Norway and Germany Send Ukraine Ramjet Artillery Shells

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @The_Judge300
    @The_Judge300 4 дні тому +101

    Not only are Norway sending their ramjet shells to Ukraine, but they have also given Ukraine the permission and technology to produce them themselves on a license.
    Watch out Russia.
    This is going to hurt for you.

    • @christopherescoe5536
      @christopherescoe5536 3 дні тому +4

      Bro if you have a article or post to that information I would love to read it, Ik BAE systems is building a plant and so reynmental is making factories inside Ukraine just like reading positive news about Ukraine

    • @davidr3382
      @davidr3382 2 дні тому +6

      These manufacturers are really getting some valuable real world testing for these developments, whilst at the same time helping Ukraine. I hope they get enough shells to really help Ukraine not just with the trials, but pushing Russians further back.

    • @michaelsamuel9917
      @michaelsamuel9917 2 дні тому

      Pretty soon Russia will soon copy them when the duds that didn't explode....Russia has already sent a few captured Javelin anti tank missiles to Iran, Iran has a good record of copying western high tech weapons...PS I am not pro Russian.

    • @mortenBP
      @mortenBP 2 дні тому +4

      @@christopherescoe5536
      This is correct. Had not heard this myself, did a quick search and got it confirmed. This was announced in August of 2024 and it is NAMMO who are sharing their "recipe" with Ukraine.
      It is unknown when this will be up and running, but the article says the Norwegian technicians will walk the Ukrainian technicians through the process on remote by using VR tech, which I find particularly cool.

    • @KjetilBalstad
      @KjetilBalstad 11 годин тому +2

      Also committed an initial 43 million Euros to keep Ukraine's domestic industrial military complex running day to day as Ukraine had issues paying for it.

  • @craigsavarese8631
    @craigsavarese8631 4 дні тому +54

    I saw a story this summer that the UK was far into fielding a laser based ABM system (2nd generation??) and were entertaining the idea of field testing it in Ukraine. I hope they follow through on that.

    • @51madmitch
      @51madmitch 4 дні тому

      Yes it was working well, and field test in Ukraine would have been a sensible choice, but sadly the U.K. government and weapons manufacturers are so bogged down by red tape and old outdated processes, they can’t think outside the box, so don’t hold your breath, 💪🇺🇦🇺🇦💪

    • @chrissmith2114
      @chrissmith2114 4 дні тому +6

      System will not be allowed anywhere near frontline where Russia may capture it...

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 4 дні тому +5

      @@chrissmith2114 Given Russia's claims to have weapons that defy physics, I wouldn't have thought a laser weapon would hold any secrets. Although I do agree with what you say. I seriously doubt Russia has weapons that defy physics. The only thing I've so far seen from Russia are weapons and tactics that defy logic....

    • @bsastarfire250
      @bsastarfire250 4 дні тому

      Laser weapons only work at short range .

    • @BrownBabyJesus
      @BrownBabyJesus 4 дні тому +3

      Most people in the UK didn't know where Ukraine was pre-2022, the fact you hope more of your money gets sent to the "blackhole" as they now call it, is a bit silly.

  • @MrYoubrian
    @MrYoubrian 4 дні тому +12

    Navy Vet here. I was part of 'Operation Reach Out and Touch Someone', North Africa.

  • @JMAC479
    @JMAC479 4 дні тому +30

    "Reach out and touch someone"! lol Long distance was a thing. Ran up an $800 phone bill because my girlfriend was in the next town.

    • @kenjones102
      @kenjones102 4 дні тому +3

      Touching.

    • @theodorgiosan2570
      @theodorgiosan2570 4 дні тому +4

      When my family moved into a new house when I was 4 years old it still had a party line with the neighbors house. And this was in 2004. But the place that I grew up was behind the times. I never even saw a DVD in a video rental store until at least 2010. Only recently I was made aware that many people were using them before then.

    • @Alan_Watkin
      @Alan_Watkin 4 дні тому +3

      @@theodorgiosan2570 where did you live, North Korea? 🤭

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 4 дні тому +1

      You can buy a lot of fuel for 800 dollars.

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 4 дні тому +1

      more like your phone provider was touching himself after you gave him those $800

  • @nick4819
    @nick4819 4 дні тому +40

    Lockheed is working on a new HIMARS GMLRS with extended range. Supposedly doubling the range of the current missiles.

    • @ThePeter123a
      @ThePeter123a 4 дні тому +3

      Lockhead wants to develop a more extensive version of the PrSM, which is also powered by RamJet and should have a range of 1000 km.

    • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
      @gustavmeyrink_2.0 4 дні тому +3

      Diehl Defence is working on an extended range missile for IRIS-T more than doubling the range and bringing it very close to Patriot.
      The price of a system remains about the same ie $180 million compared to >$1 billion for a Patriot system.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 4 дні тому +2

      ER-GMLRS

    • @paperburn
      @paperburn 4 дні тому

      @@ThePeter123a change that to is

    • @rupertrussell1
      @rupertrussell1 4 дні тому

      @@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Does that mean the Russians will have it?

  • @T.walter-o8s
    @T.walter-o8s 3 дні тому +6

    The VOLCANO shells waste so much room on rocket fuel that the amount of payload explosive isn't even guaranteed to destroy a tank upon immediate impact. The new Rheinmetall shell is part of the three-step range improvement concept of their joint 'ATI' artillery system built with Israeli Elbit. In the first step they just use a new propellant that's being screwed into the back of the shell and creates about 10% propulsion power, in combination with new V-LAP ammo that is mostly basebleed, but changes into a miniaturized RF assistance for a small segment of the flight when this is particularly effective. That alone increases range to 67km. In step two a larger pressure chamber and more propellant is added, increasing range to at least 75km. The last upgrade includes replacing the L/52 with an L/60 barrel, further enlargement of the pressure chamber and V-LAP rounds with a hardened shell to survive the increase in pressure. Original statements spoke of 83 km range.

