Arcturus and I covered this for three weeks. It was a disaster in Forerunners and even though we provided them videos, screenshots, and log analysis, they still rushed it out in the December Global Patch. I know the player base does not care about what goes in Forerunners, but "We Told You So." This one of the major issues that I have with them: Their lack of quality control. And, their lack of attention to those in Forerunners sending suggestions about the content about to be released in Global.
theres a reason they have so many streamer testers and they dont even bother to listen to the results is mind blowing to me. i was wanting to invest in some black friday sales but for what. summoning is bugged, gear isnt saving, bosses are bugged, new bug weekly thats probably been in the game for months but because they dont read into problems they just go unsolved till a video comes out. disgusting company. also my drakes chasm runs never pull the same score as what i saved, i have to try 5-10 times myself in order to get even close or if i let it run auto its 5k less than what i saved as well even with the same gear that i saved with...
So that’s what’s going on! This worked out for me because I do not switch gear around. I was wondering why the 500k+ teams at the bottom of my list of arena opponents were saving their runs letting 1 spider pass through on round 1. This sucks.
I see that happen also. 1 random mob gets through my AoE team, I have to stop the auto in time to place Hatsut down to kill it or I lose. My AoE team is over 490k BP and I never fight teams close to that bc the chances of 1 random mob getting is frustrating.
That explains why people way lower then me beating me all the time, and I just gave up doing arena. thought it was just me and I did upgrade my stuff with gear, artifacts skills. Thnnks for letting us know.
What makes it worth is that this bug was detected and revealed a few weeks PRIOR to release in a 'wor' s going on episode', as occurring on the test server. HOW could this change have made the cut to the main server is beyond me! WE KNEW FOR WEEKS
At least they're usually very generous with their compensations. However it's still a bad look for the company and the fact that it's happening time and time again is a sign that something isn't functioning well at all inside Moonton and that we should be very worried about the longevity of this game. Especially those that spend money on it. After all cracks in the foundation are the most dangerous cracks of all and also the hardest(and most expensive) to fix.
@@Mcdfr123 It's not about features not arriving fast enough, it's the state that they arrive in. A new feature that comes buggy out of the gate, especially when they already knew it was buggy as it was the same in the test server, is simply a bad business practice. When these things keep happening than it means something is wrong in the internal processes within the company that should prevent these things from happening, and especially reoccurring. Also they very much are winning, they're a gatcha game developer and they have a bunch of whales paying them a lot of money...
I’m usually not the “give me compensation” guy, but I think this deserves compensation. I’ve been pushing super hard to get Lady A, constantly refreshing attacks. Not only was I not able to stay in apex this week I fell to plat 3. I haven’t missed overlord in months. Lady A feels impossible to get and this is very frustrating. Now besides that, I think the bugs are starting to get me down. At first I was happy to see how they responded and believe they were going to do better. But now I’m starting to feel like they aren’t actually trying very hard. It’s super feels bad and I hope I’m wrong. But it’s legit every week that a new bug is found by the community, which is kinda mind blowing
To add my bit on this topic, every week my defense percentage ends up in between proximately 28,5% at worst to 34,5% at best and I am talking about every week for the last year or so, since I started watching the results. The week of the update, my defense percentage suddenly finished at 22%. Considering how many losses you have in comparison to wins, dropping by 6,5 to 12,5% is huge and really annoying as well as time consuming to maintain yourself at least within the Apex level.
It's usually that 1 random mob that gets through that burns 🔥 me up. You have to be quick to stop the auto placement of 4th or 5th fighter to prevent the loss. I don't change gear around except once or twice a month
Something that is different, but maybe similar in nature: I had an issue the other day where my auto runs for AMR started failing, but only every OTHER match. And it would always fail on the first run. The very next 20x run, all of them would succeed, and so on.
I've noticed that recently too. I thought maybe it had something to do with running them in the background because it seemed like every first run I was doing that way failed. Then when I would run and watch it was fine.
