What annoys me most about the whole story is that Liam has repeatedly assured Steffy that he loves her and that he knows that Hope doesn't trust him (regardless of the fact that she was lied to - she will distrust him again at the next opportunity) . Nothing has changed in the relationship with Steffy, just because it suddenly emerges that Hope has been lied to. One has nothing to do with the other and he had made a decision. He stabs Steffy in the back because he was always a wimp.
Like hope cares about Liam being married or engaged - she's SUCH a hypocrite!! 🤣🤣🤣 She actively pursued Liam whether he was married or engaged and later when she was married to Wyatt, she was constantly running to liam and literally crying over how much she wanted to be with him. Damn - and she continues to tell everyone how high her standards and values are 🤣🤣🤣
And also when steffy was married to Wyatt she ran to Liam kissing him and telling him that she love him but that's also ok because the queen can do know wrong give me a break
@@TrickyNikki44 i never said Steffy was perfect ... She isn't. She's made mistakes but the difference is that she admits them - unlike Hope, who cries victim and blames everyone else.
@TrickyNikki44. Wrong. She admits some of her mistakes and she was trying not to repeat them She never said she was perfect though, unlike Hope who still claims to have a high moral code and still blames everyone else You dint say anything bad about Hope or acknowledge that she's made mistakes though so apparently you're ok with everything Hope has done
Hope to liam "you're looking at me just like you did when we exchanged our vows" ( tries to smile seductively) Yeah Hope, that's the look of guilt 🤣. If Hope wasn't always so full of herself, she'd see that.
@@DAVegas-yc8xq And Taylor and steffy did the same thing but of course that's right for them to do it because they are the queens of all that is right miss me with that bs
@@TrickyNikki44 Hmmm... Steffy gave liam plenty of opportunity to make up his own mind and encouraged him repeatedly to do so. Hope and Brooke pretty much harassed Liam and Brooke, in her stern voice, repeatedly told liam he wanted hope
The sustainable line was actually suggested to Hope by Steffy awhile back when hope was feeling sorry for herself because steffy was with Liam and steffy suggested Hope renew her line and stay busy. Thomas suggested all the changes Rick tool credit for and Eric acknowledged none of that. He was too busy being persuaded by Brooke to pick Rick over Thomas. And rick had the worst numbers for the company in years 🤣
@@DAVegas-yc8xq even HFTF it's katie who said what she wanted about the line when she was ceo of FC. Katie had told Hope that she was going to create a line for him based on respect for women, respect for oneself etc. HFTF was given to Hope, the main idea and from the beginning did not come from Hope. Hope just had to put her head up to say that she wanted her to represent her. but katie then suggested that she should develop to women and girls etc etc
@@Hanan2806Steffy at one point had told hope she should get behind an environmentally friendly line and Hope announced it at a press conference like it was her idea. All of the idras of HFTF came from someone other than Hope, and yet she stands there on her moral high ground, acting like she's the person behind the ideas. She took complete credit for everything and doled out miniscule acknowledgment for the design staff and whomever - but they were not miniscule. They made the line and Hope almost destroyed ot more than once
Steffy has manipulated Hope so many times and now Steffy feels wronged. Steffy has gone after EVERY man Hope had, all because Ridge chose Hope's family over hers and Taylor.
Ti be fair, the writers gave Hope all the guys and not to steffy. They made Hope neurotic, self-centered, needy and clingy though so I guess it balances 😅
They never got a chance? is Hope serious? They had 3000 changes. The acted without knowing all the facts but they were not manipulated like Hope wanted to pretend. Bill/Deacon did not cause Hope and Liam's problems. Neither did Rick's lie. Hope amd Liam's immaturity did.
and even today, Hope who does not trust Liam and who is fooled by others. I throw you away and I take you back. Liam who will always love Steffy and Hope whether he is one or the other. the lack of trust, the lack of communication, the lack of faith and the fact that they are still the same again in 2021.
As a mom of a beautiful strong young woman. I would never ever want her to be with a wishy washy flapjack like Liam. My daughter would never go for that buffoon. How Taylor want her daughter to go through what she went through.. ( Her own decision by the way)
Brooke does the same thing with her daughter. I don't know why anyone would want a woman they care about to be with Liam; he will never be faithful no matter who he's with
Seriously, Rick gets the position as President and Hope starts blabbing on about her stupid line and making it all about her! Sure, my brother was given a wonderful opportunity, but let's make it all about me me me me me me me and fool those camera people with my fake a$$ smile
BIill brushed her off like she was a little fly. He only backed down because of Katie and not wanting to cause a bigger divide with Liam. But once again, Hope gets all the credit
Katie needs to listen Brooke before she looses him to Brooke oh wait a minute she does and she almost lost him to Steffy who always wanted a man who wasn’t hers,Steffy will use the baby which she should’ve waited and seen where Liam really wanted to be with her or Hope.
