We played our best football in the last 30 years under Poch - that team is the only one that I believed could beat any side & gave us a thrill to watch.
Sav.. you should've never retired.. you spit facts and say what everyone sees but only a few are brave enough to say. Consider coming back mate.. fans listen to you.. Well done Stel..Tottenham away have the correct narrative that's best for the club and will overtake all the delusional spurs channels sooner rather than later.. For me.. Ange has made some huge errors but I'll give him 2 more windows..COYS!
If it’s true Spurs staff spoke to players about throwing the game that is a serious accusation and surely there are criminal issues in play or at the very least the PL needs to investigate
The delusion amongst our fans is a coping mechanism due to lack of trophies,so everything is overhyped, players ,manager ,it’s just desperate straw clutching
He can’t be forced out unfortunately unless he decides to sell up but I do believe we as a fanbase can bring pressure to force him to change how he runs the football club in terms of transfer investment
One thing I will add, it’s very true that Postecolgou got Johnson for 50m and then Werner on loan but Conte had the same thing during his reign with Richy for 60m and Lenglet on loan… it’s interesting that there are patterns like this
@@Kriz-ff2qy True but he’d still have to agree to it to some extent but he didn’t seem to like Bissouma or Spence and it’s just strange to me a man of his integrity would let so many signings be against what he wants?
'We don't want to be negative ? Why not? If somethings is shit, you call it shit. What's the point in pretending otherwise? That is the core of the problem.... 'being positive' when there is nothing to be positive about. Perhaps fans think that 'being positive' is somehow going to affect what happens on the pitch, by some kind of magic or osmosis.
Agree completely with Savva in what he wants to see. Quality 4 signings in. Not the qorld class signing but the guys under that, that improve our starting 11. Theres no other way to do it. I like the look of Bergvall and Vuskovic, phillips but they are not gonna drop in now and progress the project soon enough to appease the fans. They're fantastic long term signings and you need them but lets get serious and give Ange some of these starters!
Re: Ange post match meltdown vs Man City. I think it is a combination of Ange belief that it is wrong to want to deliberately lose the match but also the occasion/circumstances ruin his parade. You see in terms of Ange influence, he will say number 1 his dad, number 2 is Puskus. However in his autobiography his Pep Guardiola was cited as a direct influence of his Brisbane Roar team and the inverted full back influence him in Yokohama even if he used them differently to Pep. Pep Guardiola is likely number 3 in terms of influence. During the 3-3 draw post match press conference he seemed honoured that Pep not just publicly praised Ange which could be due to politeness but in private as well “ I guess from his behalf, he's always been, not just publicly but privately, always very complimentary about me and my work. Not always directly to me but I've found out through other sources and coming from someone like him I have great respect for.” So you have a manager that strongly influence his career. I believe one of his bucket list he wants to achieve in his career is to win a match against Pep Guardiola. So this whole circus of deliberately losing to City to prevent the title to Arsenal essentially distract him what could have been a dream/goal in life and if he actually won against City and achieved his goal, the Spurs fan would have hated him for that and this is why Ange is pissed as it ruin the occasion for him.
There was interest from the Saudi league for Gabriel at the start of the season, Thomas Partey was playing out of position because of this. My theory is maybe Gabriel was unfocused so Arteta didn't want to play him. Once he came back in, we got back to normal. Like your channel STEL, even though we're advaseries 👍
I disagree with Savva, 17 managers in 24 years is obviously not the managers at fault. He also said the same thing under Conte, that it was not the owners fault then either, I'm starting to think he's a Levy cultist after all!. Finally Ange said the culture in and out of the club was bad and that the club "is built on flimsy foundations". How on earth is that Ange blaming the fans?
