
RT, I am glad to see the mindset you're shifting towards. Despite your lingering pessimism you've become more able to not take yourself too seriously, and I see your game improving in the future .
Pissed for you bro. Imagine sitting there trying to disguise your hacks lol, that's the job... Why even play? Will probably eventually just ruin ladder, and later on the game.
I guarantee you believe it or not but there were actually more hackers back in 2009-2017 pre remastered era. Unless you had wdetector to see if you were playing against hacks it was pretty brutal playing on bnet. Literally everyday playing you'd run into hackers multiple games in just pubs. 😂 It made playing this game extremely annoying so I feel for poor arty. 😅
the best RTS of all time will die in the hands of bobby and friends.. the community has been carrying this game for far to long. more hackers in the remaster then vanilla had.... love to see it??? good joke blizzard this game is not worth 1$
Artosis is just bad. His opponents don’t hack don’t cheat , all of his games are in fact real. 25 years playing sc and he’s still losing to the same shit because he’s incapable of getting over himself. It’s fun to watch the salt tho. Like a toddler playing with their baby food Artosis never fails to elicit laughs.
This is unacceptable by Blizzard. Can’t let stuff like this happen.
This has been going on since 2k.
They could Not give Less of a Fuck.
they would do something about it... but they are all busy off sexually harassing employees. You might say they have their "hands full" so to speak! LOL
@@Shemhazai7 no they aren't
sadly they don't care.
You opponent literally went
"black sheep wall"
"show me the money"
"operation cwal"
yeah....and then they breathe deep ... :) 10 times
We laugh at this dude but he has infinite patience. I would already throw my keyboard out of window lol. P.S.: And by the way, big middle finger to Blizzard for abandoning greatest RTS alive.
Microsoft owns them now? Blizzard been dead for years anyway
@@shotgunarms Activision's been dead*
@@shotgunarms Microsoft doesn't own them yet.
If talking about patience, how about Serral vs the hacker that lags the game to super slow it down? Serral spent hours on that game because he didn't want to surrender
scummiest dogshit company to ever exist for sure
If blizzard allows hackers in the game like this, they should just give a full refund to anyone who purchased remastered when refused to fix.
…. K
That’s just sad that people spend their time playing a game hacking
Spend their time hacking a 20 year old game, no less
It would be fun to screw around with infinite minerals for the lols tbh LMAO
@@eyeofhorus1301 Only vs artosis it would be fun. Doing it vs random people you have to be a loser
this is sad. hacking in RTS game is just sad. or any games in general.
@@PCgamerChannel only because you're taking it too seriously but there are some hilarious troll ideas to try with infinite minerals
I can't believe that we're living in the world with guys that use auto-win hacks in a 24 year old game. It's unbelievably lame...
It's fun to watch though.
@@SorakaOTP462 maybe once. then it's boring and predictable.
@@famulanrevengeance3044 yeah but seeing a youtuber get pissed is actually really funny. I wish same guy did this strategy some more and made him ragequit.
@@SorakaOTP462 Lol. I think Artosis rages enough without hackers
if anything gets arty to quit bw it would be this, what a shame to see
when artosis is all concentrated he does the grandma-face
I feel so sorry for Artosis who plays the game he loves. This has been going on for quite some time unfortunatly :(
Still, @ArtosisTV, Kudos for keeping your calm as much as you do!
Yikes 2 hackers in a day. The second hacker most likely sniped you after he saw that first hack game, but still what a nasty ladder.
Oh my God that is definitely a bit fucked up.
Hack counter "power overwhelming" should be introduced against such guys
u can't use sc1 campaign cheat codes on multiplayer
@@FlandreScarletMadalin which is why he made this comment
@@shiinondogewalker2809 I agree 👍
how is there a free mineral hack? seems something that would be hard to do in a multiplayer game
It'd be very easy to detect and punish. Blizzard just doesn't care :/
BW uses peer-2-peer networking, so things like this and drophack are possible and probably very easy to do (edit: not necessarily true, see oldyoutubeaccount's comment). There's no central server saying "I control XYZ data and it can only be changed in these ways that I expect". I doubt Blizzard implemented much (if any) anticheat, either.
@@Genome320 I agree completely although I feel like "player has more minerals than are on the map" should be checked maybe every 1000 rates/frames or so. Idk lol
@@Genome320 i dont think they care about anything except fixing those powerpoint graphs to appear to look good during that annual meeting to their investors
@@Genome320 SC uses lockstep. Both clients need to agree to the actions that are happening & their outcomes or players will disconnect. You can't create minerals or gas out of thin air.
From the replay, it looks like this overflows the action buffer and there's probably one specific action you can do during that overflow/at the limit that results in gaining minerals when it normally wouldn't. It looks like it is related to building/cancelling a building because the minerals only spike when the player starts to build in both replays.
