I just did a comparison: both cameras in log 3, 422 10bit, awb, 1080p and 4k, both 24fps, and iso base/3200/6400/12800/25600, and over-exposed 2 stops in camera then brought back in post. They are FAR closer as far as noise is concerned than anyone would care to admit since the sony sensor has a huge hype on it as has had for years. I was absolutely surprised. Canon definitely has better awb hands down as far as my experience has been. As far noise, they were the same at base and 12800, canon beat the sony at 3200 and 6400, and maybe slightest edge to sony at 25600 but still a very nice image from them both. I may upload a short video on it soon.
The R8 is excellent for both filming and photography, and its price is also much better than the Sony ZV-E1. The comparison video is very good and detailed. Thank you very much!
this is a Great comparison between 2 Top cameras. I got Canon R8.. thinking getting ZV-E1 as well. Please keep up with these nice short film review.. your films are much detailed. We get a lot to learn just watching your reviews.. thanks!
high iso R8 noise more than E1 but more detail , you can noise reduction when edit and i like it more than e1 already reduce noise then the detail of texture is lost very much and you can't recover , Iam a asian guy so I like the color of R8 more than warm tone and more tint on E1, skin tone on R8 more white , but if i want to change it after edit easy if i want more warm and more tint easy BUt on E1 the color and contrast is more flater than R8
Just a heads up. It’s not quite fair on either of your settings. Sony will fair much better just shooting in SCinetone which is still super easy to just click on vs no profile. Also, Sony 12,800 2nd base iso is only in Slog3. Otherwise it’s generally 3200 in other profiles. Also, canon only shoots 10bit color in log. Sort of short arms it a bit. Lastly, Canon shoots 4k oversampled vs straight 4k for the Sony. So it will look softer but more natural generally. Finally, just for the sake of the test. Why not simple lower the aperture or raise your shutter speed to test the iso properly vs waiting for it to get dark. Obviously it’s not “proper” but the point is to test the iso. All things considered, the R8 holds up well. If not everyone already knowing Sonys 12mp sensor is just a beast with no try competitor. You can crank it to 50,000 and still have a decently usable image.
Did you shoot with their respective kit lenses? Canon color profiles look better to me but in low light-more natural, more character, a better lens would definitely help. I don't like the Sony smoothing at higher ISO.
May I ask, does the Canon R8 often experience overheating? How many minutes can it continuously record 4K 60p 10-bit video before the camera signals overheating?
Цвет может быть разным не только из-за того, что камеры так его отображают, а ещё и потому, что баланс белого в них может быть выставлен (или определён автоматически) разным 😊
Canon R8 can’t match the Sony sensor in this and A7Siii and FX3 for video. ZVE1 is an awesome camera, the photos are much better than expected also. Stick the Sony in S Cinetone for best straight out of camera. And for 12800 ISO it’s second base ISO in SLOG 3 on the ZVE1 and would have hardly any noise.
I think you missed the point if you shoot Sony in no color profile 10bit you should shoot Canon in HDR PQ enabled 10bit with Neutral profile manually tuning down sharpness. Canon's 8bit file has not only less color information but oversharpening too. For Canon you can't shoot 10bit no color profile. Also auto white balance in Canon has auto white priority and auto two options. I like the latter one more.
Yeah I get it. However, I am all about ease of use. Turn the camera on and use it without spending hours in post, just my personal preference and I wanted to show that here. I agree you can make any modern camera look however you would like if you do post work, I am just showing out of the box, The Zve1 looks better to me. I LOVE my canon R8 as well, for the priced it cant be beat at 1499 or less used! Thanks for the comments!😊😊
@@breakfastforyousoul I also turn it on and hit record button each time when I need take a clip. No post, straight upload to UA-cam. But you need to change settings once to make the tool better suited for your needs. It is not like Canon camera can not remember settings or anything.
For some reason you have one camera overexposed in all the shots. The colors are off. Making the comparison moot. No one shoots out of the box settings. Well I should not say that. But the ones that do are never going to see this video. I only made it half way through. Any conclusions based on the videos taken are basically useless. Pick the brand you are a fanboy of and go out in the world and make some videos.
Very important question. What color is the T-shirt in real life? Like on Sony or Canon?
I just did a comparison: both cameras in log 3, 422 10bit, awb, 1080p and 4k, both 24fps, and iso base/3200/6400/12800/25600, and over-exposed 2 stops in camera then brought back in post. They are FAR closer as far as noise is concerned than anyone would care to admit since the sony sensor has a huge hype on it as has had for years. I was absolutely surprised. Canon definitely has better awb hands down as far as my experience has been. As far noise, they were the same at base and 12800, canon beat the sony at 3200 and 6400, and maybe slightest edge to sony at 25600 but still a very nice image from them both. I may upload a short video on it soon.
Basic point missed. Which camera is showing correct colour of your skin tone and most important colour accurecy of your t-shirt. which one is correct.
The R8 is excellent for both filming and photography, and its price is also much better than the Sony ZV-E1. The comparison video is very good and detailed. Thank you very much!
Hi friend, why can't I record at 120fps at 4K with the R8? Thanks
@@SeguraCine the r8 is limited to 60fps 4K
@@andrese1 SI
This is the kind of camera comparison video that we need
this is a Great comparison between 2 Top cameras. I got Canon R8.. thinking getting ZV-E1 as well. Please keep up with these nice short film review.. your films are much detailed. We get a lot to learn just watching your reviews.. thanks!
