I wonder if the autonomous drifters are ever found after having gone down moulons and emerging at the ocean. If so, were they able to keep a record of their journey through the ice?
Also, the holes in the ice drill themselves, in part, by virtue of the phase change in ice due to hydraulic (hydrostatic) pressure. As the hydraulic pressure rises the tendency to liquefy increases - see triple point for ice. Once the hole is made to beneath the ice structure, then flow takes over and that's that.
I am close to certain that I met Asa Rennermalm and her students when I went cycling to the edge of the ice sheet east of Kangerlussuaq in 2019. Great to see that they're still hard at work! 😊
Watching in 2024 and this info is from 2015. Would love to know how much has change in 9yrs looks like i gona have to do my own research. Very interesting thank you
Maybe we can figure out a way to dam up those rivers before winter so the lake behind it freezes. You could also solar pump some of it back up to higher ground to refreeze it.
@@benjaminbrewer2569it don't cost no $10,000 to visit Greenland! I think I spent $1200 roundtrip from Springfield, Missouri for airfare to Nuuk, Greenland.
The thermodynamic calorimetry test should be done on the ice to determine how much energy is actually already in the ice crystals in order to understand how close the ice is to a phase change from solid to liquid. The energy required to change solid ice to liquid is very high when compared to what happens to water's temperature when energy is added to it in its liquid state. The real question is how much energy is already stored in the ice building up to a phase change. Where are those studies?
Ice is less dense than water because it expands around 9% on freezing. So 1 anything of ice is about 0.92 in water. Units don't matter, foot, yard, meter, km, or mile.
Fascinating documentary, made in 2015 somebody said. In any case it's great to know some very educated, dedicated and well-funded people are working on the problem. The problem of climate change and rising water levels . . . that is going to be a BIG problem for our children and grand-children.
@@gyrogearloose1345 all it takes is really deep pockets and an agenda, to create a giant hoax. Show me any tangible proof humans are the cause of climate change.
@@gyrogearloose1345 Actually imagination is pretty well developed. The political class has the gullible class imagining that if they don't vote for the political class of choice we are doomed!
NOSA tide gauge data from the 100s of ground based gauges show no signal for an increase in rate of rise since records began in 1860. This is freely and easily avail data on the NOAA todes and sea level page.
Greenland was on the North pole between 270 to 130ky ago when this ice was formed. At the latitude where it now is, it is cold but not cold enough to maintain the ice sheet. That is why the ice sheet is melting very slowly. Scientists like these dudes on the ice sheet spending millions on futile research have not figured this out yet, because they are moderate intelligent materialists.
I recall learning that for every 1mm of melt contribution to sea level rise, another 4mm of rise due to the expansion of warming water occurs. I found that to be a stunning concept but I could not find any evidence to the contrary. This would have been about 2015.
Speaking as an oceanographer in years past that is kind of a phony claim. It requires that both the melting of ice sheets and the warming of the oceans remain linear - which seems rather unlikely. In any event, warming doesn't have much impact on coastlines. For example: a 0.1% expansion in the deep ocean would be about 4 meters of increased water depth. But on the coast where water is shallow, a 0.1% increase in 100 meters is only 0.1 meter. The conclusion here is that warming has very little impact on coastline sea level rise and we really don't care about depth changes in the central oceans. It is still, in every place, the same mass of water.
@grindupBaker Interesting that satellite altimetry does not show what you claim (NOAA's Office of satellite altimetry shows a central ocean sea level rise that averages about 3.1 mm/yr since 1993).. In other words, your claim is complete balderdash that is NOT supported by any legitimate data.
Yes, but there are people here now. It's one thing to have extremes when there are no people, but now there are 8 billion who are affected. Climate change is not the only challenge facing people. Extinction of insects, birds, fish and other animals are a threat as is ocean pollution and acidification. Add to that the increasing amount of microplastic and forever chemical pollution and climate change is just one part of the challenge.
@@mtnphot our survival is not at risk you have bought into a theory that is not valid. The climate has always changed and sometimes that change ends one life form but starts another. Like wild fires, they are part of the life cycles. New growth starts in the burned areas. Climate change is a for profit scam.
Problem is there is no viable alternative to fossil fuel. I think people understand the carbon problem and have made the choice to NOT demolition the world economy. But not to worry the fusion industrial complex will be along soon to save the day....
@@jasonpearson2507 😂😂😂 That is a huge issue people do not even understand the problems causing climate change. Humans are destined to reset the biosphere and wipe out our species due to ignorance and greed.
