Making basic copper carbonate
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2016
- Hey guys, in this video we will be making a little bit of basic copper carbonate. To do this, we use copper sulfate pentahydrate and sodium carbonate (which was made in a previous video).
I will use this to make pyridine from niacin (vitamin B3). The main thing that I will use pyridine for is as an organic catalyst.
Doug's Lab video: • Basic Copper II Carbonate
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Nile talks about lab safety: • Chemistry is dangerous. - Наука та технологія
now i want an advanced copper carbonate
NotSoLogical What about the pro copper carbonate
Zitronensaft Needs licencing... :D
NotSoLogical sorry your stuck with copper carbonate that wears uggs and drinks pumpkin spice lattes.
the fuck did you saaaaay ?
copper carbonate EX
I love how blue copper compounds are.
Nobody:
Copper compunds: I'm blue daba dee daba die
@@eier3252 Cobalt: “Hold my beer.”
@@eier3252 legendary
Yes
@@xtreme1002003 yes
"No Smurfs have been harmed in the production of this video."
I love copper salts. Copper and chromium, so many vivid colors.(and yes you actually pronounced my name exactly right, you'd be surprised how many ways you can fuck that up)
+kjpmi haha i am glad i did. I just rolled with my first instinct
@@kutukutu5821 My last name, I'm guessing. I don't remember...it was 4 years ago, apparently.
Eat chromate
@@user-pr6ed3ri2k I'll give you something you can eat
5:19 it is awsome to see that copper forms a complex when HCl is added (Cucl2) with a green colour. But as soon as water is added, cooper starts to create a complex with water instead which has a light blue colour
Both your channel and Doug's are one of my favorites ever. The quality is just outstanding. Great job ;)
Good job Nile, you remembered all of the chemicals this time :D
One of the first - if not the first - experiments for my old Salter chemistry kit back in the mid 1980s.
So my dog usually doesnt give 2 shots about what im watching but hes really trying to watch this... he got mad when i moved my phone & now hes whining because he cant see whats happening😂😂
ok lol
Love this comment🤣🤣
Well I can’t blame him
that's a really nice colour
For anyone watching this from a chemist: remember always add the acid or base into water NEVER water into acid or base (which is what he does here when cleaning, if you have a very concentrated acid or base the mixture heats very quickly)
I'm guessing the HCl is 30%, and the rule of not adding acid to water really doesn't apply here
@@ariatcg quite possibly, I'm not questioning his safety skills, note just adding knowledge for others. Since there's no obvious reaction we can assume his acid isn't too concentrated, but it's better safe than sorry
@@GymGirl88 yeah i always follow the rules, but i have seen people saying that it only applies to nitric or sulfuric acid at high conc. and the highest conc. of HCl in the lab is probably around 38-40%. Mine is 32%.
@@ariatcg even with that level of HCl you can get heating of the solution in my experience. 🤷 But I've also made 50% hcl solutions from concentrated hcl for cleaning teflon bottles and that definitely gets hot
@@GymGirl88 thanks for letting me know :>
Hey Nile, have you ever considered doing a Q&A about your lab and processes? I would also love to see a tour of your lab space with all of your glassware and the chemicals that you have synthesized. Also, could you look into the synthesis of amino acids using the Strecker synthesis? That would be awesome! Keep up the great work! I love your videos.
While watching the video i asked myself, "where is the blue?". The grey scale mode was active.
I love how you always mention where you saw a particular experiment and give shout outs, that’s awesome
I love that colour so much!!
Oh I love Doug's Lab and Nile Red , Both gained my Love
Could you some time do a video (or maybe a series) on basic lab setups? I know you show them in every video, but I think it would make a really nice series if you in detail explained when to use which condenser, when to use a fractionating column, what flasks are used for which purpose. As far as I know there's nobody who would cover these aspects and it's really useful for people who actually want to practice real chemistry.
Hope you notice this
Thanks, love your videos!
this was insanely helpful as a reference for a scientific discussion, thank you so much!
Just a beautiful compound.
Your videos are very soothing i watch them to cool down
thanks for adding the cleaning tidbit for the fritted funnel
love the color of the pentahydrate, both powdered and aqueous!
Very good video! Thank you!
I made this basic copper carbonate in the 2 times less smaller scale but the final yield was surprisingly too excellent than I expected. Now I almost have a small tub full of Basic Copper Carbonate.
Good video. Thought you might like to know that unlike some other compounds, sodium carbonates solubility actually decreases as temperature increases.
It's funny how in the game Factorio, copper ore is orange-red while iron ore is this color of blue, lol. I mean it does actually help you remember easier, since the products you make are also those colors, and no one said a game where you build factories and trains from scratch, alone, by hand, was realistic.