  • @PierceStudent
    @PierceStudent 4 дні тому +25

    Thank you for the video. Good presentation. Close in artillery systems have become less effective and dangerous to operate with the advent of drones. These longer extra distance artillery shells are going to be godsend for the Ukraine.

    • @juhajuntunen7866
      @juhajuntunen7866 4 дні тому +1

      Yeah, less than 20 km from enemy is lethal nowadays, small drones are too numerous, bigger are still rare but how long? 50 km away looks better and still you have some distance beyond frontline.

    • @PierceStudent
      @PierceStudent 4 дні тому

      @@juhajuntunen7866 - Thanks for the thumbs up. I wonder what is being developed along the lines of "radar" to search for battlefield drone. Something along the lines to watch for drones that are 5 to 10 kilometers away, etc. Something to give the soldier time to take defensive action.

  • @ulfpe
    @ulfpe 4 дні тому +18

    The issue is cost, another lesson from the Ukraine war. Numbers matters a lot

    • @Jay.Kellett
      @Jay.Kellett 4 дні тому

      Cheap drone has entered the chat.

    • @ploed
      @ploed 3 дні тому

      @@Jay.Kellett Oversized Microwave entered the Chat,

    • @KjetilBalstad
      @KjetilBalstad 11 годин тому

      True, but there is a correlation between number of shots fired and available platforms to fire them. If A has 10 artillery canons with 100K shells, while B has 100 artillery canons with 1M shells it's quite obvious A is in trouble. We could donate another 10 artillery pieces, but still don't have more than another 100K shells, and production takes time, so A is still in trouble. So, we send them 100 high precision long rang Ramjet artillery shells and counter battery radars. With 990K shells still in storage, this now wont help B all that much as they have nothing to fire with, while A can spend those 100K ordinary shells on closer targets, no longer in range of enemy artillery.
      Obviously this is a very simplified representation, but you get the point.

  • @Artsyca
    @Artsyca 4 дні тому +13

    I got that reference right away bro word. Don’t start digging yourself into the ground too soon we’ve still got plenty of fight left in us.

  • @paulk7124
    @paulk7124 4 дні тому +5

    Yeah thanks... now I got that "Reach out and touch somebody" song stuck in my head.

  • @Jhossack
    @Jhossack 4 дні тому +24

    Your speech cadence is way more relaxed and normal- all good

  • @jameshorn270
    @jameshorn270 3 дні тому +9

    What is the warhead size of the new rounds. A standard 155 HE round carries an explosive load weighing 95 pounds, whereas a 105 mm standard HE round carries about a 25 pound explosive load. If the reamjets shells are the same length as the standard shells, there has to be a decrease in the explosive weight.

    • @donaldclifford5763
      @donaldclifford5763 День тому

      They point this out in the vid. Tradeoffs with range, and I suppose, accuracy, to compensate for size of warhead.

    • @langweilerkanal7894
      @langweilerkanal7894 9 годин тому

      Na man. 95 pounds is the weight if the entire projectile. U got around 20 pounds of explosive filler in an 155mm shell.

    • @jameshorn270
      @jameshorn270 4 години тому

      @@langweilerkanal7894 Sorry, you are right. And the 105 mm has about 15 pounds of explosive. Still, I did not hear anything about how much explosive the ramjet round delivers.

    • @langweilerkanal7894
      @langweilerkanal7894 4 години тому

      @@jameshorn270 No doubt that it will be less.

  • @peterryan4851
    @peterryan4851 4 дні тому +7

    Artillery has made an impact in this high intensity conflict on the basis that neither side has definitive air superiority.
    We shouldn’t assume any future conflict with China or other country would start out like this. As NATO/the West would start out with considerable air power

  • @redrussianf0x
    @redrussianf0x 3 дні тому

    can't tell you how much I appreciate your latest videos. perfect relaxed on-point narration and well structured. the occasional joke fits in perfectly. greetings from Germany

  • @TheRowdyHouseCat
    @TheRowdyHouseCat 4 дні тому +5

    Good video, caught my attention. Ram jet shells, wow. Looks like you have a lot of other good content too. So I subscribed

  • @ivancho5854
    @ivancho5854 4 дні тому +5

    I'm pretty astonished that this is possible in a 155mm shell. Also I'm surprised that larger calibre artillery hasn't been resurrected by now. I think that 8" and 10" could still have an invaluable role to play.
    Thanks for this video. I haven't heard of this technology on any other channels. 👍 🇺🇦🇬🇧

    • @Netzjargon
      @Netzjargon 4 дні тому +4

      ganz einfach....größere kaliber haben zu viele nachteile und der vorteil ist zu gering diesen gegenüber

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 4 дні тому +3

      The Germans were shooting of trial ramjet 150mm and 28cm rounds in ww2 called the Trommsdorff shells named after its inventor

    • @Netzjargon
      @Netzjargon 4 дні тому +1

      @@williamzk9083 ja aber größere geschosse haben eben auch viele nachteile....

    • @corausr
      @corausr 4 дні тому +1

      @@Netzjargon Was neben gewicht wäre noch nen nachteil? Und ich denke da an die 7 tonnen schwere munition des schweren Gustav.