@@INHUMANENATION Bahahahaha... Ready. set, blood draw? Please I am older, wiser, longer, and stronger. Oh and healthier too... Good for yourself? Others? Sounds like a fortified position of greed? from another ignorant westerner? Am I giving up 20 years? and I bet you cannot keep up. Your a lost soul with no direction! Get educated before you spew garbage from the garbage can
The US air force has mapped Greenland, so we now know how Greenland would look like if the ice isn't there. Greenland has a *much* bigger Gran Canyon than the US one, so I think that if one can do that, one can find the flow of water from a moulin to the ocean - during the night.
@@charonstyxferryman Using a tracer helps you understand how fast and în which direcțtion (spring s-o to say) al the ponor points on the surface are draining! Helps a lot to understand what îs hapenning în the underground paths and the involved water volum!
Wow, I knew the models were over-rated but for them not to consider that surface ice melted by sunlight would re-freeze at night, and so on, just shows how crap these models are.
Have all these " scientists " forgotten about the fact that we are in an interglacial period . In other words we will have a other iceage at some time in the future. All it will take is a few large volcanic eruptions.
You're right. You must contact those "scientists" and inform them that your decades of field research, lab analysis, & computer modeling has exposed the critical flaw in their hypothesis.
meh, once you take it away from the ice it looks like any other water... tis a magical blue, but thats the ice itself. probably something about absorption of light... iunno...
DONT WORRY ABOUT IT WE ARE FINE ITS YOUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WHO NEED TO WORRY, quite a number of people here who are really down the rabbit hole of dont believe them they're scientists
I wonder when humans continue to extract hydrocarbons in other places in the solar system (particularly petroleum), if they'll still call it "fossil fuels".
Where can they burn them? You need life to make O2 for combustion. I don't understand your point; you already used the corresponding word "hydrocarbon."
So.. alot of talk about sea level rises and yet there is no talk how the model predictions from 10 - 15 - 20 yrs ago hold up. I bet the models predicted disaster and it has not happened.
Milankovitch orbital cycles seem to initiate a change which is then accentuated or delayed by feedback cycles here such as change in albedo as ice disappears, etc...
So, the tilt of the Earth due to our moon smashing and reforming - over 5.6 billion years ago - Creating the 4 Seasons! This is now, all of a sudden, a surprise? Wow, I want a government grant.
The Greenland ice mass balance data show that it is losing 1/15,000th of its ice mass per year. This is difference between what ice accumulates and what ice melts. At this rate, Greenland will be ice free in 15,000 years.
Very dangerous, this is work for drones, bots. No one needs to die here. As to the slower than expected melt rates, I would factor in the fragmented upper layer of snow/ firn as an insulator preventing loss of ice beneath. I wish someone could pump some of this incredibly pure water into a tanker and ship it south. Best water in the world.
boring. maybe they WANT to go there? could sit in front of a screen, isolate. or could get out there and experience the world you live in. when your time is up, your time is up. no point living forever if you arent doing anything.
If you really want the world to be aware, you should aggregate all of the melting ice around the world. Showing a couple of the biggest chunks really does not reflect the magnitude of the problems we're facing.
C3S reports that 1.2 trillion tons of global ice are melting annually, so 3.3 billion tons/day, and each pound of melting ice is absorbing 144 BTUs of waste heat energy. So, our AC is on "high" but, still, the planet continues to warm at the current rate of 0.214 degC/yr., so 1 degC every 5 yrs.
Glacial rivers prove that the ecosystem is working flawlessly. Thank God the ice is melting or all the fresh water on the planet would be frozen in ice! Nice to know the climate is perfect and we will never see sea levels rise...
"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.
Greener may not be the end all that you seem to imply by simply stating favorability. Prime areas of rain forest in Brazil for example run the risk of becoming savannah and many northern forests are slated to burn. Water issues in many agricultural areas (too much and then too little) are typical of changes that can reduce the production of food. All kinds of shifts in climate at an increasingly rapid pace can overwhelm natural systems and lead to die offs including humanity. Good luck with your theory though. One can wish for the best.
There is always carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and plants take as much as they can use. It's the CO2 that plants are unable to absorb that's the problem for climate. Pumping more of the gas into the atmosphere isn't going to green the planet. Retreating ice and snow as the planet warms will also register as a greener planet.
A) it's recognized and taken into account B) simultaneously approximately 30 million hectares, 70 million acres of forest is being destroyed by insects and fires, farming. C) plants have lived and evolved for tens of millions of years when CO2 levels were much lower. Imagine if you double your intake of sugar? D) the biosphere source of all life is in decline across many species.
When the melting gets down to the radioactive waste buried in the ice I'll bet they will be able to trace the flow under the ice a lot better. At least they will be able to be sure where it reaches the sea.
The icecap is 1 Km (3,000+ ft) thick, and Greenland, i.e. Denmark (Greenland is our territory), don't like mining in the Artic, ... something about unwanted pollution.