Yes
That deep blue is beautiful
It's so pretty!
I made a lot of it using this method!
Even tho I won't be doing many of these things shown in your videos, in the near future atleast, it's hell as entertaining to watch.
Good on you, mate.
+potential - iser Thanks!
you deserve way more subs than you have
+Brandon Dent Thanks :)
when it was in the paste form it looked like it would taste so good
Beautiful color
Finally, a NileRed video I need for my school work
His tool labs is on another level.
I love watching your videos. It inspired me to do my own chemistry even though im poor as all get out.
Not sure if you take suggestions but I'd love to see some polymerisation reactions.
I saw someone make nylon when I was younger and thought it was pretty cool.
Oh yea I totally needed to know how to make this.
It’s sooo pretty
How would you go about making azurite (another basic copper carbonate - Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2 )?
Is it just a case of different proportions of starting materials or do you have to take another route?
it is beautiful
I remember a time when I was eagerly measuring niacin from beer with CE. Some time and pain later I realized that in nature it tends to be in amide form.
You can use baking soda instead of sodium carbonate. It's cheap, available, and dissolves more easily. You end up with the same products, plus some water which gets filtered off anyway.
Copper has one of my favourite chemical hues. The blue is always rich with depth.
+Boltzmann It always has a nice blue color :)
Damn that's some good yield... Anyway, does the acid you used to clean the copper carbonate breaker wash off with water?
+Nile red what would you recommend in the way of chemist kit for a sort of "starter pack" and love the videos also ways a great quality and educational
will you be showing us both the intermediate and advance copper carbonate next?
could you use other copper(II) salts in this procedure? here at home i am making some copper(II)acetate, and i was wondering if it will work just as well.
I already made some CuCO3, just via CuCl2 Solution but in the same way.
Love your videos nile, keep up your awesome work! :)
CuCO3 is my favourite chemical compound.
so when is the Q&A video coming? I am looking forward to that!
+Imlife I keep forgetting to do it, haha
No problem! I gotcha man!
By adding sodium carbonate soulution to CuCl you can neutralise it and that add NaCO3(s) until it percipitates. You will get CuCO3 and NaCl.
I just tried to make basic copper carbonate today by adding sodium bicarbonate solution to a solution of copper (II) acetate that I made previously. At first I got what I think was the right compound (instantly saw a chalky blue-green precipitate), but I made the mistake of heating further and it turned black. I'm guessing it converted to CuO.
Hey could you make some Adenosine triphosphate (ATP). I think it would be a cool thing to make.
School: "Never add water to an acid"
Nile: 5:24
The crispiness of the video...
Whenever he adds distilled water 👌
When I made mine I used copper chloride and sodium bicarbonate instead and it came out more green and less blue. I assume it doesn't matter and its essentially the same compound bc I can't think of any other compound that could've been formed but I could've used impure copper chloride.
Nice man
Hey I have a question unrelated to the video. I recently bought some IPA and Hydrogen peroxide. After doing some research I found a few websites that said it is possible to make ketones by mixing them, and probably with a catalyst. Could you maybe make a video on how to do this, or just explain to me how? thank you! love the videos keep them up! ill diffidently donate once i get a card!
Omg tysm I searched everywhere for this
0:18 In chemical equation You wrote "calcium carbonate" instead of "copper carbonate".
+Gingerbread of death noooooooooo :(
+Nile Red can you produce CuCO3 by exposing your basic copper carbonate to CO2 at higher pressure? If you make a video about this it can be very interesting!
Did you know what he meant? Then zip it, Shirley. Maybe he is using the pictured rxn as his experimental template.
Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
@@tjhooker7483 u idiot. Does he have to zip it?
What vacuum pump do you use for vacuum filtration?
Is it worth extracting the sodium sulfate that gets created along with the basic copper carbonate?
Monosodium glutamate or Chinese salt react with copper has a deep blue color i have done it at home
Random thought: could you use teflon tools in the chem lab?
PTFE (teflon) is one of those materials in the lab that almost doesn't react with anything. It's not universal but close enough.
Also it doesn't scrape glass, and it's available in any shape you want it as kitchen utensils.
Stirring bars are coated with Teflon, so you're right.
Would this be a double replacement reaction?
If you made copper carbonate from copper acitate instead of copper sulfate could you then react the copper carbonate with magnesium sulfate to get copper sulfate?
what about when you clean the vacuum flask with the acid . shouldn't some kind of copper chloride salt form , as it is a kind of neutralization reaction ?
@NileRed It's possible a video of the synthesis of Copper(I) Hydroxide (CuOH)?Thank you from Italy
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So, how come you don't use a wash bottle to wash the stuff off the side of the flask?
Hi nilered, I was wondering if you could do a video on botulism?
