Mine came today at 11am and it's currently 4.40am and I've just turned it off so I can go to bed in a minute, I have a high end gaming PC (ryzen 7 7700x rtx 3080ti 32gbs of ddr5 6600mghz ram my pc can play every game at 1440p ultra settings easily 100ish fps or higher, and yet I still weirdly enough had more fun on the steamdeck lmao) the steamdeck oled is a fantastic piece of kit
Literally selling some stuff just so I can buy one in the next few days, been watching countless should I videos, hoping to make the best decision for an investment like this. I travel a lot and I take my Series S with me everywhere I go but it’s a lot to tote around and I can’t even play it on airplanes. But tired of watching so many videos
They would never release 3.0 before the desktop. They want everyone to have the option to first buy a super powerful Steam machine, then, they will release Steam OS to the masses and watch the PC market fall right into their pocket as people realize that Linux/SteamOS is KING!!!
It absolutely is releasing before desktop Lenovo is announcing a steam os device in like a week. Valve won't release desktop until Nvidia drivers are ready they won't release it if 70% of the market can't use it that would be hilariously stupid of valve.
I hear you. But I hard disagree here. Anyone else I’d say you’re spot on. But this is Valve. I’d almost certainly expect Steam OS to fully release before any hardware
Bought my Steam Deck back when they wanted 5 dollars to put it on hold and had three days to pay it off. I still use it for my portable gaming device and my tiny pc (Geekom 13; no Gpu) for when I'm home. I'm an old Gamer (50 today) so I go all the way back to the Atari 2600 as a kid, Nintendo, Palm, etc. I love this whole new scene that Steam Deck got rolling with Arch Linux. They're really got this (Steam) rolling here and I'm all for it. Thanks Jimmy for another cool review.
At this point, it feels like Valve knows something we don’t when it comes to windows dual booting support. It’s heavily rumoured that MS are working on a dedicated handheld OS. Potentially something we hear about at CES. If that’s the case I would imagine they’re holding off on dual boot support until that is in the wild. Rather than putting in the effort of a dual boot wizard for a bloated windows OS that nobody ultimately wants
@@leonbestfrenemy7681just install Win2go on an external SSD. I have it installed on a 2tb SSD thats physically very small (not much bigger than a business card. It's held in place by a small velcro dot. Works great. Not as streamlind as native dual boot but works for me.
@@MrRoundthetwist honestly, xbox and Playstation priced-me-out this gen. Couldn't justify the cost of gaming. But when I humored the option of the Steam Deck, and saw its ability to download previous versions of owned games, the off-line mode, and desktop mode...I saw the vast potential of the platform. I invested and and never looked back. The Deck and Switch were worth every penny in my opinion! ❤️
@@StiffAftermath may I ask what do you mean by “download PREVIOUS versions of owned games”? That said, great thread… I’m currently just a Nintendo Switch guy with a side ROG Ally which I ended up using for a few hours (nothing against the handheld, it’s amazing, just don’t have the time to play anymore). SteamOS everywhere though, that would be sick.
Imagine using the deck itself as a controller for the steam machine. Using the decks screen as a secondary screen for games on the TV. Oh the possibilities!!
I know what you mean about Windows. I got rid of Windows10 and installed Linux on my gaming Laptop, and I don't regret it. I think Valve should start to sell Steam Decks in stores across the world, because I showed off my Steam Deck OLED to four of my gaming friends, and they were blown away by it and now are thinking about getting one themselves. The thing is they had never even herd of a Steam Deck before. So that means there is a huge %age of gamers stuck with a Switch & to be honest we all know the Steam Deck kicks the Switches ass lol.
Suggests to me that Valve need to start doing mass marketing campaigns to reach new audiences. We know how great they are, but they are not a household name to a lot of people like the Nintendo switch. And it's a crying shame. Valve put us first!
@@jordycrumpet I agree with you 100%. Come on Valve the best way to get new customers is show your awesome products off in real world stores, instead of hiding them online.
Anyone else feel like switch 2 will be less powerful that the steam deck? Lol I mean Nintendo knows they can get away with giving the most miniscule update and people and fanboys will buy it because the switch is so badly outdated lol My old Pixel C tablet was released in 2015 with the Tegra X1 and the switch used that chip over 2 years later lol
I bought my steam deck about a month ago & love it for being able to take my steam library on the go. That said i am also coming to the realization that getting it to do any more then that can be a headache to accomplish. Rather then it being a All in one portal gaming system it seems to be the steam version of the switch.
You do realize epic games wouldn’t sue them, it’s their fault it’s not compatible. The anti cheat is the reason a lot of multiplayer games don’t work. And the companies are to lazy to make it work, there are work arounds.
Epic games did good things for us gamers. They forced Apple and Google to play nice with app stores. Which will make gaming cheaper for us. They made the unreal engine, etc.
I like your predictions. I’ll quickly mention the cheaper Steam Box already exists as a Steam Deck docked. I have been impressed with how well it performs (having proper expectations for a small package upscaling).
I really hope dual booting officially comes out in 25. I currently have my OLED dual booted. It's awesome playing COD on my SD. But an official release would be wonderful
yeah if they can dual boot this and windows on a laptop and desktop then they basically get their foot in every door. Gamers will boot into windows less and less as the steam os apps are developed and put into the store like media players, browsers etc. if they have youtube, facebook, netflix etc then they will take over from Microsoft.
Honestly I'd rather go without Windows. I tried it on my deck and the experience was horrible. It was nice to play COD, but I can leave it for my desktop. If you have nothing, but the Deck then yeah dual booting would at least be an option...
The only live service games I care about are Genshin, Helldivers and Rivals. All work just fine on the Steam Deck. And I got tired of waiting for SteamOS so I just installed Linux on my laptop lol.