@@rickyal9810 If Arizona in the summer is too hot for you, go somewhere cooler. I agree, the earth is still too cold. We are still in an ice age, as can clearly be seen by all this ice in Greenland in the middle of the summer.
Maybe we should pipe all that seasonal run off to the deserts of this planet and plant forests, refilling dried up aquifers and locking up all that water in another way.
Let's do it. Big tunnels and pipes! Time to call in Musk and the Boring Company! Planet-wide underground water delivery! But wait a minute ... Musk again!!! Oh no no, not Musk again!
This is just fearmongering, the oceans have not risen at all, and yet they spoon-feed us this climate crap till our heads pop. I also love how they state how Ice melts at the peak of summer. I mean who new right? Summer, of all times.Hmmmmmmmmmm.
I am 49. I remember when I was in grade 7, that was the beginning of the fear of sea level rise. by 2000 we were going to be all living inland, I lived in the Fraser River Delta. Guess what.. there are still people living in the Delta
@@allangibson8494 You do know the permafrost line has been moving north (in a general sense) since the end of the last Ice Age and in a more specific sense since the end of the Little Ice Age in the mid 1800s, right?
@@kirklaird5020 And most cities were built on a land level that was just above sea level in the last two centuries. Rising sea levels are an infrastructure problem that needs addressing.
First lesson: the models are wrong. Last lesson Our sea level models show we are doomed... uhhh.. wait whu..?? ( Not one person who lives on the or near the ice was consulted about ice sheet characteristics, A bunch of Southern California eggheads who have NO experience in the arctic are guessing what about the ice sheets support their hot-house agenda..)
Evitar que la corriente se precipite en profundidad, mejoraría la estabilidad de los glaciares Recursos para diseñar soluciones hay, si nos quedamos en los informes y alertas Nuestra historia está cantada
I love ground research done by observation, collection of data and analysis. But I get real tired when they then tie their findings to apocalyptical visions from flawed computer projections.
They forgot to mention that we’ve had permanent bases in the Antarctic for about 120 years and every year they record an increase of 8 inches of ice per year. Every now and then there’s a bit breaks off the Vladivostok shelf because of excess weight and lever action and there’s a few bits melting due to thermal vents but all in all there’s a balance between that and Greenland which is why oceans have risen at a steady 3mm per year for as long as we’ve been measuring them.
Very interesting. But the bottom line is this: the amount of snow that falls on Greenland each winter slightly exceeds the amount of ice that melts each summer. So sea level rise from the melting ice sheet is not a problem at this time.
I think you're wrong... the ice sheet is contracting... so it's opposite of what you say... less snow than melt. Look into it! Cheers and good life to you Louis... N
@@newtloken7884 Actually there is more snow than melt. The difference, is the amount of ice that flows into the ocean as a glacier. In some places in Greenland the ice sheet is contracting. In others the ice sheet is expanding. Impossible to know for sure what the totals are. We can only estimate. What is true is that sea level rise along the world's coasts, based on tide gauge data, is averaging about 1.8 cm/decade - and has been the same since the mid-1800s. The extra water is coming from somewhere - presumably both continental glaciers and the Greenland ice sheet.
Sea level rise... is far less than the movement of earth, eg in Sweden or the southern French coastline, medieval harbors are dry, while New Orleans and Venice are sinking which got nothing to do with the sea level but subsidence.
This is talking about global average sea level rise. There are many factors that can affect sea level in local areas such as isostatic rebound, uplift in tectonic plate margins, magma chambers, even ocean currents themselves. The people researching sea level know all this already.
Not only does it snow, it snows in Greenland MORE in winter than it melts in summer. The process of calving is not only from "lubricating rivers", but from the Billion tons of New snow every year.
Sea level has been rising at the same very small steady rate for the last 220 years. The industrial era has not accelerated that slow steady rise. If we put more money into mitigation rather than renewables that are not reliable, then we will be ready for any impact from that slow and steady rise.
sure thats the sea level changing and not the continent with the seashore, riding atop a tectonic plate (or several...) thats subsiding? ive never been able to tell what the ideal water level is in a container of no fixed shape or volume, and is constantly varying...
CO2 level rise accelerated from the 1960’s with the industrialisation of Asia. It isn’t a change over 220 years - it’s risen by a quarter over the last sixty years.
Kind of logical... except that Antarctica receives relatively little annual precipitation compared to the ice fields you mention. So outflow and inflow need to be kept in perspective before making that conclusion.