What Hope is: a conceited, selfish, spoiled brat. She has taken over her mother's power games. Steffy should stay out of her relationship with Liam and what did she do? Already forgot that she never trusted her fiancé. Anyway, it was all about the wedding and everything around it. It is more important to her how she appears to the public and is far too immature to marry.
Steffy you can't give your partner permission to spend time with someone else and then tell them don't cross the line. Sounds ridiculous especially when all three of you are weak when it comes to sex, the line is going to be crossed. Silly girl.
What annoys me most about the whole story is that Liam has repeatedly assured Steffy that he loves her and that he knows that Hope doesn't trust him (regardless of the fact that she was lied to - she will distrust him again at the next opportunity) . Nothing has changed in the relationship with Steffy, just because it suddenly emerges that Hope has been lied to. One has nothing to do with the other and he had made a decision. He stabs Steffy in the back because he was always a wimp.
Well said!
I never saw this cabin til Steffy shared it with Liam. Now, everyone goes there. Not so secret after all...
Steffy dropped that bomb and shock hopes perfect world
Like hope cares about Liam being married or engaged - she's SUCH a hypocrite!! 🤣🤣🤣 She actively pursued Liam whether he was married or engaged and later when she was married to Wyatt, she was constantly running to liam and literally crying over how much she wanted to be with him. Damn - and she continues to tell everyone how high her standards and values are 🤣🤣🤣
I remember steffy when steffy was after Liam when he was engaged to hope but that's all good because it's your queen steffy
And also when steffy was married to Wyatt she ran to Liam kissing him and telling him that she love him but that's also ok because the queen can do know wrong give me a break
@@TrickyNikki44 i never said Steffy was perfect ... She isn't. She's made mistakes but the difference is that she admits them - unlike Hope, who cries victim and blames everyone else.
@@DAVegas-yc8xq Steffy only owns her mistakes if she gets caught in a lie
@TrickyNikki44. Wrong. She admits some of her mistakes and she was trying not to repeat them
She never said she was perfect though, unlike Hope who still claims to have a high moral code and still blames everyone else
You dint say anything bad about Hope or acknowledge that she's made mistakes though so apparently you're ok with everything Hope has done
Katie, if you won't be a wife to your hubby, Brooke will. If you get my drift. Wish Steffy would stop making excuses for Liam. He's not worth it.
This hopeles annoyz me i wish steffy could just come back and break the news to wipe off that smugling face on hope
Hope to liam "you're looking at me just like you did when we exchanged our vows" ( tries to smile seductively)
Yeah Hope, that's the look of guilt 🤣. If Hope wasn't always so full of herself, she'd see that.
Brooke acts like she in a marriage with Bill and Katie, butt out Brooke, this is between Katie and Bill.
Pushy, cocky Hope
you too busy planning weddings Hope to even notice Liams wants and needs
Don't forget telling him what he wants and needs too.
@@amandamandamands 😂😂😂 both Hope and her smother tell liam what he wants
And steffy was to busy taking her clothes off for Wyatt and bill to see that Liam was tired of her
@@DAVegas-yc8xq And Taylor and steffy did the same thing but of course that's right for them to do it because they are the queens of all that is right miss me with that bs
@@TrickyNikki44 Hmmm... Steffy gave liam plenty of opportunity to make up his own mind and encouraged him repeatedly to do so. Hope and Brooke pretty much harassed Liam and Brooke, in her stern voice, repeatedly told liam he wanted hope
liam should tell her to leave
I still don't understand what these two women see in Liam..🤔
Damn they stole Thomas and Steffy's idea. They are like the in house Spectras. SMDH
The sustainable line was actually suggested to Hope by Steffy awhile back when hope was feeling sorry for herself because steffy was with Liam and steffy suggested Hope renew her line and stay busy. Thomas suggested all the changes Rick tool credit for and Eric acknowledged none of that. He was too busy being persuaded by Brooke to pick Rick over Thomas. And rick had the worst numbers for the company in years 🤣
@@DAVegas-yc8xq even HFTF it's katie who said what she wanted about the line when she was ceo of FC. Katie had told Hope that she was going to create a line for him based on respect for women, respect for oneself etc. HFTF was given to Hope, the main idea and from the beginning did not come from Hope. Hope just had to put her head up to say that she wanted her to represent her. but katie then suggested that she should develop to women and girls etc etc
@@Hanan2806Steffy at one point had told hope she should get behind an environmentally friendly line and Hope announced it at a press conference like it was her idea. All of the idras of HFTF came from someone other than Hope, and yet she stands there on her moral high ground, acting like she's the person behind the ideas. She took complete credit for everything and doled out miniscule acknowledgment for the design staff and whomever - but they were not miniscule. They made the line and Hope almost destroyed ot more than once
@@DAVegas-yc8xq Oh yeah, it's true that Steffy suggested some stuff to Hope and Hope said it was from her
@@Hanan2806 Hope and Rick were always taking credit for other people's ideas, then they're so self-righteous and entitled about it
Jacqueline macinnes wood
And steffy to busy stilling and scheming to see that Liam really loves hope that's why they are married now
True that!!!! :)
How was Steffy scheming? She was giving Liam time with Hope
Let the good times roll...