    • @ivancho5854
      @ivancho5854 4 дні тому

      The projectile weight goes up exponentially with an increase in calibre as long as the proportion of length to calibre remains constant. This is particularly useful when targeting say trenches or when using complex payloads such as ramjet powered shells. I don't imagine that a 155mm ramjet shell would contain much explosives, whereas a 8", 10" or 12" would still pack quite a punch.
      All the best.

  • @davest6044
    @davest6044 4 дні тому +3

    Hold it together, Wes! 😂 thanks for the great work

  • @peterkratoska4524
    @peterkratoska4524 4 дні тому +30

    I get that slogan. Back in the early 80s the US got involved in Lebanon and had a battle ship use its big guns to bomb the Shouf mtns in the Bekaa valley. It was one of the last time that big guns on a warship were used, and they made huge craters in the intended target.
    The operation was called "Reach out and touch someone".
    Unfortunately the blowback was the Beirut Marine barracks bombing in 83.

    • @kennethhanes5438
      @kennethhanes5438 4 дні тому +1

      No the political ideology’s of the party want they were always gonna do it that was just a scape goat to justify it to less extremist Lebanese

    • @johngillespie9459
      @johngillespie9459 4 дні тому +2

      Besides, most of the shelling didn’t happen till after the barracks was attacked. Our boys said things got very quiet for a few days after New Jersey did her thing. I think a lot of the terrorists realized that if they could even see the ship off the coast, it could hit them.

    • @paperburn
      @paperburn 4 дні тому +3

      The main impetus for the attack (IMHO) was we and the French were protecting the Aid and allowing to be distributed to anyone. Hezbollah said if we did not stop and only give aid to them we would face the wraith of god. (note this was one of many reasons but the straw that broke the camels back)

    • @nicolasolton
      @nicolasolton 3 дні тому

      ​@@paperburnseems that the worm has turned for Hezbollah of late.👍

  • @owenconnolly3041
    @owenconnolly3041 День тому

    Great info Wes and some good witty humor too !!

  • @BoBnotThat1
    @BoBnotThat1 4 дні тому +5

    You're not the only Gen X here mate.
    We've seen what happens when they make the cannons bigger. WW2 Train guns.
    Also Suck squeeze bang blow, is a 4 stroke engine.

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 3 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the update. 2:49 The XM-1299 program was canceled. 6:30 O₂ is not a propellant, it's the oxidizer that supports combustion. The propellant is based on HTTB. 9:30 I don't think you can make a universal range assessment about Russia's CB radar; lots of variables. The Q-37 was modified for Desert Storm to acquire targets well beyond 70km.

  • @Fireandiceautok9v
    @Fireandiceautok9v 4 дні тому +3

    Iwas a 13f and back in the day we ratorounds rocket assistance shell .i can't believe the stuff they have developed since 😮

  • @philippedefechereux7896
    @philippedefechereux7896 4 дні тому +2

    Outstanding educational piece on this fast-changing and crucial military topic. Fun too.√√√

  • @nevisstkitts8264
    @nevisstkitts8264 4 дні тому +10

    Excellent video!

    • @fooleanperspective1426
      @fooleanperspective1426 4 дні тому

      He’s a fed

    • @quickmushroom4735
      @quickmushroom4735 4 дні тому

      @@fooleanperspective1426 mf u in russian uniform talking

    • @ivancho5854
      @ivancho5854 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@fooleanperspective1426 Really? Well then the Feds are doing a great job! 😁👍

  • @tuy60
    @tuy60 4 дні тому +2

    Talking about shooting strange ammo out of barrels reminded me of the M551 "Sheridan" AR/AAV light tank.
    It fired the MGM-51 Shillelagh guided anti-tank missile out the M81/M81 Modified/M81E1 152 mm gun/launcher.
    Both were used in Vietnam and the first Gulf War.

  • @daiakunin
    @daiakunin 4 дні тому +13

    Very interesting development. As a fan of Perun's work I have to ask: will it be cost effective?

    • @michaelccozens
      @michaelccozens 4 дні тому +9

      Good question, but, to a certain extent, that has to come-down to the context of use, doesn't it? In a war where neither side has air superiority, and especially against a foe like Putin's Russia, which has made several terrible decisions that have left it with an extremely-vulnerable logistics branch, the ability to force the relocation of supply and other depots perhaps twice as far behind the front-line as they currently are could be extremely advantageous, especially with Putin adopting "meat wave" tactics that require far more supply. There's also the ability to give infiltration teams a much longer "truck trail" along which individual or small groups of supply units could be targeted.

    • @tessjuel
      @tessjuel 4 дні тому +9

      I don't know about the new German shell but the Norwegian HE-EXR shell costs far more than a regular artillery shell. However, it has about the same range as and is considerably cheaper than the ER GMLRS rocket used by HIMARS. So it's cost effective for targets way behind the front line but obviously not for traditional artillery purposes.

    • @The_Judge300
      @The_Judge300 4 дні тому +6

      @@tessjuel
      Exactly.
      This is all about what it will be used for.
      These shells are not meant for normal trench shelling.
      They are going to be used for key targets located far behind the frontline, and it is going to make the logistical nightmare the Russians already have MUCH worse.
      Now, the Russians will need to move important "targets" much further back.
      Specially if these Norwegian ramjet shells prove to be as accurate as claimed.

    • @Jay.Kellett
      @Jay.Kellett 4 дні тому +1

      Probably for high value targets only, unless of course a friendly neighbor gives them to you for free.