@profanityandpancakes if the game let's you lower your analog stick deadzones then make them as low as possible as that makes it pick up smaller movements on the sticks which makes it feel more responsive, and just practice and get use to it, I was on console from the age of 6 till I was 15, got a pc at 15 and used mouse and keyboard, now when I use controller it feels alien and I suck at it but after a few days you'll start building up the muscle memory and you'll slowly get use to it
@@ashleybarnes9343 Haha yeah it takes a lot of suffering, but also the flow of an FPS on console/analog sticks VS PC/Mouse and keys is totally different. PC is more twitchy and shooting quickly around tight corners. On console your reaction speed can only be so fast while maintaining accuracy so I take my corners wider and strafe a lot more. Doing that against someone on MKB results in getting headshotted pretty quickly. So it's not just muscle memory, but learning to adjust your playstyle for the control scheme too.
I agree with Steam OS vs Windows. I am a huge PC gamer but I am just over it. I replaced my laptop with an iPad and frankly I don’t even fire up my gaming Pc anymore. The deck is such a nice system, plus with XBox, there really isn’t a reason for me to have a Pc when I get what I need from more convenient systems in a handheld version
Yeah, Having Steam OS running DLSS compatible games, with the ability to use windows and launchers, stores, game pass, etc. on other machines sounds more appealing.
Man, I've always been a fan of Valve with how they treat their consumers and developers. After my wife got me a Steam Deck, it further cements their name to me as how Playstation did to me as a kid but now with PC. Now that consoles and PC gaming are finally converging even further, Valve is in a perfect spot to establish a larger base with SteamOS as their frictionless solution to get people into PC gaming similar to how consoles removed that setup overhead back in the days -- console-like and handheld alike. I always saw PCs sold like consoles made a ton of sense moving forward with a specialized OS like SteamOS to support it. I love the idea of them being called Steam Machines. I wish Valve more success as they carry gaming, PC handhelds, and the PC market forward!
I'm doodoo with FPS games on controller too. In RoR2 I would die in the first minute everytime. But now with gyro+flickstick I'm a king. I feel like I can play that game for an infinite amount of time. Give gyro+flickstick a try.
Ive had my deck for about three months and been fighting with crashing issues for the last month. Valve just asked for it back to repair or replace it. I'll say they at least have a good support team working for them. Can't wait to get it back
Sorry to hear that bro. I got the original steam deck at lunch I was one of the very first ones and that one after a year started resetting randomly because I used the new fan setting which was quieter and it ended up overheating the unit and causing some damage. Since then I got a new one and I only use the old fan curve which runs the fan slightly louder but I've had this unit now for well over a year maybe even 2 years now that I'm thinking about it and I've had zero problems so definitely be sure to use the old fan curve setting
@@jordandesa7754 yeah, well at that point I think the silicone has been damaged due to overheating so it's kind of too late. I hope your new one works out for you buddy. Happy New Year
I would say 2026 or 2027 would be a possibility for a Steam Deck 2. With the New Steam Machines. I can also see Valve releasing 2 models of them. One having multiple options for dedicated GPUs from AMD which would cost the most amount of money and the 2nd model would just be an APU like with the Steam Deck but more powerful. Also depending on how and what Valve wants to do they could use an already made APU that AMD already has or make another custom one like AMD did for ASUS and Lenovo. Also have the Steam machines have at least 32gb of RAM. However knowing Valve they would probably want to use a custom APU that is geared towards a TV style box type system.
you can dual boot in the deck if you really want to. They didn't say they would officially support it, what they said is that it would be possible, in the sense that they wouldn't stop anyone from doing it.
Yeah the battery and sometimes when it gets a little hot are my only small gripes with the deck so far. It is really nice just playing with it plugged in though, I read somewhere that it is actually the recommended way of playing because of some feature with the battery that stops it from degrading through use while charging.
as some one that does not own any consoles currently I just like that steam works on more devices, so when it comes to owning games digitally 99% of the time I get it on Steam, so the more valve does to support Linux the better as I have been a Linux user for years tend to only have Windows installed on my main gaming desktop because not every game I play works in Linux.
Just buy mine OLED one, waiting to arrive, can't wait to play my POE2 when travel waiting plane and in hotel when I have nothing do to. will be amazing I think !
It's a limitation of x86-x64 (what most pc's run.) On arm, this is done through a very VERY low power state. (this needs to be supported at architecture level) On x86, this just doesn't exist. The cpu doesn't have a state where it's on, but it's not completely on. It only knows on, or off. With modifications like "start from ram" (s3 sleep. Ram is on, cpu is off)
I've always wondered if they would ever launch something like a "Deck Lite", mostly the same shell, but stripped down, running on ARM or something; either strictly for streaming from the user's main gaming machine (via Steam Link), or additionally capable of standalone play with some selection of games that run reasonably on the lite hardware with a different architecture translation layer and the rare few native ones. Not that far fetched considering some PC VR games have been ported to the Androidish Facebook Quest and other standalone non x86 VR headsets.
They need to cover all areas, SteamDeck, SteamBook and SteamPod, all just need to be APU's and release the OS with better support for the DIY'ers, and FYI, the Steam Deck image will install and run on most all AMD desktop PC's.
Only way MS comes out ahead is if they heavily subsidized their handheld to get the price down well below other handhelds to try to capture market share
I decided to get Steam Deck a few months ago, but I was waiting to see if it will be on a sale for Black Friday and then on the winter sale. No luck on either :( So I ordered it on December 20th and it still hasn't arrived 🥲So I guess no couch gaming during the holidays :( But at least once it finally arrives I can say "I've waited a year for it" hehehehe
Steam should make an executable to install Steam OS inside of Windows as a dual boot, like how the old Wubi installer for Ubuntu used to work. Q4OS and Endless OS both have installers that work this way, and even if Windows 11 doesn't support dual booting, a setup like that would bypass and go around that.