Thank you so much! I appreciate it! Yeah the R8 is such a good value compared to sony right now!
I like the color on R8 but ZV - E1 has better low light
the zve1 has a softer picture and probably has a skin softening filter. The R8 is sharper for sure. Both great cameras. Great review.
Since they AWB differently maybe it is better to manually do it to get a better idea. ?
1080 is DEFINITELY much softer on the R8.. Just sayin!
Hi friend, why can't I record at 120fps at 4K with the R8? Thanks
high iso R8 noise more than E1 but more detail , you can noise reduction when edit and i like it more than e1 already reduce noise then the detail of texture is lost very much and you can't recover ,
Iam a asian guy so I like the color of R8 more than warm tone and more tint on E1, skin tone on R8 more white , but if i want to change it after edit easy if i want more warm and more tint easy
BUt on E1 the color and contrast is more flater than R8
This was an excellent video, the side by side is a great illustration. I'm now a bell-sub.
Thank you very muchj! I will be doing more in the future!👍👍
ZV-E1 looks sharper and colors are a bit more saturated and warm.
Just a heads up. It’s not quite fair on either of your settings. Sony will fair much better just shooting in SCinetone which is still super easy to just click on vs no profile. Also, Sony 12,800 2nd base iso is only in Slog3. Otherwise it’s generally 3200 in other profiles.
Also, canon only shoots 10bit color in log. Sort of short arms it a bit. Lastly, Canon shoots 4k oversampled vs straight 4k for the Sony. So it will look softer but more natural generally.
Finally, just for the sake of the test. Why not simple lower the aperture or raise your shutter speed to test the iso properly vs waiting for it to get dark. Obviously it’s not “proper” but the point is to test the iso. All things considered, the R8 holds up well. If not everyone already knowing Sonys 12mp sensor is just a beast with no try competitor. You can crank it to 50,000 and still have a decently usable image.
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I was more interested in the (likely) accidental cross eye stereo presentation. 😮
🎉 CANON EOS R8 ♟️👑
Did you shoot with their respective kit lenses? Canon color profiles look better to me but in low light-more natural, more character, a better lens would definitely help. I don't like the Sony smoothing at higher ISO.
2nd base iso 12800 is only available with Slog3.
the shot from ZVE1 is little better in low light and color wise.
I agree! Thank you for watching!👍👍
CANON R8 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
What color shirt were you wearing on this video? Zv1 looks green canon looks blue.
Yeah! Actually it was a teal shirt! The color on the zve 1 was more accurate for sure! Thanks for watching!
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
May I ask, does the Canon R8 often experience overheating? How many minutes can it continuously record 4K 60p 10-bit video before the camera signals overheating?
Где правильный цвет майки ?
Цвет может быть разным не только из-за того, что камеры так его отображают, а ещё и потому, что баланс белого в них может быть выставлен (или определён автоматически) разным 😊
@@golosbezdoka Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
右側の映像は常にR８ですか？
解像感が圧倒的に右の映像の方が高いです。
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Sony wins in Video. You'll get waaaay better photos from the Canon
The shirt on the right look greenish-blue while the one on the left looks green.
The left wall looks magenta and yellowish
I agree. On automatic settings Sony leans a little on the yellow side, especially lights and faces.@@mbismbismb
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
For the r8 was noise reduction enabled (low, standard or high)?
Why do we have lag on the zve1? and I’m assuming the audio is from zve1?
OK. But the elephant in the room is which camera renders the correct color for your t-shirt?
Canon looks better
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R8 is murdered
Canon R8 can’t match the Sony sensor in this and A7Siii and FX3 for video.
ZVE1 is an awesome camera, the photos are much better than expected also.
Stick the Sony in S Cinetone for best straight out of camera.
And for 12800 ISO it’s second base ISO in SLOG 3 on the ZVE1 and would have hardly any noise.
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
The photos are much better than expected only if 12mp is enough for you..
Canon r8 ❤️
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I think you missed the point if you shoot Sony in no color profile 10bit you should shoot Canon in HDR PQ enabled 10bit with Neutral profile manually tuning down sharpness. Canon's 8bit file has not only less color information but oversharpening too. For Canon you can't shoot 10bit no color profile. Also auto white balance in Canon has auto white priority and auto two options. I like the latter one more.
Yeah I get it. However, I am all about ease of use. Turn the camera on and use it without spending hours in post, just my personal preference and I wanted to show that here. I agree you can make any modern camera look however you would like if you do post work, I am just showing out of the box, The Zve1 looks better to me. I LOVE my canon R8 as well, for the priced it cant be beat at 1499 or less used! Thanks for the comments!😊😊
@@breakfastforyousoul I also turn it on and hit record button each time when I need take a clip. No post, straight upload to UA-cam. But you need to change settings once to make the tool better suited for your needs. It is not like Canon camera can not remember settings or anything.
Canon
r8 got more detail,i think its better than ev-e1
Canon R8💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Sony's colours always remind me of cheap mobile phone.
SONY is far more cinematic, better color rendition directly in the camera, better roll off, less harsh contrast, better in low light.
Yeah, and 1k price difference...
For some reason you have one camera overexposed in all the shots. The colors are off. Making the comparison moot. No one shoots out of the box settings. Well I should not say that. But the ones that do are never going to see this video. I only made it half way through. Any conclusions based on the videos taken are basically useless. Pick the brand you are a fanboy of and go out in the world and make some videos.