  • @Cta2006
    @Cta2006 4 дні тому +22

    Norway and German defence industries are also working together in developing the Super Sonic Strike Missile (3SM) Tyrfing
    But that wont be ready for several years

  • @planetmikusha5898
    @planetmikusha5898 4 дні тому +9

    Israel's American-made aircraft hit Iranian targets despite Iran having Russian anti-aircraft missile systems.

    • @caspermaul7583
      @caspermaul7583 4 дні тому

      The value of an actual air force....

    • @planetmikusha5898
      @planetmikusha5898 4 дні тому +5

      @@caspermaul7583 Or maybe, just maybe, the vaunted Russian anti-aircraft systems are about as useful as Russia's turret tossing exploding tanks?

  • @flyboymike111357
    @flyboymike111357 4 дні тому +5

    Warfare is rapidly turning into more of a high tech battle between horsesrchers and wagonforts than a typical infantry focused landwar.

    • @cedhome7945
      @cedhome7945 4 дні тому

      Tell that to the thousands of infantry being used as cannon food

  • @randylathrop8044
    @randylathrop8044 4 дні тому +1

    That was an excellent video and a great description of how ramjet works. By the way, you do NOT look old enough to know that AT&T commercial!

  • @controlfreak1963
    @controlfreak1963 4 дні тому +5

    They will help but unless they can supply quantity they will not turn the tide.

    • @Sungamton
      @Sungamton 3 дні тому

      Which is why Norway is helping Ukraine establishing a Ramjet ammo factory in Ukraine.

    • @controlfreak1963
      @controlfreak1963 3 дні тому

      @@Sungamton Awesome!

  • @4200timeB
    @4200timeB 4 дні тому

    Lol ..I got the reference... These are some wild artillery shells

  • @kdeuler
    @kdeuler 3 дні тому +1

    I assume the ramjet shells require precision guidance systems to be really useful.

  • @Dr3x0w
    @Dr3x0w 3 дні тому

    What the hell? This is cool as f***. I didn’t even know this existed.

  • @sundragon7703
    @sundragon7703 3 дні тому +1

    German artillery is up there with German optics. By the way, I also like part of the old FedEx slogan of "Positively. Absolutely. Has to get there..."

  • @natuerlichedummheit
    @natuerlichedummheit 4 дні тому +2

    Very interesting!

  • @warhorse03826
    @warhorse03826 4 дні тому +2

    back in the 1980's they were working on a ramjet round for the 106 recoilless rifle. the theory was it could turn the 106 into a long range kinetic kill AT weapon.
    the entire package would have changed the spotting rifle with a laser designator/rangefinder
    they couldn't get the ramjet to fire reliably and the whole project was dropped.. maybe they could use these newer ramjets to make the low-pressure 105mm light tank guns into real killers?

    • @rogerwilco5918
      @rogerwilco5918 4 дні тому +1

      Wouldn't you need some kind of penetrator tip for that?

    • @warhorse03826
      @warhorse03826 4 дні тому

      @@rogerwilco5918 the core of the round would be machined tungsten. basically a dart with the workings of the ramjet built around it. firing the 106 brings the ramjet up to working speed and then it continues to accelerate towards the target until it runs out of fuel. laser seeker in the nose keeps it on target...but as fast as it would be going, everything else is relatively stationary.
      they couldn't get the ramjet to work reliably. but that was the 1980's, when reserve military units still had the 106 in abundance.. now...maybe they could get it to work. not many people using the 106RR to make the project worthwhile.

    • @rogerwilco5918
      @rogerwilco5918 4 дні тому

      @@warhorse03826 then how would the Ramjet work?

    • @warhorse03826
      @warhorse03826 4 дні тому

      @@rogerwilco5918 like any other ramjet? look up ramjets. that's how ramjets work. it sucks in one end burns fuel and blows out the other with no moving parts in between. it needs to get up to a working speed for the amount of air going in the front to comrpess enough to start the process.
      the 106RR fires the ramjet like a bullet. that gets it up to the operating speed. the ramjet fires. the ramjet accelerates towards the target. it hits the target. the structural core of the bullet-ramjet is a spike about 2 feet long and 4MM wide made of tungsten. the ramjet engine is built around the spike, the spike only being 4mm wide and the ramjet taking up the remainder of the 105mm. so there is plenty of room for the ramjet, fuel, guidance, ect.
      tugsten is very hard. hard things go through armor when they move very fast. ramjets go very fast.
      not sure how much more I can bring this down for ya buddy.

  • @lexpox329
    @lexpox329 4 дні тому +3

    its all about cost in the end, if this is too expensive to fire at volume then it probably will lose compared to "reg" rounds. The Excalibur rounds are a disappointment at the moment given their ability to be jammed due to reliance on GPS.

  • @ManelvisSoares
    @ManelvisSoares 4 дні тому +1

    thank you mr. 007

  • @thatfatman6978
    @thatfatman6978 3 дні тому +1

    The age old military question. Big boom less range or small boom more range.

  • @jordanmagpiebullet7978
    @jordanmagpiebullet7978 2 дні тому

    Amazing job Wes I just sub and I’m loving your work and if I my can I ask you something also love your channel background

  • @dr.williams5251
    @dr.williams5251 4 дні тому +4

    🇺🇦 thx Wes, excellent report.🇺🇦 Ramjet artillery have 5 times the range and 10 times the cost, $75K per round.

    • @dalehill6127
      @dalehill6127 4 дні тому +1

      But cheaper than HIMARS & ATACMS?

