Automatic uncoupling mechanism

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  • Опубліковано 4 гру 2024

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  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 3 місяці тому

    That is bonkers and so wonderfully simple. Thank you for sharing this!

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  3 місяці тому

      Glad you like it. I have five a few issues on using this with n gauge though. Mainly related to the lack of weight in the rolling stock but it should be a viable solution for OO. I'm still experimenting with it at the moment.

  • @xanx1234
    @xanx1234 Рік тому +1

    Wow .... that's fantastic, well done with the design.

  • @thelittlewesternmodelrailway
    @thelittlewesternmodelrailway Рік тому +4

    That... is brilliant.... I am working on figuring out full automation of my layouts moving forward and this is just brilliant :) Nice working!

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful! Its a nice simple solution and so far is very reliable.

  • @stl1321
    @stl1321 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic idea, thanks for sharing.

  • @thisplayer01
    @thisplayer01 7 місяців тому

    thanks for sharing this inspired approach - planning to do something similar on my H0m layout

  • @delboy1727
    @delboy1727 10 місяців тому

    That's interesting. I have a OO layout, and faced the same problem and wanting the same end result. I too went with 2 permanent magnets, but I opted for a hinge system to move them away from the track, also driven by a servo. Rather than bar magnets, I went for circular magnets - don't really know why - but have found them too work fine and they also allow for delayed uncoupling. Possibly the only drawback is they are only effective over quite a short distance, so positioning the train to uncouple needs to be fairly accurate.

  • @pd1jdw630
    @pd1jdw630 Рік тому

    That’s a genius idea. 👍🏻

  • @jamespierson1299
    @jamespierson1299 Рік тому +5

    Try stacking two magnets (using a total of 4) to increase the magnetic field.

  • @davestrains6816
    @davestrains6816 Рік тому +1

    Very nice!! Thanks for sharing. Dave

  • @JamesPetts
    @JamesPetts Рік тому +1

    Interesting.
    I did something similar (assisted by a product developed by Dingo Servo) but using the linear solution.
    However, an important point to note: you do not need to cut holes in your baseboards if your permanent magnets are strong enough. You can mount them *underneath* the baseboards for scenic perfection.

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому +1

      Thank you. I will have to try it out with some more powerful magnets and see if I can get it to work without cutting the holes.

  • @mysticrailroad
    @mysticrailroad Рік тому +1

    Excellent work! :)

  • @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
    @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway Рік тому +1

    Hi, excellent idea I see Charlie of Chadwich Model Railway used a similar idea

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому +1

      Yes I did watch Charlies video. He is using the electro Magnet system that I was trying to avoid because it has a limit on how long it can be active which is why I have gone with the permeant man agents. Mel

    • @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
      @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway Рік тому

      @The Wolverton Workshop Hi Mel. Yes, I did understand why you made your choice. Happy Modelling

  • @SwanSycorax
    @SwanSycorax 11 місяців тому +1

    Congratulations, this looks a brilliant solution and i would be amazed if you or someone else doesn't come up with a commercially available model. I recently starfted a new N-Guage layout - my first forray back into the world of model railways for almost forty years!! Now i am retired and in my dotage i am enjoying the experience but finding N-Guage quite fiddly as my eyes aren't as good as they were 40 years ago!!! I have been wondering how to tackle uncoupling on my layout as this will be quite important as i am building an "L" shaped end-to-end track loosley based on the Bluebell Railway with Sheffield Park at one end and Horsted Keynes at the other (and missing out quite a bit of the rest!!!). I tried the Peco manual uncoupler but found it nigh on impossible to set up on the code 55 flexitrack and I really don't want long bits of wire sticking up for the manual control. At present the only solution i have is the "great hand" from above with all the issues this brings. I am very interested to understand how easy your solution might be to retro fit to an existing layout as at my age (75) I really don't want to have to start again!!!

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  11 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much. I'm still working to improve my mechanism and have been testing with various different magnets. Hopefully I will have an update on this in the coming months.
      Currently it wouldn't be the easiest solution to retrofit because there is a need to cut large holes under the track but I will consider that and see if the design could be modified for retrofitting purposes.

  • @Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway
    @Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway Рік тому +1

    Awesome :)

  • @CGngauge
    @CGngauge Рік тому +1

    What a cool idea!! I've got the the Gaugemaster EM1's. I haven't managed to get them to work yet!! I have them in position.. just haven't figured the correct wiring to work with my ECOS Controller!! (Not high on the list right now!) But this is a cool idea.. Maybe on another build I'll come back to this video to find out more! Craig

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому +1

      Thank for watching. The control systems for the electromagnet-based systems is a little more complex. Its one of the reasons I looked to use a servo simply because I already have a number of servo control boards to hand.

