Nuclear War: DIY Fallout Shelters with Jay Whimpey PE, President of TACDA
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2024
- A fallout shelter is designed to protect you from dangerous radioactive fallout. You can construct one inside of your home or in your backyard for less than you might think if you are willing to do it yourself.
In this video, we interview Jay Whimpey, PE who serves as the president of The American Civil Defense Association and Utah Civil Defense Volunteers. Jay shares valuable insight and recommendations for constructing your own fallout shelter.
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In a previous video, Jay Whimpey answered a question I've been looking everywhere for an answer, but haven't been able to find - that is can you eat animal meat after a nuclear event. There would be many other questions - although Jay said to stay away from the bones, but what about rest of the animal organs? Likewise, are fish safe to eat? I think there should be a hole video only about what we can and cannot eat after a nuclear event that is not pre-packaged food. This would be valuable information I think for many people
that's a very good question. I would like that answered by a radiological expert.
organs = meat. Lot of food and seeds for a garden if you do not want to become a scavenger. You can live on rice and beans if you have B12 vitamins. Check now for a farm with a greenhouse in your area (no radiation in that soil). After the 3 months, go to that farm, exit the corpses and take that farm as yours. Still living animals/fishes, should be your last option.
@@bobleponge1301 Meat is your muscles, not your organs. After nuclear event you have to dig all you garden down to 20-25 cm, before you can plant any crops - at least, this what they did in Japan to be "safe". That is why there is so much questions, what can/should be done after nuclear event
I would like to know more information on this too as well as how to get clean purified water 💦
@@kristiinakallas6130 Organs are no different than meat, that is what I was conveying. Except if you want to eat the digestive system of animals. As for ''digging'' the ground for cultivation it depends on many factors. Inside a greenhouse= NO radiation, Sandy soil will percolate rad particles faster and deeper than clay. Most clay will collect those because they are electrically charge, clay is often use for filtering radio-active/untested water. If bombs go off in winter and soil is frozen, removing the snow before it melt will remove a great amount of particles, still, you will have to protect the soil from rain for at least a year. Best is greenhouse, hydroponics or planting in earth bags from the garden store (take what you need, nobody alive to take it anyway). You can also get manure/compost from a big pile, discard the top and use the rest. Best water is from deep wells or shallow wells in clay areas. If you have more questions, I am here
When it comes to nuclear war I am send one to my front ward when I am at home. I am old and tired. I do not have the energy to run away. Those that are young and work to survive. I stand with you and hope the best for you. Take care.
I’m so sad that we are having to study this information right now because of the idiots in charge of the government’s of the world. That being said I greatly appreciate your making these videos for everyone to learn from. Please keep up the good fight.
This information has been being shared by fear mongers since the beginning of nuclear weapons and it certainly didn't just start this year with the war in Ukraine.
What's scary is how ignorant people can be.
Waste your life worrying about something that will likely never happen because you're a coward who consumed to much media.
I learned some of this in 60's in Elementary school, years ago.
Well said Jerry
Dont vote for Socialist or this is the thing you get.
AMEN
Never have I felt more blessed to live in the midwest- where nearly everyone has a basement. TY for these interviews.
Thanks for your comments...keep doing great things!
Sorry to say, but if nuclear war breaks out, you will be in the most heavily hit area in the United States, most of our nuclear weapons are concentrated in the Midwest, which obviously would be targeted in a nuclear war to try to prevent us from firing back....I wouldn't be surprised if they targeted each silo with multiple nukes each
@@Vcafr0 the Midwest would be hit the hardest in a nuclear war, most of the United States ICBMs are in the Midwest, making them targets for enemy nukes
All you have to do is pay attention to the prevailing winds to know that isn’t true. Ohio gets effects from fires on the west coast. May take longer to get here but it does.
@@NatureScapesStudio smart.
just the kind of person i want around after.
I can begin by getting more sandbags, filling water storage containers, plan out a 20x20 interior home safe space. Luckily I have two trenches pre-dug and lots of extra dirt that came from there. So an exterior refuge is also possible in case the house doesn’t survive the blast and fire. Gosh, how many sandbags do I need? I have about 3 dozen, but that’s not going to be enough. I also need plywood to cover the trenches…. Build ventilation air pumps… Wow, a lot to do. Great ideas, thanks!
I got a full basement with 1 ft thick concrete walls about 7 fr below grade. It’s dry no pumps was thinking of building something in the corner with sandbags for overhead and wall on 2 sides.
Clay has a density of approximately 110lbs/cu.ft. A bag of cat litter is approximately 1/3cu.ft if you have cat(s), purchase additional bags of cat litter to place in/around your hasty shelter to provide temporary shielding
I got the book last year from Amazon. As of today 3-11-23 they still have the hardcover book 25.00 and the soft copy 10.14...
Hello all from Canada . 🇨🇦 I can't believe this is happening. I'm in denial still. Sending love to all ! ❤️ 💖 ❣️
My story is similar to that of Jay's, in that I built my shelter out of an old fuel tank and had lots of help, but I did a LOT of work myself. Mine is constantly a work in progress 🙃.
Paul, Sharon and A.C. at Utah Shelter Systems helped me tremendously! Thanks to Sharon, I got a Swiss Air system at cost, due to an abandoned shelter project! My shelter is a long way from my home, so I'd need to practice due diligence as for WHEN to bug out!