Well said mate these couch coaches are all experts the total disrespect that they show this managers is disgusting but you I think he will shove it up their cake hole
This video really annoyed me. I enjoy sending out a bit of a fishing line and having some banter. Im not just saying this, I have disagreed and criticised things both Stelios and Sav have said in the past, Im not a yes man thats just going to agree with everything someone says. But thats why this video annoyed me, I cant disagree with anything those two said. Its exactly the sort of stuff Ive been saying the whole time, and getting into banter wars with people over. The one thing, when Sav was talking about the "I just dont see the direction." Yes, thats exactly what I tell people. "Wait for next season, we are going in the right direction, we will win stuff under Ange." Why do people see that, because I see the opposite, I saw us getting worse over the season. I see a manager that refuses to use actual tactics to out tactic their opponents, meanwhile telling the world in advance what he is going to do, and even the players he is going to use, so it just makes everyones job so much easier against us. I tell you what, if he persists with this, next season is going to be a very long one. I fear for us.
You all should be ashamed of yourselves who the f....k do you baboons think you all are the total disrespect you have shown this manager is disgusting that's why this toxic club deserve nothing I hope he walks on this useless fan base then you can go another ten to twenty years back again
The whole narrative around Conte was ENIC driven,was he offered a new deal?? What conversations were had regarding transfers?? We never had answers to these questions,all we were TOLD was he wants out
I would describe ange as how savva once described hojberg. "For everything good that he does, he does other things equally as bad". I'm not ange out because i leave things to others to make those calls, but, i am starting to dislike him. I find ange to be too arrogant and when times get tough, he doesn't like to take responsibility. Now it seems as if ange is riding on previous conte claims so that ange doesn't have to accept his own failings. I don't like that he went after the fans. As ange is gradually losing the fans, it could reflect the dressing room. He even said a few weeks ago that some players haven't brought into what he is trying to do tactically.
I think Ange has broken Ange, he’s starting to realise this poxy system isn’t going to work in the Premier League and he isn’t ever going to assemble all the best players in the world to have a chance of it ever working in this league.
I don't think he needs the best players in the world. He's got 5th and showed some really good football in season one with what we all know is a team full of rubbish. He needs the time and I mean 3 summer windows to fix this squad
@@foggymartin the problem is mate, after the first ten games, if we took the next 27 in isolation we would be 11th. He needs players absolutely, but he needs to improve MASSIVELY as a manger. Some of the decisions have been absolutely baffling, and some like playing the reserves against Fulham in the League Cup unforgivable.
@@cxv6367 if you leave your parents basement, and stop treating your hand as your girlfriend, you will realise there is a whole world outside those manky curtains.
As a gooner I like your channel but you didn't stop Arsenal winning the league. You did nothing. You lost...Man City may have stopped us winning the league by beating you...At the end of the day you dodged a massive bullet that would have ridiculed for years so be happy with that
I think the panel are unrealistic. We will never get success in the first year of a manager. Theories put forward are unbaked, poorly thought through with knee jerk comments. I can’t believe that somebody who calls themselves a supporter hates arsenal more than they love spurs and wants spurs to throw a game. You don’t know what ange has planned or the details he has in his vision. The panel jumps on one comment ange makes and twist it to prove their own prejudices. Keep calm, have objectivity and above all have patience
Re: VDV at left back and why it wasn't done early. It was due to fitness concern and worry of reinjury. It's different physical requirement for him to have recovery run from the centre back position than him consistently run from number 10 position and then back to the defensive back line for 90 minutes. It seems like only from Man City that he feels that VDV had recover from fitness requirement to play as left back from 90 minute. Here is a direct quote from Ange post Burnley match "Does Micky give you another option at left-back? Yeah, but at the same time I've been mindful with Micky that he's had a couple of injuries and the demands of playing left-back are a lot different to playing centre-back. I just have to be careful - what's more important is what we're trying to build here, and I was reluctant to put him out there for that reason alone. It's been quite a disrupted season and playing full-back as opposed to playing centre-back is a lot different from a physical perspective. But yeah I thought for the last bit of the game it made sense, Skippy was only ever going to be able to play for more than about 60 minutes, he hasn't played for ages. And Radu coming on I thought was very good when he came on as well, so it helped us get over the line and Micky's goal was outstanding."