How much did this exposition cost..of course during the summer there are going to be rivers forming and then going under the ice..and during winter this all freezes...wow they get paid huge bucks to tell the obvious.
good documentary, but comments about lubrication or hydroplaning of the glacier on water are completely wrong. the water is under pressure at depth (rho*g*h) and decreases effective stress - also bouncy is in play for parts effectively floating on the melt water. the shear strength of meltwater, as a newtonian fluid, at the base of the glacier is zero. thus lubrication or hydroplaning are non existent
'The number one reason we are here is to make sure we use all the grant money we received, which in turn enhances our chances at receiving future grants. What? Oh, ice or sea levels or something.'
Humans have been surviving great floods for thousands of years. Biblical tales notwithstanding, nearly every early human culture has a historical recounting of floods or repeated great floods. Even if every American today drove electric vehicles and used electrons created only on virtue of nuclear energy, China (and India soon, too) brings two or three new coal-fired power plants online every month. *_TRUST !!_*
The Chinese communists encourage the “green energy transition” to cripple our industrial capacity, while they themselves continue to increase their fossil fueled industrial capacity to take over. Their goal is to be the sole source of manufactured goods for the entire world, which is to say, they wish to rule the world.
So, camping out in Greenland on NASA's mighty nickle...that about it? By the way, shouldn't The Danes be paying for this? Afterall, it is their island and its famously not for sale.
Want to end quote global warming turn of the power and go back to living life instead of feeding these people researching everything. Ya that harsh to accept but it would slow your concerns of quote global warming!
The melt/freeze/remelyt phenomenon makes sense and is so helpful in better modeling. Congratulations.
I wonder if the autonomous drifters are ever found after having gone down moulons and emerging at the ocean. If so, were they able to keep a record of their journey through the ice?
Also, the holes in the ice drill themselves, in part, by virtue of the phase change in ice due to hydraulic (hydrostatic) pressure. As the hydraulic pressure rises the tendency to liquefy increases - see triple point for ice. Once the hole is made to beneath the ice structure, then flow takes over and that's that.
This is a particurlarly great report. Worth viewing, shareing and bookmarking. Thanmk you
Excellent job!
I am close to certain that I met Asa Rennermalm and her students when I went cycling to the edge of the ice sheet east of Kangerlussuaq in 2019. Great to see that they're still hard at work! 😊
Watching in 2024 and this info is from 2015. Would love to know how much has change in 9yrs looks like i gona have to do my own research. Very interesting thank you
Sea level rise is still linear - despite all the predictions and false claims.
Maybe we can figure out a way to dam up those rivers before winter so the lake behind it freezes. You could also solar pump some of it back up to higher ground to refreeze it.
I'd love to drink from one of those blue rivers.
Option 1 find an easier access glacier. Option 2 spend $10,000 to $100,000 on a trip to Greenland.
@@benjaminbrewer2569it don't cost no $10,000 to visit Greenland! I think I spent $1200 roundtrip from Springfield, Missouri for airfare to Nuuk, Greenland.
Thank you for researching this stuff!
Knowledge is power.
The thermodynamic calorimetry test should be done on the ice to determine how much energy is actually already in the ice crystals in order to understand how close the ice is to a phase change from solid to liquid. The energy required to change solid ice to liquid is very high when compared to what happens to water's temperature when energy is added to it in its liquid state. The real question is how much energy is already stored in the ice building up to a phase change. Where are those studies?
Moulin - New fear unlocked
Must be a thrill boogey boarding on the river Styx.
Question... if 1 foot of snow equals 1 inch water. Then what is the ice to water ratio? Inches or feet?
Ice is less dense than water because it expands around 9% on freezing. So 1 anything of ice is about 0.92 in water. Units don't matter, foot, yard, meter, km, or mile.
@@cageordie thank you!
A ratio is a pure number, not a length measurement.
Nice tents.
Interesting report, thank you.
Cool. A boogie board.
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Where does all water that makes the snow that makes the ice come from, the ocean. It's a closed loop system which is dynamic.
Fascinating documentary, made in 2015 somebody said. In any case it's great to know some very educated, dedicated and well-funded people are working on the problem. The problem of climate change and rising water levels . . . that is going to be a BIG problem for our children and grand-children.
"that is going to be a BIG problem for our children and grand-childred."
Yes. They may have to move a few meters inland.
Another BIG problem: lack of knowledge and imagination seems to be very widespread among the population!
@@gyrogearloose1345 all it takes is really deep pockets and an agenda, to create a giant hoax. Show me any tangible proof humans are the cause of climate change.
@@gyrogearloose1345 Actually imagination is pretty well developed. The political class has the gullible class imagining that if they don't vote for the political class of choice we are doomed!
@@thomasmaughan4798actually whole countries are about to be wiped out due to sea level rise. Just look up Tuvalu!
