Making basic copper carbonate

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  • Hey guys, in this video we will be making a little bit of basic copper carbonate. To do this, we use copper sulfate pentahydrate and sodium carbonate (which was made in a previous video).
    I will use this to make pyridine from niacin (vitamin B3). The main thing that I will use pyridine for is as an organic catalyst.
    Doug's Lab video: • Basic Copper II Carbonate
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  • @NotSoLogical
    @NotSoLogical 8 років тому +1777

    now i want an advanced copper carbonate

    • @gummel82
      @gummel82 7 років тому +79

      NotSoLogical What about the pro copper carbonate

    • @DrakkarCalethiel
      @DrakkarCalethiel 7 років тому +21

      Zitronensaft Needs licencing... :D

    • @marshallhorton7526
      @marshallhorton7526 6 років тому +53

      NotSoLogical sorry your stuck with copper carbonate that wears uggs and drinks pumpkin spice lattes.

    • @RoflCraft96
      @RoflCraft96 6 років тому +6

      the fuck did you saaaaay ?

    • @aeriumsoft
      @aeriumsoft 5 років тому +5

      copper carbonate EX

  • @victorgigante5374
    @victorgigante5374 7 років тому +570

    I love how blue copper compounds are.

    • @eier3252
      @eier3252 4 роки тому +88

      Nobody:
      Copper compunds: I'm blue daba dee daba die

    • @xtreme1002003
      @xtreme1002003 3 роки тому +29

      @@eier3252 Cobalt: “Hold my beer.”

    • @MICRSCP
      @MICRSCP 3 роки тому +1

      @@eier3252 legendary

    • @miscme6046
      @miscme6046 3 роки тому

      Yes

    • @miscme6046
      @miscme6046 3 роки тому +1

      @@xtreme1002003 yes

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka 5 років тому +125

    "No Smurfs have been harmed in the production of this video."

  • @kjpmi
    @kjpmi 8 років тому +140

    I love copper salts. Copper and chromium, so many vivid colors.(and yes you actually pronounced my name exactly right, you'd be surprised how many ways you can fuck that up)

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +35

      +kjpmi haha i am glad i did. I just rolled with my first instinct

    • @kjpmi
      @kjpmi 4 роки тому +5

      @@kutukutu5821 My last name, I'm guessing. I don't remember...it was 4 years ago, apparently.

    • @user-pr6ed3ri2k
      @user-pr6ed3ri2k 4 місяці тому

      Eat chromate

    • @kjpmi
      @kjpmi 3 місяці тому

      @@user-pr6ed3ri2k I'll give you something you can eat

  • @MrMiki434
    @MrMiki434 7 років тому +113

    5:19 it is awsome to see that copper forms a complex when HCl is added (Cucl2) with a green colour. But as soon as water is added, cooper starts to create a complex with water instead which has a light blue colour

  • @Prototype5151
    @Prototype5151 8 років тому +8

    Both your channel and Doug's are one of my favorites ever. The quality is just outstanding. Great job ;)

  • @Spycyzygy
    @Spycyzygy 8 років тому +23

    Good job Nile, you remembered all of the chemicals this time :D

  • @baardkopperud
    @baardkopperud 3 роки тому +7

    One of the first - if not the first - experiments for my old Salter chemistry kit back in the mid 1980s.

  • @kastynm.9004
    @kastynm.9004 3 роки тому +27

    So my dog usually doesnt give 2 shots about what im watching but hes really trying to watch this... he got mad when i moved my phone & now hes whining because he cant see whats happening😂😂

  • @AntiProtonBoy
    @AntiProtonBoy 8 років тому +69

    that's a really nice colour

  • @GymGirl88
    @GymGirl88 3 роки тому +117

    For anyone watching this from a chemist: remember always add the acid or base into water NEVER water into acid or base (which is what he does here when cleaning, if you have a very concentrated acid or base the mixture heats very quickly)

