Lexus just dropped the ball on leg room on many of these cars it’s no wonder the 4th GS is struggling and I personally own a 2nd Gen myself. Interior Room matters especially for luxury cars and head room as well.
Anton Zuykov it’s true I bet you haven’t even test drove the car yourself, I’ve gone back and forth between my 2Gen and 4th Gen Fact is Lexus screwed up on interior design focused on the looks too much thats why there getting killed by the E-Class and 5 Series.
I'm pretty sure this model has the soft-close trunk latch (even though it doesn't have the power trunk). So you can just lower it down and it'll close itself instead of having to slam it.
Just replaced my 2017 IS200t F-Sport with a 2016 GS350 F-Sport & it's worlds better than my IS. It has 41k miles & I paid $28k. It has the original window sticker & shows it was $58k when it was new. Despite it's age it feels super solid & very well built & rides & handles better than my IS did.
hey congrats, you got any social media i can talk to u on? I got an IS250 2006 at the moment but thinking of selling it and piling up another 10-15k to buy a 2013 gs350
Topher..... my friend works for Car and Driver.. and they want to do an article on drivers who put their blinkers on in parking lots with nobody around..... would you be up for an interview ??
@@drepop803 Haha. Yeah but Topher is the KING at this. He does it EVERY VIDEO. Keep an eye out.. or go through all the old vids.. you will see how religiously he does it. I bet you he does it when he's in his own driveway.
@@drepop803: Not a bad habit; I live in the Greater Cleveland (OH) area, and many drivers here fail to signal turns. I know to keep that "assured clear distance" but still find it annoying and disrespectful of one's fellow motorists.
Lexus recommends premium because their engines use compression ratios that take advantage of the extra octane. No other reason. You get more power and torque from the same engine with a higher compression ratio rather than a lower one. The result is a smoother and quieter drive because you don't have to rev the engine quite as much. If you decide to use regular, the car has to compensate, and the result is a deadened or laggy throttle response, and decreased performance, which of course comes across as less smooth and less fine-tuned.
@@teezee1000 doest this should make me choose the new ES over the GS ? why its matter ? atleast i know that GS design wont change if they kill it, and my car will look as new for 10 years +
@@teezee1000 if you know that they will Kill GS, would that make you choose ES if you are about to purchase one of these ? in my opinion, i would still get the GS because the design wont change.
These are for people who keep cars and buy them not for leasing. We have had our 15 GS fsport in obsidian with the flaxen interior since new. It has 32k now and every time I drive it I feel like I’m in a brand new vehicle.
It led me to get the 21 IS fsport performance in atomic with the red interior, and I have to say it drives even sportier! The V6 is plenty of power for daily use however I wish I waited and ordered the is500!!!
@@brandonwiley6530 No way! How did you go did you get the IS500 yet? Also mate, I have a few reviews on the IS vs GS on my channel, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
It was recently confirmed by Lexus that the GS will be discontinued in the U.S. probably after this year. I currently drive a 2017 IS200t F-Sport & been thinking about eventually upgrading to a used 2016-2018 GS350.
with the AWD model, you get the 6-speed instead of 8, get increased ride height, with F-Sport models AWD removes variable gear ratio steering, dynamic rear steering, and you lose the larger 2-piece high performance front brake rotors. RWD is the way to go with the GS!
@@Globeguy1 It doesn't use the 2 last gears unless you're doing higher cruising speeds. They're mainly overdrive gears so the transmission won't be busy shifting all the time.
@@Globeguy1 It's not about having more gears to row through. It's about being able to stay in the meat of the powerband more of the time. The 8-speed makes it more efficient, quicker & makes it pull so hard above 80. Not only that but it's the same 8-speed from the IS-F which locks the torque converter from gears 2-8 and makes it super fun and aggressive in manual mode. The 6-speed is antiquated and only further dates the 4th gen GS.
2:33....omg that isolation of these Lexus is always fantastic ! IIn my od RX450h i count 2-4 rows on rubber on the front door and even the hood has rubber all around ! when some of them squirks i use silicone spray and all is like new.