NOSA tide gauge data from the 100s of ground based gauges show no signal for an increase in rate of rise since records began in 1860. This is freely and easily avail data on the NOAA todes and sea level page.
Greenland was on the North pole between 270 to 130ky ago when this ice was formed. At the latitude where it now is, it is cold but not cold enough to maintain the ice sheet. That is why the ice sheet is melting very slowly. Scientists like these dudes on the ice sheet spending millions on futile research have not figured this out yet, because they are moderate intelligent materialists.
Interesting. I live near tideland's. Nothing measurable obvious changed in sea level height in 70 years.
I recall learning that for every 1mm of melt contribution to sea level rise, another 4mm of rise due to the expansion of warming water occurs. I found that to be a stunning concept but I could not find any evidence to the contrary. This would have been about 2015.
Facts does not matter, only emotions.
Speaking as an oceanographer in years past that is kind of a phony claim. It requires that both the melting of ice sheets and the warming of the oceans remain linear - which seems rather unlikely. In any event, warming doesn't have much impact on coastlines. For example: a 0.1% expansion in the deep ocean would be about 4 meters of increased water depth. But on the coast where water is shallow, a 0.1% increase in 100 meters is only 0.1 meter. The conclusion here is that warming has very little impact on coastline sea level rise and we really don't care about depth changes in the central oceans. It is still, in every place, the same mass of water.
@grindupBaker Ignorant people tend to have that reaction.
@grindupBaker Interesting that satellite altimetry does not show what you claim (NOAA's Office of satellite altimetry shows a central ocean sea level rise that averages about 3.1 mm/yr since 1993).. In other words, your claim is complete balderdash that is NOT supported by any legitimate data.
@@kirklaird5020 UA-cam comments section seems created just for them.
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Anything is an improvement over Tiny.
the movement of the water cools things, as well wind chill
i bet the fishing in these remote regions is Great!
Obviously the models require assumptions. Assumptions can often reflect the bias of the assumer.
He says it is (meaning Greenland) is the single largest chunk of ice in the world. Uh, hold on, what about Antarctica?
He says: "Greenland is the single largest melting chunk of ice . . . "
With emphasis (his) on "melting".
Very important to listen to the EXACT words of the speakers
The climate has never remained constant and changed to extremes before humans existed. Computer modeling is limited to the base information provided.
Not on these short timescale, this ice is ancient
Yes, but there are people here now. It's one thing to have extremes when there are no people, but now there are 8 billion who are affected. Climate change is not the only challenge facing people. Extinction of insects, birds, fish and other animals are a threat as is ocean pollution and acidification. Add to that the increasing amount of microplastic and forever chemical pollution and climate change is just one part of the challenge.
@@mtnphot plants and animals went extinct before humans existed. Humans are not the scapegoat for everything.
@HughBaillargeon-nm8hq Their extinction did not affect our survival. The reasons for their extinction is threatening our existence as well.
@@mtnphot our survival is not at risk you have bought into a theory that is not valid. The climate has always changed and sometimes that change ends one life form but starts another. Like wild fires, they are part of the life cycles. New growth starts in the burned areas. Climate change is a for profit scam.
cool video. Humans desperately need to reconsider their choices for health and longevity
Problem is there is no viable alternative to fossil fuel.
I think people understand the carbon problem and have made the choice to NOT demolition the world economy.
But not to worry the fusion industrial complex will be along soon to save the day....
@@jasonpearson2507 😂😂😂 That is a huge issue people do not even understand the problems causing climate change. Humans are destined to reset the biosphere and wipe out our species due to ignorance and greed.
@@WFPBFORLIFE wise decisions are rarely made when desperate.
@@INHUMANENATION Sounds like your lost and misled about the real issues
@@INHUMANENATION Bahahahaha... Ready. set, blood draw? Please I am older, wiser, longer, and stronger. Oh and healthier too...
Good for yourself? Others? Sounds like a fortified position of greed? from another ignorant westerner? Am I giving up 20 years? and I bet you cannot keep up. Your a lost soul with no direction! Get educated before you spew garbage from the garbage can
The smile on the face tells all
Using fluorescein should help a lot to understand the flows inside the ice sheet!!!
The US air force has mapped Greenland, so we now know how Greenland would look like if the ice isn't there.
Greenland has a *much* bigger Gran Canyon than the US one, so I think that if one can do that, one can find the flow of water from a moulin to the ocean - during the night.
@@charonstyxferryman Using a tracer helps you understand how fast and în which direcțtion (spring s-o to say) al the ponor points on the surface are draining! Helps a lot to understand what îs hapenning în the underground paths and the involved water volum!
Are these "rivers" a new thing? How long have they been known about?
Collect the fresh water outlet at ocean level into tankers and ship to areas with no fresh water
It's cheaper to desalinate seawater.
