This is a fantastic lecture Matt. Only few years ago I don't think I would have understood how profound these kind of perspectives are. I find it puzzling that I myself was thinking along similar lines when I didn't hardly have any reading on these topics (Goethe, Organic Philosophy). But I think because I stumbled into a strong habit of employing Archetypal thinking and organic metaphors I kind found my way to a bit of this perspective. Its also weird that very short after I took more of a look at Goethe and was like, "aha!"
I was puzzled why Goethe said colored shadows are subjective, I was not seeing that in experiments. I recently listened to a Rudolf Steiner audio, in it he says Goethe was wrong; to take a tube and look at the colored shadow cutting out the surrounding color. The colored shadow remains colored, it does not disappear. A mystery solved, but a bigger mystery remains. Colored shadows are telling us something important. Open to hear your thoughts. Benham's Disk, after color image, auras, and mental color are examples of how we see color without "wavelength" involvement. As my good friend Thomas Brown says, color has a wavelength but it is not a wavelength.
Steiner tried to show that perception and "reality" embrace each other. The after image is an important part..our minds tend to shut out the REAL perceived colours which are combinations of what comes in and what goes out from us. Many artists show the perceived colours and perceived colour of shadows..many impressionists show this. shadows are perceived as grey when they are not..all colours also interact with each other..observing against different backgrounds will show different colours for the same thing. Practising real observing will reveal these colours. its a right brain thing, try it.
Very good. Was reading Vladimir Propp, Morphology of the Folktale, and realized I didn't know enough about Goethe's Scientific thought. In general Especially interested in the question of scientific formalization and it's relationship to nature or 'the real' or whatever. But yeah Thank you.
Hi Matt, big follower of your blog and channel. I live near Dartington and would love to attend a course of yours at Schumacher. I missed the opportunity this year to pay to start my psychology degree but would definitely sign up, especially if you could come over when this pandemic goes down. Anyway thanks for all your output
Near 45:22 "...the plant is ever only leaf." vs. '...all is leaf'. What are differences in these phrases? What was Goethe's essential idea here? Also, is Goethe saying that endoskeletal beings are 'only ever vertebrae'? What of exoskeletal beings?
Hi Matt. Have you encountered a book called "A Theory of Natural Philosophy" by Roger Joseph Boscovich I just heard of it and dropped it in my A-cart few days ago. And coincidentally... here you are. LOL
@gnshapiro I think in the case of freedom there's something else at work. I like to think of it as the muse, or a muse, perhaps a certain set of angels or beings, depends on your temperament. So when I look at a thing, say a broken pot, and I wonder how or what I should do to repair it. I think, yes there is glue, but what kind of glue? I can then call the hardware store to find out what would repair that material, and maybe I have enough skill so that the pieces look almost seamless. However I know it will never be the same as it once was, without the flaws, and worse if it leaks when filled with water. Something vanished or was released when the pot broke....? Okay, I think perhaps I shall make a new one, but then I am sad for the loss of the old one because it was my favorite and no matter what I do it will never be the same and a new one will only be a different pot. BUT what if all of the sudden I get this idea to use liquid mental to repair the broken pot, Kintsugi. Where does that notion come from? I suggest the muse. So I did not think of it on my owe, but it was whispered to me by another being. I just take credit for it when people say how beautiful it is now. Same with freedom, you think you have it, but it requires, other people, more responsibility and things we can't see to move in the right and predicted direction. Therefore Aristotle was correct, the only place one is truly free is in the mind, but only in order to have a conversation with the muse. In a practical sense it should be applied to copyright. as well, but that's another topic..
This is a fantastic lecture Matt.
Only few years ago I don't think I would have understood how profound these kind of perspectives are. I find it puzzling that I myself was thinking along similar lines when I didn't hardly have any reading on these topics (Goethe, Organic Philosophy). But I think because I stumbled into a strong habit of employing Archetypal thinking and organic metaphors I kind found my way to a bit of this perspective. Its also weird that very short after I took more of a look at Goethe and was like, "aha!"