@@richardjames123 why lie about that after winning the match and the question wasn’t criticising him. If someone asked why didn’t you do this earlier that may have been excuses. The question was just whether VDV was an option at left back and Ange response as yes he was an option but be careful regarding whether he can handle the fitness requirement of the role after earlier injury
@@phantomdasilva I agree, I have no idea why Ange lies and contradicts himself. The pressure has got to him. 16th in the form table in 2024 and he didn't try VDV at LB sooner. He probably doesn't want to look stupid. You just can't trust a word that comes out of his mouth. He's trying to appease the board, appease the fans, appease the media. At the same time, he can't help himself but be reactionary and give in to his emotions. He talks so much and contradicts himself week in, week out. I'm not listening anymore, because what's the point? It's all smoke and mirrors, half-truths and... since Tuesday.. very cryptic messages. We've seen this before.
Spurs plc Financial results - year ended 30 June, 2023 The loss for the year after depreciation, amortisation, player trading, interest and taxation was £86.8m (2022: £50.1m), reflecting the significant and continued investment in the playing squad • Our net debt at 30 June was £677.4m (2022: £626.1m). Over 90% of our financial borrowings of £851.2m, are at fixed rates, with an average interest rate of 2.79%. The average maturity of all our borrowings is 19.4 years, some of which stretch until 2051 • As with prior years no dividends have been paid to shareholders!!
As an outsider looking in I find it extremely odd seeing fans turning on themselves,blaming anyone in sight to justify negative attitudes but failing to have cold hard look at themselves. The object of a fan is to support ur side 100% thru thick and thin and want to win at all costs. To even suggest a season high is losing a game to prevent a rival winning it is astonishing to me. This Savva bloke “who only speaks facts” apparently, simply twists narratives and stats to suit his argument and them to make outlandish statements. 27 games lost is 11th on table. Yes it is if u simply look at the numbers. Something like 12 matches in the 27 were without key players out injured, another 5 with key players out on international duty. What a flog hope he stays in retirement.
While Unai Emery took a mid table team and...... This Ange guy looks exactly the same as Conte vibes in that wanna talk direct rubbish. We lost CL because of silly set pieces and that is BIG money lost, period! It will end in tears I believe and I don't like the way he talks even if others think is cool. Such a stadium is asking for the next level Spurs and that means better not more of the same! Blessings
@@suesmith3744 Take your point. However, I was being ironic. My friend!!! But the way a true Spurs fan from North London for 50+ years. Peace and harmony. Ta ta
Yeah, it was the fans who didn't back Poch in multiple windows (a premier league record).. It was the fans who sacked Jose the week of a cup final. It was the fans who played a weakened team in the league cup this season.
We are 22 years behind, LEVY HAS DESTROYED THIS CLUB
You destroyed this club loser
Levy is the best thing to ever happen to spurs facts
We played our best football in the last 30 years under Poch - that team is the only one that I believed could beat any side & gave us a thrill to watch.
Redknapps team was better to watch.
Harry redknapp was the one.
Sav.. you should've never retired.. you spit facts and say what everyone sees but only a few are brave enough to say.
Consider coming back mate.. fans listen to you..
Well done Stel..Tottenham away have the correct narrative that's best for the club and will overtake all the delusional spurs channels sooner rather than later..
For me.. Ange has made some huge errors but I'll give him 2 more windows..COYS!
You will give him 2 more windows who the f...k are you clown
Savva spitting nothing but facts 💯
What facts
If it’s true Spurs staff spoke to players about throwing the game that is a serious accusation and surely there are criminal issues in play or at the very least the PL needs to investigate
The delusion amongst our fans is a coping mechanism due to lack of trophies,so everything is overhyped, players ,manager ,it’s just desperate straw clutching
The worse thing about these couch coaches are experts lol lol lol they are not good enough to kiss this managers nuts
Levy out
Levy would F you up in a fight waste man
@@Gggg-cq1ih LEVY OUT YOU 5 YEAR OLD
Spursy out
He can’t be forced out unfortunately unless he decides to sell up but I do believe we as a fanbase can bring pressure to force him to change how he runs the football club in terms of transfer investment
One thing I will add, it’s very true that Postecolgou got Johnson for 50m and then Werner on loan but Conte had the same thing during his reign with Richy for 60m and Lenglet on loan… it’s interesting that there are patterns like this
Conte never said every signing that comes through is his, ange did.