Jay is an awesome guy! I'd also like to recommend bringing Sharon Packer and Paul Seyfried onto the podcast to talk about the same subject but from a different perspective.
Definitely a topic that I need more education on. Thank you for providing us with a good place to start! Can’t deny that with the current events that this topic isn’t occupying a lot more peoples thoughts. I’ve always been of a mindset that there wasn’t anything I could do within our budget. I see now that I was wrong. If you had told me 5 years ago that I would be researching nuclear shelters I would have laughed until my sides hurt. I guess it’s mostly because I was completely ignorant of the topic. Crazy times we are living! Thanks for this info. It’s comforting to know that I can at least do something.
Hey Beth...so much misinformation out there...too many movies and stories. With a bit of education and some minimal resources, most people will survive. We all hope a nuclear event never happens, but we can get through it if it does. And we can bless our families and those around us in the process. Thanks for being part of the solution!
@@JonathanBJones yes. It is difficult for sure to find trustworthy sources for information. Its one of the most valuable things you and your lovely wife have blessed others with. I am grateful for the recommendations on well researched information ❤️ I’ve gleaned so much valuable info and a lot of confidence and peace of mind from you. I never gave much thought to having a “life boat” (food, water, resources) beyond a week or two until about 6 years ago. I’m grateful I found your channel. It’s been a huge blessing. I also must compliment you on your delivery of this information. You always address these topics in a manner that is not fear inducing but encouraging. I’ve been concerned about the escalation of risk with the recent happenings around the world. I enjoy listening to Glenn Beck and it’s been quite bleak 😂 I know not everyone loves his program but he makes me laugh while providing information and links to the source of that information. That said, it’s been concerning for sure especially with the “disappearance” of the Rus. nuclear sub. Too convenient for my liking!
I just watched your video with Jay on fallout shelters... very interesting! Thank-you very much...my wife & I were the emergency/preparedness coordinators for several years in our church. But this is an area we haven't done much with.... thanks again!
How do you get air into a small shelter? I would suppose several people would use up the oxygen fairly quickly
The plastic covering a wooden underground root cellar/fall out shelter would last longer if you get the highest quality longest lasting greenhouse plastic! Most is guaranteed for at least 5 or more years but the plastic at big box stores will only last 6 months in the sun. Huge difference!
About a rubber pool liner which would be more expensive. Or recycle a put liner from a well driller.
I just signed up for TACDA. Wouldn't have without this video!
Well done...wealth of information there...keep making progress!
@@JonathanBJones Thank you, Sir!
You go on and make those fear mongers more money.
I am amazed that we live in an era where Nuclear War is possible. I am also amazed at people who have the coin to actually build a shelter. It seems every 'survival' video is inundated with things upon which we need to spend money.
Bottom line. Not everyone has a bankroll. Lots of companies are making bank on feeding fear and injecting paranoia.
Even if I had coin, not sure I would. Just not sure I want to live in a nuclear wasteland. In the words of Fred Gwynne on Pet Cemetery, 'sometimes dead is better.'
Dying by radiation is a tough way to die. Why not see if things might pan out with some preparation and God's help?
I would like to tell you both and your guest Jay thank you so much for putting in your time to share with us. I really do appreciate it !!
Such important and valuable information!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!
I haven’t watched the whole video, but I’m hoping to learn how to get safe ventilation during a nuclear fallout. Let’s say I had a shelter or sheltered in my basement, away from windows, etc.. how would I know the air is safe or how would I make the air safe?
This article about his shelter build was not in the last issue, nor the previous, I really hope it is in the April issue.
We bought ours 20 years ago.. and it is very informative...
Not really understanding why except for the fact that he wanted to dig a Root Cellar in the backyard, my grandson has been wanting to dig that Root Cellar every time he came over up until about a year ago so I suppose the best time to start digging is today which will have to be tomorrow because it's dark right now. This was very interesting I had seen him one time before on Canadian preparedness but that's as far as it went except for the book that Canadian preparedness offered but y'all left a link where we could get it for free, downloading it that is, and Canadian preparedness did not leave that link for us to get so thank you so much for doing that and for doing that I am going to subscribe to you. I'm so glad I found this channel it sounds like a very good channel to be associated with so y'all have a great day and please stay safe and may God bless.
TACDA is a great organization, and I’m planning to re-join immediately. Love the magazine and the videos! That being said, being prepared and gaining knowledge on the subject of survival is wonderful and essential for every family in the USA, and as part of our preparedness plans we should strongly petition our government to deploy NATION WIDE BALLISTIC MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS…NOW! DON’T ASK, DEMAND IT! IT IS OUR GOVERNMENT’S SACRED RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT US! “PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE.” BEGIN YOUR PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM, YES! BUT TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE, YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN AND WOMEN!
Could you do a follow up video on how to build the air pump? And thanks for all the information
Get the book ...Cresson Kearney covers it.
Awesome Jay, wish there was a lot more like this on UA-cam. The millennials are constantly doing videos about nuclear war and know absolutely nothing about it. Good to see the original thinking and budget considerations offered here.
