You're one of the first to compare my man, thank you! I totally agree, low light isn't the same as nighttime shooting, it's more like indoors, dusk, forests, and stuff like that. That being said, I think OA5 has more potential and variety for experimenting and getting the best results. It was kind of the same with OA4 when you shoot in flat, you can do a lot in post-editing. Maybe that's why it's Pro this time
Yah, the camera is still young and these were my findings out of the box and out of the camera. I realized with some post or custom settings you could probably tweak that footage a bit more but that's not my goal here. Coming from a camera sales perspective, I want to offer the avg consumer something easy and something that doesn't require a lot of skills to use a camera to get good results, that's all, some will try to make this into a professional cinematography debate and I find it kind of humorous 🤣🤣
I was actually thinking the same thing. I will do one with just the standard video. I'm trying to stay away from making custom adjustments because I want to target the masses of users that don't have the knowledge or skills to do post and why most of my samples are "straight out of camera" results. There are no sharpness settings for SuperNight mode unfortunately, maybe they should have put that setting in that mode ;)
@@MiyagisRant I agree with your point about Super Night mode not having sharpening settings. But I think that most people who buy the Action 5 either already know that you can adjust sharpness or deserve to know that they have a camera on which sharpness and noise reduction settings are an option.
@@allenmyers8568 You would be surprised, I used to sell cameras, the amount of ppl who bought GoPros hardly know how to power one on lol. But yes, I just got the camera so I wanted to do the night mode against the Ace Pro first as I've had members requesting this in a group I'm in. I will be doing more samples other then low light stuff. Some of the features like subject tracking, dual mic, the new horizontal lock/leveling mode etc. So much to test so little time and once the Ace Pro 2 comes out, I'll be testing that also with the OA5P, it never ends for me 🤣🤣
it will probably get a bit better with the future updates the A5, Insta360 ACE PRO 2 will also be betther aniway but the price will probably be near the 500 euros, and the ace pro still cost 440, so i guess you get what you pay for...
I agree that Action 5 is a little aggressive on sharpness and brightness. Great test. But I think this will be improved with firmware, remember Insta360 has also had to give us updates to make it better
so wouldn't both have the same flares? Yes I know windshield cause flares anytime you drop a layer of glass there's flaring. But both should have the same outcome, DJI is much worse was my point ;)
@@MiyagisRant its hard to say why, maybe cameras are mounted in different spot on the windshield with some scratches or smutting, or maybe Ace got some flare reduction function....
@@davideczek Both cameras are 1/2" apart side by side so the mounting shouldn't be an issue, both pointing straight out, if it was on an angle I could understand but I made sure. With the FOV of both, they should be both capturing the same side by side that close together. No scratches on my windshield, there better not be lol. oh, I know there is flare reduction, that's that AI working for sure and it does a good job. A4 suffers from the same problem. Will be interesting to see AP2 with dual AI working though, we might see something ground breaking with the new camera, not surprised with Insta360, they've been coming out with crazy stuff lately 🤣
@@MiyagisRant, best way is to kill this comment is to swap position with the A5P and call it a day. Agree with you but maybe AP has Siri and you told it to behave with the flares so it did. 😂 Good work showing more challenging lowlight conditions.
Watch it again and where I point out where spots are where it's more clear on the Ace Pro, look at the grass on the sides, when the A5 is sharp it's over sharpened, ie. at the beginning coming out of the garage, that's way to bright and over sharpened and doesn't look natural. The street light bulbs, Ace Pro is more defined. The texture on the road. Also, the colors are way off on the A5Pro, you can't honestly say they are accurate.
It just needs some tuning in a firmware update. It definitely resolves more detail than the Ace Pro in other situations. Has your Action 5 been updated to the firmware version released on 9/19?
Agreed, any new launch cameras will have some sort of issues and usually (hopefully) addressed in future firmware. DJI has always done well with their updates.
Still young for the DJI A5P, as you know I like both but this is not a good beginning launch for sure. I hear they are going to fix the bitrate issue in the next firmware which I imagine it will drop soon.
Thanks for reminding me and won't make a difference whether it's the right or left, both cameras are 1/2 inch part so both will pick up the same dirty ass windshield. And it's not dirty, I literally cleaned my window that day. I put Rainax coat on it and it's the raindrops you're seeing, not dirt lol
Yes, both cameras have the latest firmware, I think with older Ace Pro firmware it probably would be a bit worse as they tweaked PureVideo after the last major update.