@@Kriz-ff2qy True but he’d still have to agree to it to some extent but he didn’t seem to like Bissouma or Spence and it’s just strange to me a man of his integrity would let so many signings be against what he wants?
'We don't want to be negative ? Why not? If somethings is shit, you call it shit. What's the point in pretending otherwise? That is the core of the problem.... 'being positive' when there is nothing to be positive about. Perhaps fans think that 'being positive' is somehow going to affect what happens on the pitch, by some kind of magic or osmosis.
Nice to see Savva back. Always talks sense.
Agree completely with Savva in what he wants to see. Quality 4 signings in. Not the qorld class signing but the guys under that, that improve our starting 11. Theres no other way to do it. I like the look of Bergvall and Vuskovic, phillips but they are not gonna drop in now and progress the project soon enough to appease the fans. They're fantastic long term signings and you need them but lets get serious and give Ange some of these starters!
Re: Ange post match meltdown vs Man City. I think it is a combination of Ange belief that it is wrong to want to deliberately lose the match but also the occasion/circumstances ruin his parade. You see in terms of Ange influence, he will say number 1 his dad, number 2 is Puskus. However in his autobiography his Pep Guardiola was cited as a direct influence of his Brisbane Roar team and the inverted full back influence him in Yokohama even if he used them differently to Pep. Pep Guardiola is likely number 3 in terms of influence. During the 3-3 draw post match press conference he seemed honoured that Pep not just publicly praised Ange which could be due to politeness but in private as well “ I guess from his behalf, he's always been, not just publicly but privately, always very complimentary about me and my work. Not always directly to me but I've found out through other sources and coming from someone like him I have great respect for.” So you have a manager that strongly influence his career. I believe one of his bucket list he wants to achieve in his career is to win a match against Pep Guardiola. So this whole circus of deliberately losing to City to prevent the title to Arsenal essentially distract him what could have been a dream/goal in life and if he actually won against City and achieved his goal, the Spurs fan would have hated him for that and this is why Ange is pissed as it ruin the occasion for him.
We should of bought olise in the summer for 50-60 mil instead of Johnson
Johnson is one for the future
There was interest from the Saudi league for Gabriel at the start of the season, Thomas Partey was playing out of position because of this.
My theory is maybe Gabriel was unfocused so Arteta didn't want to play him. Once he came back in, we got back to normal.
Like your channel STEL, even though
we're advaseries 👍
I disagree with Savva, 17 managers in 24 years is obviously not the managers at fault. He also said the same thing under Conte, that it was not the owners fault then either, I'm starting to think he's a Levy cultist after all!. Finally Ange said the culture in and out of the club was bad and that the club "is built on flimsy foundations". How on earth is that Ange blaming the fans?
Well said mate these couch coaches are all experts the total disrespect that they show this managers is disgusting but you I think he will shove it up their cake hole
Ange may be naive with some of his tactics but he’s not naive about spurs/levy.
Ange is naive is he ? can I please have some of the stuff you are sniffing
@@user-lx8gs1on8z all u ever do bozo is follow me around and comment negatively, get a life bozo
This video really annoyed me. I enjoy sending out a bit of a fishing line and having some banter. Im not just saying this, I have disagreed and criticised things both Stelios and Sav have said in the past, Im not a yes man thats just going to agree with everything someone says.
But thats why this video annoyed me, I cant disagree with anything those two said. Its exactly the sort of stuff Ive been saying the whole time, and getting into banter wars with people over.
The one thing, when Sav was talking about the "I just dont see the direction." Yes, thats exactly what I tell people. "Wait for next season, we are going in the right direction, we will win stuff under Ange." Why do people see that, because I see the opposite, I saw us getting worse over the season. I see a manager that refuses to use actual tactics to out tactic their opponents, meanwhile telling the world in advance what he is going to do, and even the players he is going to use, so it just makes everyones job so much easier against us.
I tell you what, if he persists with this, next season is going to be a very long one. I fear for us.
Compared to what?
@@Gggg-cq1ih I do not understand your question.