    • @ariatcg
      @ariatcg 3 роки тому +15

      I'm guessing the HCl is 30%, and the rule of not adding acid to water really doesn't apply here

    • @GymGirl88
      @GymGirl88 3 роки тому +31

      @@ariatcg quite possibly, I'm not questioning his safety skills, note just adding knowledge for others. Since there's no obvious reaction we can assume his acid isn't too concentrated, but it's better safe than sorry

    • @ariatcg
      @ariatcg 3 роки тому +3

      @@GymGirl88 ​yeah i always follow the rules, but i have seen people saying that it only applies to nitric or sulfuric acid at high conc. and the highest conc. of HCl in the lab is probably around 38-40%. Mine is 32%.

    • @GymGirl88
      @GymGirl88 3 роки тому +1

      @@ariatcg even with that level of HCl you can get heating of the solution in my experience. 🤷 But I've also made 50% hcl solutions from concentrated hcl for cleaning teflon bottles and that definitely gets hot

    • @ariatcg
      @ariatcg 3 роки тому +1

      @@GymGirl88 thanks for letting me know :>

  • @Leon21CS
    @Leon21CS 8 років тому +8

    Hey Nile, have you ever considered doing a Q&A about your lab and processes? I would also love to see a tour of your lab space with all of your glassware and the chemicals that you have synthesized. Also, could you look into the synthesis of amino acids using the Strecker synthesis? That would be awesome! Keep up the great work! I love your videos.

  • @RaminousPolacious
    @RaminousPolacious 3 роки тому +16

    While watching the video i asked myself, "where is the blue?". The grey scale mode was active.

  • @utubefrog09
    @utubefrog09 3 роки тому

    I love how you always mention where you saw a particular experiment and give shout outs, that’s awesome

  • @dex1lsp
    @dex1lsp 2 роки тому

    I love that colour so much!!

  • @rittenbrake1613
    @rittenbrake1613 6 років тому

    Oh I love Doug's Lab and Nile Red , Both gained my Love

  • @NikeTao
    @NikeTao 8 років тому +10

    Could you some time do a video (or maybe a series) on basic lab setups? I know you show them in every video, but I think it would make a really nice series if you in detail explained when to use which condenser, when to use a fractionating column, what flasks are used for which purpose. As far as I know there's nobody who would cover these aspects and it's really useful for people who actually want to practice real chemistry.
    Hope you notice this
    Thanks, love your videos!

  • @squish718
    @squish718 7 років тому +2

    this was insanely helpful as a reference for a scientific discussion, thank you so much!

  • @NicholasMonks
    @NicholasMonks 3 роки тому +1

    Just a beautiful compound.

  • @chasestuff2230
    @chasestuff2230 8 років тому +1

    Your videos are very soothing i watch them to cool down

  • @buckhubach2720
    @buckhubach2720 6 років тому

    thanks for adding the cleaning tidbit for the fritted funnel

  • @Moire9
    @Moire9 3 роки тому

    love the color of the pentahydrate, both powdered and aqueous!

  • @pyrofriends2323
    @pyrofriends2323 8 років тому

    Very good video! Thank you!

  • @chemlab9873
    @chemlab9873 6 років тому +2

    I made this basic copper carbonate in the 2 times less smaller scale but the final yield was surprisingly too excellent than I expected. Now I almost have a small tub full of Basic Copper Carbonate.

  • @breaksbassbleeps
    @breaksbassbleeps 8 років тому +2

    Good video. Thought you might like to know that unlike some other compounds, sodium carbonates solubility actually decreases as temperature increases.

  • @Connection-Lost
    @Connection-Lost 3 роки тому +2

    It's funny how in the game Factorio, copper ore is orange-red while iron ore is this color of blue, lol. I mean it does actually help you remember easier, since the products you make are also those colors, and no one said a game where you build factories and trains from scratch, alone, by hand, was realistic.