A lazy fix would be to give any player who hits the action limit a loss or at least a disconnect. It seems inhumanly high at 2500+ apm.
RT's editor deserves a pay raise for this edit
Time to hope onto alternate servers Arty... Blizzard doesn't give a shit about their ladder
i wish blizzard could actually detect smth like that on ladder instantly, and ban right away and give the other the win. cant be that hard to code.
right? like if your starting mineral value is over 50 in a ladder game, that should auto trigger boot and ban
Or like anytime you have more resources than the entire map. Blizzard just don't care.
@@magdelen1123 yeah - I can’t imagine these codes being that difficult to implement
Something like this? Instantly adding tens of thousands of resources? You’d think so. It might be a little more complicated to do without using up too much computational power and because of where certain data actually is and how it’s shared over MP
@@torduc22 then I wait 5 seconds and then add the resources in with my hack circumventing your check. You need to be able to detect whenever resources are tampered with client side and I suspect it’s easier said than done:
Artosis love victory but it's an Onesided love.
This game needs drastic Anti-cheat
seeing this dude play, makes me wanna jump into SC ladder to suffer as he does lol
I have the original SC+Broodwar, i have the remastered SC+BW, i have the Carbot skin. I haven`t played a multiplayer game in 15 years or so but sometimes fire up the campaign after watching these guys stream ASL which i`m catching up with in my free time (ASL S11 rn). But lets be clear: SC will die once these two guys stop playing/casting.
It will remain a thing in Korea but the rest of the world will forget about it once Tastosis stops playing/streaming.
So, time for us to start petitioning Blizzard to fix this crap on ladder.
Honestly, this is why i stopped playing on ladder cudos to you for being super patient with all those troll-hacker losers.
7:56 😂
Damn you can beat maphackers if theyre not as good as you but its impossible to be infinite money
tl;dr: the hacks also includes plan B (inf resources) if you suck on maphacking
That moment you cut to his face at 6:07 was hilarious
You can also hack and have infinite minerals Artosis, embrace the new meta
Honestly Artosis lasted quite a while even if his enemy had literally infinite money in that first game.
I would've probly been dead with the gateway if I was playing Terran.
shame. i remember another RTS called Ashes of the Singularity had the same issue. devs said they couldnt really do anything about it.
pretty lame imho... SC1 completely ruined with that hack. yuck.
I'm glad we got the video to prove the hackers. Soo unfortunate for artosis go have to deal with this bs
That guy was just really really good you know with his 9132 APM, clicking seventeen mice at once in different directions.
Rough day pal, that is one of the rare times when raging can be allowed
It's so fucked up that's even possible. Nice game blizz
The older the game, the more ways we find to break things. Look at speedrunning in just about every game, only a very select few that are more than 2-3 years old don't have any game-breaking bugs. Of course it's still not acceptable.
Lol you think it’s a blizzard issue.
Makes you wonder why they even bother saying glhf
7:58! Stay away from drugs kids...
Happy 4/20 shoutout to 7:56 by the boy wonder
i bet i couldn't beat artosis even with a trillion minerals
CHIPPITY CHIPPITY SIM SIM SIM!!!
Wow. That infinite money cheat was farked! Didn't know that was possible on remastered. Shame on Blizzard.
Arto is the resiliency in person.
0:26 - that's what the hackers live for. If you don't reward them they won't have a reason to play boring game which they can't loose. The only joy is to make the other player mad.
That 18 supply block lol
Man what the fuck Blizzard. Hacks AND name spoofing.
no report function?
There is but it doesnt do anything as nobody at blizz is working on remastered actively. Remastered is a part of the "classic games" division or whatever and all they do is switch the ladder maps once or twice a year.
@@oskari7953you can bet your ass that the guys "working on classic games" are actually devs who have a shit-ton of tasks in other, newer games- and are given these tasks on top of their usual workload. That's the gamedev way 👍
that he forgot to reposition his expo cc was so triggering.
dam i was laughing at first thinking it was a great strat... but whoah infinite money... is a thing. thats pathetic.. what happened to blizzard. thats disappointing.
2508 APM cracked me up ahahahahahahhahahh
Artosis, Arbiter of Morality
aa, the great arthritis, how can you hate him, cool guy
I wouldn't trust artosis to fix balance, but probably fine on the other stuff.
since people play this game for a living, hacking is probably actually a crime punishable by the law.
Blizzard too busy with the D2R nerds like dbrunski to care about StarCraft
It's IdrA Artosis, IdrA
Probes should should really have a charge for how many buildings they can make at one time. this game needs a patch
faced this type of hack before
RT, Tasteless, Geoff and Totalbiscuit all should of been running the sc community the entire time. rip tb/geoff
😂 the new “anti-hack” hack popular with leet hackers 😂 deceleration build & mining 😂
Remember Iccup? Remember Antihack?