I know it may be outside of the field you work within. It would be neat to see a chemist do a few experiments
Greetings, Nile. I have a question to ask regarding a different approach to the synthesis of copper carbonate. I recently conducted an electrolysis of a saturated sodium chloride solution with a copper anode. As you might imagine the anode corroded horribly and the solution attained a bluish-greenish color which I assume is due to the formation of cupric chloride. I initially thought of disposing of this solution but your video got me thinking. Can I add sodium carbonate to this waste solution and expect to observe copper carbonate precipitating on the bottom of the container?
Disregard my earlier question as I left the solution to stand overnight and somehow a piece of metallic copper had fallen into it. What might have happened afterwards is the reduction of cupric cations to cuprous cations and given the other compounds in the solution (sodium chloride and sodium hypochlorite) copper oxychloride is a possibility. Another option is copper hydroxide since my solution had a pH of 11. In either case, a precipitate reminiscent of both compounds crashed out of the solution. Could you share your thoughts on this and also tell me whether it would be a good idea to filter the precipitate and test it with some ammonia (if I end up with Schweizer's reagent, then I will be sure)?
Would copper carbonate make a stable pigment or is it too unstable to hold?
This a very similar reaction to one I want to try, which uses Cupric Sulfate Pentahydrate and Potassium Carbonate from ash. I was going to make the CuSO4 anhydrous and do a simple double reaction, but this is a bit more advanced than that. Will my reaction work, and what kind of reaction was shown here?
Turns out... if you heat up the basic copper carbonate too much, it degrades into CuO, which is a black powder. I didn't know that, and I tried drying the end result on a hot plate. I kept thinking there were impurities in the copper sulfate pentahydrate or the bicarbonate. I did a couple runs before I was able to find out what it was, lol.
Colorfull FHD chemistry! Sweet :)
I Actually did the reation but I found decantation and evaporation works really well cause it give more denser copper carbonate but I used it to make colored chalk
but that would leave any un-reacted copper sulfate (which should be in slight excess) in the copper carbonate. Best to do a vacuum filtration and wash with hot (not boiling!) water.
I was just suggesting a cheaper way but yeah your point is valid for making pure copper carbonate
@@Molko701i disagree and feel free to tell me how I might be wrong. Instead use an excess of sodium carbonate to ensure no copper sulphate remains, and wash and decant several times to wash away the more soluble sodium sulphate.
Does anyone know what the vacuum filter is made of because i had assumed it was a replacable cloth filter not something acid resistant
Hey I know this is kinda old...but....what of the sodium sulfate in the liquid?
You vacuum filtered it out, and then nothing.
There are some cool things that could be done with it, not so?
Since copper carbonate hydroxide is the chemical component of malachite, would it be possible to grow it?
I'm glad he showed how he cleaned it because it looked like a nightmare.
Neither you or Doug mentioned that heating it to drive off the water is a bitbof a sensitive peocess, lol. It decomposes into CuO, which is black. I was convinced i had impurities in my carbonate or copper sulfate for the first run.
Now this is interesting, because I use baking soda and water to clean sulfated electrical connectors (connected to a lead acid battery of coarse), and that is the exact color of the waste wash.
Obviously I'm not a chemist, but this will be useful when explaining why i use this technique in the future.
That copper sulfate solution is such a drinkable shade of blue
This may be an old video and my comment will likely not be recognized but I just wanted to say that copper carbonate just so happens to make my favorite color! :D
Hey Nile red .. what is pyridine ? And what’s the link to that video ?
Interesting. I run a plant that manufactures around 20 tonne of BCC a day and we do it different to this. However some of the similarities are fascinating as is seeing the reaction
Bruh.
Can u sub to mee
How can you separate the basic copper carbonate from the sodium sulfate since neither of them dissolve in water?
Already subbed to Doug's channel. Been watching his videos for years.
How do you determine which solvent to use to clean up since the residue was insoluble in water? Why HCl instead of another acid or alcohol?
HCl converts the copper carbonate into copper chloride, which is water soluble.
i was procssing copper into copper sulfate using my automated chemical reactor via the; atmospheric oxygen process and after i poured off the solution, the unreacted copper was left for an hour and copper carbonate formation was observed, this method seems significantly more economic and easier to automate.
Can this be used for electro plating?
Can I melt BCC and make it into a solid block?
Can u tell ionic equation between copper carbonate and hcl
sodium carbonate is exothermic when mixed with water so it does not really need heating
How do you turn on the stir bar
First I made that hilarious comment, now I'm making this reaction myself. You live, you learn.
Did you mix the solutions while they were still hot? I think it might decompose while in boiling water.
+Janusz Januszowski I did mix them while hot. It should be okay.