  • @Riot228
    @Riot228 3 роки тому

    That deep blue is beautiful

  • @friendstype25
    @friendstype25 5 років тому

    It's so pretty!

  • @kingdomofportugal-brazil
    @kingdomofportugal-brazil 3 роки тому +1

    I made a lot of it using this method!

  • @Potentialiser
    @Potentialiser 8 років тому

    Even tho I won't be doing many of these things shown in your videos, in the near future atleast, it's hell as entertaining to watch.
    Good on you, mate.

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +1

      +potential - iser Thanks!

  • @brandondent353
    @brandondent353 8 років тому +1

    you deserve way more subs than you have

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому

      +Brandon Dent Thanks :)

  • @kadenherzog9727
    @kadenherzog9727 3 роки тому +1

    when it was in the paste form it looked like it would taste so good

  • @codyshelton7906
    @codyshelton7906 7 років тому

    Beautiful color

  • @dragonphog579
    @dragonphog579 2 роки тому

    Finally, a NileRed video I need for my school work

  • @mochimoy8865
    @mochimoy8865 3 роки тому

    His tool labs is on another level.

  • @DobleWhiteAndStabley
    @DobleWhiteAndStabley Рік тому

    I love watching your videos. It inspired me to do my own chemistry even though im poor as all get out.

  • @Nexus4582
    @Nexus4582 8 років тому

    Not sure if you take suggestions but I'd love to see some polymerisation reactions.
    I saw someone make nylon when I was younger and thought it was pretty cool.

  • @davidsferrazzo
    @davidsferrazzo 3 роки тому

    Oh yea I totally needed to know how to make this.

  • @VidyUwU
    @VidyUwU 3 роки тому

    It’s sooo pretty

  • @mairisberzins8677
    @mairisberzins8677 3 роки тому +1

    How would you go about making azurite (another basic copper carbonate - Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2 )?
    Is it just a case of different proportions of starting materials or do you have to take another route?

  • @OmegaMegalodon
    @OmegaMegalodon 6 років тому

    it is beautiful

  • @BadPete81
    @BadPete81 3 роки тому

    I remember a time when I was eagerly measuring niacin from beer with CE. Some time and pain later I realized that in nature it tends to be in amide form.

  • @bkm83442
    @bkm83442 6 років тому +1

    You can use baking soda instead of sodium carbonate. It's cheap, available, and dissolves more easily. You end up with the same products, plus some water which gets filtered off anyway.

  • @jade43296
    @jade43296 8 років тому

    Copper has one of my favourite chemical hues. The blue is always rich with depth.

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +1

      +Boltzmann It always has a nice blue color :)

  • @Shruthi.shashidhar
    @Shruthi.shashidhar 3 роки тому

    Damn that's some good yield... Anyway, does the acid you used to clean the copper carbonate breaker wash off with water?

  • @rock.entity
    @rock.entity 8 років тому

    +Nile red what would you recommend in the way of chemist kit for a sort of "starter pack" and love the videos also ways a great quality and educational

  • @holguacamol8408
    @holguacamol8408 7 років тому +1

    will you be showing us both the intermediate and advance copper carbonate next?

  • @jaromschafer913
    @jaromschafer913 7 років тому

    could you use other copper(II) salts in this procedure? here at home i am making some copper(II)acetate, and i was wondering if it will work just as well.

  • @olzoro8985
    @olzoro8985 8 років тому

    I already made some CuCO3, just via CuCl2 Solution but in the same way.
    Love your videos nile, keep up your awesome work! :)

  • @miljanch
    @miljanch 3 роки тому +1

    CuCO3 is my favourite chemical compound.

  • @messiahyah
    @messiahyah 8 років тому +2

    so when is the Q&A video coming? I am looking forward to that!

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +2

      +Imlife I keep forgetting to do it, haha

    • @messiahyah
      @messiahyah 8 років тому +1

      No problem! I gotcha man!

