The Robert Horry-Danny Ainge beef is what happens when your rival becomes your coach
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2023
- Why shouldn't retired players coach right away? Well because you might become coach of someone you played against in heated 7-game playoff series two years in a row. In other words, someone you hate, who also hates you. As was the case for Phoenix Suns coach Danny Ainge, and ex-Houston Rocket Robert Horry.
Although.. . there is an argument to be made that the opposite is true-- retired players should rush into coaching and hope to have an enemy on their team. And perhaps all players should hope to be coached by their enemy. Because this beef, while surely unpleasant for both parties in the moment, was good for Danny Ainge's image, and was a career boon to Horry. I'll explain. In the video. Not here, there's no time, bye!
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I've never understood how you can be drafted in 1992, never play for the bulls, and retire with 7 rings. This dude is mathematical anomaly.
He was at the right teams, at the right times.
Tbf He still played for Phil Jackson
Still clutch 🤷♂️
He played for all the right teams and played a key role on those teams. He played on pretty much the only team besides the Bulls who won rings in the 90s that weren’t rhe Bulls. But then makes a nice move by going to the next two dynasties that followed the Bulls. And playing for as long as he did never hurts either. Possibly the best role player in terms of accepting his role, seeking the right teams, and when he was called upon he was always clutch. Big shor Bob for a reason
@@Matt-cr4vv Yes, and also an example of how to adapt, because I remember in the beginning he was a dunker, a high flyer, I remember a game in his rookie year or maybe second year with the Rockets in which he dunked on 7 straight possessions, it was amazing, then as the years went on he adapted himself to become mostly a shooter. He always played within the system, with patience. Many systems players give a similar vibe, but he ended up being at the right plage at the right time.
I love the way Hakeem chose to trash talk, like a father lecturing his son:
“You are a hypocrite with your inexcusable behavior. You should be God-fearing.”
Truth! The personal grace (likely the result of becoming a devout Muslim) Hakeem developed over time is truly beautiful as he was a hot head who got into a lot of fights as a young player only to find some kind of internal peace that completely changed him and saved his relationship with the Rockets ownership just when it looked like he was going to leave Houston before the two championships. I spent a few hours with him during a personal appearance he did back in 2012 or so that I was working and he is such a kind and sweet gentleman. They say "don't meet your heroes" but in the Dream's case it only increased my appreciation of him as a lifelong Rockets fan. Of course, I also know he is a shrewd negotiator that has amassed an amazing real estate portfolio here in Houston and Galveston with some very aggressive and eye-catching moves. So dude is not soft, but just projects such an inner peace, grace and control. Similar to his game as grace and control are two appropriate adjectives for his play.
More like the guy from that Key & Peele skit.
"God is the teacher, Derek is the student, and I am God's instrument." xD
I think everything about Hakeem is honorable. Much like Manute. Such a respected person. Manute may not have been an all-star on the court but he was in life off the court.
That is such an Hakeem story. Love that guy.
“You should be god fearing” might have to get added to my vocabulary 😭
And Horry's punishment was to win 5 more rings 😂
Many of them at the expense of the Suns
Horry Hip check Steve Nash.
@@AT-rs9jz this incident now feels a bit more meaningful given the context provided
@@AT-rs9jz The Refs acted blind in those Suns vs Spurs games... NBA Refs are an odd bunch..
@@kenrickeason NBA refs bet on games.
That infamous towel throw changed the course of NBA history forever! As a Laker fan, how can I ever stop thanking Big Shot Rob
And Vlade 😎
yeah as a Spurs fan I can say Bob definitely knew when to hit shots that counted the most towards the success of his career
@@ripralph09 don’t forget to keep crying about it! It’ll definitely help you feel better about your sorry franchise!
@Angelus GNZ 😂 They'll cry about it for as long as they live.
DA just helped us again. Thanks Danny!!!!!
Hakeem saying someone “needs to be God-fearing” sounds like an explicit threat, ngl😅😂
That’s just how we Nigerians talk 😂😭
the “…because I will send you to meet him!” is implied lol
Hes Muslim
For a soft spoken guy like Hakeem that is an absolutely savage remark.
@@d3adyoutubeaccountthanks, I can use Wikipedia too👍🏾
Irony: Ainge sent Rob to LA expecting him to be buried behind Shaq and Kobe, but Rob was always open because of Shaq and Kobe.