You all should be ashamed of yourselves who the f....k do you baboons think you all are the total disrespect you have shown this manager is disgusting that's why this toxic club deserve nothing I hope he walks on this useless fan base then you can go another ten to twenty years back again
Big up savva
Mat was good to listen to i would like to have him be able to talk more tho
He is the only one that talks sense the rest of the clowns talk shit
The whole narrative around Conte was ENIC driven,was he offered a new deal?? What conversations were had regarding transfers?? We never had answers to these questions,all we were TOLD was he wants out
Spurs shd raid Palace and grab both Oliseh and Eze and bring them to Spurs and the team will improve massively!
I would describe ange as how savva once described hojberg.
"For everything good that he does, he does other things equally as bad".
I'm not ange out because i leave things to others to make those calls, but, i am starting to dislike him. I find ange to be too arrogant and when times get tough, he doesn't like to take responsibility. Now it seems as if ange is riding on previous conte claims so that ange doesn't have to accept his own failings. I don't like that he went after the fans. As ange is gradually losing the fans, it could reflect the dressing room. He even said a few weeks ago that some players haven't brought into what he is trying to do tactically.
Great to see Savva back!
After rubbishing Ange, Maz says 'give him the tools'. To do what?
To do what to shove it up your clapper
VINDALOO is a very immature & an irritating troll - he spends too many hours a day making moronic jibes at Spurs.
We had a lap of honor before our last home game that says it all to me
what exactly does it say to you ?
I think Ange has broken Ange, he’s starting to realise this poxy system isn’t going to work in the Premier League and he isn’t ever going to assemble all the best players in the world to have a chance of it ever working in this league.
I don't think he needs the best players in the world. He's got 5th and showed some really good football in season one with what we all know is a team full of rubbish. He needs the time and I mean 3 summer windows to fix this squad
spoken like a true Spursy fan
@@foggymartin the problem is mate, after the first ten games, if we took the next 27 in isolation we would be 11th. He needs players absolutely, but he needs to improve MASSIVELY as a manger. Some of the decisions have been absolutely baffling, and some like playing the reserves against Fulham in the League Cup unforgivable.
@@cxv6367 get out of your parents basement, and stop making love to your hand, there is a whole world outside those manky curtains
@@cxv6367 if you leave your parents basement, and stop treating your hand as your girlfriend, you will realise there is a whole world outside those manky curtains.
As a gooner I like your channel but you didn't stop Arsenal winning the league. You did nothing. You lost...Man City may have stopped us winning the league by beating you...At the end of the day you dodged a massive bullet that would have ridiculed for years so be happy with that
I think the panel are unrealistic. We will never get success in the first year of a manager. Theories put forward are unbaked, poorly thought through with knee jerk comments. I can’t believe that somebody who calls themselves a supporter hates arsenal more than they love spurs and wants spurs to throw a game.
You don’t know what ange has planned or the details he has in his vision. The panel jumps on one comment ange makes and twist it to prove their own prejudices.
Keep calm, have objectivity and above all have patience
Its been 25 years not 1 year of Levy & ENIC
Well said.they have no idea.
Stell, I am cool with the game. I don't blame Spurs at all. We only ourselves to blame.
All you’ve done is blame spurs deluding yourself you had a chance 🤣😂
Brutality
Re: VDV at left back and why it wasn't done early. It was due to fitness concern and worry of reinjury. It's different physical requirement for him to have recovery run from the centre back position than him consistently run from number 10 position and then back to the defensive back line for 90 minutes. It seems like only from Man City that he feels that VDV had recover from fitness requirement to play as left back from 90 minute.
Here is a direct quote from Ange post Burnley match
"Does Micky give you another option at left-back?
Yeah, but at the same time I've been mindful with Micky that he's had a couple of injuries and the demands of playing left-back are a lot different to playing centre-back. I just have to be careful - what's more important is what we're trying to build here, and I was reluctant to put him out there for that reason alone. It's been quite a disrupted season and playing full-back as opposed to playing centre-back is a lot different from a physical perspective. But yeah I thought for the last bit of the game it made sense, Skippy was only ever going to be able to play for more than about 60 minutes, he hasn't played for ages. And Radu coming on I thought was very good when he came on as well, so it helped us get over the line and Micky's goal was outstanding."