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 4 дні тому +1

      Cheaper then GMLRS and more flexible

    • @michiel1362
      @michiel1362 2 дні тому +1

      And less explosive power? I assume because explosive weight is lost due to ramjet technology weighs something too

  • @jackmclane1826
    @jackmclane1826 4 дні тому +4

    Counter battery radars are not well effective against any guided shell. These shells don't fly on a ballistic curve and thus the data from the flight path does not allow for precise calculation back to the origin. Not good enough to fire back.

  • @lacdirk
    @lacdirk 4 дні тому

    I didn't think of AT&T's commercial, I thought of Depeche Mode's "Reach out and touch faith".

  • @christopherharris6145
    @christopherharris6145 4 дні тому +24

    Aging fast? Wait til you hit your 70's.

  • @tacticalsapper
    @tacticalsapper 4 дні тому +1

    RCH155 plus ramjet.

  • @mikelanglow-bi2sv
    @mikelanglow-bi2sv 3 дні тому

    Always interesting 🩵

  • @catsupchutney
    @catsupchutney 4 дні тому +2

    In terms of available production capacity and bang for buck, what effect would this have?

  • @JamesPrpich
    @JamesPrpich 4 дні тому +3

    When will they make Ramjet MLRS/HIMARS Rockets?

  • @asdasdasddgdgdfgdg
    @asdasdasddgdgdfgdg 4 дні тому +3

    Germany already had such shells during WW2: Trommsdorff shells.

  • @dmnkln
    @dmnkln 3 дні тому +1

    What about the error radius? OK with GPS - but GPS can be, and is, jammed often. With mere inertia guidance, the error radius may become so large as to make the things almost useless against hard targets, or a considerable number of shell per target will be necessary.

    • @lonpfrb
      @lonpfrb 2 дні тому

      INS is solid state digital so relentless continuous improvement mainly funded by volume production of handheld devices, a multi billion industry..

  • @JoseOrtiz-fp7bc
    @JoseOrtiz-fp7bc 4 дні тому

    ........ Love the reference 😅

  • @jeremygibbs7342
    @jeremygibbs7342 4 дні тому +32

    Currently, NATO could reach out and touch all Russian bases without any long range arty. Russia's air defense is such a joke they shoot down their own planes in paranoia almost on a weekly bases at this point.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 4 дні тому +2

      well i want nato to get in the fight but everyone has some excuse . the us only fights pipsqueeks who have no chance so all the chest thumping they do is bullshit. if china invades tiawan how long before us gives up?

    • @muckle8
      @muckle8 4 дні тому +1

      @jeremygibbs NATO are all in - don’t kid yourself - and cope harder.

    • @jeremygibbs7342
      @jeremygibbs7342 4 дні тому

      @ronblack7870 I mean Russia has proven itself to be useless so they probably are a pipsqueak in comparison. But fair question. US might only last a matter of months at most if China invades Taiwan. At least that is the impression I have of US dependability so far.

    • @jeremygibbs7342
      @jeremygibbs7342 4 дні тому +6

      @@muckle8 Russia is still the largest single tank donor to Ukraine. NATO has sent double digit equipment not hundreds or the thousands Ukraine needs. It is the baste minimum sent and Russia still struggles. Cope like your Russian tanks

    • @axell964
      @axell964 4 дні тому

      @@jeremygibbs7342 Nato has sent tripple digit tank numbers easily to Ukraine. But it did not sent quadruple numbers, which would be required in a prolonged war. During WW2, Germany alone produced over 100.000 tanks and armoured fighting vehicles., but it wasn't nearly enough as allies outproduced them easily, even if german tanks were of higher quality.
      In the cold war, west germany outproduced what russia is now producing as somewhat wartime economy, the west just doesn't want to enroll its industrial might to it.

  • @jjohnson796
    @jjohnson796 3 дні тому

    The shell from Nammo? Cool, though the design Ukraine is likely to get is an older variant but reach out indeed. Ma Bell certainly never had this kind of a bang.

  • @johngillespie9459
    @johngillespie9459 4 дні тому

    Thank you. Happy to hear Ukraine will be getting these. Long range accurate fires are where it’s at now.
    But even back in the day, they at least had the range. The German K5 Glatt, 310mm railroad gun, a smooth bore, bored out version of the standard K5, could reach out to 150 kilometers firing a specialized sabotted arrow shell. But I suspect its accuracy was abysmal. It had a muzzle velocity of about 1500 meters a second. The projectile weighed just under 300lbs. A conventional 283mm shell weighed more than double that. The powder charge was actually heavier than the projectile. It would have been used as a terror weapon to bombard London from across the channel. But by the time they had any of them ready, 1945, the Germans were fighting on their home turf and England was out of reach. Some shells were supposedly fired at Patton’s Third Army, but no record of that exists. It is possible this is being confused with a conventional K5 barrage that came close to hitting his headquarters in late 1944. Mark Felton does a video on this latter incident.

  • @fintux
    @fintux 4 дні тому

    Just two plants of a single company in Canada produced over 1.3 million artillery shells in 1918, with the technology of that era. Too bad I cannot find the source anymore, but there were some pretty staggering numbers of artillery shells produced by Canada alone at the peak - I can't even remember if it was during WWI or WWII, but it was probably close to a million each month.

    • @axell964
      @axell964 4 дні тому

      Well, considering the total amount of shells produced in WW1, 1.3 Million is still a small number. Germany in WW1 fired an average of 8 million shells per mouth. That is more then current shell production of both russia and the west combined...in a year and not a month.