Ironically it's the Xbox Elite Series 2 controller that's widely regarded as the best wireless controller for Steam Deck at the moment. I have the white one, to match my white Steam Deck OLED, and I think it's great. I still have an OG Steam Controller in the cupboard…
new steam deck (and/or "steam machines") will run on a specialized variant of amds new strix point halo apu (release date: soon). the gpu performance is comparable to current laptop rtx 4070. thats huge for a apu.
Hey, I would have loved it if there was a disclaimer at the start of the video saying that this was a predictions video, because based on the first 2 stories you mentioned (ROG ally and Lenovo maybe (probably) getting SteamOS), I thought the rest of the video was going to be news, and it looks like the rest of the video is 100% pure speculation. Some clarity would help is all.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. I don't really care who wins, but much like the infosec intel world, I just wish all of these vendors just worked together no matter what your main choice is. I hate being hobbled by my choice of digital store.
Steam Machines will return as a first party system, made and sold by Valve, then they will allow the download of Steam OS for all devices, and they will likely open up other manufacturers to sell Steam Machines somewhere in between those two things, or it will happen at the same time as the download availability.
@@11.darklone ah damn i thought the winter sale also had a steam deck sale. well, i would say it's still worth it as hell, buy any one of 'em and you're great to go. just buy any usbc dock and a 2m usbc extension cable rated for 100W charging. I use a laptop one with a pigtail that has two video outputs and even vga (as a third one).
@@cheater00 yeah the last sale was about a month ago. Got a 512gb LCD model for $336. Best steam deck deal thus far imo. that got sold out and phased out. The 256gb lcd model is still available for $399 right now. I’m assuming they will eventually phase that model out as well at a crazy good price soon..
Can I enjoy SteamOS/Linux Gaming having a Intel/NVIDIA pc? You think i'll have problems with drivers? Any tips for someone looking for abandon Windows Gaming?
Nvidia drivers have come great distance since you’ve probably heard about them. There are proprietary drivers from Nvidia now that work on par with windows native. You can partition some 100gigs and dual boot to check out.
As long as you pick a distro that ship fairly up to date versions of the kernel and nvidia drivers (560 or higher), nvidia is working really good right now.
I would absolutely grab a Steam Machine if it came back as a replacement for my Xbox. I have absolutely no motivation to switch to Sony have 2 decades of Xbox, I have had Xbox and Valve side by side for 2 decades, I can play a lot of my Xbox stuff on my Steamdeck, but if I’m committing to something it’s absolutely Valve.
1:40 It already is the reference device. I don't even own a Steam Deck yet, and that first year after its release I saw Linux game compatibility grow by leaps and bounds. However it's awesome to know that other manufacturers have taken up Valves offer to partner with them to release their own Steam OS versions. Valve took a hell of a gamble with Steam OS and it seems to be coming along better than really anyone could've hoped, especially when every release of Windows seems to just be getting progressively worse.
I honestly don't think that Valve will put much effort in making Winblows dual-bootable on the Deck, when they (Valve) are poised to dominate the market with their killer software on everyone else's devices.
If they want more people on SteamOS they're gonna want to make it so games with anti-cheat just work then. Cause that's the main reason I want dual boot. If it just worked I would've been playing more MP games on my SD even if I'm worse than on my PC.
@@Bigdude0444 I mean, they HAVE done a good bit of work on that front, making it very easy for developers to get BattleEye working with Linux. Devs are just stubborn.
@Bigdude0444 some anti cheats blocking the steamdeck isn't valves fault man, they have literally made it as easy as possible for them, it's the devs that are being lazy and stubborn, pretty sure it was either valve or battle eye that said all the devs have to do is just enable a toggle to allow steamdeck and the devs won't do it, don't blame valve for the shitty game companies who are blocking the deck for no reason
@@ashleybarnes9343 I never blamed them. I'm saying they're gonna want to make it happen. Whether that's via some form of incentive to get the lazy and greedy off their butts it has to happen one way or another.
I currently have an Xbox series X, PS5 pro, switch, steam deck, ROG ally, ps portal, meta quest 3, and psvr2. I buy everything and any improvement to any of them is a tremendous win for consumers. I would like to see ROG ally receive steam OS and a new Microsoft mobile update just so updates and jumping into games is easier. I just really want cool consumer friendly updates to everything. I also would like to see more quality vr games going forward for psvr2. Imo so much potential is being wasted
If steam made the Next Steam Machine like the PS/Xbox and could compete with that market and made it easy for people to buy games and just use a control and then pointed players to the games that would play on that system it would sell
Optimistic view: SteamDeck 2 will get released with better resources, thunderport jack capabilities for external gpu support and additional other plug-able goodies from Valve!
I gave up with playstation when I found my expensive Sony headphones were not compatible with my PS4 so I got a Xbox series x instead. I'd definitely consider a steam console.
Just install Win2Go on an external SSD. I have a 2tb SSD thats barely bigger than a business card attached with a velcro dot. Works great. Not as streamlined as native dual boot but i like it.
To be honest, I am glad SteamOS is coming to other platforms, but it will have to be something special now to beat Bazzite, which gives near all the extras you need, out of the box, unlike steamOS which is fine if you are more technically minded, but Linux is not user friendly to noobs, even SteamOS which is one of the better distros on the ease of use front.
I don't think Microsoft will have an Xbox OS that you can install on any device. I think it'll be something that comes preinstalled on a variety of handhelds or console-style form factors. That's not to say people won't get a general purpose image up and running but I'm not sure it'll come in an official capacity for unofficial devices.
What I've & Owned played: - Sega Genesis - Super Nintendo - Nintendo 64 - Gameboy Color - Gameboy Advanced SP - Wii - PlayStation - PlayStation 2 - PlayStation 3 - PlayStation 4 - Xbox Original - Xbox 360 - Xbox One - Nintendo DS - Nintendo 3DS - PlayStation Portable - PlayStation Vita - Nintendo Switch Lite - Nintendo Switch OLED - Valve Index - Nvidia RTX 3080 - AMD Ryzen 3950x - Meta Quest 2 - Meta Quest 3 - Valve Steam Deck - Smart Phone (any) Worth Buying Now: - Nintendo Switch 2 - Valve Steam Deck OLED - Meta Quest 3 - Nvidia RTX 3080 - AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
Microsoft have had an open goal opportunity to combine Windows and Xbox into a gaming-centric OS for years and have squandered it. They'll need to work fast to catch up, not to mention probably having to reorganise their entire corporate structure, if they're going to compete with what Valve has in store.