Omg and I thought I was crazy, so this is fucked up as well, I was sure something was wrong. This definitely needs to be addressed as well, but I am tired arguing with them because they don't admit anything unless someone like fastidious or other content creators make a ruckus over it, I have been arguing everyday since this arena gear save feature released because I woke up in the morning and lost all of my 20 arena defensive attacks, something impossible to happen, and I was sure it's not working at all. And for that I was fighting and arguing with that GM everyday since and she didn't even recognise it that it might be a bug or something wrong !!!
I've been messaging Moonton about this since it dropped. Every fight I don't have gear equipped for defense I've lost, if I have anything equipped it's normal win loss rates and all they've said is that it's just a visual bug and everything works correct. They also really need a replay system for arena, not just to show bugs but to also see why certain battles were won or lost.
ua-cam.com/video/BH424fPadK0/v-deo.htmlsi=YcHNe-Z62gtKPoxs this is exactly what Sebastian and Arcturus said 2 weeks ago on the forerunner accounts before the update. Crazy they never fixed it prior to going to global on the new update lol
I friggin knew it!!! I called this out in the Discord almost a week ago. Had no proof, but you could tell it wasn't working on defense. Made last week's grind so hard!!!
As a developer myself I can’t imagine the “hornets nest” in the WoR game file- I imagine this game is built on unity since they have an exe. And not a .dmg(among other signs- laggy windows ;p ). And though this game is awesome, I will almost guarantee they didn’t really care about the foundation, they were ment to pivot by design in case the game failed. Imo they just shoved man power into the game and got lucky now if they really see the light at the end of the tunnel they would rebuild as a side project knowing what they know now and make the first ever lasting gotcha game! This ultimately will benefit everyone. The last thing we want is our time going up in smoke
After hours of tweaking my team to finally make it into Apex this weekend, built a solid team to stay, only to find myself barely hanging in the bottom of Overlord in the morning because I switched gear thinking it would be saved.. This game is really screwing things up each time, really starting to get sick of it.
I think it might be the case with every saved auto battle no matter if it’s arena or not. I run my Void on auto battle for months now, yesterday I had to re-do 3 levels manually because for some reason the auto fights decided to fail.
Great video as always, thank you for putting stuff like this out. My thoughts are that I’m big into data integrity for work. Putting out reports that are false or paying people the wrong amount is not acceptable. It’s hard to see this continue to happen consistently with “Promoted new released content”; where’s the quality integrity? Their mistakes have effects on player growth and their players money, if they spend, even if in just a small way. It loses players trust. Right now, anything put out essentially can’t be trusted is the way I feel. I’m newer to the game, like 90 days, and since then there has been 4-6 incidences that had affected their player base, 3 in a pretty big way. I said it before, as many have, more testing prior to release should be required. It’s insanity at this point to keep expecting no glitches. Which is sad to say. Keep up the amazing work Fasti!
I said this last time but I don't want to see an Apology statement because it never should have made it to global like this. The only thing that seems to work in this game accepting payments.
Ah yes, of course, a new bug fasti and other creators have to find, fix, and beg to compensate. I am sensing a trend here Moonton and it's not one the player base is going to like...
I don't know why, but I am having a weird experiance with arena myself. But it's the match making part. When I was lv 50, I got to Plat 2 with a not so lego team. Today, lv 98, I'm still in Plat 2. And I'm facing even stronger teams then I did at lv 50. It literally feels like the higher lv I am, and my teams, the stronger and higher lv teams I am being paired against in the arena. Is that normal?
A lot of these QoL updates make it seem as if the devs don't have any idea how the game is played. F.e When I switch gear around and realise I have an upgrade for for 1 char, the devs decided we need to regear every single character AND rerun the defense/offense just to save 1 piece of gear that changed. Why design it this way? Would love to know their thought process. 😅
I'm insured if it works anywhere... I switched hex gear (soulbond )on tywla , left hex with less stats on a wisdom set and in gb1 I auto it and get same damage... I switched diff gear on silas better stats etc and he does the same
Wow, Moonton is falling apart. What's happening with them?! New management, new staff? Whatever it is, they really need to get it together. They are failing time and time again. Unacceptable now.