  • @zanpekosak2383
    @zanpekosak2383 7 років тому

    By adding sodium carbonate soulution to CuCl you can neutralise it and that add NaCO3(s) until it percipitates. You will get CuCO3 and NaCl.

  • @scabbarae
    @scabbarae 5 років тому +1

    I just tried to make basic copper carbonate today by adding sodium bicarbonate solution to a solution of copper (II) acetate that I made previously. At first I got what I think was the right compound (instantly saw a chalky blue-green precipitate), but I made the mistake of heating further and it turned black. I'm guessing it converted to CuO.

  • @jakeevans7075
    @jakeevans7075 8 років тому

    Hey could you make some Adenosine triphosphate (ATP). I think it would be a cool thing to make.

  • @yesitsmojo24
    @yesitsmojo24 3 роки тому +4

    School: "Never add water to an acid"
    Nile: 5:24

  • @timetogetcancer7866
    @timetogetcancer7866 8 років тому

    The crispiness of the video...

  • @randomsleepyness
    @randomsleepyness 3 роки тому

    Whenever he adds distilled water 👌

  • @TheManlyDanny
    @TheManlyDanny 7 років тому

    When I made mine I used copper chloride and sodium bicarbonate instead and it came out more green and less blue. I assume it doesn't matter and its essentially the same compound bc I can't think of any other compound that could've been formed but I could've used impure copper chloride.

  • @appledream8573
    @appledream8573 6 років тому

    Nice man

  • @AmericanFishDude
    @AmericanFishDude 8 років тому +1

    Hey I have a question unrelated to the video. I recently bought some IPA and Hydrogen peroxide. After doing some research I found a few websites that said it is possible to make ketones by mixing them, and probably with a catalyst. Could you maybe make a video on how to do this, or just explain to me how? thank you! love the videos keep them up! ill diffidently donate once i get a card!

  • @flowerpower6985
    @flowerpower6985 4 роки тому

    Omg tysm I searched everywhere for this

  • @ATFieldZenkaii
    @ATFieldZenkaii 8 років тому +41

    0:18 In chemical equation You wrote "calcium carbonate" instead of "copper carbonate".

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +32

      +Gingerbread of death noooooooooo :(

    • @pyrofriends2323
      @pyrofriends2323 8 років тому +1

      +Nile Red can you produce CuCO3 by exposing your basic copper carbonate to CO2 at higher pressure? If you make a video about this it can be very interesting!

    • @tjhooker7483
      @tjhooker7483 6 років тому

      Did you know what he meant? Then zip it, Shirley. Maybe he is using the pictured rxn as his experimental template.

    • @deepikanarayan6515
      @deepikanarayan6515 4 роки тому

      Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    • @yingxiawei821
      @yingxiawei821 3 роки тому

      @@tjhooker7483 u idiot. Does he have to zip it?

  • @Himikus500
    @Himikus500 8 років тому

    What vacuum pump do you use for vacuum filtration?

  • @jhyland87
    @jhyland87 4 роки тому

    Is it worth extracting the sodium sulfate that gets created along with the basic copper carbonate?

  • @mtalhakhalid1679
    @mtalhakhalid1679 6 років тому

    Monosodium glutamate or Chinese salt react with copper has a deep blue color i have done it at home

  • @HeaanLasai
    @HeaanLasai 7 років тому

    Random thought: could you use teflon tools in the chem lab?
    PTFE (teflon) is one of those materials in the lab that almost doesn't react with anything. It's not universal but close enough.
    Also it doesn't scrape glass, and it's available in any shape you want it as kitchen utensils.

    • @Ryan-lc4bl
      @Ryan-lc4bl 2 роки тому

      Stirring bars are coated with Teflon, so you're right.

  • @Badplum25
    @Badplum25 8 років тому

    Would this be a double replacement reaction?

  • @rabidchipmunk2641
    @rabidchipmunk2641 6 років тому

    If you made copper carbonate from copper acitate instead of copper sulfate could you then react the copper carbonate with magnesium sulfate to get copper sulfate?

