I'm going to quit medical school this morning, after years facing depression because I couldn't deal with the anxiety it gives me. I'd like to thank you for the amazing video on the subject and for brightening my morning.
Hello, like it's totally same with me. I've been skipping classes for a while...after being for two months in a medical college. It just doesn't seem where I belong to. But my dad is like, he ain't going to help me otherwise than this medical thing.
I learned this lesson the hard way during my sophomore year. Although I got straight As, I was extremely depressed, sleep deprived, suicidal, and greatly damaged both my physical and mental health. I wish I had known when to stop and re-evaluate my situation, because grades are never worth that type of sacrifice and I wish I hadn't put myself through that type of trauma.
Lydia Adams I have been exactly in ur shoes...n now I have decided it's not worth all the troubles I went through. N I'm so thankful to my family for providing me full support :)
+Sonam Pelden I'm sorry you had to go through mental health struggles as well. Your friends should always love and support you through a decision to better your own well being, it baffles me that they wouldn't, and you definitely deserve better friends in your life.
I wanted to go to PA school up until 2 days ago. It sounds super cliche but I seriously woke up around 4 am and my first thought was “I don’t wanna do this anymore.” I’ve been feeling empty and lost for the last couple of days and I really don’t know what to do. I’m a junior in college and I want to at least finish school but I’m not sure what’s next... I’m scared that my friends and family will judge me and look down on my decisions. I already feel so bad I don’t need people telling me I’m making a huge mistake.
Lydia Adams for me it is sports. I am good but mentally tortured and physically damaged. The people around me don’t see that. They only see me for my use and not my physical or mental body. Though doors will shut. I’m probably going to quit soon.
After reading the comments I feel that Medical students in USA are facing the worst depression and stress in thier lives. Education department should do something about it.
damn lol wish I knew this. the pre med path gave me blood clots in my lungs, depression, and anxiety. Took 3 years into my degree to realize health and happiness come first lol
I'm pre-med rn and I'm thinking of quitting pre-med, but idk if I should keep it I feel like I'd be letting myself down, but I also don't want to hurt my grades/GPA
This is a brilliant video. So many people post videos about never giving up but, as you argued, sometimes it's better to move on rather than invest more time, resources, etc, and not progress. Thanks for this 😊
This is a very good video with some great points in it. I went to medical school for 3 years (but in reality 4 years due to remediation), and recently decided that I needed to move on and leave medical school. For almost 2 years I struggled with the concept of feeling like a quitter if I left without finishing the program and the not persisting through the struggles I already had to endure to stay. But inside, I really did not enjoy clinical sciences and medicine, and over time I realized I didn't have a passion for the job anymore but was merely plugging along still barely passing my classes. Additionally my life balance was terrible and I was very miserable and lonely through the clinical years of medical school. The concept of sunk cost that he makes here is huge, because if that's really the only thing keeping you in (as it was for me) then I really isn't worth it for you to stay in something you don't enjoy. It was a VERY tough decision for me to make, don't get me wrong, but the best mentality to have, like he said, is to move on and use it as a learning experience for the future
My situation is exactly like you except that I quit because I couldn’t cope with it anymore and I’m tired of trying to pass the exam because it’s taking a huge toll on my mental and physical health. Tbh I feel like a failure and suffer from PTSD, everyone say time will heal this but I don’t know if I’ll get over it. Sometimes my brain keep ruminating these thought over and over again but for now I’m able to handle it.
I'm now in the same place where you were. I am now almost completed 3 years in med school and ever since I started clinical sciences I realised that this is not for me. But I still wanted to continue because of same reasons like not wanting to be a quitter, and also due to family pressure. Now I've continued like that for about 1 1/2 years and I'm fed up and can't drag myself forward any more. I'd like to know did you really leave the med school? And do you think it's worth leaving or do you regret your decision?
Mark Mccormick Hey man, I’m in a similar position, I don’t know if i still love this path that I’ve chosen or it’s the social pressure on me that everyone is counting on me becoming a doctor. This is due to the fact that I feel like I’m in a big depression rn and that I suffer both physically and mentally. Can you tell me how did you turn out to be? Please hit me back, I’d really appreciate it.
This video is ABSOLUTELY spoke to me. Perfect timing. I appreciate how you objectively analyze the situations. I love your last quote there, "It is not giving up but rather moving on." Thank you for this real talk type of video.
I quit studying/working in fashion and years later I'm working in accounts. I love fashion and would eventually like to do some work in that field , but accounts was something I thought I wasn't smart enough to do. Now look at me 😁
I left my home 2 weeks ago at 15 years old to live alone with a host family in the US. I left everything at home, my family, my friends, my habits, everything. Everyone tells you that an exchange year is amazing and that homesickness is normal and will disappear with time. I have been in the US for only 2 weeks and the whole vision of my American dream is gone. I am mentally and physically exhausted and am losing myself. I just want to go back home, but my parents tell me that I should give it another chance (1-2 weeks more). But just thinking about staying here makes me feel depressed and alone. My parents did say that they only want me to be happy, so that if I really feel unhappy I should come back. I not just miss my old life but I don't like how my life is turning into, that is why I want to quit. Thank you for this video it helped me understand that I don't have to feel ashamed or guilty for wanting to quit.
Right as I vocalized "hell no!" You said "if your answer is hell no"...this video is too real for me. As a whole med school right now for me is just a miserable experience. This is partly attributable to the pandemic and professors who have gotten lazy as a result. I just do not feel like I am learning anything let alone learning how to treat patients. Right now, it feels like I am a dog asked to meow and it doesnt feel right. I am honestly considering quitting once the semester is over.
@@jamaljubeh3548 I finished my first year but my family is now forcing me into my second year. I really don't want to do it. I'm thinking of just flunking myself out of med school. If only I weren't so dependent on my family in my current situation, I'd have left med school behind and never look back.