Cinder block is fairly cheap and you can build a pretty nice shelter in your basement using the 4x8x16 in. solid blocks. Put 2x12 planks across top and add a 12 in. thick layer (3 blocks high) on top of the planks. that would give you 8 inch solid walls and a 12 in solid roof.
Charred lumber, and a little tar, plastic, and a great deal of gravel for good drainage around the diameter of the structure.
If that excites you, do it. With some good designs and your skill, you can bless lives. I also liked the other commenters thoughts. Keep doing great things!
if you need to stay in shelter for two weeks what do you do with the poo pee how can you fit everything need in such a small space these are subjects few talk about please do a video on it.
Actually, CAMOUFLAGE is essential if you don't want your neighbours to come knocking at the door for more than a coffee !!! Building an underground shelter in town is not feasible, everybody in the area will NOTICE IT AND REMEMBER. For now, the only option is basement bunkers with a hidden/secret entry(ex: going down from a movable kitchen isle right in the basement). Think panic room, you do not want to be found. When in despair, people will do everything to have what you have or DESTROY what you have to bring you to THEIR LEVEL. DESPERATE PEOPLE DO DESPERATE THINGS. Smoking you to death in your shelter, put fuel in the air intake, etc...DISCRETION comes at a premium, you must be creative. Hiding the entrance of a shelter under the floor of a shed and the air intake in garden bushes or statue pedestal, is the only way to go. No cooking for at least 2 weeks and only at night. Marauding people will smell your food from a long distance. ***SILENCE IS GOLD, your voice will be transmitted via the inlet/outlet of the air system***If you do not want to shoot at people, make sure you do not give your position in ANY WAY. If you build in a remote area with wood, don't forget to burn the exposed wood (earth side). If the plastic is compromise, insects and mushrooms don't like carbon and will not go through your planks.
Hey Bob...important suggestions...Thanks!
Good ideas😊
Is covering your shelter with a clear tarp a good idea. It could keep the fallout further away.
Not to mention you can get rid of the dust fairly easy.
Not really practical to do a shelter since I live in an apartment, but I've looked at the estimated nuclear target maps and am probably in one of the safest places in the US
Thank you so much for sharing. I was taught some of this in grade school many moons ago. LOL
Thanks for being part of the solution!
I just filled seven water barrels and topped it with wood and more cases of water. They say water is a solid much like lead. The barrels are thick and solid . Maybe other people might do this very cheap way to make a shelter
Jay's office looks like mine. Dont forget to think about air in your shelters (see the book they're talking about for an air pump). Unused septic tanks may work with some modification, if you have land area and resource, go to your local concrete company and see if they dont have 2'x2'x6' concrete blocks made from left over concrete. You can find those blocks really cheap. Hard to move, but they stack and make a really good root cellar. You only would have to worry about the roof.
If you live in the city, look around hard for old fallout shelters to go to. They're actually everywhere. Just knowing where they are is the trick. Have your bug out bags with food handy in your car so you can take them with you to the shelter.
And then, for everyone thinking about all this, think about what the world is going to be like when you emerge from your shelter. You'd better be ready to get intimate with the land.
Could you please tell me about the book they are talking about for an air pump. I just didnt understand where to find that, Thank you so much for the time you took to read this. Sharon
@@Sharon-cd9lp the links for the books are above under the description of the video. There are some free links as well to download. I just downloaded them.
Location, location, location !
If you're not in a big city or near a strategic location, it's all about down wind radiation.
In which case a safe room near the center of your house could work. Then it's about hiding and protecting your food and water source from other survivors who will probably die from radiation sickness in a few weeks but they still may be a threat after the dust settles.
I've been stalking food, water and other Essentials for several months now. We also put a hand pump well in our backyard so we could easier get water if needed. But my biggest hurdle is going to be waking up my husband to the reality we are nowhere prepared for such a catastrophe. Without his help and support I don't see myself being able to do the things necessary to protect our family. I have the determination, the intelligence and the man hours to put in. But I need his cooperation muscle and also Manpower
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Congrats on wasting you life on fear over something that will likely never happen in our life time.
Great start! Have the instructions for an expedient shelter on hand and you two could build it out in 48 hours
@@snavisTM why are you even here?
Start digging a deep hole for a huge water pip, after he's sees you digging a hole he'll know your serous on building a shelter.
My cousin dug a shelter under his house year's ago it started to cause structure problems, so he had to stop digging.
He did live to get old and past on.
His sister had to come all the way from Los Angeles to sale hers brother home. He left it to her. It was a nice home some homeless people moved into it and messed it up on the inside.
Great video! Is there a way to build a HOA friendly above ground shed?
My house is pier and beam, have a secret entrance in one room under the flooring. Wonder if it could possibly be turned into a shelter. Only about 3 feet high but could have plenty of room to modify!
I'd check into it. Very least you have a good hiding place and food stash and water area. Throw a cot in it and could stay hidden for a little if crazy enters your home.
Most definitely! 😃
Could you get away with digging down?
Sounds like you have a possibility. I like the other comments made. Consider the protection it will provide and decide if that is way to go. Keep doing great things!
My mom was born in 1940, so by 1945ish, she still very clearly remembers school drills to prepare for nuclear bombs! Apparently, the training was exactly the same as earthquake drills 🤷♀️🤦🏻♀️
Lol I was born in the late 60s and I remember doing nuclear drills in elementy school.