  • @jounisaari9471
    @jounisaari9471 4 дні тому +12

    NAMMO is owned 50/50 by Norwegian government and Finnish Mil tech company Patria, that is owned 49,9% by Norwegian Kongberg Defence and 50.1% Finland. Headquarters are in Norway.
    NAMMO has several factories in Finland. Lapua is part of Nammo. Nammo operates in 12 countries according to my Google search.
    I was trying to look about manufacturing capacity and support for Ukraine.. found nothing, CEO of Nammo Finland told just that they are making investments and order books are full. That factory is making empty shells, they are filled somewhere else like Sweden or Germany. The capacity must be somewhat large, because Finland is using twice a year pretty large amount of shells for practicing. According to one general more that UK+France manufacturing capacity. (Likely not anymore, the old shells may have better use in Ukraine than training conscripts shooting two weeks in row.)

    • @norsenomad
      @norsenomad 4 дні тому +4

      On 9 July 2024, CEO of NAMMO, Morten Brandtzæg, and the Norwegian Minister of Defence, Bjørn Arild Gram, announced during a meeting in Washington DC a ten-fold (x 10) expansion of artillery shell manufacturing and doubling (x 2) of rocket-booster manufacturing at NAMMO. Foundation work was already done, and mentioned production capacity will be reached within 18-24 months from announcement, which is less than 14-20 months from now. The investment is so large that the Norwegian government is aiding in this expansion, financially and reducing red tape. This expansion will provide to both Ukraine and NATO, and guarantees this new production capacity for a minimum of 15 years. (Source: NTB. You can also find this information at the Norwegian Government official website, under section Press releases).

    • @jounisaari9471
      @jounisaari9471 4 дні тому +5

      @@norsenomad I read that NAMMO got 200 million EUR for constructing factories from Norwegian coverment. One 45 million construction is on the way in Finland. I am not sure, whether that 200 mil is whole sum, or did also Finnish party invest also.
      Finns don't give much info. In very beginning of the full scale invasion Finnish army gave a lot 152mm artillery to Ukraine. We bought them from the DDR after Berlin wall collapsed. We were not yet in NATO, and we didn't ask DDR or USSR licence for export 😀. Finnish government desided that we can export to Ukraine them, because it's not a war even according to Russia😉. Finnish law doesn't allow export to war going country, but Ukraine is in legal self defense situation.

    • @norsenomad
      @norsenomad 4 дні тому +5

      @@jounisaari9471 Artillery production to Ukraine: On the Norwegian government website, 23 August 2024, it was announced that the NAMMO standard NATO 155 mm artillery shell secret formula + know-how and consulting support was given on a free license to Ukraine, to make Ukraine able to produce high-quality modern artillery rounds themselves, thus closer and faster to the front. Add to that governmental financial support, for building facilities and purchasing raw materials. This also increases the total production capacity further, to defend their country and people agains the aggressive and invading war criminals in the east. NAMMO applied for technology transfer to Ukraine, and the Norwegian government approved in august.

    • @Oeystein
      @Oeystein 4 дні тому +1

      Ukraine is allowed to produce Norwegian artillery shells News | Date: 23/08/2024 | Ministry of Defence, Prime Minister's Office, Ministry of Foreign Affairs The government has opened the way for Norwegian defense technology to be transferred to Ukraine, and Norway is contributing funding to make this happen. Artillery shells developed by Nammo can thus be produced in Ukraine.

    • @norsenomad
      @norsenomad 4 дні тому +1

      @@Oeystein Thanks, but that's literally what I just said, including same publication date and source reference...

  • @BC-tp8ep
    @BC-tp8ep 4 дні тому +9

    But you know they will give them to Ukraine and tell them they can’t use them because only Russia is allowed to do “escalation”.

    • @jerry4256
      @jerry4256 4 дні тому

      Don't know the details, but with Biden letting Ukraine range deeper into Russia, maybe everyone else will follow suit.

    • @agnelomascarenhas8990
      @agnelomascarenhas8990 4 дні тому

      Scholz and Biden need dentures. They have been mumbling too much and lack a bite.

    • @ruzziasht349
      @ruzziasht349 4 дні тому

      That all changed yesterday, Biden gave the green light for long range missiles to be fired in to Russia.

    • @Carbonracer1
      @Carbonracer1 3 дні тому +1

      Norway has no limitation on this.

  • @karlis6235
    @karlis6235 4 дні тому +2

    spotting 100+ km in enemy territory might be a little difficult

    • @Pnoydoc8
      @Pnoydoc8 4 дні тому +5

      Dedicated spotter drones?

    • @verttikoo2052
      @verttikoo2052 4 дні тому +2

      We have satellite systems for that

    • @Jay.Kellett
      @Jay.Kellett 4 дні тому +1

      You know that team at NSA who found Bin Laden? Well,................... they have a new assignment.

  • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
    @gustavmeyrink_2.0 4 дні тому +4

    9:44 The French very quickly forgot that. They lost the 1870-71 war with Germany because they used muzzle-loading bronze guns while Germany had breech-loading steel-barrelled ones.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 4 дні тому +3

      In that war, the French had a much better rifle but vastly superior German artillery was more important. So was Prussian military doctrine so called Bewegungs Krieg “movement warfare” which evolved into what became known as Blitzkrieg in English speaking circles. One thing it involves decentralised decision-making.

    • @pliashmuldba
      @pliashmuldba 4 дні тому

      Denmark same in 1864

    • @flash7355
      @flash7355 4 дні тому +1

      The german breechloader was new 1840 at 1870 it was almost obsolete having less power and worse accuracy than other nations guns but Preussian training, their concept of moving battle and superfast mobilization in Preussia and as they say the god of war Artillery. Preussian Artillery were more accurate, reloaded faster due to drills and had longer range and that won all the wars Perussia we in from 1860-1880.

    • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
      @gustavmeyrink_2.0 4 дні тому

      @@flash7355 You're wrong about the guns. France used La Hitte guns which were rifled but muzzle loaded brass barrelled guns France introduced in 1859. Far inferior to the Krupp steel breech loaders used by Prussia/Germany. France did not have breech loaders until 1875. The French guns had a reach of 3000m while the German guns one of 4000m.
      The German guns used sliding block breeches which were superior to the screw type breeches used by others which did indeed limited the power of those guns.

    • @flash7355
      @flash7355 4 дні тому

      @@gustavmeyrink_2.0 If you read my post before replying it would be better. 1840 Preussia changed to breechloaded personal infantry rifles the Dreyse needle gun i refer to these at first and compared to other nations they had worse accuracy and shorter possible aimed fire and shorter pointblank range. Especially compared to the french Chassepot from 1866 rifle. As I posted in the last post I stated clearly for anyone to read that Preussian artillery were superior in range, handling and they had also better training. It seems you should go back and read again what I wrote since you seem to think I wrote the opposite.

  • @jeremydenn6988
    @jeremydenn6988 2 дні тому

    Thanks for your service in the Army 101s😊🇺🇸🇺🇦💙

  • @sailor67duilio27
    @sailor67duilio27 4 дні тому

    I'm interested to know where did you get this info. As far as I know the shells that the Germans use (155mm, PZ2000) are in fact the Vulcano developed together with Leonardo for the this artillery. The Vulcano were developed originally (by OTO-Melara (Leonardo)) for the 76mm and 127mm. Leonardo owns the patent.

  • @runrau9275
    @runrau9275 4 дні тому +7

    Being a young teenager in the late seventies it was the school yard fight slogan " Watch out or I'll pull a Ma Bell and reach out and touch someone" We can credit Marshall McLuhan for creating the tagline "Reach out and touch someone" for Ma Bell. This campaign was designed to soften AT&T's image and position the company as an indispensable element of everyday American life.

    • @Jon-x3c
      @Jon-x3c 4 дні тому

      The media is the message!

  • @AndyWoohoo666
    @AndyWoohoo666 4 дні тому +3

    Joined the military in 1981...that doesn't make me old just extra salty.

  • @walther2492
    @walther2492 4 дні тому

    Rheinmetall is currently digging pure gold in Ukraine. They are learning so much, in so many areas, it will give them an impressive leap forward.

  • @ricardoabh3242
    @ricardoabh3242 3 дні тому

    Accuracy?
    Very interesting

  • @ArtemMelanich
    @ArtemMelanich 4 дні тому

    Audio: cutting off some low freq would make voice more pleasing

  • @andersgrassman6583
    @andersgrassman6583 4 дні тому

    Hmm, a bit surprising this hasn't been tried much earlier?!

  • @tommorgan1291
    @tommorgan1291 2 дні тому

    Friend's son in law, F18 pilot, just sent to be stationed in Norway. Hmmm?

  • @titter3648
    @titter3648 4 дні тому +1

    It is pretty useless actually. Russia has really good GPS jamming and spoofing ability's. And without GPS guidance and with that long range the shell will not even hit near where it is aimed because of the accumulated error over long distance in inertial guidance or unguided. And on top of not hitting anything near accurate it also has a really limited explosive payload to make room for the ramjet and guidance parts.

  • @Joe_1sr9
    @Joe_1sr9 4 дні тому +3

    Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

  • @bosstwind7010
    @bosstwind7010 4 дні тому +1

    How much of them though?

  • @MrGibbones
    @MrGibbones 3 дні тому +1

    You feel old, I’m a boomer!

  • @Dagh1
    @Dagh1 4 дні тому

    I'm not able to find any announcement mentioning ramjet ammo, could someone help me with a link?

  • @madeleinesuzette
    @madeleinesuzette 4 дні тому +1

    Thanks Wes 👍
    🇺🇦🇺🇦🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘💪

  • @nicolasolton
    @nicolasolton 3 дні тому

    It seems that packing a ramjet engine into a 155mm artillery shell might make such ammunition prohibitively expensive, no?🤔

  • @douglassshephard3732
    @douglassshephard3732 4 дні тому +4

    This is a good idea to let Ukraine test this artillery shell, it would be a good idea let all the other weapons manufacturers that have a weapon that they don't know how it would work in combat, let Ukraine test it for them, but with one big caveat, you do not announce it, to anyone, the company that sends Ukraine the weapon system knows, Ukraine Will know, the countries that are by Ukraine that might want to purchase that weapon system, but you keep it secret, this will make it hard for any country that may be an adversary to the countries around Ukraine and Ukraine to know what's going on.

    • @jounisaari9471
      @jounisaari9471 4 дні тому

      @@douglassshephard3732 That ammo was not secret. They already try to sell it. Nordic countries have given some nearly prototypes of new weapons to Ukraine. I think same with Estonia, they also develop drones at least. I guess the manufacturer gives the weapons to selected troups that are not likely to leak information of leave weapons to Russians. The software and electronics is quite easy to make very difficult to reverse engineer. Just make ASIC and volatile memory and software stored encrypted.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 4 дні тому

      yes i am always saying why does the us announce assistance packages ? is it just politicians that have this constant need to take credit??? we need to STFU about weapons that are getting sent.