@@eis-bl4xw dayum. thanks for the reply Although I’m already on my first semester, I’m still not sure 100% that I’ll continue this tbh. btw where I’m from Medicine takes 6 years in university and you can start it after finishing school
Thanks for this. I recently dropped out of law school and am now pursuing medical school. I realized that I had made a very bad decision in moving to a different country (from Canada to the U.S.) in order to pursue becoming a biglaw lawyer solely for the money. part of why I did it is because my dad died from cancer a couple of years ago and after he died my family (mom included) discovered he had an insane amount of debt that his life insurance only just barely paid off. My mom lost her husband and won't be able to retire for a long while still. I became paranoid about saving and investing money because I didn't want to end up like my father, and law seemed like a secure path to do so, plus I hadn't really thought too hard about what else to do, I just wanted to continue studying. I enjoyed law school, and didn't do badly, but upon networking with many lawyers I realized that I would be unbelievably miserable doing what they do, in some random city in a different country apart from my family and friends. Also the high paying job was not even a guarantee, and despite a near full scholarship to a great school I would've wasted another two years accumulating debt, likely to suffer a breakdown whether I received a high-paying job or not. The healthcare industry had been calling to me even before I decided to go to law school, but I ignored it because I had always been sold on this idea that I had to work in business or entrepreneurship if I wanted to make my dreams come true or be happy or whatever. I remembered that I was most happy when I worked as a lifeguard / swim instructor through college, taking care of and teaching kids, forming meaningful relationships, having the responsibility of having another's life in my hands, etc. But I also enjoy school and a rigorous intellectual challenge. Thankfully, had I not achieved what I did with getting into a top law school (my dream school, making it even harder to quit, actually) I never would've thought I had it in me to go to med school, so in the end it might be only because of this experience that I end up becoming a doctor. I am still reeling from the decision months later. It was very difficult to shed the identity of "lawyer" as well as being a graduate of my chosen school. I put a lot of stock into law school and even deferred for a year before going (for various reasons, one being my father's recent death) and I feel like I completely wasted that year now. I imagine it won't be until I actually get into medical school that I will feel validated by my decision, but who knows. One other thing I learned is how important it is to me to be close to friends and family, and build my life at least somewhat close to them (I was not planning on returning to Canada unless I stopped being a lawyer due to the lower pay and issues with transferability). Its been very rough, but I truly believe had I continued down this path there just would have been a bigger explosion somewhere down the line. I'd have been immediately miserable in the practice of law, may not have even gotten a good job, been alone in a different country, probably would've had relationship issues due to stated aloneness and misery, had unnecessary debt, and then possibly may have been so sucked into the profession that I wouldn't have had the courage to stop. Quitting was the toughest decision I've ever made. I've been depressed, had suicidal thoughts, etc. While this has been the most trying time of my life, even moreso than watching my dad succumb to cancer at a young age, I'm confident that in the future I will look back at it all as a learning experience. One that made me grow up and figure out what I really want my life to look like.
The only thing keeping me in med school is that when i become a MD is having a good salary and feeling important or like a hero. Doctors are also essential workers. Where as if I pursue something in the creative field... those jobs are not "essential". Not to mention financial struggles. Am I going to med school bc i love helping people? No. Do i hate helping people? Ofc no. Is it interesting? Yes. But theres also a lot. I knew getting into med school was going to be hard, but i guess i just didn't care. And now it's hitting me. I am in the second year of the 6 year program of becoming a MD. Idk. Maybe it's better quitting now than waisting more time...
i basically quit football 1 month in, i was basically dreading going to practice and would literally start mentally freaking out when someone asked me how it was going
I studied to be a dialysis tech for a year, at the company I worked for they have what they call a “eat our young” culture. Which basically gives the nurses permission to treat you poorly - I switched clinics, evaluated myself and finally decided it wasn’t for me. Outside of being a tech the next step was being a nurse, I decided I don’t wanna be a nurse anyway so I quit and it felt damn good lol
You know, this video really helped me out. I was actually playing Spore, and making an adventure, but then I realized it was making me miserable, and it probably wasn’t worth it.
After reading the comments here I feel so much better knowing that a majority of people struggle with me. I’ve take an exam now 4 times I only have 2 more tries then I have to repeat the 3 month course I know what I want to do is what I want to do but sometimes I question you myself “ should I stop I’m seeing improvement but will it be enough” I pray to god and look to family/friends for advice and courage I just hope one day I’d get on my knees and say thank while looking at my results of passing my exam.
I quit playing football recently because I didn’t believe in my dream to play in college. I wasn’t progressing nearly as much as I imagined. The coaches already knew the players they wanted. I know I let a lot of people down, but I feel so stress free now. I’m still not quite sure if I made the right decision though.
I chose a career, gave it my all and had no progress for close to 5 years. Missed other opportunities and made sacrifices for this one thing I thought was the one. Now I'm done.😌😌
I totally agree sometimes quitting is the better choice! I tend to forget it quite often, I relentlessly pursue one thing and after a couple weeks, months or years I refuse to give it up even though it would be the best decision! But the fact that I invested so much time or money into one thing makes me crave a positive outcome, which sometimes comes but not always. From now on I will take an more objective view on such things and If needed I will quit such endeavors! Thanks for the great video! I like that one video is resident life and the next is an animated video! Keep up this rhythm! -Personal Power, makes self development videos
Knowing when to quit is such a tough skill to improve upon. You have to be so mindful and able to objectively look at the situation without being emotionally attached.
Anthony Pietrobono Yeah, because you don't know if you're wussing out or making the right logical decision. Then you could look back and think, " what if I tried harder? what if....". It's an extremely difficult skill to obtain in my opinion.
Do you think I made the right choice?..... I am an yr 4 medical student. Once I started clinicals I realized this isn't what I want with my life. I tried a lot of methods to try and cope like exercise, yoga, counseling sessions different study methods, and many more which did help me for a while but I always end up where I started. I've been pushing and forcing myself just because I've survived 4 years, and I thought i should take it to the end. So I ended up suffering from on and off depression which later started triggering panic attacks and suicidal idealation for me. My life had become hell with only 5 hours of sleep, studying, running around the hospital whole day, even studying in the weekends. Not being able to even enjoy watching movies because of that guilt that i can be studying right now since we have alot of studying left. After alot of thinking, I decided that rather than forcing myself to continue med school and eventually worsening my mental health to an extent where I might do self harm, I can take a break from mbbs itself and try and explore other options. I think this decision has been my life saver, I feel so happy and free and see a ray if hope that now I can also have a peaceful happy life. Although i dont have any backup plans yet, I am sure ill soon find something amd be somewhere where I truly belong. I just hope I am doing the right thing and will not regret this later.
philip swedan hey...same pinch! I was thinking of doing that too. But its super difficult to come up with the final decision to quit coz I'm already in final year n all I need to do is pass my final exams!! I have invested 5yrs of my life in MBBS n now I'm so fed up of it....idk what to do! My loved ones want me to continue but I'm super exhausted n idk how much longer I can hold on :(
not that my opinion matters, but you should ask your friends what they think, or your family. I too struggle with anxiety and it makes school way more tough, but i continue to pull through. Do you still enjoy medical school enough to pull yourself through? Do you see a potential career in medicine?