@@baddog9320 was it the same kind of practices??
I was born in 1982 and remember doing those. Kids who live near nuclear test sites still do those drills in school. Expand your mind.
@@melissae.8031 not understanding what you are asking.
We had to get under our desk. Then after had to go to the shelter under the cafeteria. ( which was a fall out shelter.)
FYI a lot of schools in California that were build 1940 to 1980 Have fallout shelter. Most are under the Cafeteria and gyms.
Another is Old McDonald's ( yeap the fast food place) have fall out shelters under them. LOL. most people don't know this. But ANY McDonald's built at least until 1985 has a fallout shelter under it. IDK why but it was a requirement of the McDonald's corporation to do this. Even the ones owned by private parties were required by contract to have them.
Other restaurants also had them..But you could count on McDonald's 100% of the time
also I remember you had to face away from the blast. They would mix up the direction the blast was.
lol. During earthquake drills you always had to face away from windows. But I remember questioning why we sometimes faced towards the windows for nuclear drills. to me as a kid it wasn't sound to be facing towards flying glass.
the reason was to protect from radiation.
Which really doesn't add up either.
I still say away from windows was better. even if it gave a slight bit more radiation. Since it was just for the blast. And shortly after you went to the fallout shelter.
Fire drills were monthly
Earthquake drill were about once a month or two.
Fallout drill were about 2 to 3 times a year. During the 70s. Dont remember them during the 80s, but was in Junior high or high school then. Also we moved 2 to 6 times a year. So it possible I just missed them at the schools
What about your walk in storm shelter with several feet of dirt on top ?
What about school buildings that were built in the 1960's and have the fallout symbol on them. Are they a viable option?
Thank you 😇🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I read that on line about fall out shelters in our basement 🙏🏻
We rarely have basements(esp basements that don't flood)in my section of our country(South). Even professionally sealed basements will leak at some point. We have too much water. Throw in regulations(city, state, and deed restrictions)where nosey neighbors would turn you in at anything "suspicious"? in their eyes(you know the type). I am envious of my Grand-parents dirt basement in Idaho. Whole different ballgame.
I live in an apartment complex so not much I can do for a fallout shelter. Also was thinking that if I had one and needed to stay in it for a few days how would I deal with sanitation issues and I also have a dog that goes out to do it's business...
I also live in an apartment that has a basement so I guess if I have to leave my top floor apt that's where will I will go
Great information… but I do have one question .. If you plan on building your own shelter how do you supply good air??
Hey Danielle...there are companies that make protective air systems such as Andiar (fairly pricey, but the best out there), or you can build something on your own. Do a bit of research and decide what will work best for you. Keep making progres!
What do you do when you can't get below ground and don't have a basement? Then what can you do?
My home is 8 foot off the ground on bricks could I use the crawl space as a shelter if I found a way to cover my vents?
A shelter needs to be fit for the people using it or it is next to useless. Constant crying of children along with different levels of sickness in a family group would very quickly seriously impact mental health and reduce any chance of the group surviving in the shelter for the time needed if the shelter had no space for separation to reduce stress.
I have a question that I often think about with nuclear fallout and water collection. Can someone help? I live in the south of France and collect rain water for my vegetable garden. If fallout occurred do I leave the water in to help evacuate the particulates after a month or so, or do I leave them empty as soon as I know about the fallout and just rinse many times? I would think the later. Also will the water containers be usable again? Or would they be too contaminated?
I am disgusted by some of the commentators saying they will go pillage farms in 3 months...all i have to say is- better have your tactal gear on because you "wolf preppers" will be shot on sight.
Wonderful program! How does ventilation work in the basement shelter so you are not allowing access to the radioactive dust? Or, in the post and beam shelter?
QUESTION: How would a structure of hay bales work inside a wooden barn? I'd need to hunker in the barn, which has well water and could have food storage in my tack room. I'm thinking I could hang plastic over all the doors, and block me, the dogs, and the horse inside and wait it out. My barn is two stories with a metal roof. I have no basement (mobile home), or root cellar. THANK YOU!
Hay bales are not dense you would need a lot of them to protect you. Check the Nuclear Survival Skills from Kearny, you have a list of material and you can GUESTIMATE from there. Dogs and horses do make noise, so it will be hard to conceal yourself . Expect visitors if you are in a populated area.
@@bobleponge1301 That's what I thought the answer might be! They are only 'dense' when it is 90-degrees and you're stacking them in the hay loft! I'm not worried about noise, it's not populated. Thanks.
As Bob mentioned, the bales of hay are not as dense as most of the usual materials, but they would be better than nothing. The metal barn will provide some distance and a slight amount of protection, depending on how thick the metal skin and roof are. Minimizing the amount of dust entering would be important ...sounds like you are planning on that. Think about possibly creating a structure that the hay could be stacked on and around...something with some mass that would add to the mass of the hay. With this threat, most of us have to get somewhat creative to get the job done. Let us know if we can help further...way to be thinking!
@@JonathanBJones Thanks so much! I'm watching video #3 now, too. Excellent, helpful advice, and I have to say, the term 'civil defense' is something we used to hear a lot more about, back in the day. It's wonderful that it still exists to help people. Take care!