Can we talk about how terrible rewards are for doing arena.? So the event’s grand prize is something you can buy in the shop 3x a week why isn’t it a legendary crystal yet? and then the arena shop rewards, the good rewards you can buy once a month. but in the other shops you can buy weekly. Doesn’t make any sense to push arena in lower to mid levels!
Moontown dont let the players find out the bugs... you proved that you can do better (find out before the player base and communicat to us, you wont need to apologized every update 😅)
Yeah Moonton should have made triple sure, but trusting them is naive at this point. Everyone comfortable with gear recommendations? I'm sure it's fine. I mean, nobody's mentioned it so lots of folks have verified right?
With a proper gear drop system it would not be a problem. And i dont need to change my 4 best gear on my heroes for half a year. Gear drop quality is killing the game for me. 99% of 99% are trash. RSL gear quality much better….
Never had this problem on forerunner. Then again I never update autos after fights, my autos are constant and I manual fights when needed but I never overwrite my autos
You played with different setup and you saving that particular setup. Of course it's saving the new stats. Try it without saving and it will keep that previous geer savings. Sorry about so many "savings "😅
I'm only at Plat 2 in arena (because I don't like having to play pvp but it's the only way to get some of those resources). However, in AOE, there are a ridiculous number of Bridget and Preatus teams from level 100 and high 90s players in there. Arena is so unbalanced and then there's these bug problems to add to that. PVP should be a separate area off the game, just for those who like pvp and keep it apart from the rest of the game.
Fastidious speaks and Moonton listens........maybe make a video on how effed up their summoning fix is and that it still sucks as well? (insert selfish wish for better pulls, not sorry).
Arcturus and I covered this for three weeks. It was a disaster in Forerunners and even though we provided them videos, screenshots, and log analysis, they still rushed it out in the December Global Patch. I know the player base does not care about what goes in Forerunners, but "We Told You So."
This one of the major issues that I have with them: Their lack of quality control. And, their lack of attention to those in Forerunners sending suggestions about the content about to be released in Global.
100% this ☝🏻
theres a reason they have so many streamer testers and they dont even bother to listen to the results is mind blowing to me. i was wanting to invest in some black friday sales but for what. summoning is bugged, gear isnt saving, bosses are bugged, new bug weekly thats probably been in the game for months but because they dont read into problems they just go unsolved till a video comes out. disgusting company. also my drakes chasm runs never pull the same score as what i saved, i have to try 5-10 times myself in order to get even close or if i let it run auto its 5k less than what i saved as well even with the same gear that i saved with...
Yeah I remember you guys talking about this for forerunner crazy they just pushed this out broken and ignored everyone telling them it’s not working
So that’s what’s going on! This worked out for me because I do not switch gear around. I was wondering why the 500k+ teams at the bottom of my list of arena opponents were saving their runs letting 1 spider pass through on round 1. This sucks.
I see that happen also. 1 random mob gets through my AoE team, I have to stop the auto in time to place Hatsut down to kill it or I lose.
My AoE team is over 490k BP and I never fight teams close to that bc the chances of 1 random mob getting is frustrating.
That explains why people way lower then me beating me all the time, and I just gave up doing arena. thought it was just me and I did upgrade my stuff with gear, artifacts skills. Thnnks for letting us know.
What makes it worth is that this bug was detected and revealed a few weeks PRIOR to release in a 'wor' s going on episode', as occurring on the test server. HOW could this change have made the cut to the main server is beyond me! WE KNEW FOR WEEKS
and yet they don't utilise test server/forerunner for fixing things before it gets released and properly tested
This weeks instalment of Moonton Needs QA
At least they're usually very generous with their compensations. However it's still a bad look for the company and the fact that it's happening time and time again is a sign that something isn't functioning well at all inside Moonton and that we should be very worried about the longevity of this game. Especially those that spend money on it. After all cracks in the foundation are the most dangerous cracks of all and also the hardest(and most expensive) to fix.