  • @shrikesavadithya6683
    @shrikesavadithya6683 8 років тому

    what about when you clean the vacuum flask with the acid . shouldn't some kind of copper chloride salt form , as it is a kind of neutralization reaction ?

  • @maci00782
    @maci00782 4 роки тому +1

    @NileRed It's possible a video of the synthesis of Copper(I) Hydroxide (CuOH)?Thank you from Italy

  • @nanankhan1
    @nanankhan1 6 років тому

    how to make methylperaben from chemical reaction of methanol +pera hydroxybanzoic acid

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 7 років тому

    So, how come you don't use a wash bottle to wash the stuff off the side of the flask?

  • @upyours5460
    @upyours5460 Рік тому

    Hi nilered, I was wondering if you could do a video on botulism?
    I know it may be outside of the field you work within. It would be neat to see a chemist do a few experiments

  • @AegisBg
    @AegisBg 8 років тому +1

    Greetings, Nile. I have a question to ask regarding a different approach to the synthesis of copper carbonate. I recently conducted an electrolysis of a saturated sodium chloride solution with a copper anode. As you might imagine the anode corroded horribly and the solution attained a bluish-greenish color which I assume is due to the formation of cupric chloride. I initially thought of disposing of this solution but your video got me thinking. Can I add sodium carbonate to this waste solution and expect to observe copper carbonate precipitating on the bottom of the container?

    • @AegisBg
      @AegisBg 8 років тому +1

      Disregard my earlier question as I left the solution to stand overnight and somehow a piece of metallic copper had fallen into it. What might have happened afterwards is the reduction of cupric cations to cuprous cations and given the other compounds in the solution (sodium chloride and sodium hypochlorite) copper oxychloride is a possibility. Another option is copper hydroxide since my solution had a pH of 11. In either case, a precipitate reminiscent of both compounds crashed out of the solution. Could you share your thoughts on this and also tell me whether it would be a good idea to filter the precipitate and test it with some ammonia (if I end up with Schweizer's reagent, then I will be sure)?

  • @sigmundfreud7903
    @sigmundfreud7903 3 роки тому

    Would copper carbonate make a stable pigment or is it too unstable to hold?

  • @shake8771
    @shake8771 3 роки тому

    This a very similar reaction to one I want to try, which uses Cupric Sulfate Pentahydrate and Potassium Carbonate from ash. I was going to make the CuSO4 anhydrous and do a simple double reaction, but this is a bit more advanced than that. Will my reaction work, and what kind of reaction was shown here?

  • @jhyland87
    @jhyland87 3 роки тому +3

    Turns out... if you heat up the basic copper carbonate too much, it degrades into CuO, which is a black powder. I didn't know that, and I tried drying the end result on a hot plate. I kept thinking there were impurities in the copper sulfate pentahydrate or the bicarbonate. I did a couple runs before I was able to find out what it was, lol.

  • @rediempti
    @rediempti 8 років тому +1

    Colorfull FHD chemistry! Sweet :)

  • @arnavbhagwat3163
    @arnavbhagwat3163 2 роки тому

    I Actually did the reation but I found decantation and evaporation works really well cause it give more denser copper carbonate but I used it to make colored chalk

    • @Molko701
      @Molko701 7 місяців тому

      but that would leave any un-reacted copper sulfate (which should be in slight excess) in the copper carbonate. Best to do a vacuum filtration and wash with hot (not boiling!) water.

    • @arnavbhagwat3163
      @arnavbhagwat3163 7 місяців тому

      I was just suggesting a cheaper way but yeah your point is valid for making pure copper carbonate

    • @nunyabisnass1141
      @nunyabisnass1141 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@Molko701i disagree and feel free to tell me how I might be wrong. Instead use an excess of sodium carbonate to ensure no copper sulphate remains, and wash and decant several times to wash away the more soluble sodium sulphate.