You're correct! We are in 2024 and low light shooting is becoming increasingly a factor in action cameras. Long time action cameras need to realize that action and events dont' start at 9 am and end at 5 pm. Something I debate with my wife often as she has always been a "9 to 5" person and I have to make aware to her that there's the 16 hours of the day that operates still... from someone who worked a lot of graveyard shifts and restaurant industry like me :)
I can see McDonald's from a lot further away on the ace pro compared to the action 5 pro, where it looks readable from up close. Even then I could barely read it, on the ace pro side I can tell it says mccafe and sifton centre. The colors too! light colors show up better on the ace pro. The lenses might be a factor as well. probably the reason why the ace pro looks blurry when using up close when vlogging is cause it's set into infinity compared to the action 5 pro where they set the minimum focus distance closer but suffers from details from further out. Idk just my two cents. as I watched more, I noticed the exit sign on the car wash was readable also compared to the action 5 pros blownout lights. If I want a brighter ace pro video like the Action 5 pros, I'd just downgrade it to the older firmware. LOL. then it will just be a battle of brightness. I also have reason to think that A5 Pro is brighter cause it's using a slower shutter speed compared to the ace pro. that's why it has more jitters.
Yes, the close focus thing is a lens limitation unfortunately, it can't be fixed via firmware. sshh... they have apparently addressed this issue in AP2 ;)
@@MiyagisRantsadly I have the ace pro and I don’t think I wanna sell it for a loss just to get a better focused camera. Maybe the next generation will finally bring the much coveted 1inch sensor. Who knows. Lol.
@@CathandMel Yah, cameras are coming out every year like everything else in this world, the temptation is brutal to buy the new, I'm a sucker for tech and I'm retired so I like tinkering with toys lol. Ace Pro 2 will be a major upgrade compared to put GP and even DJI put out. A lot has been fixed and added to Gen 2. I asked about the 1" sensor with Insta360, probably won't see that for awhile due to the heat issue in that form factor unlike the Pocket 3 or RS 1", the lens is completely separated from the body which is the main problem. I can't even imagine 8K with a 1" sensor, it'll probably catch on fire lol. Never know with tech, it's advancing pretty fast.
@@MiyagisRant with what you just said good sir, you’re making wanna sell the ace pro and get the second generation. Specially if they can record in low light even better than the original ace pro. I kinda like the tracking feature of the action 5 pro. And the 2 mic transmitter connection. If the ace pro can do the mic thing, then I’ll probably consider getting the gen 2. Im a sucker when it comes to cameras. I love cameras. So yeah we’ll see! Thanks for the effort of comparing cameras! It’s not easy and definitely not cheap! I get to enjoy going going on a drive with you on your videos while comparing newer tech in cameras.
@@CathandMel Oh god, don't go bankrupt on my account, I would feel bad lol. We will be looking at 2nd generation PureVideo in the new AP2 ;). Yah, I love the DJI Audio eco system and funny you ask, I talked to my contact and suggested they do their own audio eco system, they didn't say no...hmmm... we know Insta360 dabbles into other types of devices as well. I would love to see a Insta360 Mic2 set lol And you know it'll be cheaper lol I would be the first to buy one. I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with subject tracking as it's mainly the capabilities of AI and the new AP2 will have dual AI cpu's, I'm scared of what else they are going to do with that camera tbh lol DJI 5 is already jumping on the band wagon with AI with the 4 nm cpu and that Qualcomm CPU is capable of pushing 8K, I bet you any money we will see an 8K firmware update from DJI ;)
@@TC_Conner I think at this point it's an added feature to a camera category that's never done well with low light. It's really only been a year since we are seeing this technology and there's a lot more to do but it's getting there. We never thought we would see a workable night footage 2 years ago. Light has always been an enemy in the video and photo world or lack of but good to see some progress to give us something to open up more shooting environments.
You're one of the first to compare my man, thank you! I totally agree, low light isn't the same as nighttime shooting, it's more like indoors, dusk, forests, and stuff like that. That being said, I think OA5 has more potential and variety for experimenting and getting the best results. It was kind of the same with OA4 when you shoot in flat, you can do a lot in post-editing. Maybe that's why it's Pro this time
Yah, the camera is still young and these were my findings out of the box and out of the camera. I realized with some post or custom settings you could probably tweak that footage a bit more but that's not my goal here. Coming from a camera sales perspective, I want to offer the avg consumer something easy and something that doesn't require a lot of skills to use a camera to get good results, that's all, some will try to make this into a professional cinematography debate and I find it kind of humorous 🤣🤣
I think ace pro is better:
- more highlight preservation
- better lens flare resistant
Good eye, I think so too ;)
@@MiyagisRant and for the OA 5 Pro, it looks oversharpen.
Thank you for the comparison video
I would love to see a repeat of this video without using Super Night mode on the DJI Action 5. Also, the Acton 5 has the ability set its sharpness.
