I have listened extensively, many, many hours, to the arguments on both sides regarding honoring the Sabbath as stated in the 4th commandment. As well have studied and prayed over the scriptures referenced on both sides of the argument. What perplexes me most is the obstinance to simply acknowledge and humble oneself to the obedience of what would seem to be the most likely intent regarding the specific ordering within the commandment and as it relates so perfectly to our calendar. It would seem so easy for Christians of all denominations to simply worship and observe the Sabbath on Saturday, so as to be sure, without question, you are faithfully following the commandment to its fullest?
The earthly obligation was to earthly Israel. We have the full heavenly Sabbath now, that Christ has been crucified and we rest in His finished atonement (which completeness of atonement the SDA deny through the Investigative Judgement Doctrine as well as through the Doctrine Of Satanic Atonement (where Satan bears the sins of believers and dies for those sins as a burnt offering sacrifice which completes the atonement)). To think the fulfillment is an earthly day of the week, is not Scripturally viable. The important thing, which we owe to have not ignored, is that we rest in the finished atonement.
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah I'm interested in the resistance by so many to simply consider practicing the Sabbath on Saturday. I have no interest in speaking ill of SDA or any other Christians. I consider the other nine commandments to be "earthly" obligations and I strive to follow them. Can you please share the scripture that supports your claim that, "...to think the fulfillment is an earthly day of the week is not scripturally viable."
@@aaronsabel Those who insist that they reject the Gospel, are not Christians, and we don't help them by failing to offer correction. I have no resistance to practicing sabbath on Saturday, but if you want to understand the reasoning of those who do, this video is the best explanation I've heard to help me understand their reasoning, even though I don't see the reasoning as sufficiently conclusive. I cite Hebrews 4 verses 1-11, in accordance with the argumentation which the epistle is presenting, in accordance with the hermeneutical framework upon which the argumentation consistently relies. That is that Ancient Israel's entrance into the promised land shadowed the same thing that the earthly sabbath shadowed, which is to enter into the rest which is to trust in the finished atonement achieved by Lord Iesus. The argumentation of The Epistle To The Hebrews does nothing to address any keeping of a day of the week, but rather that is an Old Testament shadow which is being applied to teach the heavenly fulness. If the heavenly fulfillment of the sabbath is an earthly observance of a day of the week, then it is not the rest of trusting in Christ's finished atonement, because Christ's atonement is not a day of the week. Also, entering into the promised land was not a day of the week, but it shadowed the same thing that the sabbath shadowed: "So we see that they could not enter in [from the wilderness to the promised land] because of unbelief.... ...For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word [logos/statement: the Gospel] preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest,... ... For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works... ... For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. For the word [logos/statement: the Gospel] of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit [breath and gust: that is it discerns our self-motivation from God's inspiration/inspiriting motivating us], and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." [gaps are for brevity and focus, not for obfuscation] We see that not entering into the promised land, is the same as not resting on the sabbath day, in that they both shadow fatal lack of trust in God and His Messiah and His Gospel. If we follow their example of unbelief, then we fail to enter into the heavenly Rest in Christ Iesus. You may not want to speak against the blasphemies of the SDA, but the Author of Hebrews (God) wants them to heed the warning and turn away from their own destruction. We see that the whole point is about belief, and that it points to the Gospel itself as the purpose of the argumentation, specifically in terms of trusting such that we come to rest in Christ's finished work. Rather than laboring to contribute to our own salvation, we should labor to trust that Christ is sufficient, lest we insult His blood (this detail, of insulting Christ's blood, is specified in chapter 10). We see that the Authorial intent is to emphasize that sincere faith, that which the shadows pointed to, to emphasize that Christ is enough for that faith to be enough.
Jesus said The Sabbath wasn't made for man, man made the Sabbath. So saying whatever day you worship is OK just make sure you do it! Come on! Read the scriptures, please. Another thing is you can be a Christian and serve God wrongly So read the scriptures and pray for discernment
Who was Paul talking to? Why was he talking to them? What was the context of the time? And what was he talking about? What sabbaths (plural) is he talking about?
You've given me the best explanation for the Sabbath.
Excellent biblical exposition. Highly recommended to listen to the whole message.