Rather hope Valve just give us the option able duel boot steam os vs any other os you want. Not just bloated windows 11. Many of us want nothing to do with windows 11. Rather dual boot window 10/ Steam os. Yeah I really hope steam os has proper GTX/RTX driver support. I hope Valve has hired coders or hire ex Nvidia coders. And yes I hope we see steam box/ steam console with with proper dedicated GDDR6 (256 bit bus or better) Vram with steam os 3.6 or newer.
When the CEO Gabe Newell of valve himself runs a gaming company and he himself games I'd like to think that Gabe himself wants what's best for the gamers instead of someone like Microsoft where they are purely just focused on quarterly ratings and money overall I think that valve has the better chance of coming out on top overall because they are more focused on the community and what they want than only their own personal goals, they listen to the community where as for Microsoft they have no community just focus groups and investors.
@MrRoundthetwist I understand that. But they never said they were done making consoles. People are just assuming that because of there everything is an Xbox approach.
I agree 100% with you. Steam is 2/3 of my entire PC game library and Epic is 1/3. My console of choice has always been Playstation every generation. I also do Nintendo and will most likely get the Switch 2 if it is a big enough upgrade or there are Nintendo games that won't be playable on the 1st gen Switch.
Don't care as much about the TV box. I want the "Steam Deck" Controller so bad. I have an old Steam controller but the trackpads on the deck are far far better.
Good video except your wrong on the Xbox side they are still in the console game and will continue so it will still be the 3 console companies ms is just expanding the name branding which is smart. For pc players and xbox console players if anything playstation needs to step up. It's been getting more of a letdown since the ps3 era slowly in my oponion happy 2025
Speaking of which fun fact most of the ps3 sales selling alot better than the xbox can be most attributed to Japan xbox didn't really make the splash that sony did when ps3 came out
i just ordered a Oled Steam deck comes on Friday AGH cant wait
Mine came today at 11am and it's currently 4.40am and I've just turned it off so I can go to bed in a minute, I have a high end gaming PC (ryzen 7 7700x rtx 3080ti 32gbs of ddr5 6600mghz ram my pc can play every game at 1440p ultra settings easily 100ish fps or higher, and yet I still weirdly enough had more fun on the steamdeck lmao) the steamdeck oled is a fantastic piece of kit
You will not regret it.
Best choice brather, trust me
Literally selling some stuff just so I can buy one in the next few days, been watching countless should I videos, hoping to make the best decision for an investment like this. I travel a lot and I take my Series S with me everywhere I go but it’s a lot to tote around and I can’t even play it on airplanes. But tired of watching so many videos
Got it a few years ago and still one of the best devices I own.
They would never release 3.0 before the desktop. They want everyone to have the option to first buy a super powerful Steam machine, then, they will release Steam OS to the masses and watch the PC market fall right into their pocket as people realize that Linux/SteamOS is KING!!!
I think you are onto something!
It absolutely is releasing before desktop Lenovo is announcing a steam os device in like a week. Valve won't release desktop until Nvidia drivers are ready they won't release it if 70% of the market can't use it that would be hilariously stupid of valve.
I hear you. But I hard disagree here. Anyone else I’d say you’re spot on. But this is Valve. I’d almost certainly expect Steam OS to fully release before any hardware
What am I missing? Why would steam release such an outdated version of their OS on other hardware?
except guys that play competitive FPS which is about 90% of the PC player base.
I honestly feel that the deck is brilliant for someone like me who is solely a solo player
Bought my Steam Deck back when they wanted 5 dollars to put it on hold and had three days to pay it off. I still use it for my portable gaming device and my tiny pc (Geekom 13; no Gpu) for when I'm home. I'm an old Gamer (50 today) so I go all the way back to the Atari 2600 as a kid, Nintendo, Palm, etc.
I love this whole new scene that Steam Deck got rolling with Arch Linux. They're really got this (Steam) rolling here and I'm all for it. Thanks Jimmy for another cool review.
Similar, but I’m 48 and my first computer was ZX Spectrum 16k (then 48k, 3+), the Amiga 500 (1mb)
Happy Birthday mate, I beat you to 50 by 3 weeks so always good to meet an ancient gamer :)
Portable things are often named GO so they could call it the Steam Deck Stay
Or home
LMAO
Steamdeck has been such a long lasting hardware!
Or at home
Correct, Can't even use the steam deck away from the nearest electric outlet
Healthy, happy New Year 2025!
Happy new year 1.3 x 10^5818 to you as well.
At this point, it feels like Valve knows something we don’t when it comes to windows dual booting support. It’s heavily rumoured that MS are working on a dedicated handheld OS. Potentially something we hear about at CES. If that’s the case I would imagine they’re holding off on dual boot support until that is in the wild. Rather than putting in the effort of a dual boot wizard for a bloated windows OS that nobody ultimately wants
Lmfao Ms can't get a NORMAL os working right, let alone one for mobile devices
Native dual booting would be a game changer! But for now, we'll have to continue to use third-party software like clover.
@@leonbestfrenemy7681just install Win2go on an external SSD. I have it installed on a 2tb SSD thats physically very small (not much bigger than a business card. It's held in place by a small velcro dot. Works great. Not as streamlind as native dual boot but works for me.
I only use Windows just because SteamOS isn't available for PC yet; otherwise I'd dropped Windows in a heartbeat.
@@ResidentWeevil2077 In other words, you basically only play games or use a browser.