    • @davidrichie9570
      @davidrichie9570 6 годин тому

      Any chance this will be commercialized so those of us who don’t do 3d printing can use it?

  • @jonnymorrisuk1
    @jonnymorrisuk1 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this superbly presented video. I just have a Graham Farish engine and stock so would probably try the lever approach to lift the coupler, perhaps it can be disguised as a small wooden crossing (I am in the 1930s sort of era). Very early days yet of course, haven't yet got a board or framework, just a tabletop.

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  11 місяців тому

      Thank you very much.
      The lever approach sounds like agood choice, it means you don't have to change any of the couplings and I agree a wooden crossing would be a good method to disguise it.

  • @michaelholmes7172
    @michaelholmes7172 Рік тому +5

    Out of interest would the mounts you have created there be available to purchase at all?
    I think this is a fantastic idea and would love to try to implement it into an exhibition layout I am planning

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому +1

      I haven't made any specific plans to release these for sale but the printed parts would be fairly easy to produce in larger numbers so it might be something I look at in the future.

    • @JamesPetts
      @JamesPetts Рік тому

      Something functionally equivalent, but using the linear system, more powerful magnets and requiring no holes in the baseboards is available from Dingo Servo.

    • @Thunder_Ridge_Railroad
      @Thunder_Ridge_Railroad 11 місяців тому

      What brand are your couplings?

  • @andrewchapman2024
    @andrewchapman2024 6 місяців тому

    Where can I find more info about uncoupling knuckle couplers by rotating magnets.

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 7 місяців тому

    That's the way Rapido uncouplers work, but for cars with steel weights, there's still the problem of unintended car movement caused by the magnetic field, no matter how it is oriented.

  • @paulkandi
    @paulkandi 10 місяців тому

    Wow, great idea, will you be printing theses rotators for sale.??

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  10 місяців тому

      I'm hoping to release the files and possibly print a small run of them once I've got the design exactly right. There are few tweaks left but I should have an update video on that soon.

  • @genejordan9983
    @genejordan9983 Рік тому +2

    Has anyone thought about using electro magnets?

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому +1

      Yes there are a lot of layouts out there that utilise electro magnets and a number of off the shelf products that use them as well.
      I didn't want to go down the electro magnet route on my layout though because there are limits to the length of time the uncoupler can be active as well as the power consumption of the units. I wanted a solution where the uncouplers could be left active indefinitely without drawing any current.

    • @genejordan9983
      @genejordan9983 Рік тому +1

      Ah, good point. I’ve not looked into them yet as I don’t do any switching. But if I build another layout I might use your method, thanks for explaining.

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому

      Your welcome

  • @chrisridd9423
    @chrisridd9423 Рік тому +1

    That's ingenious! Are you making this?

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому

      I am not planning on making these to sell at the moment. I will only be making enough for my personal layout. However once they are installed in the final layout and I’ve had a chance to test them thoroughly and refine the design I may look to market them.

  • @DeclanKennyAR
    @DeclanKennyAR Рік тому

    What a brilliantly simple idea! Would you be willing to share the .stl files?

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому

      Thank you. I've still got a bit of refining to do on the design but once I'm 100% happy with it I will look to share the files. Not sure how long that will be at the moment though.

  • @Itsthegman44
    @Itsthegman44 Рік тому +1

    What size magnets are you using?

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому

      Currently I have been using magnets that are 20x5x2.5mm but I think I could use slightly larger ones without modifying the design. My concern with using magnets that are too large is they tend to pull lighter stock such as wagons towards the uncoupler.

  • @hgr8882
    @hgr8882 Рік тому

    Is it possible to share the 3d print file(s)?

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  Рік тому +2

      Hello. I'm afraid they aren't quite ready yet. I need to refine the design and carry out a lot more testing first. Once I'm 100% happy with the design I will look to raise the files.

  • @johnbrubaker2033
    @johnbrubaker2033 11 місяців тому

    Why not just use electromagnets? There are plenty of options out there and since you're already using an electro-mechanical solution not much has to change as far as your control panel and wiring.

    • @thewolvertonworkshop
      @thewolvertonworkshop  10 місяців тому

      I did look into electro magnets but I'm looking to run the layout from a solar powered system so I want to limit power usage wherever possible and servos are much less power hungry.

    • @delboy1727
      @delboy1727 10 місяців тому

      Electromagnets need a power supply, and they are also limited as to how long you can leave them powered. If you leave them on too long, they can start to overheat, to the point of failure if left on long enough. Also, the proprietary ones that are available tend to be expensive, especially if you intend to include a number of uncoupling points around the layout.