I have listened extensively, many, many hours, to the arguments on both sides regarding honoring the Sabbath as stated in the 4th commandment.
As well have studied and prayed over the scriptures referenced on both sides of the argument.
What perplexes me most is the obstinance to simply acknowledge and humble oneself to the obedience of what would seem to be the most likely intent regarding the specific ordering within the commandment and as it relates so perfectly to our calendar.
It would seem so easy for Christians of all denominations to simply worship and observe the Sabbath on Saturday, so as to be sure, without question, you are faithfully following the commandment to its fullest?
The earthly obligation was to earthly Israel. We have the full heavenly Sabbath now, that Christ has been crucified and we rest in His finished atonement (which completeness of atonement the SDA deny through the Investigative Judgement Doctrine as well as through the Doctrine Of Satanic Atonement (where Satan bears the sins of believers and dies for those sins as a burnt offering sacrifice which completes the atonement)). To think the fulfillment is an earthly day of the week, is not Scripturally viable. The important thing, which we owe to have not ignored, is that we rest in the finished atonement.
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah I'm interested in the resistance by so many to simply consider practicing the Sabbath on Saturday.
I have no interest in speaking ill of SDA or any other Christians.
I consider the other nine commandments to be "earthly" obligations and I strive to follow them.
Can you please share the scripture that supports your claim that,
"...to think the fulfillment is an earthly day of the week is not scripturally viable."
@@aaronsabel Those who insist that they reject the Gospel, are not Christians, and we don't help them by failing to offer correction.
I have no resistance to practicing sabbath on Saturday, but if you want to understand the reasoning of those who do, this video is the best explanation I've heard to help me understand their reasoning, even though I don't see the reasoning as sufficiently conclusive.
I cite Hebrews 4 verses 1-11, in accordance with the argumentation which the epistle is presenting, in accordance with the hermeneutical framework upon which the argumentation consistently relies. That is that Ancient Israel's entrance into the promised land shadowed the same thing that the earthly sabbath shadowed, which is to enter into the rest which is to trust in the finished atonement achieved by Lord Iesus. The argumentation of The Epistle To The Hebrews does nothing to address any keeping of a day of the week, but rather that is an Old Testament shadow which is being applied to teach the heavenly fulness.
If the heavenly fulfillment of the sabbath is an earthly observance of a day of the week, then it is not the rest of trusting in Christ's finished atonement, because Christ's atonement is not a day of the week. Also, entering into the promised land was not a day of the week, but it shadowed the same thing that the sabbath shadowed:
"So we see that they could not enter in [from the wilderness to the promised land] because of unbelief....
...For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word [logos/statement: the Gospel] preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest,...
... For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works...
... For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. For the word [logos/statement: the Gospel] of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit [breath and gust: that is it discerns our self-motivation from God's inspiration/inspiriting motivating us], and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
[gaps are for brevity and focus, not for obfuscation]
We see that not entering into the promised land, is the same as not resting on the sabbath day, in that they both shadow fatal lack of trust in God and His Messiah and His Gospel. If we follow their example of unbelief, then we fail to enter into the heavenly Rest in Christ Iesus. You may not want to speak against the blasphemies of the SDA, but the Author of Hebrews (God) wants them to heed the warning and turn away from their own destruction. We see that the whole point is about belief, and that it points to the Gospel itself as the purpose of the argumentation, specifically in terms of trusting such that we come to rest in Christ's finished work. Rather than laboring to contribute to our own salvation, we should labor to trust that Christ is sufficient, lest we insult His blood (this detail, of insulting Christ's blood, is specified in chapter 10). We see that the Authorial intent is to emphasize that sincere faith, that which the shadows pointed to, to emphasize that Christ is enough for that faith to be enough.
Jesus said The Sabbath wasn't made for man, man made the Sabbath. So saying whatever day you worship is OK just make sure you do it! Come on! Read the scriptures, please. Another thing is you can be a Christian and serve God wrongly So read the scriptures and pray for discernment
So is the sabbath on Saturday??
Colossians 2:16
Who was Paul talking to? Why was he talking to them? What was the context of the time? And what was he talking about? What sabbaths (plural) is he talking about?