😮@@charonstyxferryman ya your right, it's just fun to ship fresh water.
Yes, Mar lago goes under water
Each tree eats 40 pounds of co2!!
All that is released again when the tree rots.
Think freshing of the oceans...more of a change to current patterns than flooding.
Yep, ice is melting. Next project.
Wow, I knew the models were over-rated but for them not to consider that surface ice melted by sunlight would re-freeze at night, and so on, just shows how crap these models are.
Deep ice sheath cracks don't refreeze, they're rivers
Have all these " scientists " forgotten about the fact that we are in an interglacial period . In other words we will have a other iceage at some time in the future. All it will take is a few large volcanic eruptions.
You're right. You must contact those "scientists" and inform them that your decades of field research, lab analysis, & computer modeling has exposed the critical flaw in their hypothesis.
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am myselfs, ourselves, drinking water in Malibu suppose to look that color blue. to myself it looks see through. I like the blue look
The blue colour is compressed ice below the water
Melted glacier water looks amazing. Could bottle it and sell it for an inflated price to rich people.
Or we can collect it and use it for everyone to drink. Here is our greatest drinking water resource flowing into the sea 😢.
meh, once you take it away from the ice it looks like any other water...
tis a magical blue, but thats the ice itself. probably something about absorption of light... iunno...
hyper straight love as well peace
DONT WORRY ABOUT IT WE ARE FINE ITS YOUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WHO NEED TO WORRY, quite a number of people here who are really down the rabbit hole of dont believe them they're scientists
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Wasting money in the ablation zone
Where do those people poop??????
What a great place to kayak! We'll be there next season!! LOL
Turbo 'carstfication', the speed îs scary!!!
karstification
@@kirklaird5020 😘zhx!
I wonder when humans continue to extract hydrocarbons in other places in the solar system (particularly petroleum), if they'll still call it "fossil fuels".
Where can they burn them? You need life to make O2 for combustion. I don't understand your point; you already used the corresponding word "hydrocarbon."
@@atanacioluna292 How about O2 from ice on Titan?
So.. alot of talk about sea level rises and yet there is no talk how the model predictions from 10 - 15 - 20 yrs ago hold up. I bet the models predicted disaster and it has not happened.
Equivalent of an ice sheet sinkhole
"Glacial River Reveals About the Greenland Ice Sheet"
It is made of *hard water* .
What caused previous climate changes?
Same thing that is causing current changes
Milankovitch orbital cycles seem to initiate a change which is then accentuated or delayed by feedback cycles here such as change in albedo as ice disappears, etc...
So, the tilt of the Earth due to our moon smashing and reforming - over 5.6 billion years ago - Creating the 4 Seasons! This is now, all of a sudden, a surprise? Wow, I want a government grant.
@5:00 he says "put them on a leash". You put a dog on a leash. The better term would be tethered to a line or an object.
The Greenland ice mass balance data show that it is losing 1/15,000th of its ice mass per year. This is difference between what ice accumulates and what ice melts. At this rate, Greenland will be ice free in 15,000 years.
Very dangerous, this is work for drones, bots. No one needs to die here.
As to the slower than expected melt rates, I would factor in the fragmented upper layer of snow/ firn as an insulator preventing loss of ice beneath.
I wish someone could pump some of this incredibly pure water into a tanker and ship it south. Best water in the world.
boring. maybe they WANT to go there?
could sit in front of a screen, isolate.
or could get out there and experience the world you live in.
when your time is up, your time is up. no point living forever if you arent doing anything.
@@paradiselost9946Theres a difference in no gain risks and mitigated risk rewards.
If you really want the world to be aware, you should aggregate all of the melting ice around the world. Showing a couple of the biggest chunks really does not reflect the magnitude of the problems we're facing.
Sure, but THIS is a GREENLAND study!
C3S reports that 1.2 trillion tons of global ice are melting annually, so 3.3 billion tons/day, and each pound of melting ice is absorbing 144 BTUs of waste heat energy. So, our AC is on "high" but, still, the planet continues to warm at the current rate of 0.214 degC/yr., so 1 degC every 5 yrs.
Or you can stop volcanoes spewing carbon in our air. More than all the cars combined.
Glacial rivers prove that the ecosystem is working flawlessly. Thank God the ice is melting or all the fresh water on the planet would be frozen in ice! Nice to know the climate is perfect and we will never see sea levels rise...
"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.
That seems unrelated. Sea level rise and greener stuff can both happen. This video is about sea level rise.
Greener may not be the end all that you seem to imply by simply stating favorability. Prime areas of rain forest in Brazil for example run the risk of becoming savannah and many northern forests are slated to burn. Water issues in many agricultural areas (too much and then too little) are typical of changes that can reduce the production of food. All kinds of shifts in climate at an increasingly rapid pace can overwhelm natural systems and lead to die offs including humanity. Good luck with your theory though. One can wish for the best.