I went to school with a girl that died jumping from her balcony while in medical school. She was apparently too scared to tell her parents so she just wanted out. If you really want to quit, ask yourself if you’d still quit if it was easy? If not, then power through. If you’re quitting because you don’t care about the end goal then maybe quit. Choose life my friends.
I always quit and I always quit before I start it and it makes me feel happy quitting is my way of accomplishing life. It's hard to fail when you have nothing to fail at.
I want to quit soccer but I’m afraid of what my teammates and coaches will think of me.I used to love soccer but I now have a really good passion for basketball and I want to focus on basketball and pursue it but soccer is what is holding me back. I’ve told my parents that I want to quit but they literally won’t let me, I hate soccer now. I believe that If you are not enjoying what you are doing you should quit no matter how good you are
hey man, i know it's easier to say than do but please try not to care about what your teammates and coach think, because they don't know the whole story and unless they do, they can never understand why you made the decision to quit. so it doesn't make sense to give value to their opinions. i hope you can convince your parents to help you quit. good luck!
If you don't enjoy it anymore then you should quit.. You shouldn't do something you don't love. You shouldn't do something just to pleasure others.. If soccer doesn't give you pleasure anymore then quit..Sometimes quitting can be the best decision because you can find other hobbies that you will enjoy
I agree. Great equilibrium in the Psychological analysis of knowing when to quit vs not to quit? As I take this in I have to say "my undergraduate in Biochemistry will be holistic in that if I choose Med School, Dental School, Pharmacy school and or engineering I will be prepared."
I just dropped my COVID-19 forced online Statistics class. I dropped it not because I didn't think I could pass it, but because I've had way too many problems with online tutoring along with other technical issues. I decided I'll retake it when/if school opens up. After my bad experience with online tutoring, and the test format being in a way where I spent more time explaining my answer than actually doing that math problem, I decided to quit it. I learned that any class that requires excessive tutoring should not be taken online IMO.
The thing with me it's that I get distracted during study time, it's weird it's like I start to think things, or do something wrong, I don't get awful grades even if I don't study well, (by the way I'm in first med school year but I have to repeat the year, and it's no going so well. Your inspired me, but they gave me more wiseness to be more conscious about my situation, I like science and medicine but it's hard to focus, and I don't really feel to quit.
Thanks for this video! I've been contemplating medical school for awhile simply because I don't know if my reasons are valuable enough to pursue it (parents, social status, income). This puts things into perspective
I felt the same with school, almost drove myself insane truthfully. BUT I didn't went insane, I actually quit and am doing pretty good now Quit school, if it stress you out. Fuck it
Yes I totally agree....esp if ur physical n mental health is at stake it's totally not worth it. Better just do something else...n I wouldn't call that quitting. That's a wise n a tough decision anyone can make :) n I'm glad I did that too...
Majority of the people in the comments be asking ‘what next after you quit?’. Well, you have to find your way around and it’s easier said than done. For me, I was fortunate enough to get all the time and support to heal from the trauma from med school. After a long gap, I got an admission to a local university where I graduated with academic excellence in Anthropology. I got several job offers after that and currently I’m working in a reputed non-profit organization, doing something I enjoy but not at the expense of my health and happiness!
I started school for something in 2018, I was excited for it at first but then I started becoming frustrated because I'm not very good at what I'm trying to do, and every day I walk back out the door I feel like a failure and am disappointed in myself, I don't want to waste this opportunity because it's free education, but I also don't feel like it's going to work out, thoughts?
Thanks! I just restarted studying, at 53. Not an easy thing to do...since what I study is...meds...go figure. I put this one in my likes. By the way, I love the cats in there, especially the ine with glasses...so cute =^.^=
Hey thanks for the video. It has been long time I am pursuing a project without much results. It was because I had invested so much time that I couldn't give up. It's time to accept the reality and move on. Thanks again
If you've learned something from your experience then you're doing good because trust me i have quitted alot of projects and i learned a great deal of knowledge and experience, now i can easily do some stuff that i really struggled to do
Great topic! I was wondering if u can make a video on how to start on ur vision like if ur not use to have a consistent routine or schedule how u start and groom the skill to use time efficiently. Thank you and ur videos do help a lot!
The vid is great and reminded me of the lessons I have already learned about this topic! I really just miss a mentor in my life with whom I can reflect on my situation with because I KNOW I like to lie to myself sometimes which leads me into a life that feels like chaos and it takes an unnecessary toll on my health
Wow, such great, great advice. You always seem to publish the videos and content I need the most at the perfect time. You're amazing man, thanks so much!
Thank you so much, I needed this to realise that I have given up not because I am not interested anymore, but because I have turned into a sedentary slob in the last couple of years.
well i will try to put this as straightforward as i can regarding the technique you proposed at 2:55 i answered " i will definitely do something different. at the first question" the only problem is with the second question!. that i have only 3 more months to graduate medical school and it's kind of a very stressful time.. realizing that i will not continue on this path and i know for a fact. that i would not wish to become some avg. physician working my butt off. the desire to quit is intense how ever it would be such a waste of time and effort not to continue these 4-3 months and just get my degree! i am have a few opportunities to pursue that i am sure will give me more of sense of achievement. thanks for the video it's simple helpful!
Good video. My kid is considering moving on from a sport he has done for 7 years. He's done it bc I invested him in it. Lately he's struggled bc he isn't big. But, even though I'm realizing the errors of my ways & supporting him now, he says he loves it. But, could be he is just saying things to make me happy. Anyhow, he'll talk it over with the coach.
I want to quit my study... I don't think I really want to have bachelor's degree...but I think I will regret later...can anyone give me advice what should I do?
Just the fact everything isn't for everyone my instructor told me driving trucks isn't for me after I drove on a curb. I can't back I've has 4 instructor's tell me the same thing why. Keep going when I'm not going to pass the test I gave it my all.