Excuses. How can you even believe a single word this liar (and hypocrite) says anyway?
@@richardjames123 why lie about that after winning the match and the question wasn’t criticising him. If someone asked why didn’t you do this earlier that may have been excuses. The question was just whether VDV was an option at left back and Ange response as yes he was an option but be careful regarding whether he can handle the fitness requirement of the role after earlier injury
@@phantomdasilva I agree, I have no idea why Ange lies and contradicts himself.
The pressure has got to him. 16th in the form table in 2024 and he didn't try VDV at LB sooner. He probably doesn't want to look stupid.
You just can't trust a word that comes out of his mouth. He's trying to appease the board, appease the fans, appease the media. At the same time, he can't help himself but be reactionary and give in to his emotions. He talks so much and contradicts himself week in, week out. I'm not listening anymore, because what's the point? It's all smoke and mirrors, half-truths and... since Tuesday.. very cryptic messages. We've seen this before.
Ooh broken Ange already ok let’s all pack up then and go home
Like that lol lol these so called experts on here haven't a clue but I guess when fans a desperate they blame everything but them selves
Savva chatting reality again
Apart from Stelios, a lot of words amounting to very little.
Some fair points but are you judging Munn, Lange and Ange with less than a year in the seat
So this savva geezar is an expert who has he coached where has he payed the saint kevins parish sunday league?
Spurs plc Financial results - year ended 30 June, 2023
The loss for the year after depreciation, amortisation, player trading, interest and taxation was £86.8m (2022: £50.1m), reflecting the significant and continued investment in the playing squad
• Our net debt at 30 June was £677.4m (2022: £626.1m). Over 90% of our financial borrowings of £851.2m, are at fixed rates, with an average interest rate of 2.79%. The average maturity of all our borrowings is 19.4 years, some of which stretch until 2051
• As with prior years no dividends have been paid to shareholders!!
70 odd million of that is to do with stadium debt which doesnt count towards ffp it is absolute spin
As an outsider looking in I find it extremely odd seeing fans turning on themselves,blaming anyone in sight to justify negative attitudes but failing to have cold hard look at themselves. The object of a fan is to support ur side 100% thru thick and thin and want to win at all costs. To even suggest a season high is losing a game to prevent a rival winning it is astonishing to me. This Savva bloke “who only speaks facts” apparently, simply twists narratives and stats to suit his argument and them to make outlandish statements. 27 games lost is 11th on table. Yes it is if u simply look at the numbers. Something like 12 matches in the 27 were without key players out injured, another 5 with key players out on international duty. What a flog hope he stays in retirement.
Savva is a flog
While Unai Emery took a mid table team and......
This Ange guy looks exactly the same as Conte vibes in that wanna talk direct rubbish.
We lost CL because of silly set pieces and that is BIG money lost, period!
It will end in tears I believe and I don't like the way he talks even if others think is cool.
Such a stadium is asking for the next level Spurs and that means better not more of the same!
Blessings
New Spurs supporter from the Midlands?? Sounds like a Brummy to me.
Well you can support Spurs from outside of London my friend … I’m from Bristol , born and bred and have supported our club for 40 + years .
@@suesmith3744 Take your point. However, I was being ironic. My friend!!! But the way a true Spurs fan from North London for 50+ years. Peace and harmony. Ta ta
Chris Cowlin, Butler, Gold ? People like this have ruined THFC.
Another troll DH👆
Ange talks too much. He likes the sound of his own voice.
Ange out for the sht signings .. and stubborn tactics selection ..
The way he handled hojberg and dragusin... shocking ..
Enic out
Your own fans have broken every manager you have had
Of course, it’s ALWAYS us fans 🤦🏻♀️‼️
Yeah, it was the fans who didn't back Poch in multiple windows (a premier league record).. It was the fans who sacked Jose the week of a cup final. It was the fans who played a weakened team in the league cup this season.
@@suesmith3744 yup. You lot have a broken and fragile loser mentality
It is @@suesmith3744
Let me guess, your not a Spurs supporter, says it all with the statement