Even though this GS platform is long in the tooth, I really like the looks of this car. That infotainment system is very disappointing compared to its German luxury car rivals. At least Honda/Acura is trying to upgrade their systems while Lexus and Infiniti are content with their 5 year old systems. Toyota and Nissan have improved their infotainment but apparently they aren't sharing with their luxury divisions.
Like the video, however, premium gas does not affect smoothness of a car. The only difference between premium and non premium gas is the octane rating. Lexus uses premium so they can use higher compression ratios and thus more power.
In the US, octane is the most important part of premium gas. However, all of the major brands, especially top tier dump significantly more detergents into their premium fuels. It is sometimes double the amount of regular gas of the same brand. This is comparing top tiers fuels, which have a government mandated minimum that even the regular grades meet. If your car is port injected only it likely won't matter much at all and you'll get rid of the car or it'll rust out before the pistons build up enough deposits to increase compression enough to knock. This particular GS uses the 2GR-FKS which has the D4S dual injection system. It is running in direct injection mode most of the time, and only utilizes port injection during cleaning cycles determined by the ecm. The extra additives therefore will help more here than in a port injected engine in keeping in keeping it running smoother for longer.
Just a shame the new GS couldn't be given a good V8 when a '98-00 GS400 and later 430 have the exact same power output but much more torque and all over a wider band. 20 years old. I'd still prefer the UZS160 if I got to choose between that and this.
Did you think the GS350 was plenty fast? I mean, did you find yourself missing the turbo 6 cylinder engines of the competition? I'm thinking of getting a current gen IS350 AWD F-Sport (mostly because of Lexus build quality and reliability).
Although you provided some insights regarding the Premium fuel requirement for Lexus models, I still find the performance improvements minimal when compared to the new 300 HP 3.5 V6 found in the Camry, Avalon, Highlander and Sienna.
Do you think this is roughly 90% of the power of a BMW 340i / Audi S4? I know the V6 can't be compared to the turbo V6s in the latter cars, but I'm interested to know if the difference is 10%, or higher, in terms of how powerful the engine feels.
elusivellama dumbest question ever. Compare 0-60 and quarter mile times. A car that does a quarter mile in 13 vs 14 seconds is gonna feel like a world of a difference in power despite looking like they would be close on paper.
It was likely a mix of that and how absolutely outdated it was, the interior stayed the same for 7 years, and got things like USB A very late, and never got a touch screen at all
@@ManuJohn380 "They have a lot in common. And it’s no wonder, as they share a common Toyota platform." I literally just pulled that from a Lexus website....
@@AmericanBusinessman422 That is for the RX 350, not the GS 350. I just Googled it and it was pretty easy to find. Even then, I have driven an RX 350 and can say that I wouldn't care if it had Toyota parts. It is extremely quiet and rides well, and all the leather feels soft and smooth.
@@ARentz07 I'm sure you think the leather is soft and ride is smooth. I would too if my standards were that low! But I've seen what the Germans are doing. It's not just the platforms that are carried over it's also the parts like the parking brake from an rc is the same as the Tacoma... You don't know luxury because you've never had it.
@@AmericanBusinessman422 I own a Lexus IS 300. I drove the 328i and A4, and briefly looked at the Q50, before making my decision. The IS just felt more solid on the road... the BMW wasn't far off, but I liked the steering in the IS a lot better. And though the A4 had real leather seats, the rest of the interior just didn't do it for me. You can read all about my experience with my IS here: www.clublexus.com/forums/is-3rd-gen-2014-present/888494-18-month-ownership-review-is-300-f-sport.html So yeah I know luxury a bit. I have driven several other Lexus models, rented a few nice cars including a G80 5.0, etc... Can't believe I am explaining myself, lol.
Lukas its not just the looks of the car itself but the overall interior I finally test drove the 4th Gen and I felt cramped inside not as spacious as the 2Gen GS.
I'mJustFarhan ILX competes with IS both being compact sedans. TLX is a mid size sedan. And RLX being flagship luxury sedan, not a sports sedan, it should be compared to LS.