Sand bags, probably your best bet
It just dawned on me that if I couldn't go outside for a solar charge, for instance in case of fallout, my Jackery isn't going to be worth much. Are there hand crank generators worth the cost and effort? How would you judge such generators? Or am I better off with a million batteries?
A solid cement block measures 15 inches and 5/8 inches total in length, 7 inches and 7/8 inches total in width and 3 inches and 3/8 inches total thickness.
They don't cost much.
Good point...thanks!
Now tripple that in thickness
Super useful thanks 😊 I have a question about water. Say you’ve sheltered in your house, would you be able to drink the water from the tap? Or would that water be exposed as pipes aren’t all in the center of the house?
I have a quite a small house and the only place we could shelter would be an under-stairs cupboard on our middle floor. Thanks for making me think of options
You won't make it.
Luckily for you these people are just fear mongers and a nuclear fallout is incredibly unlikely.
I love that you guys are practicing this and it's great to train for these scenarios but at the same time if we did ever hit that point it would be near impossible for anything to survive as radiation lingers for decades and guarantee there wouldn't just be 1 missile fired so you would have to worry about multiple no-go zones, plus everything being tainted with radiation, so growing would be near impossible the water would be radiated so realistically there would be no surviving even if you had a shelter or a decade's worth of food/water. I mean take Chernobyl for instance, the plants, animals, and everything else there is unusable. Now imagine that on a worldwide scale. Its sadly a lose - lose situation....
Ask yourself if you want to survive first. May not be the outcome you were expecting. I don’t doubt you can survive the radiation and fallout. It’s after that that it gets tricky. Food availability, water purification, possible nuclear winter for four years. Securing food after your supplies run out. Roving takers, violence, things you will question why you survived at all. Mentally can you cope? My thoughts are 99% of us are not. I am a long term prep-per and have a plan for nuclear war. Read “one second after” I think that is a required source for small town government and governance and how fast things can change. It is fiction and based on EMP event, but will get point I am making across. It is incredibly well written and resourced.
I have a serious question.. I’m a farmer with a lot of livestock. My “livestock” is just that, our investment in our future, our money, our life. A nuclear blast would likely kill all we have. We are about 100 miles from our closest base/large town in the MO Ozarks.
What are you going to do to protect your livestock?? Or are you not?? I have the feeling the answer is SOL.. but maybe someone has some ideas?? We have an old stone cellar we are getting ready as a fall out. It’s prepped for tornadoes at this PIT.
I was reading some things about the aftermath of the Fukushima disaster in 2011. Apparently, in some of the books and information detailing some of what went on involved animals in the area regarding fallout. I'm surprised more of the effects of what happened after this event is not talked about more as a more recent point of reference. Granted, it's not a nuclear blast situation, but still an adjacent scenario. Maybe that can be a starting point for you...and the rest of us. There are a couple of documentaries as well. Just getting started in my research with all that. For me it's just something to learn about, but I can certainly understand your concern.
That is a great question...not sure I have any good answers. If you have a closeable barn, that may provide some minimal level of protection and may keep radioactive dust out. But I suspect you have large numbers of livestock...probably not enough protection for many, if it protects them at all. Just not sure there is a good answer, except to hope and pray we never have a nuclear event. Sounds like you have a great start for the family. Keep the wheels turning!
Read about Noah... as a thought..
4h ffa.. confinement raising of show animals..
Save a few but most will probably be lost
My relatives have cattle ranch in Colorado. I emphasize. I would build dug out cattle schutes into the earth and cover the tunnels with the dug out dirt. You could round up the cattle and drive them in and provide protection which would help in the first few important days. I guess be sure and include at least 1 90 degree entrance. Good luck, I think it would be worth the time and expense. Worked on cattle stations around the world. Home is from North Pole Alaska.
@@wmluna381 very interesting, I’ll take a look for some research. We do have a large barn, it does hold everyone. Barely. I know they can all take potassium Iodide. I can’t be the only farmstead worried about this??
what do you recommend for Florida where we dont have basements and you hit water at 6ft down?
Might wanna like that with concrete, one of the best defenses for gamma radiation
I was teenager in late 50s. Everyone talking about backyard shelters. I ask my dad if we should do same…. His take: do you really want to survive a nuclear war? Thought about all I had read and decided “no”.
If we are going to be in nuclear war, let it hit me and my family on the head. I don't want to see my family, kids, grandkids slow dying and sick and food contaminated, water contaminated, no where to live, skin issues, etc., I've read about that is horrible.
Agreed
Problem is, unless you are at ground zero you will not die instantly. You’ll get sick and suffer and watch your family suffer too. Good luck with that warped thinking.
@@pegatheetoo1437 I survive 52 test shots in ñevada in the 50-60 and I'm the only surviver of my family i8 3
@@estherphillips2207 wow….YOU are fabulous! You have great survival skills built right into the cells of your body 💪🏻
Thank you for the video. But I don't have money. These seem pretty expensive to build. Is there something cheaper to build or say in my crawl space? If so is there a video on such.
A better idea if your going to use your basement as a shelter, instead of making it even smaller, all you'd need to do is lay sandbags covering the first floor. So your entire basement would be the shelter and above your sleeping area on the first floor you put a kids pool filled with water for sheiling/grey water use.