Blizzard is a disgrace for allowing this to happen.
Hackers should be put in solitary confinement for a year
Judging from the title and thumbnail, I thought Artosis Broodwar Clips reuploaded or something
The anti cheat in broodwar is waiting long enough so that the cheaters get bored
Why is this possible (not enough years for debug?!)
Because it's a 24 year old game, that was EOL 20 years ago, it's not remotely feasible to invest more resources into this game. They will however try to sell it to you again and again as they did with remaster, but it's your own fault for buying it.
@@kurosumomo You make a good point.
(for all viewers)
Can I compare an old game with a large community, to a children playing ground in a city?
If so, wouldn't it fall on the City to make sure
the slide doesn't cut the kids a little?!
I also think people get attached to certain games. so. let me revise the original question:
"What can we do? such that our favorite games will only get more stable with time,
and have less room for future cheats while keeping room for innovation"
or are we to surrender to the reality that our favorite games will die before we do.
Why he's so mad? If hackers is the reason he's unable to climb then he should also hack. I mean he's playing ranked, there are no rules here, they all fight for the top.
Show me the money!!!
wow that's unfortunate
cheated mins but couldn't cheat gas , armature BR
lol what - this is the state of starcraft now? yikes
wait, they literally have server hacks? that's nuts
It wrecks sc bw and that’s disappointing
You should make an account and do all the hacks vs the hackers. Would be hillarious. Hacker vs hacker
Everytime I watch an Arty video the fucking donations drive me nuts. Is this what passes as humor now? What is wrong with kids these days?
There should be a short character limit or some other method of restricting these morons.
I really doubt there's a bunch of kids watching an old, dying man play a 66-year-old game.
Srsly though, I don't think these are kids. Why would they even know or care about SC? It's more likely older guys who just happen to have a poopy sense of humor. I mean, it's as hard to understand for me as people donating to Webcam models, or going to modern urban/RnB/pop concerts. It's unfathomable for me personally, but so many people do it apparently.
Can someone explain how chatting with the guy is happening I’m seeing like 2-3 different names I mainly play SC 2 so idk thanks in advance from my understanding isn’t it just you and the person your playing able to chat with each other
How does the game not desync from that???
why i always hear that into on every stream lol
This is pretty depressing :( Forced back to SC2?
I've played against these hackers before and it's super annoying. Like why would you even do it? It's not even fun to cheat liek that. And if you're gonna cheat at least do something cool. He did the lamest shit ever...
Show me the money!
good to know not only remastered looks bad, but has cheaters in it too. i think ill stick to og broodwar. sorry you had to play against those scrubs arty. gave ya a like
Poor artosis
RT, I am glad to see the mindset you're shifting towards. Despite your lingering pessimism you've become more able to not take yourself too seriously, and I see your game improving in the future .
LOL. Maybe you are too positve.
Title: 300k
Fuck this is crazy !!!
한국인을 대표해 사과드립니다. 죄송합니다.
scan would have won oh and we need shield battery again to save BW?
What would happen if a hacker meets a hacker on ladder?
section question mark
IdrA should run everything
Pissed for you bro. Imagine sitting there trying to disguise your hacks lol, that's the job... Why even play? Will probably eventually just ruin ladder, and later on the game.
Just curious why does he prefer sc1 over sc2?
I guarantee you believe it or not but there were actually more hackers back in 2009-2017 pre remastered era. Unless you had wdetector to see if you were playing against hacks it was pretty brutal playing on bnet. Literally everyday playing you'd run into hackers multiple games in just pubs. 😂 It made playing this game extremely annoying so I feel for poor arty. 😅
the best RTS of all time will die in the hands of bobby and friends.. the community has been carrying this game for far to long. more hackers in the remaster then vanilla had.... love to see it??? good joke blizzard this game is not worth 1$
GG
Fifth
Shut up
Edit: Jk i love you
zillion bzillion
This is so fucked up
420 everyday
Artosis is just bad. His opponents don’t hack don’t cheat , all of his games are in fact real. 25 years playing sc and he’s still losing to the same shit because he’s incapable of getting over himself. It’s fun to watch the salt tho. Like a toddler playing with their baby food Artosis never fails to elicit laughs.
he didn't hack, he just typed "show me the money" hahaha!!! (i know that cheat isn't allowed on multiplayer... I know I know)
You think its funny?
@@pinroshan020 yes are you going to cry because it's funny?
Sad
Arty Join Fish?
Those servers dont exist anymore
Flash would have won
guys artosis is the only one in the world that has a moral compass and makes good decisions,ok?
bro most people are actual dogshit, i rather agree with him than not
not the only one
one of the few
@@matteofontana_ "IM THE ONLY ONEEEEE"
So lame