Steffy has manipulated Hope so many times and now Steffy feels wronged. Steffy has gone after EVERY man Hope had, all because Ridge chose Hope's family over hers and Taylor.
That's what am talking about but yet again queen steffy can do know wrong
Ti be fair, the writers gave Hope all the guys and not to steffy.
They made Hope neurotic, self-centered, needy and clingy though so I guess it balances 😅
JMW and SC have always had better chemistry together than with everyone else
Hope is absolutely one of the most selfish people on the show!! All about her always
They never got a chance?
is Hope serious?
They had 3000 changes.
The acted without knowing all the facts but they were not manipulated like Hope wanted to pretend.
Bill/Deacon did not cause Hope and Liam's problems.
Neither did Rick's lie.
Hope amd Liam's immaturity did.
and even today, Hope who does not trust Liam and who is fooled by others. I throw you away and I take you back. Liam who will always love Steffy and Hope whether he is one or the other. the lack of trust, the lack of communication, the lack of faith and the fact that they are still the same again in 2021.
Here we go with Steffy playing the baby ♦️
Please Steffy give the stomach a break.
Brooke and Hope did it all the time too when they were pregnant.
See how he hesitated to answer???
that was because he had left Steffy a lot of messages and she hadn't replied and hes feeling guilty
As a mom of a beautiful strong young woman. I would never ever want her to be with a wishy washy flapjack like Liam. My daughter would never go for that buffoon. How Taylor want her daughter to go through what she went through..
( Her own decision by the way)
Nobody cares. This is a TV soap not real life.
Brooke does the same thing with her daughter. I don't know why anyone would want a woman they care about to be with Liam; he will never be faithful no matter who he's with
here it comes again
Hope keeps acting like she didn't dump Liam 😂😂😂😂
liam you are being manipulated by the logans already oh your turn Katie Brooke wants Bill now like daughter like mother
Brooks not katies mom
Brooke and Katie are sisters
And HOE-gan has Np Problem Accepting Bill for Who He Is
I love Rick a very supportive brother and son ❤
What happens to Taylor baby Jack that Brooke took over or adopted?
He is with nick and jackie
Brooke does not have anything to do with Jack nick took Jack and left town
Jack was biologically brooks.
Liam why you didn't tell Brooke that
Exactly Liam needs to stop letting other people think for him
@@tiffanydukes9244 He still does that - ten years later
Seriously, Rick gets the position as President and Hope starts blabbing on about her stupid line and making it all about her! Sure, my brother was given a wonderful opportunity, but let's make it all about me me me me me me me and fool those camera people with my fake a$$ smile
Hope "went up against the great Bill Spencer and won"? LOL
BIill brushed her off like she was a little fly. He only backed down because of Katie and not wanting to cause a bigger divide with Liam. But once again, Hope gets all the credit
This group all o f them are rude they just show up they never call. Lol
Steffy so demanding!! Now that she's pregnant she definitely acts like she owns liam now!!!
They both act like they own him in different scenarios.
Katie needs to listen Brooke before she looses him to Brooke oh wait a minute she does and she almost lost him to Steffy who always wanted a man who wasn’t hers,Steffy will use the baby which she should’ve waited and seen where Liam really wanted to be with her or Hope.
Good for Hope atleast now she is fighting instead of letting Steffy sex her way into a relationship
I don't agree hope needs to grow
What Hope is: a conceited, selfish, spoiled brat. She has taken over her mother's power games. Steffy should stay out of her relationship with Liam and what did she do? Already forgot that she never trusted her fiancé. Anyway, it was all about the wedding and everything around it. It is more important to her how she appears to the public and is far too immature to marry.
false as …...
Steffy you can't give your partner permission to spend time with someone else and then tell them don't cross the line.
Sounds ridiculous especially when all three of you are weak when it comes to sex, the line is going to be crossed. Silly girl.