You didn't address that having $500,000+ in undischargeable federal student loan debt is the REAL underlying incentive not to quit, that has nothing to do with emotional investments.
I just had my class registration open today and I woke up super early and registered as soon as the portal opened just to try to sign up for my classes. But unfortunately, I'm waitlisted on most of my pre-requisite classes that could hold me back... Although my head hurts from this stress, I think that I will stick with it and I'm not just about to quit on this road block. There's still some hope, right? I'm not giving up that easily, I'll adapt and if I have to take summer courses then so be it! This was very helpful and as always, Perfect timing Jay! THANK YOU!! EDIT: I had typos, oops!
Bdot I trained handball for 5 years, the team has become my second family, and during that fifth year I damaged both my knees (meniscus’s if you’re wondering), I was afraid of what everyone would think (just like you) but I managed to quit. I don’t regret my decision even today (3 years after). Best of luck !
I just got through into medschool cracking one of the toughest exams in the country. Now I slowly came to find out my passion was business and my skills are in business and networking. Now i lost passion in med school. Im confused if quitting is the right thing coz people keep warning me that ill regret...yet being a doctor isn't as easy as it seems and the studies itself pull me down and lowering my efficiency in my business. Please guide me
Im a freshman in high school i mad the freshman basketball team. We had some practices and Im just not feeling It, I don't feel happy but I love basketball. Im debating if I should continue being on the team and me miserable or do I quit. If I quit i dont think I will ever play basketball again in High school. Someone PLEASE GIVE ME ADVICE!!!!!1
If you don’t feel it after a few practices then, I personally would stop. It is better to give yourself a break than to risk turning something you love into something you may come to hate. You have plenty of time ahead of you in your high school career and even in college! If basketball is something you truly love, then it will come back to you when you are ready. I hope this helps :)
Hey Jay do you listen to the Tim Ferriss show because he just did an episode on this in his Tim Ferriss radio hour and it was all on quitting. Episode 254. I am going to go out on a limb and say that's where the inspiration for this video came from because it's point by point what is covered in the podcast. Great video, happy to see my worlds intersecting. Good job on distilling it down to 7 minutes.
I left the path of my dreams because I started to realize that I was pursuing a dead end, the only thing I'm sticking with is working a nine-to-five job
What if your 3 young kids, and constant school closing, schoolvacations, both neighbours rebuilding their houses, creating a lot of construction noise from 6 in the morning til 8 at night, make it impossible to study?
I'm in pharmacy school right now and that shit is haaaard And ever since I joined I now have anxiety.. sometimes I have to take meds, depression and I'm always suicidal..and I've decided to defer for a couple of years until I'm better I hope this is a good decision though I don't even know what I'll do during that time
I wrestled for 10 years and my body could not take it anymore after I broke my leg, I retired/quit the sport. I was shamed by my teammates and coaches for my decision, 3 years later I was inducted into my youth leagues hall of fame
Jay, this question only applies to you since it is personal, so its not really an advice question. But when you were in medical school, what subject (or group of subjects) would you say was the toughest? Or, rather, if you had more time to study during your undergrad, what would you have studied to make medical school easier? [for me, i am 21 years old and have been attending community college for quiet awhile. I am getting multiple Associates degrees and then transferring to a 4 year. Due to the way my classes are arranged, I will literally be spending another 4 years in undergrad. I literally have so much time on my hands that I am curious how I am able to get ahead in studying. the reason i ask the question above is because if memorizing long lists during medical school was a heavy burden, then I would want to get started now! I am just not sure what area of study would have the highest impact on making medical school any easier. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!!]
I quit the viola a year ago because I got yelled and tormented at how bad I was. My mom keeps telling me how I should redo the viola even though she told me to quit a month prior. I feel guilty for quitting and I like the viola, but I don’t know if I like the viola or I want to do it to stop being tormented.
I'm going to quit medical school this morning, after years facing depression because I couldn't deal with the anxiety it gives me. I'd like to thank you for the amazing video on the subject and for brightening my morning.
What you doing after quitting ?
Same with my soccer team. I’ve been getting hella anxiety and it’s been stoping me from doing my school work
Hello, like it's totally same with me. I've been skipping classes for a while...after being for two months in a medical college. It just doesn't seem where I belong to. But my dad is like, he ain't going to help me otherwise than this medical thing.
Jemima Sharmin Lamiya Then help yourself :)
@@stevix8043 I wish I could. I just need the financial aid...what else?
I learned this lesson the hard way during my sophomore year. Although I got straight As, I was extremely depressed, sleep deprived, suicidal, and greatly damaged both my physical and mental health. I wish I had known when to stop and re-evaluate my situation, because grades are never worth that type of sacrifice and I wish I hadn't put myself through that type of trauma.
+Med School Insiders Thank you
Lydia Adams I have been exactly in ur shoes...n now I have decided it's not worth all the troubles I went through. N I'm so thankful to my family for providing me full support :)
+Sonam Pelden I'm sorry you had to go through mental health struggles as well. Your friends should always love and support you through a decision to better your own well being, it baffles me that they wouldn't, and you definitely deserve better friends in your life.
I wanted to go to PA school up until 2 days ago. It sounds super cliche but I seriously woke up around 4 am and my first thought was “I don’t wanna do this anymore.” I’ve been feeling empty and lost for the last couple of days and I really don’t know what to do. I’m a junior in college and I want to at least finish school but I’m not sure what’s next... I’m scared that my friends and family will judge me and look down on my decisions. I already feel so bad I don’t need people telling me I’m making a huge mistake.
Lydia Adams for me it is sports. I am good but mentally tortured and physically damaged. The people around me don’t see that. They only see me for my use and not my physical or mental body. Though doors will shut. I’m probably going to quit soon.
I feel like the 'sunk cost fallacy' applies to relationships as well. Quitting is sometimes necessary.
This needs to be taught in school, so more people are able to properly gauge what is working in and what isn't. It really applies to life as a whole.
After reading the comments I feel that Medical students in USA are facing the worst depression and stress in thier lives. Education department should do something about it.