I was actually thinking the same thing. I will do one with just the standard video. I'm trying to stay away from making custom adjustments because I want to target the masses of users that don't have the knowledge or skills to do post and why most of my samples are "straight out of camera" results. There are no sharpness settings for SuperNight mode unfortunately, maybe they should have put that setting in that mode ;)
@@MiyagisRant I agree with your point about Super Night mode not having sharpening settings. But I think that most people who buy the Action 5 either already know that you can adjust sharpness or deserve to know that they have a camera on which sharpness and noise reduction settings are an option.
@@allenmyers8568 You would be surprised, I used to sell cameras, the amount of ppl who bought GoPros hardly know how to power one on lol. But yes, I just got the camera so I wanted to do the night mode against the Ace Pro first as I've had members requesting this in a group I'm in. I will be doing more samples other then low light stuff. Some of the features like subject tracking, dual mic, the new horizontal lock/leveling mode etc. So much to test so little time and once the Ace Pro 2 comes out, I'll be testing that also with the OA5P, it never ends for me 🤣🤣
it will probably get a bit better with the future updates the A5, Insta360 ACE PRO 2 will also be betther aniway but the price will probably be near the 500 euros, and the ace pro still cost 440, so i guess you get what you pay for...
I agree that Action 5 is a little aggressive on sharpness and brightness. Great test. But I think this will be improved with firmware, remember Insta360 has also had to give us updates to make it better
Yah, agreed, always something with new launches with pretty much any camera, time will tell if DJI addresses these issues in future firmware
Out of the box, Ace Pro low light are still best compared to Action 5... happy that i bought the Ace Pro
this is great thanks. hoping you'll do an ACE 1 vs 2 when it comes out
No problem, oh yah, you can bet on that, I'm excited for the AP2, will be crazy to see what they do with this version ;)
Can you test the A5 in normal mode ?
like using normal mode at night instead of SuperNight mode?
Yes
@@nishitdronographer718 yah I was going to do one like that, stay tuned.
flares are because of the car windshield, not the camera
so wouldn't both have the same flares? Yes I know windshield cause flares anytime you drop a layer of glass there's flaring. But both should have the same outcome, DJI is much worse was my point ;)
@@MiyagisRant its hard to say why, maybe cameras are mounted in different spot on the windshield with some scratches or smutting, or maybe Ace got some flare reduction function....
@@davideczek Both cameras are 1/2" apart side by side so the mounting shouldn't be an issue, both pointing straight out, if it was on an angle I could understand but I made sure. With the FOV of both, they should be both capturing the same side by side that close together. No scratches on my windshield, there better not be lol. oh, I know there is flare reduction, that's that AI working for sure and it does a good job. A4 suffers from the same problem. Will be interesting to see AP2 with dual AI working though, we might see something ground breaking with the new camera, not surprised with Insta360, they've been coming out with crazy stuff lately 🤣
@@MiyagisRant, best way is to kill this comment is to swap position with the A5P and call it a day. Agree with you but maybe AP has Siri and you told it to behave with the flares so it did. 😂
Good work showing more challenging lowlight conditions.
I don't know about the flares but I still look more details at night on the DJI action 5 than ace pro
Watch it again and where I point out where spots are where it's more clear on the Ace Pro, look at the grass on the sides, when the A5 is sharp it's over sharpened, ie. at the beginning coming out of the garage, that's way to bright and over sharpened and doesn't look natural. The street light bulbs, Ace Pro is more defined. The texture on the road. Also, the colors are way off on the A5Pro, you can't honestly say they are accurate.
Anyone know when Ace Pro 2 is being released?
Looking like mid October ;)
Seems less jittery than before on the action 5! Did you set anything special? I think both look good.
Probably because I wasn't holding it this time, it's mounted on my car dash so it's more stable :)
Ace pro much better like you showed in the video. The action 5 pro does not even come close to the great performance and colors of the ace pro
It just needs some tuning in a firmware update. It definitely resolves more detail than the Ace Pro in other situations. Has your Action 5 been updated to the firmware version released on 9/19?
Agreed, any new launch cameras will have some sort of issues and usually (hopefully) addressed in future firmware. DJI has always done well with their updates.
I find the A5 Pro more jittery as well. If you can try the normal non supernight mode that would be great.
nice work, I just bought the ace pro and I was thinking to return it just to buy the action 5 pro, but after watching this I will keep the ace pro.
Still young for the DJI A5P, as you know I like both but this is not a good beginning launch for sure. I hear they are going to fix the bitrate issue in the next firmware which I imagine it will drop soon.
windscreen is filthy on the right side
Thanks for reminding me and won't make a difference whether it's the right or left, both cameras are 1/2 inch part so both will pick up the same dirty ass windshield. And it's not dirty, I literally cleaned my window that day. I put Rainax coat on it and it's the raindrops you're seeing, not dirt lol
Are you shooting ace pro with latest firrmware ?