And sounds like he was right about the culture in PHX. He had success everywhere else and those teams had a lot better to great cultures.
And still averaged like 9 points good for him 😂
This rivalry is a whole “Well, this is awkward…” situation.
😂 agreed.
It honestly sounds like a Robert horry prism episode expounding on his success after the "big miss bob" suns saga would be fun
It's a great day for secret base
One of the best sports channels in the game :)
Yeah, Keep ‘Em Comin’, Guys!
Players like Danny Ainge and Robert Horry are so hard to find. Role players who can go into a fight with superstars and not get scared.
The only difference is that horry won and won alot (the most by any player who didn't play with Bill's celtics)
@@Ill.righteous31 Good for him he got lucky and carried on great teams he didn't win them anything
"Tree bites Man" is still one of the funniest headlines in sports history
Seven rings is absolutely crazy. That’s beyond impressive.
He really just got lucky with the teams he was on.
@@user-nx9ec8mr9p I'd agree if he wasn't a contributor to those rings.
@user-nx9ec8mr9p he hit a lot of clutch shots and had some good games too. There's a reason why those teams wanted him and had him on the court in tight games down the wire.
We make our own luck in life
It's pretty easy when your carried by great teams. While being a role player at best.
It’s utterly unfathomable to me that Ainge is the only athlete in history to be voted first-team HS all-American in baseball, basketball AND football.
Dude always looked like he should have been bagging groceries, but he was an absolute freak of a player.
Really? That is pretty interesting. Would've thought there would be at least a few more.
Very impressive
Level of Highschool athletics is vastly overrated.
Actually Robert Horry had a bigger battle to fight during those times. When he was with Phoenix, he found out that his daughter had a rare disease. That's when he started to see basketball under a different light. After his 2002 shot against the Kings, they asked him how he did it, he answered: "I have a sick daughter, I've been through worse in my life. Nothing like this can really question me". We told the full story on our video about him if you want to check it out.
Yeah. In Jeff Pearlman's book on the Shaq/Kobe Lakers, he talks about this. How Bob really was more angry at the situation he was put in than he was at Phoenix/Ainge. When he got traded, it took him away from his daughter, and being able to be near her for her care, and that's the biggest reason he was so disgruntled in Phoenix. Yes, stuff with Ainge bubbled up afterwards, but being away from his kid was really the biggest source of his anger.
Tacky little self-promo at the end there 🤢
@@tim.noonan if you don't want to check it out ya, but there could be some sports history nerd sharks swimmin these waters ya never know
@@elliemyers6435 Nice insight Ellie. Horry was more like in a situation where nothing was bigger than his daughter's health, and just couldn't care that much about basketball discussions. He only wanted to be with her. Everything turned out great for him, weirdly that heartbreaking situation with his daughter is what gave life to the 'Big Shot Rob' era. He was no more a basketball player, but her daugher's hero, all that truly mattered to him.
@@tim.noonan Nah, we don't do that, it's just because we made the video about it. Maybe someone is interested, who knows. We ain't out here putting out cringy links and stuff, we just loved this story and wanted to talk about this deeper side of the plot
Ainge didn’t have a half bad career after that either. He’s the one who brought KG and Allen to Boston, won a ring with them, then a few years later, robbed the Nets blind on that KG/Pierce trade.
Did the same to the twolves with that gobert trade lol
The irony is that they had similar careers. Both were high contribution, sharp shooting, role players that played with hall of famers on perennial contending championship teams.
It’s not that ironic , a lot of guys had careers like that
Ainge averaged 27 and 11 , since when is that a role player?
@@chuckplaysgames7925 that never happened , did you look up “ainge stats” and assume his 11 points on 27 min a game was 27 and 11?
@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope my bad was half ass watching the video and seen the part about what he averaged when he joined the suns. Too young to have watched Danny ainge lol at around the 2:13 mark 🤣
Horry played most minutes and led his team in all stats except scoring (close 3rd) in the 1995 finals series. Dude looked like an all star then.
If it's a Clara secret base episode, I'm watching it instantly.
100%
I’m the opposite. Logging off.
@@thejmc4074 that's cool; there are no knives involved.
@@thejmc4074 yeah... id rather have Seth Narrating the SB vids
Kareem has six rings, 5 with the lakers and one with Milwaukee
Just a clarification, not trying to hate on the video. Excellent video! Also it’s really really easy for stuff like this to slip through.