FUCK education departments around the world those are the worst enemies to humanity and growth
damn lol wish I knew this. the pre med path gave me blood clots in my lungs, depression, and anxiety. Took 3 years into my degree to realize health and happiness come first lol
I'm pre-med rn and I'm thinking of quitting pre-med, but idk if I should keep it I feel like I'd be letting myself down, but I also don't want to hurt my grades/GPA
@@johncoleman1930 same with me .please Let me know what you did ,
@@muhammadasawarakram9047 And my GPA has improved
In the same boat
Dedicated 5 years but cant deal with stress anymore
This is a brilliant video. So many people post videos about never giving up but, as you argued, sometimes it's better to move on rather than invest more time, resources, etc, and not progress. Thanks for this 😊
This is a very good video with some great points in it. I went to medical school for 3 years (but in reality 4 years due to remediation), and recently decided that I needed to move on and leave medical school. For almost 2 years I struggled with the concept of feeling like a quitter if I left without finishing the program and the not persisting through the struggles I already had to endure to stay. But inside, I really did not enjoy clinical sciences and medicine, and over time I realized I didn't have a passion for the job anymore but was merely plugging along still barely passing my classes. Additionally my life balance was terrible and I was very miserable and lonely through the clinical years of medical school. The concept of sunk cost that he makes here is huge, because if that's really the only thing keeping you in (as it was for me) then I really isn't worth it for you to stay in something you don't enjoy. It was a VERY tough decision for me to make, don't get me wrong, but the best mentality to have, like he said, is to move on and use it as a learning experience for the future
My situation is exactly like you except that I quit because I couldn’t cope with it anymore and I’m tired of trying to pass the exam because it’s taking a huge toll on my mental and physical health. Tbh I feel like a failure and suffer from PTSD, everyone say time will heal this but I don’t know if I’ll get over it. Sometimes my brain keep ruminating these thought over and over again but for now I’m able to handle it.
I'm now in the same place where you were. I am now almost completed 3 years in med school and ever since I started clinical sciences I realised that this is not for me.
But I still wanted to continue because of same reasons like not wanting to be a quitter, and also due to family pressure. Now I've continued like that for about 1 1/2 years and I'm fed up and can't drag myself forward any more.
I'd like to know did you really leave the med school?
And do you think it's worth leaving or do you regret your decision?
Mark Mccormick Hey man, I’m in a similar position, I don’t know if i still love this path that I’ve chosen or it’s the social pressure on me that everyone is counting on me becoming a doctor. This is due to the fact that I feel like I’m in a big depression rn and that I suffer both physically and mentally. Can you tell me how did you turn out to be? Please hit me back, I’d really appreciate it.
But it's hard to answer society or parents who expected a lot from us
My brother told me" work smarter, not harder" it helps me sometimes
This video is ABSOLUTELY spoke to me. Perfect timing. I appreciate how you objectively analyze the situations. I love your last quote there, "It is not giving up but rather moving on." Thank you for this real talk type of video.
Don’t just hold on because you’ve put in a lot of effort
I quit studying/working in fashion and years later I'm working in accounts. I love fashion and would eventually like to do some work in that field , but accounts was something I thought I wasn't smart enough to do. Now look at me 😁
i completely agree!!! its not quitting. its stopping and reanalyse!!!
Thinking about quitting basketball but dont know when to quit😭
I left my home 2 weeks ago at 15 years old to live alone with a host family in the US. I left everything at home, my family, my friends, my habits, everything. Everyone tells you that an exchange year is amazing and that homesickness is normal and will disappear with time. I have been in the US for only 2 weeks and the whole vision of my American dream is gone. I am mentally and physically exhausted and am losing myself. I just want to go back home, but my parents tell me that I should give it another chance (1-2 weeks more). But just thinking about staying here makes me feel depressed and alone. My parents did say that they only want me to be happy, so that if I really feel unhappy I should come back. I not just miss my old life but I don't like how my life is turning into, that is why I want to quit. Thank you for this video it helped me understand that I don't have to feel ashamed or guilty for wanting to quit.
not a med student, but i love the content you post! it helps me re-evaluate/improve daily decisions, thank you :)
the amount of cats in this channel is glorious
I agree
Yeeeeeess! I loved it! Lol.
huh
Right as I vocalized "hell no!" You said "if your answer is hell no"...this video is too real for me.
As a whole med school right now for me is just a miserable experience. This is partly attributable to the pandemic and professors who have gotten lazy as a result. I just do not feel like I am learning anything let alone learning how to treat patients. Right now, it feels like I am a dog asked to meow and it doesnt feel right.
I am honestly considering quitting once the semester is over.
What you did ? Please can you give update on this ,please
@@muhammadasawarakram9047 Still here, still miserable...Im just a masochist at this point.
@@eis-bl4xw Can you give another update, Im on my first semester of Med
@@jamaljubeh3548 I finished my first year but my family is now forcing me into my second year. I really don't want to do it. I'm thinking of just flunking myself out of med school. If only I weren't so dependent on my family in my current situation, I'd have left med school behind and never look back.
@@eis-bl4xw
dayum. thanks for the reply
Although I’m already on my first semester, I’m still not sure 100% that I’ll continue this tbh.
btw where I’m from Medicine takes 6 years in university and you can start it after finishing school
Thanks for this. I recently dropped out of law school and am now pursuing medical school. I realized that I had made a very bad decision in moving to a different country (from Canada to the U.S.) in order to pursue becoming a biglaw lawyer solely for the money. part of why I did it is because my dad died from cancer a couple of years ago and after he died my family (mom included) discovered he had an insane amount of debt that his life insurance only just barely paid off. My mom lost her husband and won't be able to retire for a long while still. I became paranoid about saving and investing money because I didn't want to end up like my father, and law seemed like a secure path to do so, plus I hadn't really thought too hard about what else to do, I just wanted to continue studying. I enjoyed law school, and didn't do badly, but upon networking with many lawyers I realized that I would be unbelievably miserable doing what they do, in some random city in a different country apart from my family and friends. Also the high paying job was not even a guarantee, and despite a near full scholarship to a great school I would've wasted another two years accumulating debt, likely to suffer a breakdown whether I received a high-paying job or not.
The healthcare industry had been calling to me even before I decided to go to law school, but I ignored it because I had always been sold on this idea that I had to work in business or entrepreneurship if I wanted to make my dreams come true or be happy or whatever. I remembered that I was most happy when I worked as a lifeguard / swim instructor through college, taking care of and teaching kids, forming meaningful relationships, having the responsibility of having another's life in my hands, etc. But I also enjoy school and a rigorous intellectual challenge. Thankfully, had I not achieved what I did with getting into a top law school (my dream school, making it even harder to quit, actually) I never would've thought I had it in me to go to med school, so in the end it might be only because of this experience that I end up becoming a doctor.