Happy ny dude! 2025 will be spicy, not even just gamewise 😅
I'm a Nintendo and Valve Steam Deck guy. I don't need anything else personally. Can't wait for the Switch².
Same bro
@atiq8987 👍
I’m pretty much the same
Haven’t bothered with PlayStation or Xbox this gen
But may cave in when GTA6 comes out 😅
@@MrRoundthetwist honestly, xbox and Playstation priced-me-out this gen. Couldn't justify the cost of gaming. But when I humored the option of the Steam Deck, and saw its ability to download previous versions of owned games, the off-line mode, and desktop mode...I saw the vast potential of the platform. I invested and and never looked back. The Deck and Switch were worth every penny in my opinion! ❤️
@@StiffAftermath may I ask what do you mean by “download PREVIOUS versions of owned games”?
That said, great thread… I’m currently just a Nintendo Switch guy with a side ROG Ally which I ended up using for a few hours (nothing against the handheld, it’s amazing, just don’t have the time to play anymore).
SteamOS everywhere though, that would be sick.
Imagine using the deck itself as a controller for the steam machine. Using the decks screen as a secondary screen for games on the TV. Oh the possibilities!!
A good Wii U!
Did somebody say WiiU?
I know what you mean about Windows. I got rid of Windows10 and installed Linux on my gaming Laptop, and I don't regret it. I think Valve should start to sell Steam Decks in stores across the world, because I showed off my Steam Deck OLED to four of my gaming friends, and they were blown away by it and now are thinking about getting one themselves. The thing is they had never even herd of a Steam Deck before. So that means there is a huge %age of gamers stuck with a Switch & to be honest we all know the Steam Deck kicks the Switches ass lol.
Suggests to me that Valve need to start doing mass marketing campaigns to reach new audiences. We know how great they are, but they are not a household name to a lot of people like the Nintendo switch. And it's a crying shame. Valve put us first!
@@jordycrumpet I agree with you 100%. Come on Valve the best way to get new customers is show your awesome products off in real world stores, instead of hiding them online.
Same😊
Anyone else feel like switch 2 will be less powerful that the steam deck? Lol I mean Nintendo knows they can get away with giving the most miniscule update and people and fanboys will buy it because the switch is so badly outdated lol My old Pixel C tablet was released in 2015 with the Tegra X1 and the switch used that chip over 2 years later lol
Is Linux any good?
I bought my steam deck about a month ago & love it for being able to take my steam library on the go. That said i am also coming to the realization that getting it to do any more then that can be a headache to accomplish. Rather then it being a All in one portal gaming system it seems to be the steam version of the switch.
Just waiting for 2027 when valve won the handheld pc war and gets sued by epic games because "it isnt easy" to install Fortnite on the deck 🙄
This should be pinned 😂
2027 is a bit early, for any sort of “win.” 2024 is really when it has started to open up.
You do realize epic games wouldn’t sue them, it’s their fault it’s not compatible. The anti cheat is the reason a lot of multiplayer games don’t work. And the companies are to lazy to make it work, there are work arounds.
@@mayhemvr7561 I'm alluding to the law suit against Google. Basically the same law suit/argument, just some google pay stuff also sprinkled in
Epic games did good things for us gamers.
They forced Apple and Google to play nice with app stores. Which will make gaming cheaper for us.
They made the unreal engine, etc.
I like your predictions. I’ll quickly mention the cheaper Steam Box already exists as a Steam Deck docked. I have been impressed with how well it performs (having proper expectations for a small package upscaling).
I really hope dual booting officially comes out in 25. I currently have my OLED dual booted. It's awesome playing COD on my SD. But an official release would be wonderful
yeah if they can dual boot this and windows on a laptop and desktop then they basically get their foot in every door. Gamers will boot into windows less and less as the steam os apps are developed and put into the store like media players, browsers etc. if they have youtube, facebook, netflix etc then they will take over from Microsoft.
Honestly I'd rather go without Windows. I tried it on my deck and the experience was horrible. It was nice to play COD, but I can leave it for my desktop. If you have nothing, but the Deck then yeah dual booting would at least be an option...
I tried to dual boot but I somehow messed up my SteamOS bootloader and had to reimage.
@@soundspark damn 😔. It's not hard just gotta find a good video to follow. @deckwizard guide helped me out alot
I want to try dual booting but it looks complicated and the guides are all slightly different
The only live service games I care about are Genshin, Helldivers and Rivals. All work just fine on the Steam Deck. And I got tired of waiting for SteamOS so I just installed Linux on my laptop lol.
I never owned a console so I struggle with the Steam Deck controller playing HD2 and Rivals, is there anyway to make aiming easier?
@profanityandpancakes if the game let's you lower your analog stick deadzones then make them as low as possible as that makes it pick up smaller movements on the sticks which makes it feel more responsive, and just practice and get use to it, I was on console from the age of 6 till I was 15, got a pc at 15 and used mouse and keyboard, now when I use controller it feels alien and I suck at it but after a few days you'll start building up the muscle memory and you'll slowly get use to it
@@ashleybarnes9343 Haha yeah it takes a lot of suffering, but also the flow of an FPS on console/analog sticks VS PC/Mouse and keys is totally different. PC is more twitchy and shooting quickly around tight corners. On console your reaction speed can only be so fast while maintaining accuracy so I take my corners wider and strafe a lot more. Doing that against someone on MKB results in getting headshotted pretty quickly.
So it's not just muscle memory, but learning to adjust your playstyle for the control scheme too.
I'll be buying the steam controller 2 day one for sure :)
Happy New Year Mr. Champagne! Hope you had a nice glass of champagne!
I agree with Steam OS vs Windows. I am a huge PC gamer but I am just over it. I replaced my laptop with an iPad and frankly I don’t even fire up my gaming Pc anymore. The deck is such a nice system, plus with XBox, there really isn’t a reason for me to have a Pc when I get what I need from more convenient systems in a handheld version
2:03 releasing steam os on different hardware is first step to kill Steam deck.