Well last time anything didn't come fast enough we all moaned, so they can't win.
@@Mcdfr123 It's not about features not arriving fast enough, it's the state that they arrive in. A new feature that comes buggy out of the gate, especially when they already knew it was buggy as it was the same in the test server, is simply a bad business practice. When these things keep happening than it means something is wrong in the internal processes within the company that should prevent these things from happening, and especially reoccurring. Also they very much are winning, they're a gatcha game developer and they have a bunch of whales paying them a lot of money...
I’m usually not the “give me compensation” guy, but I think this deserves compensation. I’ve been pushing super hard to get Lady A, constantly refreshing attacks. Not only was I not able to stay in apex this week I fell to plat 3. I haven’t missed overlord in months. Lady A feels impossible to get and this is very frustrating. Now besides that, I think the bugs are starting to get me down. At first I was happy to see how they responded and believe they were going to do better. But now I’m starting to feel like they aren’t actually trying very hard. It’s super feels bad and I hope I’m wrong. But it’s legit every week that a new bug is found by the community, which is kinda mind blowing
Most of us even constantly in Overlord won't get her for about a year. I've never missed overlord and I'm not even at 5k yet.
To add my bit on this topic, every week my defense percentage ends up in between proximately 28,5% at worst to 34,5% at best and I am talking about every week for the last year or so, since I started watching the results. The week of the update, my defense percentage suddenly finished at 22%. Considering how many losses you have in comparison to wins, dropping by 6,5 to 12,5% is huge and really annoying as well as time consuming to maintain yourself at least within the Apex level.
It's usually that 1 random mob that gets through that burns 🔥 me up. You have to be quick to stop the auto placement of 4th or 5th fighter to prevent the loss.
I don't change gear around except once or twice a month
Something that is different, but maybe similar in nature: I had an issue the other day where my auto runs for AMR started failing, but only every OTHER match. And it would always fail on the first run. The very next 20x run, all of them would succeed, and so on.
I've noticed that recently too. I thought maybe it had something to do with running them in the background because it seemed like every first run I was doing that way failed. Then when I would run and watch it was fine.
Same
Omg and I thought I was crazy, so this is fucked up as well, I was sure something was wrong. This definitely needs to be addressed as well, but I am tired arguing with them because they don't admit anything unless someone like fastidious or other content creators make a ruckus over it, I have been arguing everyday since this arena gear save feature released because I woke up in the morning and lost all of my 20 arena defensive attacks, something impossible to happen, and I was sure it's not working at all. And for that I was fighting and arguing with that GM everyday since and she didn't even recognise it that it might be a bug or something wrong !!!
It’s rng mostly, if you quit the failed and try again another rng will be present for the new runs it’s common since the beginning
@@paskalpablo1240 No, I've been running AMR with 100% success until recently. It's not just RNG.
They knew before they released the update... Sebastian had a vid aboit it and issues on forerunner
I've been messaging Moonton about this since it dropped. Every fight I don't have gear equipped for defense I've lost, if I have anything equipped it's normal win loss rates and all they've said is that it's just a visual bug and everything works correct.
They also really need a replay system for arena, not just to show bugs but to also see why certain battles were won or lost.
And never forger they deleted the bday Wgold Gift in minutes
I noticed that yesterday and thought I was doing something to change the BP. Thanks for letting us know it's a bug
ua-cam.com/video/BH424fPadK0/v-deo.htmlsi=YcHNe-Z62gtKPoxs this is exactly what Sebastian and Arcturus said 2 weeks ago on the forerunner accounts before the update. Crazy they never fixed it prior to going to global on the new update lol
I friggin knew it!!! I called this out in the Discord almost a week ago. Had no proof, but you could tell it wasn't working on defense. Made last week's grind so hard!!!