Live load of residential floor joist is 30-40lbs per square foot normally, you need at least 3 feet of earth to block gamma radiation. A cubic foot of sand weighs over 100lbs. If you were to stack sandbags on your floor you would overload the joist to the point of collapse.
That is why basement shelters are designed the way they are. Please don’t take this advice, listen to actual experts using acceptable engineering methods
I hope you've got my room (or shed?) ready "Mom and Dad" 😉. I'm getting pretty freaked out. Feeling like a sitting duck in the city limits of a very anti police city in a state where the Governor is a ego maniac tyrant. Looting and more will probably be scarier than a nuclear incident. I just hope it's not too painful if my number is up. I love you guys for all you do. God Bless!
@@TheProvidentPrepper awwwww... tears...again
I have a nice tall basement that can convert into a fallout shelter. I need to make the ceiling radiation proof. What can you recommend other than concrete slabs or thick lead shielding (both very expensive) for an 1800 sq ft basement?
Cinder block (10" or 12" ) fill webs with conrete or dirt/sand. For roof use steel concrete decking bridged acrossed and then more sand/dirt (3') or concrete to a 12" depth on top. Mind the 90 turn going in to prevent Gamma. Be prepared for 3-4 week stay.
@@reidcrosby6241 Thanks. I'm designing it for up to a one year stay.
So what do you do if it's a neutron bomb?
If you are lucky enough to have a basement and do a lot of container gardening, the containers filledf with dirt can also be used for shielding above the basement room your shelter is located. Ours is the kitchen and we have granite counter tops which is very dense. If you dont have containers you can purchase a small childerns swimming pool and fill up. Water is a good shield it is what shields a nuclear reactor on a submarine from the crews quarters. As far as surviving an all out nuclear war Remember the Russians have over 6000 war heads which are aimed at military targets, nuclear facilities and most all large cities for maximum destruction and loss of life. Look at Ukraine war the the Russians go for hospitals, schools and any civilian targets they can hit, dont think its only going to be military targets
So are you saying you can position these containers on the main floor above the area in your basement you are sheltering? I have quite a # of cattle protein tubs currently filled with growing soil and usually put some rock in the bottom to help for draining. Honestly, it sounds a little back breaking moving that weight from my greenhouse into the house, but certainly doable with assistance of our bucket on our tractor. The one thing that always puzzles me though, if fallout is falling on the soil outside, why is there such a significant density required overhead if you are in a basement?
I'm having a hard time understanding. You can't fill your home with soil or water barrels and still live in it. I'd like to be able to find a practical way to shore up the basement now that would stop as much as possible while still being able to create a living area in it. Thanks for any suggestions.
@@janp7660 Our basement is under a tiled kitchen, gamma will penetrate from your roof through the drywall and tile floor. If you have an understanding by events that an attack is soon you can use anything that would stop, shield, or slow down the gamma. Water, dirt anything dense above you. Water is a good shield also, a kids swimming pool filled with water can also be used. So in building a makeshift bunker you need an entry point. So looking at the corner of a basement or even just a bunker made in the middle of a room water in containers stacked on top of each other will reduce the penetration into the safe space. Even furniture, books stacked up would be better than nothing. Heres a good book on Nuclear war survival you may want to get, it gives you all the basics of ideas to help you. Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson H. kearny
@@mylightofhope YES absolutely anything to slow down or shield will reduce the speed of the gamm atoms from contaminated fallout. remember after 7-10 days the energy level will be greatly reduced, why its important to stay in a shelter for that time period. Why its importat to have a geiger counter to know the dose rates or level of the exposer. you can get a decent one on Amazon for about 150 dollars
@@1boatsailor thank you!
.. and for how long are going to be holed up in the dugout shelter? .. 50 years, give or take 5 to 10 more?
You know people have been working and living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki Japan.
Actually, you will need to shelter for about 2 weeks to a month typically, depending on how much radiation falls in your area. The 7/10 rule tells us that after 7 hours, the radiation is reduced to a tenth of the initial value. After 7X7 or 49 hours (2 days), the radiation is 1 hundredth of the initial, and so on. So you can see, the radiation levels drop off quite fast. Movies and other bad stories perpetuate the myth that the world becomes a barren wasteland for centuries...not so...far from the truth. I encourage you to take some modest steps to prepare...starting with the basics and moving up to addressing threats such as this. Keep making progress!
@@JonathanBJones .. TQ for the insights pertaining to this matter. Frankly I prefer to face it and end it as it comes.
@@yeapsoon3115 if you’re lucky enough to die if not, you’ll be blind and messed up. spend the rest your life like that.
There’s a very good book explaining how the U.S. government has spent billions upon billions to build shelters for government bureaucrats, while at the same time, closing down all the public shelters across America. “Raven Rock”.
Question- Does the amounts of radiation increase if there are more then one weapon dropped in same area, within a short period of time? Does this change the amount of time for the fallout and radiation to disperse ?
No one will drop more than one. Don’t need redos on nuclear bombs.
With MIRVs the radiation zone increase the area of contamination halflife over multiple explosions at the same time. The radiation will remain the same from the moment multiple blasts explore. But if it's a follow-up strike on say the Dallas Metro and Dallas is first then a week later ft Worth. The half life will be off by 1 week between the two nuke sites.