@@Globeguy1 The ILX actually competes with sub-compact luxury cars like the Audi A3 and Mercedes A-Class. The IS and TLX are both compact, the GS and RLX are mid-sized, the LS is full-sized with no Acura competitor (maybe not just yet for now).
I wish Lexus had kept the GS line. They were a beautiful blend of luxury/performance between the LS and IS. The GS was always a beautiful car.
Yes it's sad. They needed an update like the ES.
Really sad that they stopped making this car because it’s awesome!!
engine sound is very re-assuring of its competence. Would be nice to see a re-fresh of this lovely sedan just like the 2019 ES350
Sadly it's gonna be discontinued probably after this year.
@@DisneyMusicVideos It's not probably, it's been confirmed.
4:46 Close 7000 RPM redline wow!!!
Wow that ambient noise difference 1:32
LEXUS
give credit to that amazing mic too. most car reviewer's audio don't catch that
im sold
Lexus just dropped the ball on leg room on many of these cars it’s no wonder the 4th GS is struggling and I personally own a 2nd Gen myself. Interior Room matters especially for luxury cars and head room as well.
Anton Zuykov it’s true I bet you haven’t even test drove the car yourself, I’ve gone back and forth between my 2Gen and 4th Gen Fact is Lexus screwed up on interior design focused on the looks too much thats why there getting killed by the E-Class and 5 Series.
I'm 6'6 and I have legroom...
Dude, idk why I never found this channel before! Love the content!
You're voice is soothing man it was almost therapeutic watching this.
Hahah 😂😂 My voice might not be as soothing but mate, I have a few reviews on the GS on my channel, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
@@SergCarReviews hahaha will do cheers!
@@fernandogordan3393 Let me know what you think 😃😊
The awd system is amazing in bad weather
I'm pretty sure this model has the soft-close trunk latch (even though it doesn't have the power trunk). So you can just lower it down and it'll close itself instead of having to slam it.
Just replaced my 2017 IS200t F-Sport with a 2016 GS350 F-Sport & it's worlds better than my IS. It has 41k miles & I paid $28k. It has the original window sticker & shows it was $58k when it was new. Despite it's age it feels super solid & very well built & rides & handles better than my IS did.
hey congrats, you got any social media i can talk to u on? I got an IS250 2006 at the moment but thinking of selling it and piling up another 10-15k to buy a 2013 gs350
Your 2016 GS is just barely broken in.
@@wanyelewis9667 100k is broken in in these car
Topher..... my friend works for Car and Driver.. and they want to do an article on drivers who put their blinkers on in parking lots with nobody around..... would you be up for an interview ??
Lmfao. I do that sometimes. One of my friends did that and everyone made fun of him but not me cuz I've been guilty of that myself haha. Habit i guess
@@drepop803 Haha. Yeah but Topher is the KING at this. He does it EVERY VIDEO. Keep an eye out.. or go through all the old vids.. you will see how religiously he does it. I bet you he does it when he's in his own driveway.
@@jaylee8703 haha damn lol
@@drepop803: Not a bad habit; I live in the Greater Cleveland (OH) area, and many drivers here fail to signal turns. I know to keep that "assured clear distance" but still find it annoying and disrespectful of one's fellow motorists.
@@071949 so many ppl fail to signal turns. It's like it's cool not to use them.
Lexus recommends premium because their engines use compression ratios that take advantage of the extra octane. No other reason. You get more power and torque from the same engine with a higher compression ratio rather than a lower one. The result is a smoother and quieter drive because you don't have to rev the engine quite as much. If you decide to use regular, the car has to compensate, and the result is a deadened or laggy throttle response, and decreased performance, which of course comes across as less smooth and less fine-tuned.
100% correct
I hear the GS is being replaced with the new es can't wait to see your impressions ! :)
true
As a GS350 owner Im sad about this. I would be interested in a ES if it has a RWD option.
@@teezee1000 doest this should make me choose the new ES over the GS ? why its matter ? atleast i know that GS design wont change if they kill it, and my car will look as new for 10 years +
@@soulshunter87 I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Reread and edit
@@teezee1000 if you know that they will Kill GS, would that make you choose ES if you are about to purchase one of these ? in my opinion, i would still get the GS because the design wont change.