I am still reeling from the decision months later. It was very difficult to shed the identity of "lawyer" as well as being a graduate of my chosen school. I put a lot of stock into law school and even deferred for a year before going (for various reasons, one being my father's recent death) and I feel like I completely wasted that year now. I imagine it won't be until I actually get into medical school that I will feel validated by my decision, but who knows. One other thing I learned is how important it is to me to be close to friends and family, and build my life at least somewhat close to them (I was not planning on returning to Canada unless I stopped being a lawyer due to the lower pay and issues with transferability). Its been very rough, but I truly believe had I continued down this path there just would have been a bigger explosion somewhere down the line. I'd have been immediately miserable in the practice of law, may not have even gotten a good job, been alone in a different country, probably would've had relationship issues due to stated aloneness and misery, had unnecessary debt, and then possibly may have been so sucked into the profession that I wouldn't have had the courage to stop.
Quitting was the toughest decision I've ever made. I've been depressed, had suicidal thoughts, etc. While this has been the most trying time of my life, even moreso than watching my dad succumb to cancer at a young age, I'm confident that in the future I will look back at it all as a learning experience. One that made me grow up and figure out what I really want my life to look like.
i m in a situation where i have to reevaluate my decision of pursuing medical..need to move on...but the sunk cost fallacy is stopping me
The only thing keeping me in med school is that when i become a MD is having a good salary and feeling important or like a hero. Doctors are also essential workers. Where as if I pursue something in the creative field... those jobs are not "essential". Not to mention financial struggles. Am I going to med school bc i love helping people? No. Do i hate helping people? Ofc no. Is it interesting? Yes. But theres also a lot.
I knew getting into med school was going to be hard, but i guess i just didn't care. And now it's hitting me. I am in the second year of the 6 year program of becoming a MD. Idk. Maybe it's better quitting now than waisting more time...
And its not that i am bad at it. My grades are great. But its not like i am having fun. Im just lost
i basically quit football 1 month in, i was basically dreading going to practice and would literally start mentally freaking out when someone asked me how it was going
I studied to be a dialysis tech for a year, at the company I worked for they have what they call a “eat our young” culture. Which basically gives the nurses permission to treat you poorly - I switched clinics, evaluated myself and finally decided it wasn’t for me. Outside of being a tech the next step was being a nurse, I decided I don’t wanna be a nurse anyway so I quit and it felt damn good lol
You know, this video really helped me out. I was actually playing Spore, and making an adventure, but then I realized it was making me miserable, and it probably wasn’t worth it.
After reading the comments here I feel so much better knowing that a majority of people struggle with me. I’ve take an exam now 4 times I only have 2 more tries then I have to repeat the 3 month course I know what I want to do is what I want to do but sometimes I question you myself “ should I stop I’m seeing improvement but will it be enough” I pray to god and look to family/friends for advice and courage I just hope one day I’d get on my knees and say thank while looking at my results of passing my exam.
Man I want to quit medical school, but I do not know what I would do if I quit medical school especially to pay back my debts
I quit playing football recently because I didn’t believe in my dream to play in college. I wasn’t progressing nearly as much as I imagined. The coaches already knew the players they wanted. I know I let a lot of people down, but I feel so stress free now. I’m still not quite sure if I made the right decision though.
Hey I’m kind of in the same position right now. I’m not sure if I should stick with my sport. How do u feel now about ur decision?
I chose a career, gave it my all and had no progress for close to 5 years. Missed other opportunities and made sacrifices for this one thing I thought was the one.
Now I'm done.😌😌
How did u overcome after quitting and what u answer society, family
Never thought of it that way. Great topic and good insight. :)
Med School Insiders I enjoy your videos immensely. :) Keep it up. :)
I totally agree sometimes quitting is the better choice!
I tend to forget it quite often, I relentlessly pursue one thing
and after a couple weeks, months or years I refuse to give it
up even though it would be the best decision! But the fact
that I invested so much time or money into one thing makes
me crave a positive outcome, which sometimes comes but not always.
From now on I will take an more objective view on such things
and If needed I will quit such endeavors!
Thanks for the great video!
I like that one video is resident life and the next is an animated video!
Keep up this rhythm!
-Personal Power, makes self development videos
I'm the same way lol Especially if I'm the underdog.
Knowing when to quit is such a tough skill to improve upon. You have to be so mindful and able to objectively look at the situation without being emotionally attached.
Anthony Pietrobono Yeah, because you don't know if you're wussing out or making the right logical decision. Then you could look back and think, " what if I tried harder? what if....". It's an extremely difficult skill to obtain in my opinion.
Agreeeed.
Do you think I made the right choice?.....
I am an yr 4 medical student. Once I started clinicals I realized this isn't what I want with my life. I tried a lot of methods to try and cope like exercise, yoga, counseling sessions different study methods, and many more which did help me for a while but I always end up where I started. I've been pushing and forcing myself just because I've survived 4 years, and I thought i should take it to the end. So I ended up suffering from on and off depression which later started triggering panic attacks and suicidal idealation for me. My life had become hell with only 5 hours of sleep, studying, running around the hospital whole day, even studying in the weekends. Not being able to even enjoy watching movies because of that guilt that i can be studying right now since we have alot of studying left. After alot of thinking, I decided that rather than forcing myself to continue med school and eventually worsening my mental health to an extent where I might do self harm, I can take a break from mbbs itself and try and explore other options. I think this decision has been my life saver, I feel so happy and free and see a ray if hope that now I can also have a peaceful happy life. Although i dont have any backup plans yet, I am sure ill soon find something amd be somewhere where I truly belong. I just hope I am doing the right thing and will not regret this later.
Just in the right time , i'm thinking about dropping out from med school cause it caused anxiety and depression but i still don't know
Do not drop out. Quit when you have become a doctor you to close to the end.
philip swedan The depression will end once you beat Med School. I suggest you stay.