I was puzzled why Goethe said colored shadows are subjective, I was not seeing that in experiments. I recently listened to a Rudolf Steiner audio, in it he says Goethe was wrong; to take a tube and look at the colored shadow cutting out the surrounding color. The colored shadow remains colored, it does not disappear. A mystery solved, but a bigger mystery remains. Colored shadows are telling us something important. Open to hear your thoughts. Benham's Disk, after color image, auras, and mental color are examples of how we see color without "wavelength" involvement. As my good friend Thomas Brown says, color has a wavelength but it is not a wavelength.
Steiner tried to show that perception and "reality" embrace each other. The after image is an important part..our minds tend to shut out the REAL perceived colours which are combinations of what comes in and what goes out from us. Many artists show the perceived colours and perceived colour of shadows..many impressionists show this. shadows are perceived as grey when they are not..all colours also interact with each other..observing against different backgrounds will show different colours for the same thing. Practising real observing will reveal these colours. its a right brain thing, try it.
Great topic
Great lecture
Thank you ❤
Goethe's work in science included geology, biology, and physics.
That clip of the plant that you included truly made my eyes water a bit. Thanks Matt!
Very good. Was reading Vladimir Propp, Morphology of the Folktale, and realized I didn't know enough about Goethe's Scientific thought. In general Especially interested in the question of scientific formalization and it's relationship to nature or 'the real' or whatever. But yeah Thank you.
Hi Matt, big follower of your blog and channel. I live near Dartington and would love to attend a course of yours at Schumacher. I missed the opportunity this year to pay to start my psychology degree but would definitely sign up, especially if you could come over when this pandemic goes down. Anyway thanks for all your output
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great work, thanks!
Near 45:22 "...the plant is ever only leaf." vs. '...all is leaf'. What are differences in these phrases? What was Goethe's essential idea here? Also, is Goethe saying that endoskeletal beings are 'only ever vertebrae'? What of exoskeletal beings?
Nominalism broke the human mind
Hi Matt. Have you encountered a book called "A Theory of Natural Philosophy" by Roger Joseph Boscovich I just heard of it and dropped it in my A-cart few days ago. And coincidentally... here you are. LOL
Yo right on time for me to get off of work, my man 🙏
Philosphy: eVerYtHing iS LEEEF
PhiLEAFosy
r u mocking it? or do you beLEEF?
Everything is ‘hands’ is another one…
Güt
true freedom is to realize you are not free
music of the spheres
Determinism is always self-contradictory when it tries to speak. On its dogma, you're not free to "realize" or "not to realize."
@gnshapiro I think in the case of freedom there's something else at work. I like to think of it as the muse, or a muse, perhaps a certain set of angels or beings, depends on your temperament. So when I look at a thing, say a broken pot, and I wonder how or what I should do to repair it. I think, yes there is glue, but what kind of glue? I can then call the hardware store to find out what would repair that material, and maybe I have enough skill so that the pieces look almost seamless. However I know it will never be the same as it once was, without the flaws, and worse if it leaks when filled with water. Something vanished or was released when the pot broke....?
Okay, I think perhaps I shall make a new one, but then I am sad for the loss of the old one because it was my favorite and no matter what I do it will never be the same
and a new one will only be a different pot. BUT what if all of the sudden I get this idea to use liquid mental to repair the broken pot, Kintsugi. Where does that notion come from? I suggest the muse. So I did not think of it on my owe, but it was whispered to me by another being. I just take credit for it when people say how beautiful it is now. Same with freedom, you think you have it, but it requires, other people, more responsibility and things we can't see to move in the right and predicted direction. Therefore Aristotle was correct, the only place one is truly free is in the mind, but only in order to have a conversation with the muse.
In a practical sense it should be applied to copyright. as well, but that's another topic..
All is vertebrae reminds me of when god took a rib from Adam to create Eve