I was scrolling the comments waiting to see if someone else noticed the same thing lol
I know I'm not the one to nitpick things but widely known things should not be a mistake in the things that you are apart of..
Yeah I noticed it too, tbh this video was an overrated beef…their running out of ideas
@@hashiman1 Yeah they did. Both Singe and Horry are annoying and successful basketball players.
@@17thNO don’t put horry in the same annoying category as Danny ainge. That’s not even a debatable comparison! There is no one as pathetically annoying as Danny ainge. Robert horry has had a flawless career!
A lot of people don’t know this but Danny Ainge was the only person named a High school All American in THREE SPORTS. 🏀 🏈 ⚾️
As a Suns fan this hurt, I remember those losses to the Rockets all too well. We blew several opportunities to take control of both series, had the Rockets on the rope in game 5 of the 95 series when we were up by 2 and Barkley shooting two free throws to seal the game and he missed both, Wesley Person's shot going in and out at the buzzer. At the same time that was such a cheap shot by Ainge and I remember it well. You cheer for a guy like Ainge when he's on your team but at the same time he made it hard to like him, especially if you grew up hating the Celtics in the 80s as a kid like I did. Hated Robert Horry as well but he was just a bad fit in Phoenix, once he was able to go back to playing his role he was great at it, as clutch a player that has ever existed. As for Ainge, still unlikable sports person.
Bit of a suns fan myself, tho mj ruled the day or Era. Interesting tho as a kid there was always this air around these 2 like every hated them, even when Bob won chips with lakers and spurs I still couldn't shake this feeling like I wasn't sposed to like Horry. Not that it was an issue for me just nice to see where those sentiments actually came from and why
@@Damnitjim7 Spurs fan here I believe some Suns fans dislike Horry cause of him hip checking Nash into the announcers table when we beat yall in the playoffs in 07
Rockets fan here. That series is embedded in my brain. Sun's were TOUGH. Ainge, Marley, KJ, Barkley... We were grateful to get out of both of those series. Will never forget the kiss of death.
"I would advise him to be god fearing" is hilarious
No mention of Ainge becoming the boss in Boston and winning a title in 2008?
this timing is incredible as i was literally discussing how horry always had his matchups fuming by doing nothing for 3 quarters and just sinking the dagger in the 4th 😂😂
I still remember Horry hip checking Nash into the scorers table during the WCF, still pissed about that one.
Yes. That was one of the worst cheap shits ever. If Nash was my teammate I would have paid that one back.
Never forget what Horry did to Nash during that Spurs-Suns playoff game tilted the chances in favor of the Spurs
@Big dic1 ok cuck
Ainge knew not to throw the ball at The Dream😂😂😂
AINGE " I DID MEAN TO HIT HIM IN THE HEAD"😂😂😂
The moment you realized Danny Ainge inavertedly helped the Lakers twice, one when Horry was traded to give Kobe and Shaq some help and now as a GM of the Jazz, he gave Vanderbilt and Beasley also to the Lakers as part of a 3 team deal with the Wolves to give LeBron and AD some help also😅
First Point: I did not know about this beef.
Second Point: I am so not surprised this beef exists😂
Great work as always Secret Base Team!🎉
This is one of those rare beef's where both guys pretty much faired well in the aftermath. Horry went on to win 5 more championships and Ainge went on to become a successful GM that produced a title in 08. But that towel throw produced the greatest turn around for a player in NBA history.
You missed the part Ainge became the best executive, head of a church and the list goes on and on and on. Don't sell Danny boy short
Makes you think did any of this come into play when Horry hip checked Nash(PHX) on the sideline.
Nobody does the narration better than Clara. Give her an SB spinoff channel
1. The shirts in 1987 to Ainge were printed during the EASTERN conference finals, not Western.
2. Misspelled Dan ‘Majerle.’
They also got Kareem's ring count wrong definitely not their finest video but still good
This was so good!~ i died laughing at that towel in Danny's face 😂😂😂
My first Secret base video, made me smile! Super well written, bravo 👏 👏
I love these random beefs from back in the day, especially the older ones. It’s easy to judge players now in the social media era but if these players had access to this tech, they’d be just as crazy, if not more 😂
The youngsters wonder why we can't stop talking about the 90's The drama was REAL 😂 The beef nowadays is medium rare the beef back in the days was well done
I just truly love the episodes with your voice. You're amazing at narration, and your speech cadence is really different then other people.