Yes, both cameras have the latest firmware, I think with older Ace Pro firmware it probably would be a bit worse as they tweaked PureVideo after the last major update.
Yeah I've had a lot of footage ruined during overcast days, late evening when filming in shaded area or simply during sunsets.
You're correct! We are in 2024 and low light shooting is becoming increasingly a factor in action cameras. Long time action cameras need to realize that action and events dont' start at 9 am and end at 5 pm. Something I debate with my wife often as she has always been a "9 to 5" person and I have to make aware to her that there's the 16 hours of the day that operates still... from someone who worked a lot of graveyard shifts and restaurant industry like me :)
Thank sir for the wonderful knowledge ❤
Great comparison ace wins
I can see McDonald's from a lot further away on the ace pro compared to the action 5 pro, where it looks readable from up close. Even then I could barely read it, on the ace pro side I can tell it says mccafe and sifton centre. The colors too! light colors show up better on the ace pro. The lenses might be a factor as well. probably the reason why the ace pro looks blurry when using up close when vlogging is cause it's set into infinity compared to the action 5 pro where they set the minimum focus distance closer but suffers from details from further out. Idk just my two cents.
as I watched more, I noticed the exit sign on the car wash was readable also compared to the action 5 pros blownout lights. If I want a brighter ace pro video like the Action 5 pros, I'd just downgrade it to the older firmware. LOL. then it will just be a battle of brightness.
I also have reason to think that A5 Pro is brighter cause it's using a slower shutter speed compared to the ace pro. that's why it has more jitters.
Yes, the close focus thing is a lens limitation unfortunately, it can't be fixed via firmware. sshh... they have apparently addressed this issue in AP2 ;)
@@MiyagisRantsadly I have the ace pro and I don’t think I wanna sell it for a loss just to get a better focused camera. Maybe the next generation will finally bring the much coveted 1inch sensor. Who knows. Lol.
@@CathandMel Yah, cameras are coming out every year like everything else in this world, the temptation is brutal to buy the new, I'm a sucker for tech and I'm retired so I like tinkering with toys lol. Ace Pro 2 will be a major upgrade compared to put GP and even DJI put out. A lot has been fixed and added to Gen 2. I asked about the 1" sensor with Insta360, probably won't see that for awhile due to the heat issue in that form factor unlike the Pocket 3 or RS 1", the lens is completely separated from the body which is the main problem. I can't even imagine 8K with a 1" sensor, it'll probably catch on fire lol. Never know with tech, it's advancing pretty fast.
@@MiyagisRant with what you just said good sir, you’re making wanna sell the ace pro and get the second generation. Specially if they can record in low light even better than the original ace pro. I kinda like the tracking feature of the action 5 pro. And the 2 mic transmitter connection. If the ace pro can do the mic thing, then I’ll probably consider getting the gen 2. Im a sucker when it comes to cameras. I love cameras. So yeah we’ll see! Thanks for the effort of comparing cameras! It’s not easy and definitely not cheap! I get to enjoy going going on a drive with you on your videos while comparing newer tech in cameras.
@@CathandMel Oh god, don't go bankrupt on my account, I would feel bad lol. We will be looking at 2nd generation PureVideo in the new AP2 ;). Yah, I love the DJI Audio eco system and funny you ask, I talked to my contact and suggested they do their own audio eco system, they didn't say no...hmmm... we know Insta360 dabbles into other types of devices as well. I would love to see a Insta360 Mic2 set lol And you know it'll be cheaper lol I would be the first to buy one. I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with subject tracking as it's mainly the capabilities of AI and the new AP2 will have dual AI cpu's, I'm scared of what else they are going to do with that camera tbh lol DJI 5 is already jumping on the band wagon with AI with the 4 nm cpu and that Qualcomm CPU is capable of pushing 8K, I bet you any money we will see an 8K firmware update from DJI ;)
Really no favortie here, but the Ace Pro may look a tiny bit more natural.
@@TC_Conner I think at this point it's an added feature to a camera category that's never done well with low light. It's really only been a year since we are seeing this technology and there's a lot more to do but it's getting there. We never thought we would see a workable night footage 2 years ago. Light has always been an enemy in the video and photo world or lack of but good to see some progress to give us something to open up more shooting environments.
the in october comming AcePro2 will beat theam all
I got my money on it for sure!
purevideo win.
Yah, overall yes, interesting to see what 2nd generation PureVideo will be like in AP2 ;)
@@MiyagisRant exact attend 1 October
@@JT7POV I don't think it will be october 1st, more like mid october ;)
@@MiyagisRant watch the leak videos that have leaked, they say October 1st
@@JT7POV It's not lol from photorabz right? I like his date better but you're looking at early to mid october I think