I love this car!!! Always been a fan of the GS’s. This one looks bad ass! And sounds smooth on the road.
Agreed! Also mate, I have a few reviews on the GS on my channel, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
Awesome review! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the RWD F-Sport version of this car with rear steering and the 8 speed auto :)
These are for people who keep cars and buy them not for leasing. We have had our 15 GS fsport in obsidian with the flaxen interior since new. It has 32k now and every time I drive it I feel like I’m in a brand new vehicle.
It led me to get the 21 IS fsport performance in atomic with the red interior, and I have to say it drives even sportier! The V6 is plenty of power for daily use however I wish I waited and ordered the is500!!!
@@brandonwiley6530 No way! How did you go did you get the IS500 yet? Also mate, I have a few reviews on the IS vs GS on my channel, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
Wow I still have my gs will get the is500 soon
Lovely car the GS is! Sad its discontinued in the UK
It was recently confirmed by Lexus that the GS will be discontinued in the U.S. probably after this year. I currently drive a 2017 IS200t F-Sport & been thinking about eventually upgrading to a used 2016-2018 GS350.
Man I just love this car so much mainly because it's going to be my 1st car except mine is gonna the GS350 F-Sport.
with the AWD model, you get the 6-speed instead of 8, get increased ride height, with F-Sport models AWD removes variable gear ratio steering, dynamic rear steering, and you lose the larger 2-piece high performance front brake rotors. RWD is the way to go with the GS!
I like that it's 6 vs 8, less gears to row through. That RWD fsport brakes are indeed sweet, until you go to replace them.
@@Globeguy1 It doesn't use the 2 last gears unless you're doing higher cruising speeds. They're mainly overdrive gears so the transmission won't be busy shifting all the time.
@@Globeguy1 It's not about having more gears to row through. It's about being able to stay in the meat of the powerband more of the time. The 8-speed makes it more efficient, quicker & makes it pull so hard above 80. Not only that but it's the same 8-speed from the IS-F which locks the torque converter from gears 2-8 and makes it super fun and aggressive in manual mode. The 6-speed is antiquated and only further dates the 4th gen GS.
But the Awd model give you all wheel drive
@@ModernDayMixtapes Question about the 6 speed, it doesn't have a lockup clutch inside? If so, that's kind of pitiful.
Great car. The pre-face lift (2013 to 2015) looks better.
2:33....omg that isolation of these Lexus is always fantastic ! IIn my od RX450h i count 2-4 rows on rubber on the front door and even the hood has rubber all around ! when some of them squirks i use silicone spray and all is like new.
Even though this GS platform is long in the tooth, I really like the looks of this car. That infotainment system is very disappointing compared to its German luxury car rivals. At least Honda/Acura is trying to upgrade their systems while Lexus and Infiniti are content with their 5 year old systems. Toyota and Nissan have improved their infotainment but apparently they aren't sharing with their luxury divisions.
Great car. Only thing I can't get past is the front end design.
hes a toyota and lexus fan
@Lexus • no I am not Merc fan I like Toyota and Lexus but I like most cars
Lexus • I’m a merc fan, whats up?
@@Dillon000 Merc are e great cars too especially Angeles versions
william deasy Toyota: The most reliable car on the planet 👍
@@Dillon000 if you say so
Good to see vehicles are still coming with spare tires. I think manufacturers have learned their lessons with fix-a-flat kits haha.
Always loved this car. Wish the new Camry had an RWD variant.
Like the video, however, premium gas does not affect smoothness of a car. The only difference between premium and non premium gas is the octane rating. Lexus uses premium so they can use higher compression ratios and thus more power.
In the US, octane is the most important part of premium gas. However, all of the major brands, especially top tier dump significantly more detergents into their premium fuels. It is sometimes double the amount of regular gas of the same brand. This is comparing top tiers fuels, which have a government mandated minimum that even the regular grades meet. If your car is port injected only it likely won't matter much at all and you'll get rid of the car or it'll rust out before the pistons build up enough deposits to increase compression enough to knock. This particular GS uses the 2GR-FKS which has the D4S dual injection system. It is running in direct injection mode most of the time, and only utilizes port injection during cleaning cycles determined by the ecm. The extra additives therefore will help more here than in a port injected engine in keeping in keeping it running smoother for longer.