Yeah, Having Steam OS running DLSS compatible games, with the ability to use windows and launchers, stores, game pass, etc. on other machines sounds more appealing.
I don't even drink, but Jimmy Champagne is the greatest name I've heard
Man, I've always been a fan of Valve with how they treat their consumers and developers. After my wife got me a Steam Deck, it further cements their name to me as how Playstation did to me as a kid but now with PC.
Now that consoles and PC gaming are finally converging even further, Valve is in a perfect spot to establish a larger base with SteamOS as their frictionless solution to get people into PC gaming similar to how consoles removed that setup overhead back in the days -- console-like and handheld alike.
I always saw PCs sold like consoles made a ton of sense moving forward with a specialized OS like SteamOS to support it. I love the idea of them being called Steam Machines.
I wish Valve more success as they carry gaming, PC handhelds, and the PC market forward!
I'm doodoo with FPS games on controller too. In RoR2 I would die in the first minute everytime. But now with gyro+flickstick I'm a king. I feel like I can play that game for an infinite amount of time. Give gyro+flickstick a try.
Something like a Scar 18 but in an AIO 27-24 inch with small hybrid liquid cooling to remove noise, and a steam deck, sounds cool.
Valve Ready
Ive had my deck for about three months and been fighting with crashing issues for the last month. Valve just asked for it back to repair or replace it. I'll say they at least have a good support team working for them. Can't wait to get it back
Sorry to hear that bro. I got the original steam deck at lunch I was one of the very first ones and that one after a year started resetting randomly because I used the new fan setting which was quieter and it ended up overheating the unit and causing some damage. Since then I got a new one and I only use the old fan curve which runs the fan slightly louder but I've had this unit now for well over a year maybe even 2 years now that I'm thinking about it and I've had zero problems so definitely be sure to use the old fan curve setting
@donniedarko4497 yea that was one of the thing they had me try and it didn't make a difference unfortunately.
@@jordandesa7754 yeah, well at that point I think the silicone has been damaged due to overheating so it's kind of too late. I hope your new one works out for you buddy. Happy New Year
@donniedarko4497 Thanks man. Happy new year!
My deck have bsod issue, all fix i have tried but still not resolved.
Happy new year jimmy! Thanks for the awesome channel and for supporting my app ❤
always love seeing your vids show up makes me happy getting my steam deck updates!
Happy New Year, Dr. Jimmy! 💪😎
Do you and your friends still play Squad? 😮
I ended up getting a Lenovo legion go over the steam deck and it was the best decision I made. 8.8 inch screen is nuts.
I would say 2026 or 2027 would be a possibility for a Steam Deck 2. With the New Steam Machines. I can also see Valve releasing 2 models of them. One having multiple options for dedicated GPUs from AMD which would cost the most amount of money and the 2nd model would just be an APU like with the Steam Deck but more powerful. Also depending on how and what Valve wants to do they could use an already made APU that AMD already has or make another custom one like AMD did for ASUS and Lenovo. Also have the Steam machines have at least 32gb of RAM. However knowing Valve they would probably want to use a custom APU that is geared towards a TV style box type system.
you can dual boot in the deck if you really want to. They didn't say they would officially support it, what they said is that it would be possible, in the sense that they wouldn't stop anyone from doing it.
That's not what they said they said they would release an official dual boot and that it would release with the official steam 3.0
I use my deck exclusively on my TV. I can't see how a steam box would be any better
Happy New year all.
the more people using steamOS the more pressure is being put on devolpers to optimize their games for linux
They need to fix the battery. Because what I want is to be able to play it much longer than 2 to 4hrs
Yeah the battery and sometimes when it gets a little hot are my only small gripes with the deck so far. It is really nice just playing with it plugged in though, I read somewhere that it is actually the recommended way of playing because of some feature with the battery that stops it from degrading through use while charging.
@ right and they need a new cooling system for the Steam deck.
@ I always play with it plugged in but sometimes I’m on the go and it dies pretty quickly when it’s not plugged in.
There is nothing to fix, you need to understand basic thermodynamics
well we def need to wait for another game-changing world-rumbling new battery innovation😂
as some one that does not own any consoles currently I just like that steam works on more devices, so when it comes to owning games digitally 99% of the time I get it on Steam, so the more valve does to support Linux the better as I have been a Linux user for years tend to only have Windows installed on my main gaming desktop because not every game I play works in Linux.
Just buy mine OLED one, waiting to arrive, can't wait to play my POE2 when travel waiting plane and in hotel when I have nothing do to. will be amazing I think !
It's probably a hardware limitation or something but I wish games updates and downloads and the os could update in sleep mode
Sleep mode means sleep, nothing is running. They could add a "turn off screen and go to sleep after finishing updates"
It's a limitation of x86-x64 (what most pc's run.)
On arm, this is done through a very VERY low power state. (this needs to be supported at architecture level)
On x86, this just doesn't exist. The cpu doesn't have a state where it's on, but it's not completely on. It only knows on, or off. With modifications like "start from ram" (s3 sleep. Ram is on, cpu is off)
@@pxkqd Windows sleep mode, Is not what your describing… :/
That would suck. Imagine going to use your Steam Deck during your break at work and it's flat because it updated everything XD
@@N47H4NI3L ikr that would be funny but probably shouldn't bring it to work being so low on battery that an update or two killed the battery.
What game was that where you tilted the deck to control in game?
I've always wondered if they would ever launch something like a "Deck Lite", mostly the same shell, but stripped down, running on ARM or something; either strictly for streaming from the user's main gaming machine (via Steam Link), or additionally capable of standalone play with some selection of games that run reasonably on the lite hardware with a different architecture translation layer and the rare few native ones. Not that far fetched considering some PC VR games have been ported to the Androidish Facebook Quest and other standalone non x86 VR headsets.