There is always carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and plants take as much as they can use. It's the CO2 that plants are unable to absorb that's the problem for climate. Pumping more of the gas into the atmosphere isn't going to green the planet. Retreating ice and snow as the planet warms will also register as a greener planet.
A) it's recognized and taken into account B) simultaneously approximately 30 million hectares, 70 million acres of forest is being destroyed by insects and fires, farming. C) plants have lived and evolved for tens of millions of years when CO2 levels were much lower. Imagine if you double your intake of sugar? D) the biosphere source of all life is in decline across many species.
Perhaps, but that doesn't exactly mitigate the climate change crisis we're staring down.
When the melting gets down to the radioactive waste buried in the ice I'll bet they will be able to trace the flow under the ice a lot better. At least they will be able to be sure where it reaches the sea.
Tons of gold& platinum under the ice!! Melt the ice & get the gold & platinum!!
You can't eat that sh*t. Nor can you eat it! When push comes to shove - sustenance is what's important, not money
(I think . . .).
The icecap is 1 Km (3,000+ ft) thick, and Greenland, i.e. Denmark (Greenland is our territory), don't like mining in the Artic, ... something about unwanted pollution.
Great. The earth is still too cold
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@@rickyal9810 If Arizona in the summer is too hot for you, go somewhere cooler. I agree, the earth is still too cold. We are still in an ice age, as can clearly be seen by all this ice in Greenland in the middle of the summer.
Please tone down the background 'music." It interferes with the ability of anyone with the slightest hearing challenge to hear the words.
Maybe we should pipe all that seasonal run off to the deserts of this planet and plant forests, refilling dried up aquifers and locking up all that water in another way.
Let's do it. Big tunnels and pipes! Time to call in Musk and the Boring Company! Planet-wide underground water delivery!
But wait a minute ... Musk again!!! Oh no no, not Musk again!
But but but - the felon says we can expect “an eighth of an inch over the next 400 years” 🙉
This is just fearmongering, the oceans have not risen at all, and yet they spoon-feed us this climate crap till our heads pop. I also love how they state how Ice melts at the peak of summer. I mean who new right? Summer, of all times.Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Start a bottling plant, call it Glacial River, charge a fortune for it. Make money and help reduce raising sea levels.
wished they leave the earth alone no more diggin or plundging out of the universe ..100 years lets it rejuvinate its self
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I am 49. I remember when I was in grade 7, that was the beginning of the fear of sea level rise. by 2000 we were going to be all living inland, I lived in the Fraser River Delta. Guess what.. there are still people living in the Delta
People living in the Arctic have already had to move their homes as the permafrost melts out from under them…
@@allangibson8494 You do know the permafrost line has been moving north (in a general sense) since the end of the last Ice Age and in a more specific sense since the end of the Little Ice Age in the mid 1800s, right?
@@kirklaird5020 And most cities were built on a land level that was just above sea level in the last two centuries.
Rising sea levels are an infrastructure problem that needs addressing.
@@allangibson8494 Things change. Always have. Always will.
@@kirklaird5020 Why are the Republicans banning discussion and planning for sea level change?
First lesson: the models are wrong. Last lesson Our sea level models show we are doomed... uhhh.. wait whu..?? ( Not one person who lives on the or near the ice was consulted about ice sheet characteristics, A bunch of Southern California eggheads who have NO experience in the arctic are guessing what about the ice sheets support their hot-house agenda..)
Evitar que la corriente se precipite en profundidad, mejoraría la estabilidad de los glaciares Recursos para diseñar soluciones hay, si nos quedamos en los informes y alertas Nuestra historia está cantada
I love ground research done by observation, collection of data and analysis.
But I get real tired when they then tie their findings to apocalyptical visions from flawed computer projections.
They forgot to mention that we’ve had permanent bases in the Antarctic for about 120 years and every year they record an increase of 8 inches of ice per year. Every now and then there’s a bit breaks off the Vladivostok shelf because of excess weight and lever action and there’s a few bits melting due to thermal vents but all in all there’s a balance between that and Greenland which is why oceans have risen at a steady 3mm per year for as long as we’ve been measuring them.
Just think about all the laws that were passed because of the old climate models, which are wrong.
Very interesting. But the bottom line is this: the amount of snow that falls on Greenland each winter slightly exceeds the amount of ice that melts each summer. So sea level rise from the melting ice sheet is not a problem at this time.