Love these videos, my low-key favorite thing on youtube
Robert Horry threw a towel at Danny Ainge on live TV..
Will Smith threw an open-hand slap at Chris Rock on live TV.
Can't make this up 😂
what’s the relevance?
As a lifelong Rockets fan that was in college aspiring to be a sports writer (four years later I would actually be a Rocket's beat writer for two seasons) during this beef and the two title runs, I remember every second of this beef like is was yesterday. Gotta love the quote from Hakeem. The inner peace, grace and wisdom Hakeem developed over time was so beautiful and impressive.
🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
Great vid and great work Clara.
Damn, didn’t think Big Shot had THAT many rings.
I’ll never forget Danny Ainge throwing the basketball at Mario Ellie’s face
As a HUGE Rockets fan, I love Robert Horry
Kareem has 6 1 in Milwaukee and 5 with the Lakers.
I saw the title and heard Clara's voice... then I clicked it and was made happy. :)
I still feel there needs to be a Dorktown saga on the Suns. Also, Clara is the treat we don’t deserve.
That Dorktown would be so hot.
She has an insufferable annoying voice
Now these are the types of beef history we need, its all fun and games doing modern ones and they should be done sometimes but for the most part we all know and remember them. Let's dig up the ones some people might've forgotten or didn't know, ik I didn't know this
Only out for 12 minutes love finding new videos
Nice piece. Well-written and produced, and the voice talent was excellent!
i like the addendum with the 350 degrees at 20 minutes, always love your videos clara
This was well done. Great story telling
She said 1987 western finals,it was eastern finals.
Another great video. I was still a young kid in the 90s but I know Horry from his days with the Lakers. Ainge is a competitor, dirty maybe\sure, I was too young back then, but a great competitor nonetheless. I really appreciate your work Clara! ❤❤❤
Ainge was a smaller version of Bill Laimbeer
Crazy that Danny Ainge is one of the best athletes this earth has seen.... nobody wants to talk about that tho bc he looks like.. well he looks like Danny Ainge. Hahaha. Pro baseball... pro basketball and honestly he probably would've went to the NFL as well. One of the top recruits out of Oregon and I'm pretty sure he's the only person to ever be a High school First Team All American in Football, Basketball and Baseball
Lmao “bc looks like Danny ange”
@@JitinMisra hahahaha
"Marjle" was never an NBA player, but... great video. I love all your "beef" videos, specially the ones about "smaller" beefs.
10/10 despite "Marjle" ;)
What you got against marjle
0:06 This photo of Ainge is hilarious - that was a choice (and I'm here for it!)
At 1:19, Tree bites man.
What a headline.
Missed opportunity to mention the Horry hip check on Steve Nash, which cost the Suns one of their best title opportunities ever.
All this time and I was never aware of Danny Ainge absolutely smoking Mario Ellie in the kisser during that series, despite my knowledge of the series as a whole (or so I thought). You're the absolute best as always, Clara!
I remember that game...Ainge and Tree Rollins, who, after the scuffle, was standing there holding his finger...there was no doubt in anyone's mind what happened. Ainge was alot like Horry, incidentally: a good player who went to even better teams...thing that's funny is that by the time Ainge retired, he was already wearing a suit, like, instantaneously!
Ahhhh working saturdays are much less annoying knowing a juicy secret base video is gonna drop
I grew up in this era of basketball and had never heard of this. Cant wait to watch this.
OH HELL YES! I WANTED THIS BEEF! THANKS!
He didn’t just throw. Towel in someone’s face as you say. He PUBLICLY threw a towel in Ainge’s face
That is a lot of rings.
Great episode as always. Good night and good game.
My favourite voice over narrator 🥹🥹🥹
THANK YOU!! Been waiting for ANYTHING Robert Horry! The man is a Legend, an NBA finals hero with 7 Rings that doesn't get talked about enough. Thank you 🤜🤛
Dude needs to be in the HOF
@@piscator2813🦬💩
1:46 Ainge also played on some fantastic Portland teams in the very early 90s. Clyde, Terry Porter, prime Jerome Kersey 👀, young Drazen Petrovic... Magic, Big Game James, and B got to bounce that troll on national TV one final time in the 91 Western Conf. Finals.
