Georg Lukács and the Development of Western Marxism (Makers of the Modern World)

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    This video is part of our "Makers of the Modern World" series. Here, I discuss György Lukács and Western Marxism as it impacts our culture.

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  • @kuhatsuifujimoto9621
    @kuhatsuifujimoto9621 2 роки тому +33

    i love that his name is basically a translated rendition of George Lucas

    • @jakobson219
      @jakobson219 8 місяців тому +1

      It's actually the other way around

    • @dkblack1289
      @dkblack1289 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jakobson219 He is star struck but at least he stumbled into intellectual space seeking to follow George Lucas

  • @BartAnderson_writer
    @BartAnderson_writer Рік тому +3

    Started to listen because it seemed like a fair treatment. However I was soon disappointed and I stopped.
    You seemed to be puzzled why anyone well-to-do would side with poor and working people, suggesting it may be due to psychological issues. A strange reaction for someone from the Christian tradition, which on the surface honors people who help those in need.
    Agsin you are puzzled why a Jewish businessman like Lukacs's father would convert to Protestantism. Have you never heard of the anti-Semitism that prevailed at that time? Sadly, Lutherans often participated.
    You laughed at the fights between factions of the communist movement. As you know, Christianity has a long history of fights between the denominations, including multiple wars and murders.
    At that point I stopped listening because your talk was edging into propaganda rather than a serious intellectual examination.

  • @timothyallen6457
    @timothyallen6457 5 місяців тому +2

    Americans could improve on their communication skills by learning to be brief.

  • @saimbhat6243
    @saimbhat6243 Рік тому +4

    Your personal attacks on marxist thinkers are childish, actually very childish, typical of religious dogmatists.
    It doesn't matter who the thinker is, you have to evaluate IDEAS on their own merit.
    Socrates was an abhorrent fellow to his contemporary athenians and was so immoral that they had to make him drink hemlock.
    Mr. Bishop, if you want people to take your paleolithic stories written by hebrew temple priests seriously, you better start presenting something that people usually call A COUNTER-ARGUMENT.
    Pointing out the personality flaws of the thinker do not amount to the negation of his ideas and arguments, presenting a counter-argument does.
    Now, i know it is a subtle thing to understand, but I have hope for you.
    PRAISE THE LORD.

    • @scythermantis
      @scythermantis Рік тому

      I have a lot of sympathy with a lot of the ideas presented here, and am fairly Anti-Capitalist and even Revolutionary, but I have to say that your vitriolic comment here is not doing much to help the Cause.

    • @saimbhat6243
      @saimbhat6243 Рік тому +1

      ​@@scythermantis Ah, well it is just a little bit of tough love.

    • @scythermantis
      @scythermantis Рік тому

      @@saimbhat6243 Hahaha fair enough
      Maybe I've seen the light
      Let's hang out and be graffiti artists and arsonists together!

    • @saimbhat6243
      @saimbhat6243 Рік тому

      ​@@scythermantis I like sports. A Soccer game ??

  • @ChristianCombatives
    @ChristianCombatives 2 роки тому +7

    I got 45 minutes into this video before I realized it wasn't about Star Wars or its creator.
    I feel like I was tricked by the title into learning something useful. You win this round, Dr. Cooper, you win this round.

  • @kyledrums
    @kyledrums Рік тому +2

    Solid rundown but the subjective editorializing was, well, unsurprising Western Anglo moralizing and ignorance. Go travel and live with the ppl, especially outside of the cities, where socialists govt's exist, or even where they don't, and your "the working class doesn't support Marxism" assertion runs into serious problems. But you and your ilk won't ever do that.
    Also, would it hurt to pronounce Gramsci's name correctly? God forbid we ditch our North American "accents" occasionally for the bare minimum effort of saying someones name. Touch grass Doc.

  • @lauraburton627
    @lauraburton627 2 місяці тому +1

    As one in academics, your explanation and connection to theology is helpful. Thank you for this series. Can you also do Levinas?