I think you're wrong... the ice sheet is contracting... so it's opposite of what you say... less snow than melt. Look into it! Cheers and good life to you Louis... N
@@newtloken7884 Actually there is more snow than melt. The difference, is the amount of ice that flows into the ocean as a glacier. In some places in Greenland the ice sheet is contracting. In others the ice sheet is expanding. Impossible to know for sure what the totals are. We can only estimate. What is true is that sea level rise along the world's coasts, based on tide gauge data, is averaging about 1.8 cm/decade - and has been the same since the mid-1800s. The extra water is coming from somewhere - presumably both continental glaciers and the Greenland ice sheet.
Sea level rise... is far less than the movement of earth, eg in Sweden or the southern French coastline, medieval harbors are dry, while New Orleans and Venice are sinking which got nothing to do with the sea level but subsidence.
This is talking about global average sea level rise. There are many factors that can affect sea level in local areas such as isostatic rebound, uplift in tectonic plate margins, magma chambers, even ocean currents themselves.
The people researching sea level know all this already.
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So why is the sea level NOT rising? Because in the winter it snows again.
Compression of the ocean floor but think about the consequences of that volcanic eruption
Not only does it snow, it snows in Greenland MORE in winter than it melts in summer. The process of calving is not only from "lubricating rivers", but from the Billion tons of New snow every year.
@@LifeMyWay007 Yeah! That's what I'm talking about.
The bottom of the lake is covered with Deuterium Oxide ice.
Nerd's on ice
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Sea level has been rising at the same very small steady rate for the last 220 years. The industrial era has not accelerated that slow steady rise.
If we put more money into mitigation rather than renewables that are not reliable, then we will be ready for any impact from that slow and steady rise.
sure thats the sea level changing and not the continent with the seashore, riding atop a tectonic plate (or several...) thats subsiding?
ive never been able to tell what the ideal water level is in a container of no fixed shape or volume, and is constantly varying...
a source of water consistent with that steady rise - aurora interaction with ozone to form water.
Right on! People are panicking over a 2mm/year rise as if they don't have more important things to worry about.
CO2 level rise accelerated from the 1960’s with the industrialisation of Asia. It isn’t a change over 220 years - it’s risen by a quarter over the last sixty years.
@@bearantsTry again with actual chemistry…
🤦 its always gonna change! Change is the only constant that is possible. Nothing stays the same!
It seems to me that the Himalayan and Andean ice fields contribute more than Antarctica does. based on river out flows.
Kind of logical... except that Antarctica receives relatively little annual precipitation compared to the ice fields you mention. So outflow and inflow need to be kept in perspective before making that conclusion.
The Himalayas and Andes ice fields have basically vanished over the last millennium…
How much did this exposition cost..of course during the summer there are going to be rivers forming and then going under the ice..and during winter this all freezes...wow they get paid huge bucks to tell the obvious.
good documentary, but comments about lubrication or hydroplaning of the glacier on water are completely wrong. the water is under pressure at depth (rho*g*h) and decreases effective stress - also bouncy is in play for parts effectively floating on the melt water. the shear strength of meltwater, as a newtonian fluid, at the base of the glacier is zero. thus lubrication or hydroplaning are non existent
Millions of jets flying around for no good reason caused this catastrophe .
Humons destroyed the planet for fun
And you know this how?
Why do Democrats have this obsession with lisping, gay narrators?
'The number one reason we are here is to make sure we use all the grant money we received, which in turn enhances our chances at receiving future grants. What? Oh, ice or sea levels or something.'
Humans have been surviving great floods for thousands of years. Biblical tales notwithstanding, nearly every early human culture has a historical recounting of floods or repeated great floods. Even if every American today drove electric vehicles and used electrons created only on virtue of nuclear energy, China (and India soon, too) brings two or three new coal-fired power plants online every month.
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The Chinese communists encourage the “green energy transition” to cripple our industrial capacity, while they themselves continue to increase their fossil fueled industrial capacity to take over. Their goal is to be the sole source of manufactured goods for the entire world, which is to say, they wish to rule the world.
Are you ready to move your entire family because of flooding?
Climate change isn’t cost free.
So, camping out in Greenland on NASA's mighty nickle...that about it? By the way, shouldn't The Danes be paying for this? Afterall, it is their island and its famously not for sale.
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Take some footage in winter when it is -60 deg and bones frozen; then we can talk about climate change.
Yes, if there’s still seasons, there can’t possibly be long-term climate change. Try buying flood insurance in Miami, bro.
That's called weather. We're all talking about climate. Catch up.
Man made climate change is not a real thing. Guy in video is a Muppet.
You have your head in the sand! Wake up!
Could you be any stupider, I think not.
Want to end quote global warming turn of the power and go back to living life instead of feeding these people researching everything. Ya that harsh to accept but it would slow your concerns of quote global warming!