Follow your heart ❤️
philip swedan hey...same pinch! I was thinking of doing that too. But its super difficult to come up with the final decision to quit coz I'm already in final year n all I need to do is pass my final exams!! I have invested 5yrs of my life in MBBS n now I'm so fed up of it....idk what to do! My loved ones want me to continue but I'm super exhausted n idk how much longer I can hold on :(
not that my opinion matters, but you should ask your friends what they think, or your family.
I too struggle with anxiety and it makes school way more tough, but i continue to pull through. Do you still enjoy medical school enough to pull yourself through?
Do you see a potential career in medicine?
I went to school with a girl that died jumping from her balcony while in medical school. She was apparently too scared to tell her parents so she just wanted out.
If you really want to quit, ask yourself if you’d still quit if it was easy? If not, then power through.
If you’re quitting because you don’t care about the end goal then maybe quit.
Choose life my friends.
I always quit and I always quit before I start it and it makes me feel happy quitting is my way of accomplishing life. It's hard to fail when you have nothing to fail at.
Quitting life thanks G, gave me the push I need!
I want to quit soccer but I’m afraid of what my teammates and coaches will think of me.I used to love soccer but I now have a really good passion for basketball and I want to focus on basketball and pursue it but soccer is what is holding me back. I’ve told my parents that I want to quit but they literally won’t let me, I hate soccer now.
I believe that If you are not enjoying what you are doing you should quit no matter how good you are
hey man, i know it's easier to say than do but please try not to care about what your teammates and coach think, because they don't know the whole story and unless they do, they can never understand why you made the decision to quit. so it doesn't make sense to give value to their opinions. i hope you can convince your parents to help you quit. good luck!
If you don't enjoy it anymore then you should quit.. You shouldn't do something you don't love. You shouldn't do something just to pleasure others.. If soccer doesn't give you pleasure anymore then quit..Sometimes quitting can be the best decision because you can find other hobbies that you will enjoy
The Drawings are back! Yay! Love your vlogs Jay, but I honestly missed this type of videos. Thank you!
I agree. Great equilibrium in the Psychological analysis of knowing when to quit vs not to quit? As I take this in I have to say "my undergraduate in Biochemistry will be holistic in that if I choose Med School, Dental School, Pharmacy school and or engineering I will be prepared."
I just dropped my COVID-19 forced online Statistics class. I dropped it not because I didn't think I could pass it, but because I've had way too many problems with online tutoring along with other technical issues. I decided I'll retake it when/if school opens up. After my bad experience with online tutoring, and the test format being in a way where I spent more time explaining my answer than actually doing that math problem, I decided to quit it. I learned that any class that requires excessive tutoring should not be taken online IMO.
The thing with me it's that I get distracted during study time, it's weird it's like I start to think things, or do something wrong, I don't get awful grades even if I don't study well, (by the way I'm in first med school year but I have to repeat the year, and it's no going so well. Your inspired me, but they gave me more wiseness to be more conscious about my situation, I like science and medicine but it's hard to focus, and I don't really feel to quit.
Thanks for this video! I've been contemplating medical school for awhile simply because I don't know if my reasons are valuable enough to pursue it (parents, social status, income). This puts things into perspective
I felt the same with school, almost drove myself insane truthfully.
BUT
I didn't went insane, I actually quit and am doing pretty good now
Quit school, if it stress you out.
Fuck it
Your best video yet! This one truly spoke to me!
This helps a lot think I’m gonna quit my sport team love the sport just not the team.I can quit with the comfort it was the right thing for me:)
Thanks for this. Consider fear of the unknown as another driver that keeps people in place.
Yes I totally agree....esp if ur physical n mental health is at stake it's totally not worth it. Better just do something else...n I wouldn't call that quitting. That's a wise n a tough decision anyone can make :) n I'm glad I did that too...
Majority of the people in the comments be asking ‘what next after you quit?’. Well, you have to find your way around and it’s easier said than done. For me, I was fortunate enough to get all the time and support to heal from the trauma from med school. After a long gap, I got an admission to a local university where I graduated with academic excellence in Anthropology. I got several job offers after that and currently I’m working in a reputed non-profit organization, doing something I enjoy but not at the expense of my health and happiness!
I too invested 5 years in medical school but yet in 3 year want to quit is it wrong Bcz my mental health became worse
Thank you for your thoughts.
I also find that I learn much better when you produce this kind of video.
Loved the video! Huzzah for online education delivering the packages that public education never even picked up in the first place!
I started school for something in 2018, I was excited for it at first but then I started becoming frustrated because I'm not very good at what I'm trying to do, and every day I walk back out the door I feel like a failure and am disappointed in myself, I don't want to waste this opportunity because it's free education, but I also don't feel like it's going to work out, thoughts?
I am in the same situation right now I am really sorry that nobody wander your question tho j hope you found the answer
You're amazing man... Words can't express my gratitude... THANK YOU
Keep it up Jesus... Show us the path... haha
Thanks Jay. Your vids are a great help to all of us
Thanks! I just restarted studying, at 53. Not an easy thing to do...since what I study is...meds...go figure.
I put this one in my likes.
By the way, I love the cats in there, especially the ine with glasses...so cute =^.^=
Love these videos!
Hey thanks for the video. It has been long time I am pursuing a project without much results. It was because I had invested so much time that I couldn't give up. It's time to accept the reality and move on. Thanks again
What do i do after though? I would be homeless, with no money and no home. And no good future ahead
If you've learned something from your experience then you're doing good because trust me i have quitted alot of projects and i learned a great deal of knowledge and experience, now i can easily do some stuff that i really struggled to do
Great topic! I was wondering if u can make a video on how to start on ur vision like if ur not use to have a consistent routine or schedule how u start and groom the skill to use time efficiently. Thank you and ur videos do help a lot!
I love this video. very supportive to people who change their life careers.
The vid is great and reminded me of the lessons I have already learned about this topic! I really just miss a mentor in my life with whom I can reflect on my situation with because I KNOW I like to lie to myself sometimes which leads me into a life that feels like chaos and it takes an unnecessary toll on my health
Wow, such great, great advice. You always seem to publish the videos and content I need the most at the perfect time. You're amazing man, thanks so much!