Additionally, I think Ancient summons will turn out to be bugged too...mine were suspiciously bad 🧐
@@fenr1r999Mine too
Thought this might be happening. Defense win rate was just abyssmal this month
As a developer myself I can’t imagine the “hornets nest” in the WoR game file- I imagine this game is built on unity since they have an exe. And not a .dmg(among other signs- laggy windows ;p ). And though this game is awesome, I will almost guarantee they didn’t really care about the foundation, they were ment to pivot by design in case the game failed. Imo they just shoved man power into the game and got lucky now if they really see the light at the end of the tunnel they would rebuild as a side project knowing what they know now and make the first ever lasting gotcha game! This ultimately will benefit everyone. The last thing we want is our time going up in smoke
Yes, I missed Overlord last weekend because of this.
I said it wasn't working the first day, I just it knew it wasn't working. Thx for saying why and bringing it up
After hours of tweaking my team to finally make it into Apex this weekend, built a solid team to stay, only to find myself barely hanging in the bottom of Overlord in the morning because I switched gear thinking it would be saved.. This game is really screwing things up each time, really starting to get sick of it.
I would be happy to help test quality control for Moonton. Amines instantly has catastrophic issues.
I think it might be the case with every saved auto battle no matter if it’s arena or not. I run my Void on auto battle for months now, yesterday I had to re-do 3 levels manually because for some reason the auto fights decided to fail.
You’re the tester fasti. And instead of paying u money they pay u in CC diamonds. They got u bro
Great video as always, thank you for putting stuff like this out. My thoughts are that I’m big into data integrity for work. Putting out reports that are false or paying people the wrong amount is not acceptable. It’s hard to see this continue to happen consistently with “Promoted new released content”; where’s the quality integrity? Their mistakes have effects on player growth and their players money, if they spend, even if in just a small way. It loses players trust. Right now, anything put out essentially can’t be trusted is the way I feel. I’m newer to the game, like 90 days, and since then there has been 4-6 incidences that had affected their player base, 3 in a pretty big way. I said it before, as many have, more testing prior to release should be required. It’s insanity at this point to keep expecting no glitches. Which is sad to say.
Keep up the amazing work Fasti!
Just got my unpolished soul stone and it doesn’t work on Praetus! Why is that? No lords?
No Lords. They need Legendary Soulstone.
@@23czikenit is a legendary soulstone
calm down, it is stated that it does not work on lords.😅
@ I am calm. But it’s the first one I’ve ever got. And I clear drakes chasm on IV. I never get them. So who do you suggest? Elowyn, Silas ?
Glad it's not just me. I got knocked off plat 3 just before reset because all my gear was off my defence and got smashed by losses.
I said this last time but I don't want to see an Apology statement because it never should have made it to global like this. The only thing that seems to work in this game accepting payments.
Ah yes, of course, a new bug fasti and other creators have to find, fix, and beg to compensate. I am sensing a trend here Moonton and it's not one the player base is going to like...
WE HAVE A FORERUNNERS SERVER FOR A REASON!!!
@@GalaxicWolf There's also a test server. I don't understand why they don't use it to... I dunno, test these things. It's ridiculous.
I don't know why, but I am having a weird experiance with arena myself. But it's the match making part. When I was lv 50, I got to Plat 2 with a not so lego team. Today, lv 98, I'm still in Plat 2. And I'm facing even stronger teams then I did at lv 50. It literally feels like the higher lv I am, and my teams, the stronger and higher lv teams I am being paired against in the arena. Is that normal?
Let’s see what bug it is this time 🐛 🐞 🐜 🪳
A lot of these QoL updates make it seem as if the devs don't have any idea how the game is played.
F.e When I switch gear around and realise I have an upgrade for for 1 char, the devs decided we need to regear every single character AND rerun the defense/offense just to save 1 piece of gear that changed. Why design it this way? Would love to know their thought process. 😅
That's right. In the first place it's not a convenient feature. Very bad design.