I also suggest trying the IS350 F Sport
He has driven IS 350 F Sports in previous videos, though I agree it would be cool to see a newer one here.
ARentz07 Could you link that video? All I can find is him driving the IS200T on the track with no commentary
ua-cam.com/video/ah5mTyS7Hhc/v-deo.html
They're on Winding Road, not this channel.
ARentz07 Ah okay, probably doesn’t make sense for him to make another video on it but I’d like a video with some commentary about it
Nice car and video friend
nice review! sad that lexus killed off GS and can’t get this new anymore. how does this drive compared to the new es350?
Agreed! Also mate, I have a few reviews on the IS vs GS on my channel, we didn't get the new ES350, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
yeah i like my mousesystem also much more than the new touchpad system. So sad they let down the GS , especially the V6Hybrid version!
It's very sad they did! Also mate, I have a few reviews on the GS on my channel, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
Love these vids
very nice!! great video buddy🌟🌟🌟
sure is
This might be my future car but I want me a 2021 next year or a 2020
Just a shame the new GS couldn't be given a good V8 when a '98-00 GS400 and later 430 have the exact same power output but much more torque and all over a wider band. 20 years old. I'd still prefer the UZS160 if I got to choose between that and this.
The GS F has a fantastic V8!
@@TheTopher Yes, but that's an $80k sedan with the 2UR. I'm talking about how they should've kept offering the GS460 with the 389hp 1UR.
Did I just see it go to 6800/6900 rpm?
yea, my 2004 nissan maxima does 6700 rpm and its auto
Yeah. The engine in the 2015+ models is different from 2012-2014. It has a higher redline of 6800 instead of 6600.
Wish it was the Fsport but then again Lexus needs to up their performance.
Bobby T 0-60 in the mid 5 second range from a 3800 pound luxury vehicle with a 7 year factory warranty is pretty good...
Yeah I wish it was the F Sport as well, but then again the driving experience will probably be similar outside of the adaptive suspension anyway.
Gs-f is epic
I want a GS F soooo bad
Did you think the GS350 was plenty fast? I mean, did you find yourself missing the turbo 6 cylinder engines of the competition? I'm thinking of getting a current gen IS350 AWD F-Sport (mostly because of Lexus build quality and reliability).
Although you provided some insights regarding the Premium fuel requirement for Lexus models, I still find the performance improvements minimal when compared to the new 300 HP 3.5 V6 found in the Camry, Avalon, Highlander and Sienna.
Do you think this is roughly 90% of the power of a BMW 340i / Audi S4? I know the V6 can't be compared to the turbo V6s in the latter cars, but I'm interested to know if the difference is 10%, or higher, in terms of how powerful the engine feels.
elusivellama dumbest question ever. Compare 0-60 and quarter mile times. A car that does a quarter mile in 13 vs 14 seconds is gonna feel like a world of a difference in power despite looking like they would be close on paper.
A 340 or S4 would absolutely destroy this car
Used ones are pretty damn cheap, definitely getting one in a few years before they go extinct
"Two new cars a year"?!!
Did the V6 GS not sell because it didn't differentiate itself enough from the ES?
It was likely a mix of that and how absolutely outdated it was, the interior stayed the same for 7 years, and got things like USB A very late, and never got a touch screen at all
İşte istediğim araba ve istediğim plaka 😁👍nasibse olur
2018 Lexus still has CD player ????
Mate 2022 still have it 😂 Also mate, I have a few reviews on the GS on my channel, feel free to check them out if you're interested 😄
Does Lexus pipe in engine sound through the speakers?
Tell me why it sounds EXACTLY LIKE a 2004 Acura TL tho
Can you please review a 2018 or 2019 GMC Terrain 1.5L
Where's the power tailgate
Reason for Premium suspect.