I needed this. Thank you :)
Thanks 4 making video today only i was thinking to quit
Thank you so much, I needed this to realise that I have given up not because I am not interested anymore, but because I have turned into a sedentary slob in the last couple of years.
well i will try to put this as straightforward as i can regarding the technique you proposed at 2:55
i answered " i will definitely do something different. at the first question"
the only problem is with the second question!. that i have only 3 more months to graduate medical school and it's kind of a very stressful time.. realizing that i will not continue on this path and i know for a fact. that i would not wish to become some avg. physician working my butt off.
the desire to quit is intense how ever it would be such a waste of time and effort not to continue these 4-3 months and just get my degree!
i am have a few opportunities to pursue that i am sure will give me more of sense of achievement.
thanks for the video it's simple helpful!
Good video. My kid is considering moving on from a sport he has done for 7 years. He's done it bc I invested him in it. Lately he's struggled bc he isn't big. But, even though I'm realizing the errors of my ways & supporting him now, he says he loves it. But, could be he is just saying things to make me happy.
Anyhow, he'll talk it over with the coach.
I love your videos and ways of explaining things! And can I just say how hilarious it was that you were drawing cats at the end 😂👍👍
Thank you for making this video. Very helpful. I'm quitting remodeling! I'm done!!! NO...MORE!!!!!!
I want to quit my study... I don't think I really want to have bachelor's degree...but I think I will regret later...can anyone give me advice what should I do?
i love your channel. thanks.
Wow, awesome topic and great info. Love your channel!
Just the fact everything isn't for everyone my instructor told me driving trucks isn't for me after I drove on a curb. I can't back I've has 4 instructor's tell me the same thing why. Keep going when I'm not going to pass the test I gave it my all.
Great perspective! I'll definitely keep this in mind!
You didn't address that having $500,000+ in undischargeable federal student loan debt is the REAL underlying incentive not to quit, that has nothing to do with emotional investments.
Whats the solution
I also quit med school last year even though i was the person getting straight A s from exams on a regular basis.
I just had my class registration open today and I woke up super early and registered as soon as the portal opened just to try to sign up for my classes. But unfortunately, I'm waitlisted on most of my pre-requisite classes that could hold me back... Although my head hurts from this stress, I think that I will stick with it and I'm not just about to quit on this road block. There's still some hope, right? I'm not giving up that easily, I'll adapt and if I have to take summer courses then so be it!
This was very helpful and as always, Perfect timing Jay!
THANK YOU!!
EDIT: I had typos, oops!
i needed this video soo bad rn thanks a lot for this video
I cannot understand what is there to "unlike" in this video?
I want to quit the basketball team but im scared of what the coaches and teammates would think
Bdot I trained handball for 5 years, the team has become my second family, and during that fifth year I damaged both my knees (meniscus’s if you’re wondering), I was afraid of what everyone would think (just like you) but I managed to quit. I don’t regret my decision even today (3 years after). Best of luck !
Insightful, as always. The "Lambo" part made me chuckle.
Thanks man... Moving on :)
I just got through into medschool cracking one of the toughest exams in the country. Now I slowly came to find out my passion was business and my skills are in business and networking. Now i lost passion in med school. Im confused if quitting is the right thing coz people keep warning me that ill regret...yet being a doctor isn't as easy as it seems and the studies itself pull me down and lowering my efficiency in my business. Please guide me
Im a freshman in high school i mad the freshman basketball team. We had some practices and Im just not feeling It, I don't feel happy but I love basketball. Im debating if I should continue being on the team and me miserable or do I quit. If I quit i dont think I will ever play basketball again in High school. Someone PLEASE GIVE ME ADVICE!!!!!1
If you don’t feel it after a few practices then, I personally would stop. It is better to give yourself a break than to risk turning something you love into something you may come to hate. You have plenty of time ahead of you in your high school career and even in college! If basketball is something you truly love, then it will come back to you when you are ready. I hope this helps :)
@@lilianboffin4678 than you would you also mind checking my youtube out
Hey Jay do you listen to the Tim Ferriss show because he just did an episode on this in his Tim Ferriss radio hour and it was all on quitting. Episode 254. I am going to go out on a limb and say that's where the inspiration for this video came from because it's point by point what is covered in the podcast. Great video, happy to see my worlds intersecting. Good job on distilling it down to 7 minutes.
Your cat drawings make me happy :)
This was a great video!!! And lol, you should have cats in your videos more often, it was adorable XD
that was an amazing video cx
I left the path of my dreams because I started to realize that I was pursuing a dead end, the only thing I'm sticking with is working a nine-to-five job
What if your 3 young kids, and constant school closing, schoolvacations, both neighbours rebuilding their houses, creating a lot of construction noise from 6 in the morning til 8 at night, make it impossible to study?
Now I know what Harry Truman meant when he said that he wanted to hire only one-armed economists. He was tired of hearing, "...but on the other hand."
So how can I help my sleep? I will be starting back to university soon and have really bad sleeping problems while I am there.
I'm in pharmacy school right now and that shit is haaaard
And ever since I joined I now have anxiety.. sometimes I have to take meds, depression and I'm always suicidal..and I've decided to defer for a couple of years until I'm better
I hope this is a good decision though I don't even know what I'll do during that time
I wrestled for 10 years and my body could not take it anymore after I broke my leg, I retired/quit the sport. I was shamed by my teammates and coaches for my decision, 3 years later I was inducted into my youth leagues hall of fame
never.
great advice
Early squad where u at doe?
Thank youuuuu!!!!!!!!!!
Jay, this question only applies to you since it is personal, so its not really an advice question. But when you were in medical school, what subject (or group of subjects) would you say was the toughest?
Or, rather, if you had more time to study during your undergrad, what would you have studied to make medical school easier?
[for me, i am 21 years old and have been attending community college for quiet awhile. I am getting multiple Associates degrees and then transferring to a 4 year. Due to the way my classes are arranged, I will literally be spending another 4 years in undergrad. I literally have so much time on my hands that I am curious how I am able to get ahead in studying. the reason i ask the question above is because if memorizing long lists during medical school was a heavy burden, then I would want to get started now! I am just not sure what area of study would have the highest impact on making medical school any easier. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!!]
Saw it, thank you, sir 😊
I quit the viola a year ago because I got yelled and tormented at how bad I was. My mom keeps telling me how I should redo the viola even though she told me to quit a month prior. I feel guilty for quitting and I like the viola, but I don’t know if I like the viola or I want to do it to stop being tormented.
Awesome
The number of cats in this video is tasteful