Yeah this has been broken for a while now on forerunners. The Devs have already been made aware, they're just in no rush to have it fixed
I'm insured if it works anywhere... I switched hex gear (soulbond )on tywla , left hex with less stats on a wisdom set and in gb1 I auto it and get same damage... I switched diff gear on silas better stats etc and he does the same
So sarcastic. A few days ago I wrote a comment on one of your videos “till the next bug will be found”…
My offensive does not save either
Wow, Moonton is falling apart. What's happening with them?! New management, new staff? Whatever it is, they really need to get it together. They are failing time and time again.
Unacceptable now.
i keep telling this to eveyone in my server, they dont listen. like my def is 100% lost bcoz that gear save thing dont work
Hm... so thats why i loose on def
Thanks for the heads up! 👍
Damn it... Than It wasn't Just me thinking this was bugged! I Lost soo many defenses due to this... 😐😡
And it is worse, as we can't fight ourself to see if the defense is working...
Can we talk about how terrible rewards are for doing arena.? So the event’s grand prize is something you can buy in the shop 3x a week why isn’t it a legendary crystal yet? and then the arena shop rewards, the good rewards you can buy once a month. but in the other shops you can buy weekly. Doesn’t make any sense to push arena in lower to mid levels!
Commenting to support a bug fix
Moontown dont let the players find out the bugs... you proved that you can do better (find out before the player base and communicat to us, you wont need to apologized every update 😅)
Good work.
they ruined my last week rank and owe me a lot. I do not care about their apology!
Their QA sucks. That is a basic check.
This kind of nonsense is why I stopped spending in game. Moonton really needs to clean up their QC.
As always Fastidious work!!!! Like, comment, sub!
When updates come... a bug comes with!
That's why I never rely on any new features in WOR.
Yea i realised this was happening and had to do some actual perfect run that doesnt change much and then dont touch the buttons xD
Was so annoying to regear all champs 2 times cause of this shiit
I knew it this was a bug, plz tell me the devs now and plan fixing and compensation.
We need gear saving for GB1. Gear saving that works, I mean.
I always wondered, don't they hire a single debugger with the money they siphon off from us?😅
Waiting for ingrid as a compensation
same as Xavier without gear
Yeah Moonton should have made triple sure, but trusting them is naive at this point. Everyone comfortable with gear recommendations? I'm sure it's fine. I mean, nobody's mentioned it so lots of folks have verified right?
Definitely bugged! Can’t win a battle at all.
With a proper gear drop system it would not be a problem. And i dont need to change my 4 best gear on my heroes for half a year.
Gear drop quality is killing the game for me. 99% of 99% are trash. RSL gear quality much better….
Just WOW!!!
auto fights make defenders privileged
Some apex coins would be a fair compensation imo
Another day another bugged XD
Geez talk about batting a thousand!
Never had this problem on forerunner. Then again I never update autos after fights, my autos are constant and I manual fights when needed but I never overwrite my autos
It's work for me...
100 gems incoming? lol 😂
You played with different setup and you saving that particular setup. Of course it's saving the new stats. Try it without saving and it will keep that previous geer savings.
Sorry about so many "savings "😅
I'm only at Plat 2 in arena (because I don't like having to play pvp but it's the only way to get some of those resources). However, in AOE, there are a ridiculous number of Bridget and Preatus teams from level 100 and high 90s players in there. Arena is so unbalanced and then there's these bug problems to add to that. PVP should be a separate area off the game, just for those who like pvp and keep it apart from the rest of the game.
Again moonton
Mine has been working fine. My defense and offense. I did not use the new feature though.
I speaking specifically of the new feature
@fastidious_gg makes sense. I didn't even realize it was there 🤣
OMG. I made to apex for the first time Sunday playing manually and I woke up in overlord. It seems like the same IN GVG.
Off topic for sure, but at the end of the videos you say 'I've been fastidious' in the past tense. Who are you between videos?
GvG is suffering from this as well
Fastidious speaks and Moonton listens........maybe make a video on how effed up their summoning fix is and that it still sucks as well? (insert selfish wish for better pulls, not sorry).
its not a bug if you not klick to save the arena used gear, your fail.
Does anyone even worry about arena that much?
Hey moonton, my lawyer advised on a compensation comprising of minimum a free lego :)