I have a 2018 mica blue with 31000 miles fully loaded, I’ll sell it now as I need a bigger family car. Message me if you’re interested.
How does he get a g force guage?
You can tell that the Lexus line up is based off the toyota counter parts and not the other way around
You are completely clueless. Name a car in Toyota lineup that matches with GS.
@@ManuJohn380 "They have a lot in common. And it’s no wonder, as they share a common Toyota platform." I literally just pulled that from a Lexus website....
@@AmericanBusinessman422 That is for the RX 350, not the GS 350. I just Googled it and it was pretty easy to find.
Even then, I have driven an RX 350 and can say that I wouldn't care if it had Toyota parts. It is extremely quiet and rides well, and all the leather feels soft and smooth.
@@ARentz07 I'm sure you think the leather is soft and ride is smooth. I would too if my standards were that low! But I've seen what the Germans are doing. It's not just the platforms that are carried over it's also the parts like the parking brake from an rc is the same as the Tacoma... You don't know luxury because you've never had it.
@@AmericanBusinessman422 I own a Lexus IS 300. I drove the 328i and A4, and briefly looked at the Q50, before making my decision. The IS just felt more solid on the road... the BMW wasn't far off, but I liked the steering in the IS a lot better. And though the A4 had real leather seats, the rest of the interior just didn't do it for me. You can read all about my experience with my IS here: www.clublexus.com/forums/is-3rd-gen-2014-present/888494-18-month-ownership-review-is-300-f-sport.html
So yeah I know luxury a bit. I have driven several other Lexus models, rented a few nice cars including a G80 5.0, etc... Can't believe I am explaining myself, lol.
So is this the last GS? Or will there be 2019 also.
There's a 2019. It's available on Lexus website - including the GS F.
Red bad
Lexus 🇯🇵🚘
WOW
It only lets me watch in 360p?
youtube is still rendering out the full quality, should be available in like 15 min
Thanks :)
early boi
Pretty outdated.
It is noisy ..we can hear air hitting from our phones.... the interior design is outdated
It is old, amazing how much cars improve with just 7 years
Noisy? Then how come the 70-mph decibel reading is 67 (an LS is 66...one of the world's quietest cars)??
They ruined the GS with the facelift. The 2013-2015 looks so much better inside and out. No wonder the sales went down so much
Lukas its not just the looks of the car itself but the overall interior I finally test drove the 4th Gen and I felt cramped inside not as spacious as the 2Gen GS.
Would you take this or the Acura TLX A-spec?
The GS and TLX aren't in the same segment. The TLX competes with the IS, while the GS competes with the RLX.
If you care about rwd or rwd biased awd then Gs. If you don't then test drive both and decide. I think TLX competes with ES more than GS.
@@Globeguy1 The TLX actually competes with the IS. The Acura competitor for the GS is the RLX.
I'mJustFarhan ILX competes with IS both being compact sedans. TLX is a mid size sedan. And RLX being flagship luxury sedan, not a sports sedan, it should be compared to LS.
@@Globeguy1 The ILX actually competes with sub-compact luxury cars like the Audi A3 and Mercedes A-Class. The IS and TLX are both compact, the GS and RLX are mid-sized, the LS is full-sized with no Acura competitor (maybe not just yet for now).
@ 4:42 that Second gear is so horribly long!!
Omg
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Same shit like the 16 17
Damn Sofyan wasn't playin when he said the K900's better than diss car.
K900 is huge size wise it actually compares to the ls and not the gs.
@@tommy13965 damn well in that case that's even WORSE for Lexus considering the K900 costs the same as the GS for an LS tier car
Devon Gee i see you are a kia lover i cant change that but i would never spend 50g on a kia im sorry but thats just me.
Shiraz A no not because of badge but because its a great overall car and will last a long time.
Shiraz A oh you mean the kia my bad no i just wouldnt spend 50g on a kia, 20k is the max for me if inwere to buy a kia.
Interior looks cheap
RYXZVKI It doesn’t in person, material quality is outstanding.
You’re cheap
Bro, this is probably the worst car review ever and trow away this crap bend the reality camera....
What an encouraging comment.