  • @benjaminlamothe2093
    @benjaminlamothe2093 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know what the vacuum filter is made of because i had assumed it was a replacable cloth filter not something acid resistant

  • @paulseymaker216
    @paulseymaker216 5 років тому

    Hey I know this is kinda old...but....what of the sodium sulfate in the liquid?
    You vacuum filtered it out, and then nothing.
    There are some cool things that could be done with it, not so?

  • @spikypro747
    @spikypro747 2 роки тому

    Since copper carbonate hydroxide is the chemical component of malachite, would it be possible to grow it?

  • @heh_boaner
    @heh_boaner 3 роки тому

    I'm glad he showed how he cleaned it because it looked like a nightmare.

  • @jhyland87
    @jhyland87 3 роки тому

    Neither you or Doug mentioned that heating it to drive off the water is a bitbof a sensitive peocess, lol. It decomposes into CuO, which is black. I was convinced i had impurities in my carbonate or copper sulfate for the first run.

  • @nunyabisnass1141
    @nunyabisnass1141 7 років тому

    Now this is interesting, because I use baking soda and water to clean sulfated electrical connectors (connected to a lead acid battery of coarse), and that is the exact color of the waste wash.
    Obviously I'm not a chemist, but this will be useful when explaining why i use this technique in the future.

  • @SmoulderDrache
    @SmoulderDrache 3 роки тому +1

    That copper sulfate solution is such a drinkable shade of blue

  • @Lucian4694
    @Lucian4694 2 роки тому +1

    This may be an old video and my comment will likely not be recognized but I just wanted to say that copper carbonate just so happens to make my favorite color! :D

  • @sidneyswerissen3910
    @sidneyswerissen3910 Рік тому

    Hey Nile red .. what is pyridine ? And what’s the link to that video ?

  • @grants5167
    @grants5167 5 років тому +1

    Interesting. I run a plant that manufactures around 20 tonne of BCC a day and we do it different to this. However some of the similarities are fascinating as is seeing the reaction

  • @mitchellmiller9026
    @mitchellmiller9026 3 роки тому

    How can you separate the basic copper carbonate from the sodium sulfate since neither of them dissolve in water?

  • @KowboyUSA
    @KowboyUSA 8 років тому +2

    Already subbed to Doug's channel. Been watching his videos for years.

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat 8 років тому

    How do you determine which solvent to use to clean up since the residue was insoluble in water? Why HCl instead of another acid or alcohol?

    • @CollegeChemistry
      @CollegeChemistry 8 років тому

      HCl converts the copper carbonate into copper chloride, which is water soluble.

  • @s.sradon9782
    @s.sradon9782 5 років тому

    i was procssing copper into copper sulfate using my automated chemical reactor via the; atmospheric oxygen process and after i poured off the solution, the unreacted copper was left for an hour and copper carbonate formation was observed, this method seems significantly more economic and easier to automate.

  • @LEO-xo9cz
    @LEO-xo9cz 4 роки тому

    Can this be used for electro plating?

  • @hcn6708
    @hcn6708 7 років тому

    Can I melt BCC and make it into a solid block?

  • @geniuschemist4612
    @geniuschemist4612 4 роки тому

    Can u tell ionic equation between copper carbonate and hcl

  • @thepracticalscientist7356
    @thepracticalscientist7356 3 роки тому +1

    sodium carbonate is exothermic when mixed with water so it does not really need heating

  • @harveynicholson4620
    @harveynicholson4620 3 роки тому

    How do you turn on the stir bar

  • @nutbreaker22
    @nutbreaker22 8 місяців тому

    First I made that hilarious comment, now I'm making this reaction myself. You live, you learn.

  • @spaceyboi6651
    @spaceyboi6651 8 років тому

    Did you mix the solutions while they were still hot? I think it might decompose while in boiling water.

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому

      +Janusz Januszowski I did mix them while hot. It should be okay.