It's about the particals generated decaying not that they spread like a virus replicate and create more particles. Those particles are created at the time of the blast and decay thereafter.
Great questions! If there were to be more than one weapon used in an area, it would add to the initial radiation you are subjected to IF you are in the blast zone. If you are not in the blast zone(s), initial radiation will not be a factor. However, if each of those weapons created fallout, there would potentially be more radioactive dust that would fall in your area (depending on how these are carried by winds), thus more rads to harm you. However, most of us will survive if we take a few modest steps to protect ourselves. Thanks for being part of the solution!
@@biddibee3526 that's not accurate at all, take the Midwest for example, most of our nukes are concentrated there, so would be primary nuclear targets, they are also supposed to be able to take a hit, so our enemies, who have enough nukes to hit each of them 10 or more times, probably wouldn't bat an eye about hitting each of them with 2 or more to try to prevent us from being able to retaliate
I live in basement of apartments.3/4 walls are concrete. How would someone do that. I have prepared with heavy plastic to seal window & heating ducts. Any other suggestions.?
Yes that's a good idea have your supplies and that's good
How do you introduce ventilation into these sealed structures?
Keep your air filter on the outside a hand pump on the inside
Ok, now how would we protect our computer to use the flashdrive?
Good info. Y'all got 2 views so i could screen shot diagrams and photos from my phone 😂
Would like to see an update with a sample/ideas for a sandbag shelter that could quickly be assembled inside of a home...not sure how practical that would be or how many it would take to facilitate a family of 7.
Maybe touch on contamination/decontamination topics unless that's covered elsewhere
70s, make sure the shelters thickness is good for all times, g'luck
Thanks for your comment...keep doing great things!
I have no basement and the ground is solid clay, next to impossible to dig and would take forever… what’s a good option for me.. house is wood
I'm looking forward to building a simple shelter in the back of my shop using a wooden frame and sandbags. Should work pretty well and I can remove it when the threat passes.
Yep
I have a question? Your Nuclear Notebook, do you have a video on it or could you make a video on it? I really want to start one but know what to put in it etc! Thank you!
what about a heavy gage plastic membrane cover?
I don't think the question is if you can survive it's more like would you want to.
My problem is there's no good videos on how to make a ventilation system for a fallout shelter I'm probably not the only one but I cannot afford some high-dollar machine that filters the air so I need to be able to have clean air coming into the bunker and exiting
ok. here is the thing.
Something is better then nothing.
Not the best. You could use swimming pool / spa filters.
I remember being taught a blanket at any crack. like the bottom of a door.
Key here is you are going to be exposed to radiation. Just get it as low as you can. And preferably lower then your body can deal with.
FYI you are exposed to radiation daily right now. But they are Alpha and Beta.
Get an x ray you are exposed to radiation. Though it takes a lot of xray to harm you. If I remember correct we were allowed to get 200 rad per year as a rad tech. Which is pretty hard to get.
Radiation comes in 4 types, Alpha, beta, x ray and Gamma.
Anyhow any filtration is better then none.
How I understand it as long as your air intake & outlet have a cover over it. I'd use a vacuum cleaner bag over the pipe. These bags can block tiny particles. Use of a long pipe should help eliminate most exposure? I wonder if a small electric fan would do the job? In my book they have a single pipe with two connections one lower & one higher one where they fit a hand pump. Then a separate out let high up for eliminating oxygen. Both of these have a hood type cover over the top of them. I'd at least put a sock over both.
At the end of this video they address these issues.
@@australianwoman9696 First this couple are great.
I don't recall hearing in the video about filtration. Other then the Swiss system he has.
And frankly the $6000 is way over what I can pay for. its not just budget..But just don't have the money.
Plus that was years ago that it cost $6000.
Also I have no sawmills. Have to have trees to have a sawmill around. I know this will sound impossible to some. But there are no trees for well over 100 miles. Yes there is a single tree here and there. But even those couldn't be used. Just not big enough.
However. there is a way. All I really need to worry about is overhead..Unless it rains. When it rains. it floods. so any hole fills up. And I mean fills up to the brim. There is no way to stop this.
For sure, high end systems are expensive. The hand pump in Nuclear War Survival Skills may be an option. I think there may be some other options that are fairly inexpensive and workable. I will do some looking, and encourage you to do some also. I am confident you can find a good option. Keep making progress!
They do sell filters for vacuum cleaners that will help with radiation I was trying to see if a way of making a handheld pump to pump in enough fresh air and get rid of the stale air
Very helpful video, thanks!
Is the PDF free version updated or just essentially the older book or does PDF have the newer updated info in it. This great video and think met you two years n years ago your looking great keep up good work.
@@TheProvidentPrepper what exactly was updated on the new book?
Where can I find the air filtration design?
Hi there,
Nothing is mentioned in the video about a toilet/ sanitation system. 6 people for 3 weeks is a lot of waste to deal with. ant suggestions please? Thanks.
Survival is one thing. But food, water, maybe heat, irrigation for rain, and yes waste products. Another problem, in a full exchange after the missiles come, bombers will arrive several hours later with some some heavy sh..
Also thanks for the content
Thanks for being part of the solution!
Couldn’t help but wonder if you EMP protected that metal filling cabinet behind you?