Tim Sweeney is a true Santa
I play Destiny 2 on Steam Deck. With The Ghost Spectre Windows. I get quite decent FPS as well.
They should hire that CryoUtilities guy to implement his tools into Steam Deck/Steam OS
They need to cover all areas, SteamDeck, SteamBook and SteamPod, all just need to be APU's and release the OS with better support for the DIY'ers, and FYI, the Steam Deck image will install and run on most all AMD desktop PC's.
Only way MS comes out ahead is if they heavily subsidized their handheld to get the price down well below other handhelds to try to capture market share
I decided to get Steam Deck a few months ago, but I was waiting to see if it will be on a sale for Black Friday and then on the winter sale. No luck on either :( So I ordered it on December 20th and it still hasn't arrived 🥲So I guess no couch gaming during the holidays :(
But at least once it finally arrives I can say "I've waited a year for it" hehehehe
Steam should make an executable to install Steam OS inside of Windows as a dual boot, like how the old Wubi installer for Ubuntu used to work. Q4OS and Endless OS both have installers that work this way, and even if Windows 11 doesn't support dual booting, a setup like that would bypass and go around that.
Ironically it's the Xbox Elite Series 2 controller that's widely regarded as the best wireless controller for Steam Deck at the moment. I have the white one, to match my white Steam Deck OLED, and I think it's great. I still have an OG Steam Controller in the cupboard…
new steam deck (and/or "steam machines") will run on a specialized variant of amds new strix point halo apu (release date: soon). the gpu performance is comparable to current laptop rtx 4070. thats huge for a apu.
Hey, I would have loved it if there was a disclaimer at the start of the video saying that this was a predictions video, because based on the first 2 stories you mentioned (ROG ally and Lenovo maybe (probably) getting SteamOS), I thought the rest of the video was going to be news, and it looks like the rest of the video is 100% pure speculation. Some clarity would help is all.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. I don't really care who wins, but much like the infosec intel world, I just wish all of these vendors just worked together no matter what your main choice is. I hate being hobbled by my choice of digital store.
Xbox is coming out with another console... theyre still here for another 10 years
I want a steam machine that is a wireless keyboard with a dongle for the TV.
Steam Machines will return as a first party system, made and sold by Valve, then they will allow the download of Steam OS for all devices, and they will likely open up other manufacturers to sell Steam Machines somewhere in between those two things, or it will happen at the same time as the download availability.
For some reason I thought all of this happened already🤣
I hope I don't watch Valve become the villain in my life time.
Steam Machine with Strix Halo based APU would be nice.
should i buy the steam deck now or wait for another one with better components if its gonna come out soon? i dont know who to ask
It's not gonna come out for years, buy now, no regrets. Sale is still on until the 2nd 10am pst
@@cheater00there’s no sale going on for the steam deck?
@@11.darklone ah damn i thought the winter sale also had a steam deck sale. well, i would say it's still worth it as hell, buy any one of 'em and you're great to go. just buy any usbc dock and a 2m usbc extension cable rated for 100W charging. I use a laptop one with a pigtail that has two video outputs and even vga (as a third one).
@@cheater00 yeah the last sale was about a month ago. Got a 512gb LCD model for $336. Best steam deck deal thus far imo. that got sold out and phased out. The 256gb lcd model is still available for $399 right now. I’m assuming they will eventually phase that model out as well at a crazy good price soon..
@@11.darklone the next sale is probably months from naw... march or april... i would say it's not worth waiting so long just to save fifty bucks...
Can I enjoy SteamOS/Linux Gaming having a Intel/NVIDIA pc? You think i'll have problems with drivers? Any tips for someone looking for abandon Windows Gaming?
I’m holding out hope
Nvidia drivers have come great distance since you’ve probably heard about them. There are proprietary drivers from Nvidia now that work on par with windows native. You can partition some 100gigs and dual boot to check out.
Bazzite works on intel, idk about nvidia though.
As long as you pick a distro that ship fairly up to date versions of the kernel and nvidia drivers (560 or higher), nvidia is working really good right now.
Pop OS has an Nvidia version. Pick it and flash usb drive with Rufus.
I would absolutely grab a Steam Machine if it came back as a replacement for my Xbox. I have absolutely no motivation to switch to Sony have 2 decades of Xbox, I have had Xbox and Valve side by side for 2 decades, I can play a lot of my Xbox stuff on my Steamdeck, but if I’m committing to something it’s absolutely Valve.
1:40 It already is the reference device. I don't even own a Steam Deck yet, and that first year after its release I saw Linux game compatibility grow by leaps and bounds. However it's awesome to know that other manufacturers have taken up Valves offer to partner with them to release their own Steam OS versions. Valve took a hell of a gamble with Steam OS and it seems to be coming along better than really anyone could've hoped, especially when every release of Windows seems to just be getting progressively worse.
Thank God we have Bazzite OS while Valve still considering
I honestly don't think that Valve will put much effort in making Winblows dual-bootable on the Deck, when they (Valve) are poised to dominate the market with their killer software on everyone else's devices.
If they want more people on SteamOS they're gonna want to make it so games with anti-cheat just work then. Cause that's the main reason I want dual boot. If it just worked I would've been playing more MP games on my SD even if I'm worse than on my PC.
@@Bigdude0444 I mean, they HAVE done a good bit of work on that front, making it very easy for developers to get BattleEye working with Linux. Devs are just stubborn.
@Bigdude0444 some anti cheats blocking the steamdeck isn't valves fault man, they have literally made it as easy as possible for them, it's the devs that are being lazy and stubborn, pretty sure it was either valve or battle eye that said all the devs have to do is just enable a toggle to allow steamdeck and the devs won't do it, don't blame valve for the shitty game companies who are blocking the deck for no reason
@@ashleybarnes9343 I never blamed them. I'm saying they're gonna want to make it happen. Whether that's via some form of incentive to get the lazy and greedy off their butts it has to happen one way or another.