  • @paytonmcdermott9111
    @paytonmcdermott9111 9 місяців тому +2

    They are Hegelian so the idea you can completely get rid of Western culture is wrong. The idea is that within the western imperialist culture exists the proletarian culture and that by critiquing western culture, you neutralize the oppressive elements. You can never really start over under this worldview. You're always synthesizing the past with praxis

  • @jordanbey870
    @jordanbey870 6 місяців тому +1

    Who financed communism in Russia and throughout the world??

  • @sarahburma9957
    @sarahburma9957 2 роки тому +6

    I appreciate this series very much. It is very helpful in understanding where these ideas are coming from. Thank you for your time and effort. It is truly a blessing.

  • @Young_Anglican
    @Young_Anglican Рік тому +4

    This series is an invaluable contribution to Christian thought. It gives us the language and understanding necessary to interact with the hazards of the modern age

  • @mjleger
    @mjleger 4 місяці тому +1

    Correction: Marx and Engels are not deterministic, although they did believe in searching for "laws of motion" in scientific processes. If you look at Gramsci's critique of Bukharin for example, many of the arguments he makes against Bukharin's theory of historical materialism are backed up with quotes from Marx and Engels. This is important as well in Lenin's Philosophical Notebooks, which develops the Hegelian character of Marx's thought. So these terms, teleology and determinism, are in fact concepts that a good Marxist criticizes. The goal is to develop a materialist theory that can explain the world we live in, and that is open to developments in economics, culture, philosophy, science, and so on, but that is NOT deterministic.

    • @czarquetzal8344
      @czarquetzal8344 Місяць тому

      That's your reading. Don't insist that, dude.

    • @chuwenLee
      @chuwenLee 25 днів тому

      I agree with you, this video interprets Marx as a mechanical materialist, which is a mistake many people make about Marxism, and in fact Marx was mercilessly critical of the mechanical materialists who came before him

  • @zacharyraak2376
    @zacharyraak2376 2 роки тому +3

    This is a really cool series, I actually liked this one better than the Marx video… probably because I’d never heard of this guy before. Keep it up!

  • @justinmayfield6579
    @justinmayfield6579 Рік тому +1

    What a lucid critique of Marxism around 1:00:00!
    Also, it's fascinating how White Privilege (and the various "privileges") is talked about in the same way as Lukåcs did the proletariat. You know, white privilege blinds white people and the perspective of people of color is more true because they understand both the oppressor's worldview and their own... but also if the particular non-white person doesn't agree with the activist, they are "internalizing racism" and need to come to understand their true plight (which, the [often] white activist clearly understands for them). Same Theory, different people.

  • @logicaredux5205
    @logicaredux5205 2 роки тому +5

    I have to commend you for all the work you are doing for this series on Marxism and Marxist thought. This is most enlightening and will serve as a handy source to point others to in order to learn what they are dealing with. Knowledge is empowerment. I also agree with you that as Christians we would much rather be focused solely on Law and Gospel but we can’t ignore what is happening around us. The West is becoming Marxist.

  • @collettewhitney2141
    @collettewhitney2141 2 роки тому +2

    Hello there Dr Jordan Cooper Another enlighten content and more thought provoking material to think about ✝️❤️

  • @joanginsberg9604
    @joanginsberg9604 Рік тому +1

    I loved this--many thanks. I would have appreciated a description of the kind of sex education that Lukacs tried to impose during his term of office. I have searched but can't find one.

  • @celestialteapot309
    @celestialteapot309 Рік тому +1

    Workers tend to be too busy working to plan a revolution, not that hard to figure out.

  • @esmeepeterson356
    @esmeepeterson356 2 роки тому +3

    Erős vár a mi Istenünk! Thank you for the superb presentation, your pronunciation of the surname Lukács is great, György is [ˈɟørɟ], often shortened to Gyuri.

    • @bartolo498
      @bartolo498 2 роки тому

      The stress is on the first syllable, though. LOO-kutch.

  • @yankeegonesouth4973
    @yankeegonesouth4973 Рік тому +1

    Brother, a heartfelt thanks for delving into this material. I don't think I would ever have the chance to read this gentlemen, so I appreciate your attempt to increase my understanding.

  • @Andrew-wo8ry
    @Andrew-wo8ry 2 роки тому +2

    I like this series, keep up the good work.