I’m usually a basketball head when it comes to a lot of things and players and everything I hear I known about but I had no idea Danny was in the mlb before the nba
I absolutely enjoy Clara and the Beef history series.
Horry vs Ainge
Beef history
Clara Morris on commentary
Life is good
Barely see suns related videos, made me happy to see something along those lines
I can remember us in Houston were pissed when we traded Horry and Sam Cassell, but kind of excited when we got Charles Barkley. We won a ring for Clyde, and tried to win one for Charles.
The Rockets-Suns playoff faceoffs in 1994 and 1995 is one I binge-watched during the height of the pandemic.
It was such a treat and refresher. Prior that, I used to read this rift back in the mid-90s through a weekly local sports mag.
Great, enticing presentation as always.
If only Danny Ainge pushed further and helped the Suns better, Robert Horry should "only" have six or five rings, and helped to have Charles Barkley a better chance of getting his either or both those years.
Conversely, the "choking" of Phoenix turned Houston into clutch and unfazed by big leads, be it score or series (ask New York and Orlando).
I forgot he was even in Phoenix. Thanks for reminding me of that incident.
Awesome mini documentary.
Will always remember these 2 players. Both legends, both very competitive especially Ainge. You can see it in how he played and how he worked as Celtics GM. Most recently, in the interview between Steph Curry and MJ, they talked about Ainge talking alot of trash in the golf course LOL
I always liked Robert Horry. However, I am ok with him not being in the HOF. He is one of the greatest role players of all time and having 7 rings proves that. However, thats really all he was - a role player. He wasnt that 6th man who gave you a spark off the bench. He wasnt a defensive powerhouse. He was a power forward that didnt get in the way of the star centers of his team. He was a starter who just played smart. He didnt dominate any statistical categories, nor does he have any accolades. He would get you 10 points a game, a block or two, and a steal or two. And being a big man able to shoot 3s, he opened up the floor.
are u kidding
1995 game 7 kiss of death!
4:14
“You are a hypocrite” LMAO love Hakeem for that.
Beef history: Danny Ainge vs. current Utah Jazz fans
I haven't been following the NBA for a couple of years. What is Ainge doing to the Jazz?
@@cupertinoish he dared to do a rebuild. And all the old Mormons in Utah who don’t actually follow basketball are mad.
Robert Horrys game winner against the Kings in 02 WCF needs a rewind.
Hey there, Secret Base! Is there any way you guys can do a Beef History episode about Michael Jordan’s beef with Jerry Krause? I know you guys already did an episode about Scottie Pippen vs. the Chicago Bulls, but I think you could do a great episode about M.J.’s rivalry with Krause. Please keep me posted.
Oh, and great job as always with this Robert Harry vs. Danny Ainge episode!
Could be why he’s a incompetent GM or selling the hornets team? Couldn’t keep his ego in check … always thought he could do the late Jerry Krause’s job or better .. not always the case
Horry always says throwing that towel was the best moment of his career.
Danny Ainge was a very good player. He was actually a good head coach too. He is a good executive as well. He is very good at everything he does.
He’s one of those guys who excels at everything.
I didn't realize just how good of a head coach danny ainge was until I saw his record.
I'm sure someone's already mentioned it, Kareem has 6 chips.
The world needs more beef
Can we just appreciate Hakeem. “I would advise him to be God-fearing”.
He isn’t trash talking, he is genuinely worried about Ainge’s moral character.
very nice video!
You didn't mention that Ainge made the NBA finals with the Blazers in 92 as well.
Is there a rewinder episode about the NC State-Houston title game in 1983? There should be.
2:08 typo on Dan Majerle’s name. Love the content, just noticed this.
Glad at least one other person noticed this. 👍
Kareem got 6 rings. And Ainge was an allstar in '88 (more than a role player)
Never knew the Celtics and Pistons were in the 1987 WESTERN Conference Finals. Cool stuff.
Lol I was thinking that I noticed western conference lol
If you really think that Danny Ainge caused the fight against Tree Rollins, you need to watch the whole game again.
Ainge just did not accept to be pushed around, including by 7footers.
NBA was like that, at the time.
I'm in love with your voice, Clara
I'm a simple man, I see beef I click