    • @jounisaari9471
      @jounisaari9471 4 дні тому

      @@ronblack7870 Finnish president and government said that they delegated the aid to generals of Finland and Ukraine. No point to talk details in parliament. Finland has quite large stockpile of artillery and vehicles etc. But we have also nearly as long border as Ukraine with Russia.

    • @Jay.Kellett
      @Jay.Kellett 4 дні тому

      Hard to hide anything in a democratic society now-a-days.

  • @glensheluchin4404
    @glensheluchin4404 4 дні тому

    thanks maaaaaaaaaaaate. I find myself inadvertantly watching /gravitating to your posts more and more. Bit scary. Good content, direct with no wank factor- thoroughly enjoyed watching it. tell me why the Ukrainians dont allocate one gepard to every 2-3,4 tanks when they deploy, effectivly allowing them to work any battlefield with alot more sucess.

  • @daruekeller
    @daruekeller 4 дні тому

    you might say, "everything's changed. again" in fact, "you will"

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 4 дні тому +39

    I hope increased European support for Ukraine will effectively replace the unfortunate withdrawal of US support that is seemingly inevitable come Jan 2025.

    • @caspermaul7583
      @caspermaul7583 4 дні тому +5

      "hope" is the keyword. I do as well, but I fear the worst is yet to come for Ukraine... It's sickening to see our politicians dragging their feet while thousands of innocent people are being killed!

    • @wathaet1386
      @wathaet1386 4 дні тому +3

      Well, it is time we take care of our own security and not expect US tax payers and soldier pay the price for problems we created in our own backyard.
      Send them 50 SAAB JAS, send our forces to do all maintenance, rear logistics, start and run factories, AA for the rear areas.

    • @yves2932
      @yves2932 4 дні тому

      I dont see germany stepping in to close that gap, if you hoped for that. Scholz is unwilling and if Merz wins the election, he's unwilling to go into debt to put the money where his mouth is. The might hand oversome Taurus missiles, but thats not a game changer. The 50 billions from frozen russian assets could be the lifeline needed. But I havent seen anything definitive yet.

    • @muckle8
      @muckle8 4 дні тому

      It is all the support to backstabbers Ukraine that is causing all the deaths - on both sides ,NAZI and Russian.

    • @craybro
      @craybro 4 дні тому +4

      Yes, “as long as it takes’ doesn’t mean much if the promise comes from the US

  • @rm6330
    @rm6330 4 дні тому

    I was suggested (by youtube) Nammo Media video (about ramjet shells) after this video... it's a 5 year old video btw.

  • @sashaeffer
    @sashaeffer 2 дні тому

    GREAT presentation. Ukraine just has to hold on long enough where this cutting edge technology starts to pay dividends to Russias "number" superiority in men and equipment.

  • @jonathanwebb8307
    @jonathanwebb8307 4 дні тому

    Glory to Ukraine, Glory to the heroes! Слава Україні Героям слава!

  • @timmommens901
    @timmommens901 4 дні тому

    Wait... they did recieved already a dozen first of prototype.... no ? annouced in May forseen for end of the summer.

  • @casfren
    @casfren 2 дні тому

    only 30k subs. this gotta change.

  • @Evan-iq8hd
    @Evan-iq8hd 4 дні тому +2

    "Best is incrasingly qualitative rather than quantitative".
    My man hasnt been paying attention over the past two years. Just like the other Western Wunderwaffen, if you cannot mass produce these "game changers", then the poor Ukrainian conscripts will continue eating cheaply produced Russian shells for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

  • @jimmiller5600
    @jimmiller5600 4 дні тому +4

    The added range will resurrect towed arty since it can be moved away from drones on the front line.

  • @ericbrammer2245
    @ericbrammer2245 4 дні тому

    Dean Ing, noted such 30 yrs ago & re-appraised that notion in his 2YK book of short stories, but in hand-held weapons. A 9mm going mach 4 for 3hnd yards? Yuppies die ..

  • @timan2039
    @timan2039 4 дні тому +1

    Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦

  • @bagibadoo439
    @bagibadoo439 4 дні тому

    It might be a good idea to blur your background a bit and add some more light on you. It will be easier to focus on you

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671 4 дні тому

    This is new tech. Extends range significantly beyond Russian artillery capability (ref. NAMMO) - 1st time in half a century.

  • @Tobben44
    @Tobben44 4 дні тому

    Interesting video... But the audio is so bad that i am skipping it.

  • @hellboystein2926
    @hellboystein2926 4 дні тому

    Most of the shell seems to be hollow or filled with the propellant, the size of the explosive must be pathetically small.

  • @mr.normalguy69
    @mr.normalguy69 4 дні тому

    Completely forgot that those exists.

  • @peterryan4851
    @peterryan4851 4 дні тому

    Wes, check out, Reach out, a song by an Aussie band called Noiseworks.

  • @howardgaskin6117
    @howardgaskin6117 4 дні тому

    You're a good defence writer, speaker in my opinion and you produce interesting content, I would stick to that and skip the... humour.

  • @whyukraine
    @whyukraine 3 дні тому

    Did you say Boeing is involved?😬 Where is GLSDB?

  • @GoatlikePersonality
    @GoatlikePersonality 2 дні тому

    Slava Ukraini 🤠🐐🇳🇴

  • @donaldclifford5763
    @donaldclifford5763 День тому

    Seems like it will take Russia a long time to duplicate this ramjet tech. Meanwhile Russian artillery is vulnerable to out of range counter attacks.

  • @Withnail1969
    @Withnail1969 4 дні тому

    How many shells?