They could’ve focused on making every game steam deck compatible before trying to make steam os available on everything
We won’t think about Nintendo switch after this video 😭
I'm an original Steam Deck owner. Will wait until Steam Deck 2 Release before I upgrade.
I currently have an Xbox series X, PS5 pro, switch, steam deck, ROG ally, ps portal, meta quest 3, and psvr2. I buy everything and any improvement to any of them is a tremendous win for consumers. I would like to see ROG ally receive steam OS and a new Microsoft mobile update just so updates and jumping into games is easier. I just really want cool consumer friendly updates to everything. I also would like to see more quality vr games going forward for psvr2. Imo so much potential is being wasted
I want a steam console announced in 2025 😭
If steam made the Next Steam Machine like the PS/Xbox and could compete with that market and made it easy for people to buy games and just use a control and then pointed players to the games that would play on that system it would sell
Is it worth it to buy a steam deck right now?
They should call the new machine the DeckTV
The PS5 and Xbox Series X have an APU. What's the problem with an APU?
Even better would be M$ and Valve teaming up to launch a console
Optimistic view: SteamDeck 2 will get released with better resources, thunderport jack capabilities for external gpu support and additional other plug-able goodies from Valve!
I gave up with playstation when I found my expensive Sony headphones were not compatible with my PS4 so I got a Xbox series x instead. I'd definitely consider a steam console.
I wonder if its possible to run Steam OS on my Xbox Series X.
I fully agree with what you're saying about the Xbox.
Jimmy where did you get that shirt?
Just install Win2Go on an external SSD. I have a 2tb SSD thats barely bigger than a business card attached with a velcro dot. Works great. Not as streamlined as native dual boot but i like it.
To be honest, I am glad SteamOS is coming to other platforms, but it will have to be something special now to beat Bazzite, which gives near all the extras you need, out of the box, unlike steamOS which is fine if you are more technically minded, but Linux is not user friendly to noobs, even SteamOS which is one of the better distros on the ease of use front.
I'm hoping steam deck 2 or steam machines will release in early 2026
I don't think Microsoft will have an Xbox OS that you can install on any device. I think it'll be something that comes preinstalled on a variety of handhelds or console-style form factors.
That's not to say people won't get a general purpose image up and running but I'm not sure it'll come in an official capacity for unofficial devices.
Can you use mouse with steam deck ?
Yes!
The one who can play spider man 2 at 60fps with better battery life os the winner for me
What I've & Owned played:
- Sega Genesis
- Super Nintendo
- Nintendo 64
- Gameboy Color
- Gameboy Advanced SP
- Wii
- PlayStation
- PlayStation 2
- PlayStation 3
- PlayStation 4
- Xbox Original
- Xbox 360
- Xbox One
- Nintendo DS
- Nintendo 3DS
- PlayStation Portable
- PlayStation Vita
- Nintendo Switch Lite
- Nintendo Switch OLED
- Valve Index
- Nvidia RTX 3080
- AMD Ryzen 3950x
- Meta Quest 2
- Meta Quest 3
- Valve Steam Deck
- Smart Phone (any)
Worth Buying Now:
- Nintendo Switch 2
- Valve Steam Deck OLED
- Meta Quest 3
- Nvidia RTX 3080
- AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
Microsoft have had an open goal opportunity to combine Windows and Xbox into a gaming-centric OS for years and have squandered it. They'll need to work fast to catch up, not to mention probably having to reorganise their entire corporate structure, if they're going to compete with what Valve has in store.
Rather hope Valve just give us the option able duel boot steam os vs any other os you want. Not just bloated windows 11. Many of us want nothing to do with windows 11. Rather dual boot window 10/ Steam os.
Yeah I really hope steam os has proper GTX/RTX driver support. I hope Valve has hired coders or hire ex Nvidia coders. And yes I hope we see steam box/ steam console with with proper dedicated GDDR6 (256 bit bus or better) Vram with steam os 3.6 or newer.
I think Steam Machines will use an APU, probably Strix Halo or a customisation thereof
the 8c / 32CU version looks pretty ideal already tbh.
When the CEO Gabe Newell of valve himself runs a gaming company and he himself games I'd like to think that Gabe himself wants what's best for the gamers instead of someone like Microsoft where they are purely just focused on quarterly ratings and money overall I think that valve has the better chance of coming out on top overall because they are more focused on the community and what they want than only their own personal goals, they listen to the community where as for Microsoft they have no community just focus groups and investors.
I doubt Microsoft pulls out of the console race yet
That is done the console wars are over
M$ taking on a whole new approach with their Xbox brand
@MrRoundthetwist I understand that. But they never said they were done making consoles. People are just assuming that because of there everything is an Xbox approach.
6:21 u mean someone doing what they said…2025 goodluck
All I'm hoping for is a steam machine that matches a PS5 at the same price point. Controller can be an extra purchase.
I agree 100% with you. Steam is 2/3 of my entire PC game library and Epic is 1/3. My console of choice has always been Playstation every generation. I also do Nintendo and will most likely get the Switch 2 if it is a big enough upgrade or there are Nintendo games that won't be playable on the 1st gen Switch.
Don't care as much about the TV box. I want the "Steam Deck" Controller so bad. I have an old Steam controller but the trackpads on the deck are far far better.
will steam os work with mac hardware?
Thats ARM, so no, not for recent hatdware
I have an arcade machine I run windows and big picture on. Wish I could just put steam os on it
Check out Bazzite in the meantime!
Good video except your wrong on the Xbox side they are still in the console game and will continue so it will still be the 3 console companies ms is just expanding the name branding which is smart. For pc players and xbox console players if anything playstation needs to step up. It's been getting more of a letdown since the ps3 era slowly in my oponion happy 2025
Hello Deckers!
Speaking of which fun fact most of the ps3 sales selling alot better than the xbox can be most attributed to Japan xbox didn't really make the splash that sony did when ps3 came out