No that file cabinet is used bank vault cabinet and is fire rated. It is incredibly heavy. I use it to protect valuables in the event of a fire. It makes them easily accessible so they get put back in there.
Here it is folks I served in the USAF working on nuclear weapons be more worried about every day threats keep your family's safe every day unless you're half a world away the new stuff is SO big we are all in trouble
I live inside a small town far away from large targets where nukes would fall. Their is still a chance my are would get enough fallout to need temporary shelter though. Would bugging out with as much unperishable food and medicine in my wife and I's car to my dads house in a secluded area less than half an hour drive away be smarter than staying in our house after covering all doors and windows? My dads place has an old root cellular. My house doesn't and no basement.
you would be smart to go to your father and speak with him directly on this subject.
if agreeable, you should be moving there NOW and begin preparing accordingly.
@@jhart7304 I'm not going to stop my life based on something that probably will not happen. I live less than a twenty minute drive from his house. My question was if things hit the fan would I have time to get their? Moving out of my house now is a bit extreme.
@@Bland-79 unlikely.
if they even bothered to notify the public, which i find highly unlikely, you would have ~10 minutes or so at best.
@@jhart7304 I live in the Midwest very far from primary targets and a good enough distance from secondary targets. I disagree with you on that. Biggest thing I'm unsure of is when an EMP would be used. Everyone would know when the primary targets get hit. You would hear the explosions across the country just after seeing flashes on the horizons. Secondary targets would take longer. Those are the ones my wife and I would be most concerned about. By what I've heard not all cars would be disabled by the emp not even all the newer ones.
Thank you for sharing this information!!! 🥰🥰
Thanks for being part of the solution!
The government convinced us we can prepare to ease public worry
Hey John...you definitely can prepare and survive. Start with a desire to learn and take some modest steps to prepare. Before nuclear preparedness, make sure you have food and water...that will help you through most crises. Then continue the learning and actions toward preparing for whatever may come, including the nuclear threat...certainly hope that never materializes, but all of us can prepare to be part of the solution, to lead out and make a difference. Keep making progress!
I'm taking prescription drugs on a daily basis to stay alive as is and I can't stockpile them. Besides would who would want to survive nuclear war. I've come to accept death a long time ago. I'm not afraid. In the 50s the government told citizens to clean up yard debris and paint their houses, practiced school drills and sold tiny bunkers knowing full well it was futile. Only served to ease public sentiment and relinquish accountability for engaging in dangerous conduct
I live in a 3rd Floor Condo approximately 40 Miles NW of Philadelphia; Pa. HOW would i protect myself in such a Situation? ANY information would be much appreciated. THANK YOU.
Could you make a "walk-in closet" by arranging 4 bookshelves in a manner that makes the closet walls and stacking books horizontally on the shelves? You could place boards across the top to make a roof and placing tubs of water on top.
Oh, when I was growing up, this is what they told us. Get under your desk. I guess they really didn’t care about us kids back then. I’m 74 years old, so they really did not care about us. Just get under your desk you’ll be fine. Same thing for earthquakes. That was a better risk for the earthquakes and it was a blast.
What about turning off the air exchanger
Question, if we use our homes for shelter can't we cover the outside of our homes with plastic? Or cover up the basement with plastic?
What I've figured out, after doing a little bit of research, is to do the inside of windows and doors, but don't forget about ventilation, so maybe leave a window far away from your shelter, like on the other side of your house, cracked a little so you don't suffocate. Also I think taking tarps or plastic and putting them up going from your roof to the ground at a angle (like 45 degrees or so), would help to keep any fallout from landing and accumulating right next to your house, since most of the risk would be from the dust ....might not be 100% foolproof, but if you can extend that dust another 10 or so feel from your house, it would make a big difference, I forget the numbers, but I think every 10 or so feet the amount of radiation is cut in half
@@dant1239 Thank you DanT this is really good to know but still praying for peace so we dont have to come to this!
It’s sad that I’ve had to seriously look this topic up but here I am
Someone put plastic on my shed dirt floor with plywood over the top and that shed (size of a car garage) molded terribly.
I'm just going to go to a Costco to avoid the fallout. The roof is really high and the distance will provide me with protection from fallout. Same with the walls as long as I am in the center of the warehouse. Lastly, they have bedding, food, and cooking supplies which will keep me alive for 2 weeks. Can anyone see any flaws with this plan? BTW - the Costco I have in mind is only about 5 minutes away from my home.
I guess it would depend on the time. If it's closed, good luck getting in. If it open there will be other people there as well and chaos always ensues. People will want to leave and get to their families, opening you up to contamination.
Don’t forget your membership card and make sure it’s not expired.
Good idea
I doubt they'd let you stay.
@@Natalie-earth I doubt they could get me to go.
This is a really bad idea, the density of the roof is next to nothing and the gamma radiation collecting on top and around the build will pass right through and into your body. The scientific information of survival is freely available online and in layman’s terms making it easily understandable. Please don’t take this advice unless you want a slow excruciatingly painful death from radiation poisoning :(
Here's the thing: what is being forecast is radioactive tsunamis, since the weapon used is in the ocean. Do these shelters provide water resistance?
If you live on either coast you won’t want to live after the event.
So canned food and water stacked up won't be contaminated with radiation but humans will? Am I understanding this correctly?
Thank you
So much