  • @leonpope861
    @leonpope861 2 роки тому +1

    Critical Theorists telling us what our problem is 🤔 Does not the Scriptures do that 🙄

  • @kommtzeitkommtradt5969
    @kommtzeitkommtradt5969 7 місяців тому

    Do you really have to learn German to read Hegel?

  • @thomasc9036
    @thomasc9036 2 роки тому +2

    Are your Powerpoint presentations available online?

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  2 роки тому

      Not currently.

    • @thomasc9036
      @thomasc9036 2 роки тому +2

      @@DrJordanBCooper I suggest that you have them available on your website as PDF or Google slides. It will be a great way to educate people since people will share your presentations. Add a link to your videos on your presentations. A great way to increase subscribers and people take it seriously when there are written documents.

  • @SvenErik_Lindstrom3
    @SvenErik_Lindstrom3 5 місяців тому

    Are you Jordan Peterson?

  • @spcphd
    @spcphd Рік тому +1

    The interpretation of Luckacs’ humanism is just wrong. That is not what humanism means generally; “humanism “ and the “ humanities disciplines” are not synonyms. There’s much in Christianity that is sympathetic with humanist ideals, and there is a Christian humanism that dates back to the Renaissance.

    • @spcphd
      @spcphd Рік тому +1

      It is also worthwhile distinguishing revolutionary Marxists from “the Left” and totalitarianism, which is also erroneously presented as synonyms or a slippery slope here. We should not forget that Democratic Socialists-who are also “Left”- were always considered the enemy of the Marxists because they were reformists, not revolutionaries and saw a role for capitalism and liberal political economy regulated-for ethical reasons-with social welfare safeguards.

    • @jakobson219
      @jakobson219 8 місяців тому

      ​@@spcphdthe amount of lazy and ignorant thinking around this issue is overwhelming

  • @bionicmosquito2296
    @bionicmosquito2296 2 роки тому +4

    I really appreciate this series. I especially found this discussion of Lukács valuable - it seems that he and Gramsci had similar ideas at similar times (I don't know if they knew of each other's work or if one built on the work of the other), but I was not as aware of the parallel before this presentation.

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  2 роки тому +2

      They were born only six years apart. I know that Gramsci does cite Lukács in the Prison Notebooks, but I am not aware of whether or not Lukács was familiar with Gramsci's work during Gramsci's lifetime. He certainly was afterward.

  • @redplough
    @redplough Рік тому

    Too much talking about your series what you've done what you plan to do how you figured out the pronunciation of Lukac's name nursery on Mark's of thinker is coming from.... Just get to the topic.

  • @ArkEleven1
    @ArkEleven1 2 роки тому

    In the original Hungarian, it's pronounced like George, but instead of the "or" sound in the middle, it's "uh", like G-uh-rge.

  • @cwstreeper
    @cwstreeper 2 роки тому

    This series is very interesting. I'm looking forward to the future entries. Thank you.

  • @toddvoss52
    @toddvoss52 2 роки тому

    Your breadth and depth of interests is impressive, but more importantly very useful

  • @comeintotheforest
    @comeintotheforest Рік тому

    I love his work on War in the Stars: Hope restored volume IV

  • @shooterdownunder
    @shooterdownunder 2 роки тому

    Maybe 1818 isn’t a typo at all, he’s probably a time traveler

  • @jrodmcscary
    @jrodmcscary Рік тому

    Really appreciate this content. Thank you!

  • @eduardopinedaaguilar8319
    @eduardopinedaaguilar8319 2 роки тому

    buen video bro lo voy a usar como referencia para una de mis tareas de Ciencias políticas y sociales

  • @paulblase3955
    @paulblase3955 2 роки тому

    very understandable and useful. Thank you.

  • @bdeas
    @bdeas Рік тому

    By all means repeat yourself again.

  • @luistoomuch
    @luistoomuch 2 роки тому

    I love this series! Can't wait for the next one :)

  • @insightdesignusa
    @insightdesignusa 6 місяців тому

    Well done! 59:53

  • @jorgelopez-pr6dr
    @jorgelopez-pr6dr Рік тому

    I didn't have a good opinion of Lukacs. Now I have a worse one.